Why would they? They would earn much more money with a greedy monetization system that takes advantage of gacha game players. I don't blame them, greed is what runs capitalism after all.
I said the same exact thing. The whole F2P genre is getting tiresome. I want these talented developers to make a stand alone premium game without all of the pay-to-win elements.
Their target customers are young people, teenagers, who are happy enough to have a free game to play with their friends and occasionally pull the gacha in order to flex their friends. In China most kids do not have consoles or PC gaming at home, they only have smart phones so these high quality free mobile games are like a gift to them. Similar things go for kids in other Asian countries as well. There are already many JRPGs out there on the console that you can buy, there's no point for Hoyo to enter that market and leave like millions of their young players unable to access it.
Dude if this was just a single player game, online mutliplayer, traditional charscter unlocks, and a more fleshed out combat system with jumping, juggles, air combos, etc this could have been near perfect
game should've had a jump, juggling enemies in the air, platforming etc would've been so peak with this aesthetic. could've done some real cool dmc gun stuff too. the game just looks like you should be able to wall run and jump lol
If this game had light dmc combat, it wouldve been an instant play for me. Pretty much dropped genshin cuz its world got too big with 0 mount and ways to travel fast without fast travel as well as its yap fest quests with unskipable dialogue
This game is leaning towards more fighting game but hack and slash than DMC like you can see that with Ellen, Nekomata, Grace, and etc with how tight the high level combos are for these characters also you can see the other fighting game esque elements with it's assist, parry assist, and team up atk system acting like MK1, Marvel vs Capcom games, Naruto storm, and etc. edit: It's why there is a rumored Street fighter x ZZZ collab being on the works
The game have very good art style, animations and smooth combat. Main issue is just that there's BARELY any fighting gameplay, you just mainly skip through dialogues and TV screen "puzzles" most of the time you play the game. I'd say Honkai Impact 3rd or PGR gameplay are ALOT better, they just have older engine and graphic
I actually don't have an issue with anything from ZZZ. The games very 🔥 to me and it's different. Everything doesn't need to be the same formula, copy, and paste. Games that never switches up or tries something new and fresh gets stale quick. 🤷🏾♂️
@@Casual_Talkstop trying to defend poor lame gameplay. It's a button masher he mentioned games with actual combat which this game does not have. It's a no skill brain-dead game for people with one brain cell who don't understand how to play. Not everything needs to be a copy paste. No games should be fun and original with good mechanics. This game does not have those.
@@natecoet3291 like seesh how many open world rpg do you all need to play at once? if story games aren't your thing then play something else. it's not like you paid to play the game or funded the development
@@natecoet3291 Gameplay is okay, but the presentation & music is phenomenal. Tbh I actually prefer this, as I was so burned out by the genshin / WW open world gacha formula after only a few hours - I really wanted something more condensed, and it that sense ZZZ has delivered. I would like to see much harder content though, right now the game is way too easy even on the challenging toggle (which honestly doesn't do much).
I enjoy the game, don’t mind the TVs, combat is like other gachas in terms of difficulty, but in this case flashier so I like it. Cool designs. Will play it along with wuthering
Fair. I'd say the developers were very intentionally trying to limit the environmental depth - there are fewer things that need to be aware of the existence of other things - in favor of stability, hardware performance, and probably the ability to further develop while running less risk of breaking something. And in the various betas they definitely were looking for the most basic core of combat mechanics that still made mixing and matching characters meaningful. We'll see where they take this with a longer-term playerbase.
i think that for casuals, zzz has the superior parry system. feels good, easy to use and makes you feel like a boss wuwa parry requires you to know enemy moveset. totally fine, but for the casual player, might be harder to do
the combat gameplay looks great makes me wish it was an actual single player experience and not a gacha game that is destined to die without an ending to the main story line....
I log into these games for a few weeks out of the year. I clear all content just fine, the trick is to pick a few characters and stick with them. build them up as much as possible, and just accept that youll never clear abyss at the level of the pros. Fine with me tbh
story/exploration is another topic but over all you really just got to login for like 10-15 minutes for dailys and at most an hour (or an hour a day depending how the event works) for events. and tbh if you play the game regularly it should be easy to keep up with content.
i personally like it. it makes sense lore wise (wise/belle only call agents for commissions) and i like seeing the gacha characters out and about living their lives just like wise and belle. maybe i'm just the odd one out lol
@@oreo0sama maybe to others but to me it doesnt make a difference if im running around sixth street as wise or any of the agents, you only use the agents in combat anyways
i give it a 8, and that's being generous. Miyo usually delivers a solid game, but i do feel like they lost their step a bit. Genshin Impact was the high point, still 7/10 ain't bad.
Is the combat repetitive to anyone else? All I'm doing is pummeling the enemy until either a: the enemy attacks so I can do a swap counter or b: my special skill charges up and I mash that a few times. And every once in a while I use my ultimate. I'm just watching my special bar go up and the enemy HP/Daze bar go down while spamming RMB. There is no depth to it.
it depends. for me what had me hooked was making a nice build between the 3 characters that you choose to play. One electric other fire other physical. Then when you unlock Training mode you can practice which 3 characters have good synergy according to the playstyle you want to use. I'm loving the gameplay so far, each character has unique basic combos and delays for their attacks, you just need to practice and make a nice build between your 3 favorite heroes.
it can get pretty repetitive, i have fun with the combat but i think it can (and should) be improved upon. also they should make challenge mode actually challenging, rather than just buffing the enemies health
There's depth to it, it just depends on which characters you're using. They've essentially taken Dante's combo list and given each character one of the items on the list, with the idea being to string together those combos across multiple characters into a single team. In theory, it works - For example, my current team alternates between a charge character, a mash character, and a character with reverse-beat mechanics. There's another character that has Nero's MAX-ACT as well, and another that is broadly just basic E&I combos, and they both work well too. But other times it falls flat, like the character whose entire gimmick is Royal Guard/Royal Return, since you *really* only get to do that if he's on-field and his damage doesn't really justify him staying out, while switching to him *just* for Royal Return is kind of clunky.
@@suchmouse People be acting like Genshin and WuWa aren't any different. They all have their 'gameplay rotation', and some people will click with certain systems. I myself got bored of genshin's constant elemental rock-paper-scissors style approach, and WuWa was pretty much the same - but more hack and slashy. Not sure what it is with ZZZ, but getting the parries just feels really good. I do think the combat needs to be harder - and more of it.
This was my first gacha game and I've been enjoying it greatly. I thought the TVs would be a turn off but after a few days of playing a little, they stop being all tutorials and you get to make actual choices with how you progress giving meaningful bonuses to the combat. I'm excited for the future updates!
0:46 this right here is a must. I'd even like certian checkpoints reached or progress in a game on there to. It really gives a good indicator on a review or if the reviewer has even delved into the game.
This is a console game that was translated into a mobile game, since Im a console gamer, im enjoying it at the moment. But I think if they had planned it to be an offline game with online capabilities, it would set a new standard for mobile games.
I really like this game. I can tell they put a lot of effort into it. I don’t mind the tv gameplay because I don’t feel like exploring a whole map like Genshin or Wuwa again. The environment is a fresh air to me and I enjoy the combat a lot.
0:33 "Zenless puts several new and interesting elements together but forces you to spend the most time with the least interesting of the bunch." Classic Hoyoverse lol. This is why I quit Genshin. Will not waste my time trying ZZZ.
The only mistake this company is doing is not making a full priced game at this point.. Enough with the gacha bullsh*t Develop a fully made, polished RPG.
Well tbh when it comes to business perspective, gacha game will probably earn more than full price game because of the character and weapon that u wanna get. U will need to gamble that either will u get that limited character or not. If players did not get the limited character, then player will use their currency(real money) to buy a ticket to pull the limited character until they got it.
Before anyone says why gacha game is not number one game in the world that because many players prefer triple A company game like COD or Fortnite rather than gacha game. So yeah they have more community player than the gacha game itself
@@raymondyeoh1394 Funny how your example of Triple A full priced game was Fortnite and COD. Which are the worst comparison for this genre... Yes Gacha games will yield more money but it's out of Greed imho... This talents are being wasted in this type of games made to milk players as much money as possible.
@@vivid8979 What are you just suppost to ignore the best selling games in the world? If anything id rather these gacha games have systems similar to those games rather then ofuscating true cost of the charcters behind 3 different premium currencies and a slot machine so its that much harder for people to find out the real cost of these characters. Idealy we would go back to the times where the best selling games were the best ones rather then the ones who could extract the most money out of people but it is what it is.
@@croper0 I dunno what your last reference of a gacha game was, but a lot of modern ones do allow you to plan and buy out characters using pity systems, so there is a "hard cost" to a lot that apply hard pity.
MiHoYo makes some of the best looking games even as someone who doesn't like anime stuff, but gacha means I'll never even touch it. I refuse to support predatory gambling mechanics.
good for you. Gacha games really do take up your soul the longer you play them. I've been trying to reduce the gacha games in my roster, but it's hard... Better to never jump into the rabbit hole at all
Then don't buy in gacha. Simple. Now I dunno about how MiHoYo does things these days, but calling all gacha games gambling, in our modern era that relies on pity/spark systems to avoid the gambling aspect, is ridiculous
@@LoliconSamalik That’s such grade school level thinking. Ignoring problems doesnt make them go away. And a pitty system doesn’t solve the issue either
As someone who has been wanting hoyoverse to go back to the amazing combat of Honkai Impact Third I am so happy they finally did. This honestly just feels like a sequel to honkai impact 3rd to me. Not story wise, but gameplay wise. This is what I wish star rail was.
I got overhyped and, surprisingly, I'm disappointed to have wasted my data downloading this game. Almost 50GB just for a yap fest, mid button-mashing combat, and a braindead TV mode. Like, what the heck, man? What is that 50GB for? This game isn't even open-world.
Yep I agree. Firstly, characters animations are too realistic that makes it weird, secondly, this is way too saturated. THIRDLY HAVENT HOYOVERSE REALIZED THAT OPEN WORLD GAMES ARE BETTER? I rather genshin impact.
The game is so awesome to walk around and just take in the world, the design. Every inch of the game has so much work put in. The music as well. Its like 95% style and 5% kind of lame combat and TV puzzles.
@@CloudLicht the fact that it's a hoyo game and it has fun combat. I highly doubt it's gonna die. It's gonna be supported right along the other hoyo games.
My experience: the whole time I'm just looking forward to any opportunity for fights. Also I like the city exploration (since I really dig the setting and environment design).
This is the consequence of putting skip button. Players play combat, skip dialogue, play combat, move TV, walk to quest without guide and got no idea what's happening in and out of the game Imo, I dislike the combat design of forced animation for normal attacks right when you use skill or ultimate
It's the snoozefest of a story that killed it for me. I'd be willing to suffer through the TV sections if there was an interesting and deep narrative at play, but that just isn't the case.
I honestly feel like the game deserves a chance, as it has a decent start. I could never really get into Genshin and Honkai didn't really do everything for me. I think that, given the proper time, it could be just as popular as Genshin and Honkai in it's own way.
Always always always you reviewers whine that games are too easy when they're designed as such. Go back to Dark Souls if you want difficulty. QUIT POACHING OUR FUN
I gave it a try, but it felt like there'd be some characters that I'd really love to play...and as a gacha, I know it would take me months to get and years to power-up to their full potential...yeah, no.
@@watchmesquatch Expand on this, am I wrong? In Genshin, you would have to stock up on primos for months to be able to, with maximum luck, get a 5* character to C6. I highly doubt they're more generous this time.
I started playing this and thought to myself after an hour, I could be playing persona or devil may cry....so that is what i proceeded to do. Shame as this is the only hoyoverse to interest me at all.
@@jcm2789 Theres much better ways to monitize your game then getting kids addicted on gambling. Fortnite make billions selling skins. Gacha is also predatory for adults as well. Are you not able to just put the characters in the shop for 100$? No because you have to ofuscate the real cost of the charcter behind 3 different premium currencies and a slot machine so its that much harder for people to find out the real cost of these characters.
Personaly i love the game and do enjoy combat and tv mode. I been playing through challange mode and regulary use all mechanics. I cant say hollow zero feels more difficult then challange mode. What draws me into the game is the story wich rn is just building up the mysterys for later. Each chapter adds additional questions to the overarching plot also i never ran out of assist points
It is "OK", but not something that really grabs me like Genshin did when it came out. I will stick with WuWa when it comes to pulls and try this game out as F2P till I am board of it.
the animation and visual appeal is blowing my mind. I can't bring myself to touch a gatcha game but I look forward to this snatching up every animation award that it's destined to get and all the fan art that's about to flood my feeds.
The thing with combat-oriented gameplay is that it has to deliver actually good combat. If you're looking for actually decent focused-combat gacha, just get Punishing Gray Raven, Honkai Impact 3 or Aether Gazer instead. Literally more content, better gameplay and less restrain on your storage.
That's a problem how? We play as the Proxies guiding each character in the hoolow world, it fits the theme and it's done correctly@@thewanderingartists
honestly combat is really fun and i beleive there is alot of future potential. but everything else other than combat is boaring 😢. Game is somewhat inspired from honkai impact 3 but even in that game it never feels like story is dragging on but that is definately the case in zzz.
People are angry with the TV mode. Is this game gonna die at it's release ? 110 gigabyte size on PC ? Is Wuwa > ZZZ ? So many questions. I love it, July started real good.
I played WuWa and did not reach 1 hour gameplay then I uninstalled because the combat I prefer to like ZZZ style and at least ZZZ main character can speak while WuWa don't.
as a wuwa player myself i think this game respects my time better and is far more appealing. i played both on launch and zzz definitely feels very refined. these two to me feel like god of war ragnarok vs elden ring. so i think it just a mattter of what you prefer. i play HSR, genshin, wuwa and this now.
they aint killing wuwa with such mid combat. it's just switch switch switch if you want to do any dmg, literally no depth. the animations feel weirdly slow for a "fast-paced" game and no animation cancelling... it's like all budget went into the special effects.
Bro not everything needs to be a killer of something that came before it they can both coexist. It's hoyoverse it's gonna have longevity just like the rest of their games.
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Imagine if these very talented developers made a non-gacha game
Why would they? They would earn much more money with a greedy monetization system that takes advantage of gacha game players. I don't blame them, greed is what runs capitalism after all.
@@syfishing look another communist.
Talented? What they do just copy the Japanese act game at all with theirs gacha system.
@@RonnieRides I guess you cannot right communist lol. Thank you comrade RUclips
They wouldnt make any money tho, spiderman 2 made less money than 2 honkai star rail banners lol
Something like this should've been a single player offline game...with online modes added on eventually. Basically like Granblue relink or persona.
Granblue Relink is terrible
@@cartoonvideos5nah wym grand blue is a great game
@@cartoonvideos5GranBlue was great what the heck are you talking about. 😂 🤡
Offline and free? Then how they'll make money constantly?
@@OtakuUnderground92 he never play it
I really wish hoyo would make a full premium game. These are always fun but I just don’t have the time to keep up with these never ending ftp games.
I said the same exact thing. The whole F2P genre is getting tiresome. I want these talented developers to make a stand alone premium game without all of the pay-to-win elements.
@@benten7560 Hoyo games are not pay to win though. You can play through the whole game with like months of content without paying anything.
Their target customers are young people, teenagers, who are happy enough to have a free game to play with their friends and occasionally pull the gacha in order to flex their friends. In China most kids do not have consoles or PC gaming at home, they only have smart phones so these high quality free mobile games are like a gift to them. Similar things go for kids in other Asian countries as well.
There are already many JRPGs out there on the console that you can buy, there's no point for Hoyo to enter that market and leave like millions of their young players unable to access it.
Xenoblade Chronicles is what you're looking for then.
Dude if this was just a single player game, online mutliplayer, traditional charscter unlocks, and a more fleshed out combat system with jumping, juggles, air combos, etc this could have been near perfect
Rdr2 already after perfect
For the size this game is you shouldn't even have to ask that
realtalk, after hearing that its another gacha game, im instantly disappointed
"man if this was just a totally different game altogether it would have been great"
@isCUN7 wouldn't say _totally_ different. Just taking away the gacha element and adding more mechanics would be enough
game should've had a jump, juggling enemies in the air, platforming etc would've been so peak with this aesthetic. could've done some real cool dmc gun stuff too.
the game just looks like you should be able to wall run and jump lol
ong man, as it is right now it kinda feels like old hi3.
If this game had light dmc combat, it wouldve been an instant play for me. Pretty much dropped genshin cuz its world got too big with 0 mount and ways to travel fast without fast travel as well as its yap fest quests with unskipable dialogue
Jump, juggling enemies, dmc gun stuff, wall run? Come to WuWa
@@daizenmarcurioYou can skip dialogue
This game is leaning towards more fighting game but hack and slash than DMC like you can see that with Ellen, Nekomata, Grace, and etc with how tight the high level combos are for these characters also you can see the other fighting game esque elements with it's assist, parry assist, and team up atk system acting like MK1, Marvel vs Capcom games, Naruto storm, and etc.
edit: It's why there is a rumored Street fighter x ZZZ collab being on the works
The game have very good art style, animations and smooth combat. Main issue is just that there's BARELY any fighting gameplay, you just mainly skip through dialogues and TV screen "puzzles" most of the time you play the game. I'd say Honkai Impact 3rd or PGR gameplay are ALOT better, they just have older engine and graphic
I actually don't have an issue with anything from ZZZ. The games very 🔥 to me and it's different. Everything doesn't need to be the same formula, copy, and paste. Games that never switches up or tries something new and fresh gets stale quick. 🤷🏾♂️
@@Casual_Talkstop trying to defend poor lame gameplay. It's a button masher he mentioned games with actual combat which this game does not have. It's a no skill brain-dead game for people with one brain cell who don't understand how to play. Not everything needs to be a copy paste. No games should be fun and original with good mechanics. This game does not have those.
@@Casual_Talk Stop glazing ,The Tv problem is real
@@natecoet3291 like seesh how many open world rpg do you all need to play at once? if story games aren't your thing then play something else. it's not like you paid to play the game or funded the development
@@natecoet3291 Gameplay is okay, but the presentation & music is phenomenal. Tbh I actually prefer this, as I was so burned out by the genshin / WW open world gacha formula after only a few hours - I really wanted something more condensed, and it that sense ZZZ has delivered.
I would like to see much harder content though, right now the game is way too easy even on the challenging toggle (which honestly doesn't do much).
"All in the smaller package in terms of world size and scale of locations."
Needs 110 gigs just to install.
If you wanna play pc or console yet have less than a 1tb ssd im sorry but youre just broke, just stick to minecraft, csgo and valorant
@@Hhhh22222-w devs dont care about file optimization, texture compression nowadays, so it's a user problem now that games are about 100GB each?
@@ledf2012 you clearly not play the game, the actual game size is 57 gb, you need 110 gb for download and extract
50 something for the actual size
@@hgos7211 Yeah, it's 50gigs, but needs more than double free or it won't even extract/install which is really odd design.
I enjoy the game, don’t mind the TVs, combat is like other gachas in terms of difficulty, but in this case flashier so I like it. Cool designs. Will play it along with wuthering
my first impression of the game definitely feels like something between Persona 5 and Blood Blockade Battlefront
lolx i was wonderimg whp that wolf dude with the suit and Hand to Hand
reminds me off
I'd say it's more like Persona 5 given it's a 5/10 game
Was BBB a game?
@@forestpark73 no it’s a show w/ a very similar premise which makes me think ZZZ must have drawn inspiration from it
Persona 5 how
If Wuthering Waves didn't just come out I'd say ZZZ has flashy combat. But compared to that. ZZZ combat seems very basic.
Fair. I'd say the developers were very intentionally trying to limit the environmental depth - there are fewer things that need to be aware of the existence of other things - in favor of stability, hardware performance, and probably the ability to further develop while running less risk of breaking something. And in the various betas they definitely were looking for the most basic core of combat mechanics that still made mixing and matching characters meaningful. We'll see where they take this with a longer-term playerbase.
i think that for casuals, zzz has the superior parry system. feels good, easy to use and makes you feel like a boss
wuwa parry requires you to know enemy moveset. totally fine, but for the casual player, might be harder to do
Wuthering isnt on console tho. 😑
True, but the story and animations on zzz seems better
@@markhettenbach3141 Lots of games aren't on console. Really don't see the point of getting one this gen.
the combat gameplay looks great makes me wish it was an actual single player experience and not a gacha game that is destined to die without an ending to the main story line....
Yeah man thats exactly what i am thinking too,i dont even care about the gacha aspects
Wish one day later Hoyoverse release an offline version of the game ala the way capcom release Mega Man Dive or SE with DQ offline
i bet you guys never play hoyoverse's game lol....stay that way
Easy pass since it’s a live service game but I agree combat looks good
Hoyoverse games end at some point. Their story is just long and spread through the years, but Genshin story will end in 2027
Looks great. I just wish these games didn't require you to log in every day. I just can't play a game I have to keep as a second job haha
I log into these games for a few weeks out of the year. I clear all content just fine, the trick is to pick a few characters and stick with them. build them up as much as possible, and just accept that youll never clear abyss at the level of the pros. Fine with me tbh
story/exploration is another topic but over all you really just got to login for like 10-15 minutes for dailys and at most an hour (or an hour a day depending how the event works) for events. and tbh if you play the game regularly it should be easy to keep up with content.
*Can't use pulled characters in the main overworld, as a gacha*
Yeah, instant skip.
well you can date them via your mc so that's the reason
@@DeathClawDC😂 why am I not surprised they added a dating option for your gacha waifus
i personally like it. it makes sense lore wise (wise/belle only call agents for commissions) and i like seeing the gacha characters out and about living their lives just like wise and belle. maybe i'm just the odd one out lol
@@blueaceospadesreal it's a novelty, that'll get old soon.
@@oreo0sama maybe to others but to me it doesnt make a difference if im running around sixth street as wise or any of the agents, you only use the agents in combat anyways
Honestly I’m glad that it is not like wuthering waves, and is doing its own thing. Not every game needs to be open world exploration.
for real, a lot of the complaints i've been hearing is that it's not similar enough to other gacha games, im glad zzz is different
They gave it a 7/10.
Real one.
This sheds light on nothing without the context of the review. Yall learn nothing by obsessing over numbered scores.
They are doing it the ign 7 way
I fundamentally don't understand people like you. A review is more than just a number.
i give it a 8, and that's being generous. Miyo usually delivers a solid game,
but i do feel like they lost their step a bit. Genshin Impact was the high point,
still 7/10 ain't bad.
Game almost 80% tv..Zzz truly living up to its name
Why lie
@@IncredibleLyrics eh?
The 100 gb is just for unpacking as its true size is 50 gb
@@maymeoo21why lie? Go check the size after unpacking
@@UOHCUNY oh yeah my bad..i just check after unpacking and it's almost 60gb 💀 but fr why that big? even my warframe is not that huge
Is the combat repetitive to anyone else? All I'm doing is pummeling the enemy until either a: the enemy attacks so I can do a swap counter or b: my special skill charges up and I mash that a few times. And every once in a while I use my ultimate. I'm just watching my special bar go up and the enemy HP/Daze bar go down while spamming RMB. There is no depth to it.
it depends. for me what had me hooked was making a nice build between the 3 characters that you choose to play. One electric other fire other physical. Then when you unlock Training mode you can practice which 3 characters have good synergy according to the playstyle you want to use. I'm loving the gameplay so far, each character has unique basic combos and delays for their attacks, you just need to practice and make a nice build between your 3 favorite heroes.
Yup. It’s as shallow as a kiddie pool.
it can get pretty repetitive, i have fun with the combat but i think it can (and should) be improved upon. also they should make challenge mode actually challenging, rather than just buffing the enemies health
There's depth to it, it just depends on which characters you're using. They've essentially taken Dante's combo list and given each character one of the items on the list, with the idea being to string together those combos across multiple characters into a single team. In theory, it works - For example, my current team alternates between a charge character, a mash character, and a character with reverse-beat mechanics. There's another character that has Nero's MAX-ACT as well, and another that is broadly just basic E&I combos, and they both work well too. But other times it falls flat, like the character whose entire gimmick is Royal Guard/Royal Return, since you *really* only get to do that if he's on-field and his damage doesn't really justify him staying out, while switching to him *just* for Royal Return is kind of clunky.
Smash. Next question
The only correct opinion
Soul society in the future
The combat time needs serious improovements. You waste 50 minutes in between screens to get in a fight that gets resolved in 2 minutes.
And it feels like 90% of that 2 minutes in combat is spent pressing RB(parry/assist/combo button)
@@AGuyWithFace not all can be parried, that's what red is for, you are not that far from the game are you?
@@AGuyWithFace It doesn't feel like that, it is just that. Cause that's the way you parry and set up combos, exactly as you describe.
Have you never played a gacha game before? That's literally most gacha games. You spend more time in menus and resource management than you do combat.
@@suchmouse People be acting like Genshin and WuWa aren't any different. They all have their 'gameplay rotation', and some people will click with certain systems. I myself got bored of genshin's constant elemental rock-paper-scissors style approach, and WuWa was pretty much the same - but more hack and slashy.
Not sure what it is with ZZZ, but getting the parries just feels really good. I do think the combat needs to be harder - and more of it.
you know which part of ZZZ I put so much tiime on?
the Arcade shop.. I played so much Multiplayer Snake game there
I refuse to believe they match you with real players. I haven't lost a single match of both 4 player modes and I'm a terrible gamer lol
This was my first gacha game and I've been enjoying it greatly. I thought the TVs would be a turn off but after a few days of playing a little, they stop being all tutorials and you get to make actual choices with how you progress giving meaningful bonuses to the combat. I'm excited for the future updates!
wow the UI really gives me nostalgia lol
0:46 this right here is a must. I'd even like certian checkpoints reached or progress in a game on there to. It really gives a good indicator on a review or if the reviewer has even delved into the game.
I just want to play cause of the guy with the red jacket
This game is oozing so much cool aesthetics. It's like Persona 5 had a child with Honkai Impact 3rd.
For the first time after those many years, Mihoyo finally learned how to display damage number properly.
Zzz living upto its name 😴
That's your opinion. 😂😂😂
@@Casual_Talkand what's wrong with that in fact I actually agree with him 😂
@@Casual_Talkand they are right
If you play honkai or genshin, i find that take ironic
Agree
This game reminds me of my poor decisions of staring at tv screens 99% of the time and getting action 1% 💀
00:12 they really know how to market those gachas.
I'm excited for the opening tomorrow 🔥 ❤️
Here in canada we can play it now. It is super fun. Really enjoying it!
This game has such a good looking style that it keeps almost tempting me to try it. Definitely if I had a drought in my games then I would.
This is a console game that was translated into a mobile game, since Im a console gamer, im enjoying it at the moment.
But I think if they had planned it to be an offline game with online capabilities, it would set a new standard for mobile games.
The dude with the guns reminds me of Brandon heat from gungrave
While looking like Ragna from BlazBlue
I really like this game. I can tell they put a lot of effort into it. I don’t mind the tv gameplay because I don’t feel like exploring a whole map like Genshin or Wuwa again. The environment is a fresh air to me and I enjoy the combat a lot.
Mihoyo should just incorporate jumping in their games and especially for combats like in Honkai Impact 3rd part 2.
0:33 "Zenless puts several new and interesting elements together but forces you to spend the most time with the least interesting of the bunch."
Classic Hoyoverse lol. This is why I quit Genshin. Will not waste my time trying ZZZ.
Nice... But I don't wanna spend my time on tv's 80% of the time. I'd stick to Kuro's PGR.
The only mistake this company is doing is not making a full priced game at this point..
Enough with the gacha bullsh*t
Develop a fully made, polished RPG.
Well tbh when it comes to business perspective, gacha game will probably earn more than full price game because of the character and weapon that u wanna get. U will need to gamble that either will u get that limited character or not. If players did not get the limited character, then player will use their currency(real money) to buy a ticket to pull the limited character until they got it.
Before anyone says why gacha game is not number one game in the world that because many players prefer triple A company game like COD or Fortnite rather than gacha game. So yeah they have more community player than the gacha game itself
@@raymondyeoh1394 Funny how your example of Triple A full priced game was Fortnite and COD. Which are the worst comparison for this genre...
Yes Gacha games will yield more money but it's out of Greed imho... This talents are being wasted in this type of games made to milk players as much money as possible.
@@vivid8979 What are you just suppost to ignore the best selling games in the world? If anything id rather these gacha games have systems similar to those games rather then ofuscating true cost of the charcters behind 3 different premium currencies and a slot machine so its that much harder for people to find out the real cost of these characters.
Idealy we would go back to the times where the best selling games were the best ones rather then the ones who could extract the most money out of people but it is what it is.
@@croper0 I dunno what your last reference of a gacha game was, but a lot of modern ones do allow you to plan and buy out characters using pity systems, so there is a "hard cost" to a lot that apply hard pity.
MiHoYo makes some of the best looking games even as someone who doesn't like anime stuff, but gacha means I'll never even touch it. I refuse to support predatory gambling mechanics.
Wow, so bold, so moving. I'm so inspired! 🤭
good for you. Gacha games really do take up your soul the longer you play them. I've been trying to reduce the gacha games in my roster, but it's hard... Better to never jump into the rabbit hole at all
Then don't buy in gacha. Simple.
Now I dunno about how MiHoYo does things these days, but calling all gacha games gambling, in our modern era that relies on pity/spark systems to avoid the gambling aspect, is ridiculous
@@watchmesquatch Maybe try being less defensive.
@@LoliconSamalik That’s such grade school level thinking. Ignoring problems doesnt make them go away.
And a pitty system doesn’t solve the issue either
its really tempting to play hoyo's games but i like having money to buy food...
Honestly….seems like a decent casual game.
So casual that enemies don't move and attack you. Insane.
@@kingsimba9513they do, pretty much same as every other gacha game.
@@kingsimba9513Probably saying that while playing on the easy difficulty
So earlier trailers for this game showed clips of traveling through the city by jumping from buildings like spiderman, is that not a thing anymore ???
I guess you confused with project mugen. Thats another game not released yet
thats a diff game i think
@@ProkerKusaka you’re right ! Thanks, that one looks really cool.
As someone who has been wanting hoyoverse to go back to the amazing combat of Honkai Impact Third I am so happy they finally did. This honestly just feels like a sequel to honkai impact 3rd to me. Not story wise, but gameplay wise. This is what I wish star rail was.
The difficulty problem feels like it would be easy to fix.
Just give the regular enemies more damage, more health, and a faster pace of attacks.
I really like how these characters look
03:36 "Character portrait conversations are fully animated to convey realistic emotions" -> 3 anime people standing completely still
incorrect
I got overhyped and, surprisingly, I'm disappointed to have wasted my data downloading this game. Almost 50GB just for a yap fest, mid button-mashing combat, and a braindead TV mode. Like, what the heck, man? What is that 50GB for? This game isn't even open-world.
Honkai star rail but a much MUCH worse sim. Universe
Yep I agree. Firstly, characters animations are too realistic that makes it weird, secondly, this is way too saturated. THIRDLY HAVENT HOYOVERSE REALIZED THAT OPEN WORLD GAMES ARE BETTER? I rather genshin impact.
This is a bot or something, acc created few days ago with only this comment, and i see a lot of same comments here
@@3I3CTRO well. Honkai star rail to be exact is a hybrid of a turn based and open world
genshin has mid button mashing combat too but ppl still hype that up 😭🤦♀️
This is the best review I've seen so far. It's neutral and goes straight to the point
Its nothing crazy but its fun.. expected the combat to be better.
Honestly the way you talked about the game and the length of the review I'd have thought this game was at least an 8.
The game is so awesome to walk around and just take in the world, the design. Every inch of the game has so much work put in. The music as well. Its like 95% style and 5% kind of lame combat and TV puzzles.
This almost feels like a successor to Honkai Impact 3rd. Glad for the smaller scale and better pacing.
its way too small a world for the game file size lol. also the battleground design can be a little more dynamic
I think Genshin file size is big compare ZZZ only take 18gb
This game is gonna die fast but the r34 artists are gonna have a field day with this
@@CloudLicht the fact that it's a hoyo game and it has fun combat. I highly doubt it's gonna die. It's gonna be supported right along the other hoyo games.
Ellen Joe art has been incredibly mid so far, hopefully they kick it up a notch.
Die fast? The game already earned more revenue on jp ios in one day than WuWa's first week jp ios revenue lol
My experience: the whole time I'm just looking forward to any opportunity for fights. Also I like the city exploration (since I really dig the setting and environment design).
It's more akin to Honkai Impact 3rd.
full-on harajuku aesthetics, combat is flashy, so flashy I sometimes miss dodges and counters.
1:50 - 2:13 Very interesting
ZZZ is just reskin for the supposed HI3 2.0
HI3rd has way more depth than this
This game gives " The World Ends with You" vibes.
These comments are making me lose braincells far faster than any gacha systems ever did
This company has definitely learned from Activision when it comes to game development
Activision isn't a developer lol
@@Pointman11111 Activision is both developer and publisher.
Hate Call of Duty, I don’t want to play it
@@Pointman11111 you tried it XD
@@ratso8193 what.... Who said anything about call of duty🤣
the roster looks like something from S4 leagues
I'm loving this game but have absolutely NO idea what is going on. Like I'm absolutely clueless.
This is the consequence of putting skip button. Players play combat, skip dialogue, play combat, move TV, walk to quest without guide and got no idea what's happening in and out of the game
Imo, I dislike the combat design of forced animation for normal attacks right when you use skill or ultimate
That unnecessary TV thing ruined my experience. 😢
I agree.
It is like saying in genshin/wuwa open world puzzles ruin experience
@@ProkerKusaka No, because those are part of the core experience. This isn't.
It's the snoozefest of a story that killed it for me. I'd be willing to suffer through the TV sections if there was an interesting and deep narrative at play, but that just isn't the case.
@@ProkerKusakaGI and Wuwa puzzle is only a small aspect of the game. ZZZ you have to go through more puzzles/TV than the combat itself
I honestly feel like the game deserves a chance, as it has a decent start. I could never really get into Genshin and Honkai didn't really do everything for me. I think that, given the proper time, it could be just as popular as Genshin and Honkai in it's own way.
I need a physical copy of this game it’s great so far
Always always always you reviewers whine that games are too easy when they're designed as such.
Go back to Dark Souls if you want difficulty.
QUIT POACHING OUR FUN
IKR
I am going to try it. I like the combination of different elements. I am not into pure dungeon crawlers. This game has an unique style and vibe.
Maybe get it to where "TVs" could be 2 min hacking games with the team running through a zone for 10 min?
Everytime i see a japanese hack and slash it just makes me want them to make a new Ninja Gaiden :(
I gave it a try, but it felt like there'd be some characters that I'd really love to play...and as a gacha, I know it would take me months to get and years to power-up to their full potential...yeah, no.
Brain rot
@@watchmesquatch Expand on this, am I wrong? In Genshin, you would have to stock up on primos for months to be able to, with maximum luck, get a 5* character to C6. I highly doubt they're more generous this time.
7G- oh wait, wrong channel.
I started playing this and thought to myself after an hour, I could be playing persona or devil may cry....so that is what i proceeded to do. Shame as this is the only hoyoverse to interest me at all.
I would guess that IGN rating for this game is gonna be 9/10
ZZZ makes genshin look like a 10/10 would play game
i feel like i'm playing scarlet nexus
because it is
But worse to be fair scarlet nexus had more depth.
I'll take scarlet nexus any day over this.
I love the art style and character designs of this game but when I find out it was a gacha game it completely turned me off.
Of course you did not pay for it in the first place, developers need at least to profit on their game.
@@jcm2789 Theres much better ways to monitize your game then getting kids addicted on gambling. Fortnite make billions selling skins.
Gacha is also predatory for adults as well. Are you not able to just put the characters in the shop for 100$? No because you have to ofuscate the real cost of the charcter behind 3 different premium currencies and a slot machine so its that much harder for people to find out the real cost of these characters.
If this game was combat based It'd be so sick
Personaly i love the game and do enjoy combat and tv mode.
I been playing through challange mode and regulary use all mechanics. I cant say hollow zero feels more difficult then challange mode. What draws me into the game is the story wich rn is just building up the mysterys for later. Each chapter adds additional questions to the overarching plot also i never ran out of assist points
I like it, i tried this and this game not bad
It is "OK", but not something that really grabs me like Genshin did when it came out. I will stick with WuWa when it comes to pulls and try this game out as F2P till I am board of it.
Bored
the animation and visual appeal is blowing my mind. I can't bring myself to touch a gatcha game but I look forward to this snatching up every animation award that it's destined to get and all the fan art that's about to flood my feeds.
How is it compared to wuthering waves?
As someone that hated WW, I’m enjoying ZZZ much more.
Mid wuwa is much better
I spenT more time on TV...
I'm glad they didn't bend down to these complainers about the TV section. They're really fun.
The thing with combat-oriented gameplay is that it has to deliver actually good combat.
If you're looking for actually decent focused-combat gacha, just get Punishing Gray Raven, Honkai Impact 3 or Aether Gazer instead. Literally more content, better gameplay and less restrain on your storage.
Imagine spending 2000$ on characters and you can't even see them when not in combat 😂
What? All the characters are in the game.
@@Papa_Khan they are but when you explore the overworld you don't see them, just the MC
That's a problem how? We play as the Proxies guiding each character in the hoolow world, it fits the theme and it's done correctly@@thewanderingartists
I'm fine with it honestly cause gonna be f2p
@thewanderingartists You have the right to like and dislike what you want but I don't see the issue. 🤷🏾♂️
honestly combat is really fun and i beleive there is alot of future potential. but everything else other than combat is boaring 😢. Game is somewhat inspired from honkai impact 3 but even in that game it never feels like story is dragging on but that is definately the case in zzz.
I actually like the TV mode
I hope they will make the game more difficoult
I have been enjoying this game more than the other hoyo games so far. But it might be because I got extremely lucky on the limited banners
I've fallen asleep multiple times during the conversations. Still, i do like the combat system
They just did this to rival Wuthering Waves. What they should have done is to make Genshin Impact 2
i wouldnt call swaying side by side "fully animated"
From what ive played the tv section lasts like five seconds frfr, just hold then directional key and hold a.
People are angry with the TV mode. Is this game gonna die at it's release ? 110 gigabyte size on PC ? Is Wuwa > ZZZ ? So many questions. I love it, July started real good.
I played WuWa and did not reach 1 hour gameplay then I uninstalled because the combat I prefer to like ZZZ style and at least ZZZ main character can speak while WuWa don't.
Funny how they thought this game would be a Wuwa killer, i can see the hype dying within a week of release 😂
Shh
as a wuwa player myself i think this game respects my time better and is far more appealing.
i played both on launch and zzz definitely feels very refined.
these two to me feel like god of war ragnarok vs elden ring. so i think it just a mattter of what you prefer.
i play HSR, genshin, wuwa and this now.
they aint killing wuwa with such mid combat. it's just switch switch switch if you want to do any dmg, literally no depth. the animations feel weirdly slow for a "fast-paced" game and no animation cancelling... it's like all budget went into the special effects.
Bro not everything needs to be a killer of something that came before it they can both coexist. It's hoyoverse it's gonna have longevity just like the rest of their games.
They who?
Can you skip cutscenes?