Hi, i am a fellow italian with an i7 14700F, congratulations and thanks for the guide, i was setting a vcore undervolt of -0.05 to begin with like you suggested, but on HWmonitor and intel XTU it doesn't read the -0.05 offset being active. I also noticed one thing yesterday, tinkering with Throttlestop i disabled turbo boost to read the lowest cpu voltages that my cpu could achieve, and they were 0.832 or something, i've left it like that for a night since i also had to copy a truckload of files between two slow hard disks, and it never ever went under that voltage (iirc) and surely never under 0.8. Now to return to the topic, by disabling turbo boost and reading the minimum voltages again i see my cpu sitting at 0.782 with the -0.05 undervolt enabled in the bios, so in short i think that the undervolt is active even though XTU and HWmonitor as i said do not read differences in offsets. Do you think this may be the case or am i tripping? Do you have any ideas on how i could verify that? Thanks again for your time
I don't think maxing out the turbo would lower temperature. It's more the undervolt that lowers temperatures. CPUs require power to operate, but different chips (even with the same model number) require different voltage to be stable. Intel gives a generous amount of voltage just to be safe, but 99% of CPUs can sustain the same clock speeds with slightly less voltage. This allows you to get the same performance with less heat and power. Sometimes, because the CPU is cooler, it won't throttle, so you can actually get more performance by lowering voltage.
@dadozygaming if I run PowerMax without doing anything. It caps at 220 watts. When I undervolt .060 it goes to about 199 watts. Where am I looking to find out if my clock speeds are lower? I'm just assuming if I'm using less power so I'm getting less performance I have hwinfo. But what I'm gathering from you that even though the wattage might be lower, I'm still getting the same speeds. This is correct. Yes? So if I set my power limit 1 and 2 to say 500watts My CPU isn't going to use that if I undervolt by .060 ever? I use a 14700f I'm trying to maximize its performance since I can't exactly overclock it. When I got the computer at the time I didn't have a liquid cooler so I didn't bother with it. But now I do have a liquid cooler.
@@QQWoLPHie You are 100% correct in that you're not getting less performance when you use less voltage. You get less stability when you use less voltage. It's like a person screaming so that someone will understand them. The person can speak more softly, and achieve the same results. As the person speaks softer and softer, at some point, the other person will start to not be able to understand, and that's when the CPU crashes. You just to speak just loud enough so you always understand, but not super loud so you waste your lungs (plus you tire out faster). I hope that's a good analogy. Every CPU is different. Some CPUs are like deaf old people who can't hear very well, and you have to yell. Some CPUs can hear the faintest whisper without a problem. Once you find the perfect voltage where it's 100% stable but as low as possible, you get the best of both world. You get 100% of your performance with power savings, a cooler CPU, and longer CPU lifespan. Since your CPU is cooler, you could push it harder. However, you said you can't overclock, and that's okay. Just remove all your turbo limits. Your computer will sometimes "turbo" your CPU by increasing its clock speed when under heavy load. However, due to heat constraints, it will often stop turboing in order to save the CPU from burning up. With undervolting, strong cooling, and turbo turned off, your CPU could effectively turbo infinitely, maximizing the clock speed and performance of your non-K CPU. However, don't expect your CPU to always be at 100% turbo clock boost when idle. That's not what you want anyways. You just want it to be on turbo when you need it. Again, since you cannot overclock your CPU, that's all you can get.
@@QQWoLPHie Sorry for the double post. It's natural for your wattage to go lower, since watts = (volts x amps). As your volts go down, so does your wattage. That's a good thing. I also want to warn you that removing all turbo limits can damage your CPU over time if you don't have enough cooling. Silicon degrades with heat. You don't want your CPU to be stuck at 100C all day. Use with caution and monitor your temps.
@@dadozygaming i got a corsair icue h100 elite and 3 fans so 5 total, its pretty efficient for sure, im gunna fiddle with the voltage and test, so as long as the computer doesnt crash with the undervolt and maxed turbo limits, does that typically mean its running at 5.4ghz or will it just lower my cap speed to maintain stability automatically. like if i gave it a .075 undervolt and doesnt crash could it be running at 5.1ghz at max or it will hold that 5.4 or crash at max speeds
Hi, I've just updated to the latest bios with the microcode update and when i undervolt my cpu with the intel default settings the undervolt doesn't work properly , the voltage are lower but the power consumption is the same as stock. However when i switch to the mobo unlimited power settings the undervolt works fine just like in my previous bios. I was wondering if it does the same with you when you put intel default settings ? Btw i undervolt my cpu thanks to one of your guides and same with my gpu so thanks for your work.
Thank you for the video! "Problem" is, mobo chipset, most of 14600(k) or 14700(k) users don't own a Z mobo, but B one. Please, try something regarding B760 chipset, if possible. At least on Gigabyte B760(m) chipset, the only way to undervolt is by selecting 0x104 ucode (if I'm not mistaken).
@@antonavdyushkin545You may be able to select to 0x104 uCode in the bios, which allows the undervolt. I'm doing that on my B760m Aorus Elite F18g (0x129 uCode) running on 0x104.
I don't understand why you need to lower the voltage of an i7-14700 or 14700f processor. If high temperatures are reached there are mainly two problems: 1 inadequate heatsink or unventilated case 2 poorly mounted heatsink I have an i7-14700f with a 420mm arctic cooling AIO, in idle the consumption of the whole computer (so cpu + 4 hard drives + RTX 3060ti) is 66 watts and the cpu temperature is stably 22 degrees celsius. If I run stress tests, such as from the CPU-Z program, the consumption reaches over 350 watts but the temperature never exceeds 65 degrees. If someone says that this is not possible, I can post videos to prove it!!!
Is it possible to know the temperature when testing Cinebench R23?
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With such a beefy cooler it's a waste not to use 14700k instead. I think most people who decided for the non-k didn't want to upgrade for a water cooler or bigger case. Still, Intel kinda scammed us there, difference in temps between the k and non-k seems to be just 5°C
Those who buy the 14700f without proper cooling thinking they are buying an underpowered cpu will have major temperature problems in my opinion. From my tests the 14700f cpu under stress exceeds 300w of consumption and without a proper heatsink soon reaches 100 degrees celsius as in the 14700k. I enclose the link to a very simple and short video of mine where you can see what I write. ruclips.net/video/-GpQPiejxDU/видео.htmlsi=m0hrW7J74JC3BSAX
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@@cix1976 what did you set your pl2 to? If it's on default maybe it's messed up, manually set it to 219 (Intel's default). My board's default pl1/pl2 is messed up giving 125/150 for a Core i7 14700f lol. At 65/150 it's pretty chill actually, performance loss yes, but still plenty for games. If you can handle that TDP fine, you would be better served with a 14700k, about the same heat, a bit more MHz. I read about a guy reporting his 14700k at 65w pl1 performed worse than a 14700, wonder if that's really true.
Hello, first of thank you for this information.I would like to ask if there is a difference between "enhanced turbo" an "turbo " because you said to disable it. This "turbo" that I am talking about is unde Advanced/cou power management
@@ImWateringPSUs thank you! So If I do the same thing as your video provide I should be fine? Even tho I have a MSI motherboard correct? Or is their some other setting I should change ?
Hi, i am a fellow italian with an i7 14700F, congratulations and thanks for the guide, i was setting a vcore undervolt of -0.05 to begin with like you suggested, but on HWmonitor and intel XTU it doesn't read the -0.05 offset being active. I also noticed one thing yesterday, tinkering with Throttlestop i disabled turbo boost to read the lowest cpu voltages that my cpu could achieve, and they were 0.832 or something, i've left it like that for a night since i also had to copy a truckload of files between two slow hard disks, and it never ever went under that voltage (iirc) and surely never under 0.8. Now to return to the topic, by disabling turbo boost and reading the minimum voltages again i see my cpu sitting at 0.782 with the -0.05 undervolt enabled in the bios, so in short i think that the undervolt is active even though XTU and HWmonitor as i said do not read differences in offsets. Do you think this may be the case or am i tripping? Do you have any ideas on how i could verify that? Thanks again for your time
Ma allora scrivi in italiano.
@@GeneralAkAbAHo pensato dato che parla in inglese e per rendere il tutto leggibile anche da altri di scrivere in lingua inglese
@@Feanorlike ti sto trollando, ignora
@@GeneralAkAbA Potevi trollarlo in inglese allora!
Thank you brother for all the awesome tutorials. Can I request this 14700F but with B760M Pro-A WiFi asrock mobo?
this
I want to ask, with Actual VRM Core Voltage set to 0.1. What does unstable CPU look like? Cuz mine working fine with it.
Same i am trying to figure this out and i did the 0.1 as well
Thanks you so much m'y bro! You are thé best
Why would maxing out the turbos lower temperatures? I don't understand doesn't make any sense
I don't think maxing out the turbo would lower temperature. It's more the undervolt that lowers temperatures.
CPUs require power to operate, but different chips (even with the same model number) require different voltage to be stable. Intel gives a generous amount of voltage just to be safe, but 99% of CPUs can sustain the same clock speeds with slightly less voltage. This allows you to get the same performance with less heat and power.
Sometimes, because the CPU is cooler, it won't throttle, so you can actually get more performance by lowering voltage.
@dadozygaming if I run PowerMax without doing anything. It caps at 220 watts. When I undervolt .060 it goes to about 199 watts. Where am I looking to find out if my clock speeds are lower? I'm just assuming if I'm using less power so I'm getting less performance I have hwinfo. But what I'm gathering from you that even though the wattage might be lower, I'm still getting the same speeds. This is correct. Yes?
So if I set my power limit 1 and 2 to say 500watts My CPU isn't going to use that if I undervolt by .060 ever? I use a 14700f I'm trying to maximize its performance since I can't exactly overclock it. When I got the computer at the time I didn't have a liquid cooler so I didn't bother with it. But now I do have a liquid cooler.
@@QQWoLPHie You are 100% correct in that you're not getting less performance when you use less voltage. You get less stability when you use less voltage. It's like a person screaming so that someone will understand them. The person can speak more softly, and achieve the same results. As the person speaks softer and softer, at some point, the other person will start to not be able to understand, and that's when the CPU crashes. You just to speak just loud enough so you always understand, but not super loud so you waste your lungs (plus you tire out faster). I hope that's a good analogy. Every CPU is different. Some CPUs are like deaf old people who can't hear very well, and you have to yell. Some CPUs can hear the faintest whisper without a problem.
Once you find the perfect voltage where it's 100% stable but as low as possible, you get the best of both world. You get 100% of your performance with power savings, a cooler CPU, and longer CPU lifespan.
Since your CPU is cooler, you could push it harder. However, you said you can't overclock, and that's okay. Just remove all your turbo limits.
Your computer will sometimes "turbo" your CPU by increasing its clock speed when under heavy load. However, due to heat constraints, it will often stop turboing in order to save the CPU from burning up. With undervolting, strong cooling, and turbo turned off, your CPU could effectively turbo infinitely, maximizing the clock speed and performance of your non-K CPU.
However, don't expect your CPU to always be at 100% turbo clock boost when idle. That's not what you want anyways. You just want it to be on turbo when you need it. Again, since you cannot overclock your CPU, that's all you can get.
@@QQWoLPHie Sorry for the double post. It's natural for your wattage to go lower, since watts = (volts x amps). As your volts go down, so does your wattage. That's a good thing.
I also want to warn you that removing all turbo limits can damage your CPU over time if you don't have enough cooling. Silicon degrades with heat. You don't want your CPU to be stuck at 100C all day. Use with caution and monitor your temps.
@@dadozygaming i got a corsair icue h100 elite and 3 fans so 5 total, its pretty efficient for sure, im gunna fiddle with the voltage and test, so as long as the computer doesnt crash with the undervolt and maxed turbo limits, does that typically mean its running at 5.4ghz or will it just lower my cap speed to maintain stability automatically. like if i gave it a .075 undervolt and doesnt crash could it be running at 5.1ghz at max or it will hold that 5.4 or crash at max speeds
works on i7 14700 KF? bcs i get 100 grades C in less than one minute..
All right, so I tried this and I lost a ton of frames I don't like that. Is there a way to undervolt with a b760m motherboard from gigabyte?
nope
Hello can You please help me to do this on b760 elite ax? I'm having high temps with 14700f
Hi, I've just updated to the latest bios with the microcode update and when i undervolt my cpu with the intel default settings the undervolt doesn't work properly , the voltage are lower but the power consumption is the same as stock. However when i switch to the mobo unlimited power settings the undervolt works fine just like in my previous bios. I was wondering if it does the same with you when you put intel default settings ? Btw i undervolt my cpu thanks to one of your guides and same with my gpu so thanks for your work.
Thank you for the video!
"Problem" is, mobo chipset, most of 14600(k) or 14700(k) users don't own a Z mobo, but B one. Please, try something regarding B760 chipset, if possible.
At least on Gigabyte B760(m) chipset, the only way to undervolt is by selecting 0x104 ucode (if I'm not mistaken).
yes, my Gigabyte board can't undervolt under 0x129 microcode, while other B760(M) MBs easily can.
@@antonavdyushkin545You may be able to select to 0x104 uCode in the bios, which allows the undervolt. I'm doing that on my B760m Aorus Elite F18g (0x129 uCode) running on 0x104.
Where do I go to undervolt on the gigabyte one? If it can do it, is that the dynamic core thing under vcore?
thanks my pc just cooked itself
Using which one?
Hei, I am a video editor, thiking to build an editing rig... is the i7 14700k issue fixed ?? i feel it would perform better than ryzen 9900x
7950x seems like a much better choice for you
i have i7 14700kf never had any issue
If the i7 is set properly and cooled properly you’re gonna have absolutely no issues :)
14700K is a gem! Just don't let default bios settings ruin it. Actually this is true to any modern platform.
Anyone who done this who can tell me if it worked on temp or not
I have a gigabyte b760m c motherboard your steps confuse me. I don't know what the cache is on mine nor nor do i know where the undervolt is located.
do you have a solution to get xmp to work for an i7 14700k paired with a gigabyte B760 gaming x ax motherboard ? also running DDR5 5600MHz Ram.
I don't understand why you need to lower the voltage of an i7-14700 or 14700f processor.
If high temperatures are reached there are mainly two problems:
1 inadequate heatsink or unventilated case
2 poorly mounted heatsink
I have an i7-14700f with a 420mm arctic cooling AIO, in idle the consumption of the whole computer (so cpu + 4 hard drives + RTX 3060ti) is 66 watts and the cpu temperature is stably 22 degrees celsius.
If I run stress tests, such as from the CPU-Z program, the consumption reaches over 350 watts but the temperature never exceeds 65 degrees.
If someone says that this is not possible, I can post videos to prove it!!!
Is it possible to know the temperature when testing Cinebench R23?
With such a beefy cooler it's a waste not to use 14700k instead. I think most people who decided for the non-k didn't want to upgrade for a water cooler or bigger case. Still, Intel kinda scammed us there, difference in temps between the k and non-k seems to be just 5°C
Those who buy the 14700f without proper cooling thinking they are buying an underpowered cpu will have major temperature problems in my opinion.
From my tests the 14700f cpu under stress exceeds 300w of consumption and without a proper heatsink soon reaches 100 degrees celsius as in the 14700k.
I enclose the link to a very simple and short video of mine where you can see what I write.
ruclips.net/video/-GpQPiejxDU/видео.htmlsi=m0hrW7J74JC3BSAX
@@cix1976 what did you set your pl2 to? If it's on default maybe it's messed up, manually set it to 219 (Intel's default). My board's default pl1/pl2 is messed up giving 125/150 for a Core i7 14700f lol. At 65/150 it's pretty chill actually, performance loss yes, but still plenty for games. If you can handle that TDP fine, you would be better served with a 14700k, about the same heat, a bit more MHz. I read about a guy reporting his 14700k at 65w pl1 performed worse than a 14700, wonder if that's really true.
I have a 13900 locked non K, i use Tomahawk z790, can i make undervolt normaly with This kind of CPU ? @ImWateringPSUs
grande bro
Since when does resizable bar affect the CPU temperature? sure about that?🤔
does it work on an i7 14700kf with z690 assus? with the latest intel bios microcode?
thanks for ur videos, btw does this tuturial works on 14700kf?
What program do I use to test stability after setting the voltage?
I need my i7 14700F to keep up with my 4070 Ti super
Hello, first of thank you for this information.I would like to ask if there is a difference between "enhanced turbo" an "turbo " because you said to disable it. This "turbo" that I am talking about is unde Advanced/cou power management
I always use xmp II, is there an advantage to xmp I?
do an asrock one now for this, the one you have is outdated
The GPU in the systen behind you has a huge sag can you please fix it? 😃
Im doubting between i7 14700 or 14700kf for my system wich is msi b760 tomahawk ddr4 wiffi / artic liquid freezer 2 240 + contact frame / 7800xt nitro + / 32gb ram at 3600 corsair vengeance / philips 34m2c3500l/00 3440x1440 180hz 0.5ms fast va and 9tb storage 4tb m.2 / 4tb sshd / 1tb m.2
i went with the i7 14700 NON K gnne get it in a few days curious how it wil work out of the box.
@@dieaking6475how did it work?
Hey , i have an Asus strix b760f gaming wifi Board with the nuewest BIOS Update. But i dont have the setting Asus multicore enhancements. Why?
Double check in the “Advanced CPU Settings” page and if it’s not there don’t worry about it :)
Is there really much over a difference between the 14700f and 14700k in fps
no lol
Unless 14700K overclocked ofc.
you did not mention high-voltage caused CPU degradation
coming 15gen , 14 gen no interesing
15th gen is just in laptops though… it’s pointless for gamers.
@@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm coming soon gen15 15700k for pc 15900k
New chips on new micro code are great no issues.
@@dieaking6475 amd on top , Intel scrap for today
can i do this for my i5 13600k? i have a MSI motherboard. and yes i have the latest update for my motherboard.
Yessir you can! I also have a few dedicated tutorials for undervolting K-series i5
@@ImWateringPSUs thank you! So If I do the same thing as your video provide I should be fine? Even tho I have a MSI motherboard correct? Or is their some other setting I should change ?
I have a 13900 locked non K, i use Tomahawk z790, can i make undervolt normaly with This kind of CPU ? @@ImWateringPSUs
Useless, temps are the same