I'm 62 years old. The surge of excitement and anticipation when you toggled the power switch took me back to earlier times. Turning on your computer was like digging up a treasure chest and cracking it open. Ah, the memories.
Fun fact: The PS/2 Model 25 was one of the first PCs to come with Windows. There was a "Collegiate Edition" of the Model 25 that came bundled with a mouse and a copy of Microsoft Windows 1.04, on 3½" diskettes.
Iirc it fit on a single HD (1.44MB) disk. It seems to have been distributed on 5 360KB disks originally though? I never saw smaller than 720KB double sided disks myself. EDIT: Actually, the earliy 5.25" disks were probably 360KB come to think of it (like old C64 disks).
VWestlife Thx for educating me....I thought the two were related in some way...I grew up in the 90's...so although I grew up in the childhood of PCs... Or maybe the teen years...PS/2 and os/2 were before my time.... Thx again for your answers!! I appreciate it when ppl answer on RUclips... Way to few ppl do that here =) Have a good one!! Greetings
Oh, man! It's just like when I opened my fresh PS/1 (model 2168) back in '93!! Ohhhhh, the nostalgia!!!.... This just made my day, Clint! Thank you!! :)
Ironman1o1 Just switched fans in my Win 98 Compaq, before you heard that it was on if you stood outside the front door, now you can be in the same room with it on and almost not notice it :)
lmao so true. Those beeps from the internal speaker, sounds of the hard drive booting up and "WRRRRRRR"s of the fan were amazing. Never mind the sounds of Windows booting.
You know, im not really a tech guy more into cars, guns and motorcycles. but your videos really bring the nostalgia from my childhood and make this subject interesting. We used these things in school in the late 1990s when I was a little kid. Those old ibms running dos, then beige apples then the multi colored apples with those horrible 1 button mouses. Good times. Didn't have normal pcs at school until the mid 2000s. Freind of mine had 2 pcs that would fit your channel bsck then. One in a woodgrain case with a turbo button.
As someone who only built their first PC last year these old PC's are almost alien to me. Love seeing how far tech has come in a relatively short time and how much more user friendly it is nowadays.
They were great for learning how computers work and programming in assembler and that kind of stuff, but, yeah, modern PC's are so much more fun. Old business software like spreadsheets and word processors were just awful.
What I miss from hardware of those days is build quality. Those keyboards are still in use and some of them are older than me. IBM just made things properly to last. They were expensive, but you knew damn well it was a good purchase.
Oh my god freddie's rescue roundup. I used to play that on my grandmother's IBM PS/2 all the time so many years ago. You just brought back a lot of memories with that. And yes it has a CGA color version iirc, lots of pinks and blues.
My favorite part of this was when you got excited and said, "Alright, lets use this mother******!" This made my day by far. I'm always excited to see the content you put out.
I consider this model to be my first computer, even though I'd used other computers prior. Now it was way out dated when my brother gave it to me but I loved it. I had a computer in my room and I'd take school notes with it and type up papers. I thought I was so awesome. My brother would go to state auctions and buy these and passed one on to me. I'm pretty sure it's still in my parents' basement.
I owned the PS 2 model 25, and I know from sad personal experience that it has a really bad design flaw. One day when I was inserting a floppy, it snapped the drive head right off. It used all proprietary parts, so you couldn't just install a clone drive. The system was two generations obsolete at the time, so I called IBM about getting the pin-out configuration to allow me to put a clone drive in. One of their techs explained it was a known design flaw; the floppy had been designed to install vertically, so its horizontal placement meant the drive head hung lower than spec and would eventually catch on the floppy and break. The tech said they couldn't give me the pin-out, but they'd be happy to send out a technician to repair it... at $200 an hour, timed from the time they leave the office to the time they return. I politely declined his offer, took the thing to an independent tech, and he used a multimeter to get the pin-out himself. I ended up paying $25 for an adaptor so I could install a $15 clone drive instead of the $150 proprietary drive IBM wanted to sell me. (It turns out that IBM just moved the power pin from one side to the other, just enough difference that you'd fry your drive if you tried to use anything but their proprietary hardware.) It had a very nice paperwhite monitor, though. Very crisp.
+crippanda6 I didn't mention the part where they used proprietary screws on the case and I had to break the case to get it open. They won't sell the driver heads to anyone but licensed IBM technicians.
@NightlyY2Kdecaf Yeah, I know. Ironically if their licensing terms for the PS/2 hardware was less aggressive they could have succeeded. Greed killed them.
This is so funny to watch... I was a young kid and wanted a computer SOOO bad, so my mom bought this for Christmas, what a great surprise in the day!!!
Thank you so much for this unboxing, as a computer science student, I'm so curious about IBM stuffs like this, I'm so fascinated about the technology back then, it's kinda crazy how fast the technology could grew over the time
One of my high school science teachers had a collection of these machines with a network set up in his classroom of the Model 25s and a couple of higher end PS/2s that had been handed down from other departments. He used them to run quiz software that booted from floppies, and I used to help him after school to duplicate the disks. I believe in my senior year, he replaced them with hand-me-down Compaq 486s from the computer labs when they upgraded. In middle school, many of the classrooms and labs had IBM "EduQuest" systems, which had a similar form factor to the Model 25, but had more modern hardware and better expandability. I believe those machines are fairly rare because they were only targeted at the education market
Heck Media Indeed, such "attention to detail" is almost a lost art in all but the most outrageously expensive items today. IBM, XEROX, BELL LABS, ect put attention to detail in all their products across the board, I miss those days. sure you might pay a bit more, but it was worth it.
Senior year of high school, I was taking the highest level computer course my school taught. That would be word processing, using Word Perfect 3.1 on a network of these, ahh the early 90's.
I enjoy seeing all the IBM products on your page. My dad has worked for IBM since 1980 and We started off with the IBM PCjr, then a PS/1. After that, we had a couple IBM Thinkpads here and there but desktops we always just built together and stuck to AMD processors.
The user interface for most of that software was heavily influenced by IBM mainframe software design - the menus, 'enter selection number', F key options at the bottom of the screen, F keys used for everything, and the whole general appearance of the text screens.
I enjoy your longer videos as I find it very relaxing to listen to your voice and watch. I also appreciate though that your longer videos are rare because I wouldn't have the time to watch every video if they are longer.
I just wanted to say that I like this "unstructured" format quite a bit more when you are just playing around with stuff. I like the minimal editing, and the continuous flow without cuts. Also, I would enjoy just some videos of you playing some random little games that you like on DOS, in the unstructured format, similar to the recent "Let's Talk Edutainment (and play the 1993 Oregon Trail)" video.
I love that external SCSI enclosure. I have always had a fascination with first party external add-ons, and that is one of them. One that is also very intriguing is the IBM 5161 expansion chassis, though I have never seen one, only pictures.
I rescued one of these computers last month from the dump. I finally got around to powering it up yesterday and it boots up fine and Basic seems to function properly. I have so system disks for it so I need to source from somewhere and write up one. Mine has the color monitor but I've yet to see if it displays correctly since the boot screen is in mono. It was very cool seeing your get unpacked, just as it must have been like 30 years ago. The wasn't a remote chance I could have afforded one of these back then.
It's really a testament to the quality of your videos that I read the notification for a video about "IBM PS/2 Model 25 + Model M SSK", a topic that seems really boring to me, notice LGR uploaded it and click it instantly. You just have a way of making the most mundane topics interesting. Looking forward to you hitting 1m soon my dude.
In my school we had model 30s with SSKs, and the teacher had a model 25 with a full-sized M keyboard. Ahhh the memories.. Get that model 30 up and running asap. :)
What a fun trip down memory lane. I'm pretty sure my dad had this same (or very similar) model, but with his electronics expertise starting and ending with setting the VCR clock, it didn't get much use. On a side note, it's astonishing how much some of those older keyboards go for. Another great video!
And they don't have any modern keys such as a windows key, sleep button or multimedia buttons. I much prefer quiet modern keyboards with the extra keys/buttons.
My dad wishes he has his baseball collection since he was a kid in the 1930s and 40s. And of course I wish I had bought shares in Microsoft in 1984 instead of Niagara Mohawk Power Corporation.
I love watching these videos of old machines! It has really increased my appreciation for these old machines! Whenever I visit the PC museum at Super MAGfest, my room mates can never get me to leave haha!
My high school had a whole ROOM of these, and they were all on 1 or 2 light switches, and booted off the network. You'd have to boot them at least a half hour before class because they took that long to boot all at once over the Novell network. So great! If you wanted to be an enormous ass, you could switch them all off in the middle of class!
Pefectly Rectangular / Square design . . . the Screen flows to the base, to the drives, to the disks. Simplicity & Elegance. Rows after Rows of them in computer labs and businesses all looked very orderly and modern.
I always find myself watching your videos late at night I just turned on my tablet and saw this video open I don't know why I'm always watching videos at night but they're entertaining at least.
If I remember correctly mouse balls never were the things that got dirty (pun intended), but those small plastic cylinders that registered movement. I always had an xacto knife handy to scrape the caked dust
René Jiménez that's how i remember the mouse on my family's pc back when, but school mouse balls would get FILTHY. what made it worse was the school glued/screwed the little compartment shut so you were stuck with barely useable mice.
supercuttlefish1 I just ripped off that little "don't open" seal and cleaned the crap anyways, screw the IT guys that assume highschoolers don't know what a ball mouse was
Ha ha Back in the day when I did desktop support, staff repeatedly phoned in about their ball mice saying that the cursor was not going where they wanted to and could they please have a replacement. A quick scrape of the rollers with a small flat blade and staff looked at me with complete surprise as their mouse was as good as new. Great stuff, but I couldnt help wondering about that manky crap that coated their desks and ended up wrapped round the rollers.
When you do your episode on MCA I hope you talk about how it did find a niche in IBM's supercomputer offerings! When I worked in my university's IT department we had a scaled-back version of the RS/6000 cluster that was the basis of Deep Blue, and it used MCA as its processor interconnect for the clustering. Really cool stuff.
My first work computer was a PS/2 model 25. At home I had a Commodore C128D with an added 1581 disk drive. I ran Geos on the commodore and personally purchased the MSDOS version of same for the work computer. Since the 1581 DD could read/write the MSDOS disks I could jump back and forth between the two systems easily. It kept my 8-bit commodore relevant for many years further than it would have been (I think into the 90s).
@@Xepscern Old thread, I know; but I was also in a similar boat myself when I was younger. My feet steadily grew up to a peak of 17 1/2-18 4E at 16 years old, but then started shrinking in my early-mid 20s down to 15s. Wasn't weight related either. I think it has something to do with the arch of the foot changing during growth spurts through puberty.
My feet used to be a size 14 but, similar to you, I lost a bunch of weight about 10 years ago and now I wear a size 12 or 13 depending on the brand. Never expected that as a side-effect of weight loss!
One of these was just donated to me yesterday! Haven't even fired it up yet, but mine is the revision with the color display built in. I'm looking forward to cleaning it and firing it up!
When I was in tenth grade, lo these 30 years ago, I took a touch typing class, where we were taught that venerable art on electric typewriters. When we returned to school after Christmas vacation and I entered the classroom, all the typewriters had been spirited away and replaced by IBM PS/2s that looked almost identical to the one in your video (except the displays were color). No hard drives; they booted from either floppy disk (two drives) or off the LAN. If I had to look back, I'd say that's where my love for computers and tech really started.
Father Mulcahy, Col. Potter, Klinger , Radar O'Reilly, Trapper John MacIntyre, Margaret "Hot lips" Houlihan and Frank "Ferret Face" Burns. Nice "photoshopping" they did :D
It's funny because those characters were never on the show at the same time; Trapper John's actor left during the same season break that they replaced Colonel Blake with Potter.
When I moved to my dad's house, the school had hundreds of Model 25SX computers. Each class had 6 + labs with a full 25-30. The first year I was there, we had some kind of dual OS setup, and we had access to the internet from all computers because of the Token Ring network. They switched to Windows 3.1 for workgroups when I was in middle school around 1997. Before high school, my first summer job was working for the Board of Corporate Services, doing maintenance on all the AV tech and computers in my area. That was a great summer learning about tech and A+ certification stuff. We cleaned so many Model M keyboards with nothing but compressed air, fantastic cleaner, and a scrub brush. For those computers, you would pull 2 screws and disconnect a VGA cable, then blow them out. One guy forgot the cable and had to go back to 20 computers in 1 day and plug it back in. I wouldn't mind finding one of these 386 systems with ethernet to run DOS and Windows 3.1. I would also want to get the Model M to match. It also explains why I like clicky keys, as they were the keyboards I learned to type on.
@@WildDiamond07 That... was a quick response. Well, yeah, but it still gives him trouble. I mean, even hollywood movies that have swearing in them don't all have the NC-17 rating, right?
The model 25 definitely did come with just 720k floppy drive, as it was the entry level model. The 1989 upgraded Model 25-286 came with 1,44mb floppy drive.
Keyboard plugs into port 1. Mouse plugs into port 2. Should you have a combination keyboard/mouse, also known as a keybouse or mouboard, that plugs into port manteau. ...Sorry. I'll get my coat.
One way to distract me from the worries of the world is to clothesline me with a pun like that Now I have other worries to think about What kind of interface standard is used with the Manteau port, I wonder - "NailClipper"?
NOice. I only have bad memories of near destroyed Gateway towers in my high school library. All XP machines and sometimes 98. None of them ran 7. Having my mom's old laptop she used for her B.S was a godsend.
A friend of mine use to when he needed to clean the ball in his mouse would pop it into his mouth, swish it around and then wipe it off and put it back in.
It was gross. I was pretty young at the time and he almost had me convinced that was just the way you do it. Almost, the first time I needed to clean a pc mouse I remember looking in there at the crud on the wheels and thinking how does he do this.. and I'll never look at an old ball mouse the same again
OMG LGR I still HAve mine. My mom Got this Computer as a Gift FRom the First President Bush. Mine has a Double Disk Drive. complete with all the guides and Printer. Its a Pure CGA and MCGA power House PC Game for me.
Ooh, sounds pretty quiet for a tiny old computer. The monochrome display in some of the programs made me think of these computer animations made in the 60s on an IBM mainframe. They're so charming and old fashioned looking. ^w^
My parents bought the color version of this PS/2 Model in the late 90s at a flea market and gave it to me as my first computer, the previous owner had installed a 2gb hard drive and a 1.44mb Floppy Drive and it came with Win 3.1 already installed and I spent most of my time playing Duke Nukem 1 and 2 on it and I still play on it from time to time. I did not know that there was a Black and White version of this computer.
My high school had Model 25s for their AP computer science class. We learned Pascal and a little assembly language on it. My college had Model 30s in their lab. "How you gonna do it? PS/2 it!"
My school had a bunch of PS/2s (mostly the desktop-type Model 30, and the all-in-one EduQuest Model 40) so I grew up with them. I bought one of those same PS/2 mice at VCF East last year, and it's hooked up to my (very not PS/2) retroPC :)
that dust that came from the mouse cable is plastic softener that slowly creeps out of the plastic over time, and i'd be sarcastic if i said it was good for you.
I remember back in the old days when if you were working on machines from multiple manufacturers you always kept a small library of startup disks. I was always looking for the most pared down startup disk that gave me the bare minimum to get WIN 3.1 or WIN 95 installed. Then I'd use it on everything.
Freddy’s Rescue Roundup!!! I used to spend hours glued to that demo disk! And yeah those apps are definitely meant for CGA graphics, but that was awesome seeing my old favorites again!
We had Freddie's Rescue Roundup on our 386 when I was a kid. The game had CGA Color graphics and the Levels were groups of 4 screens that the player could cycle through, The goal was the rescue all the roadrunners from the malfunctioning robots.
Does this distributor not have a physical location? Their phone number's area code indicates they are the next county over from me, and now I'm curious...
Anyone interested in the Magical Warehouse, feel free to contact me at ibm (at) nyceonline.net. It's not a retail location by any means, but I'll gladly entertain a visit ! We're located in Westbury, NY. (Long Island)
This brings back such memories. This was my first PC, except that I had the color version. Instead of a SCSI drive, I had a 4869 external drive for my 5 1/4 floppies. I spend way too many hours playing Freddy's Rescue Roundup, until I had saved enough to get some real games. I regret not keeping this thing.
I'm 62 years old. The surge of excitement and anticipation when you toggled the power switch took me back to earlier times. Turning on your computer was like digging up a treasure chest and cracking it open. Ah, the memories.
Fun fact: The PS/2 Model 25 was one of the first PCs to come with Windows. There was a "Collegiate Edition" of the Model 25 that came bundled with a mouse and a copy of Microsoft Windows 1.04, on 3½" diskettes.
how many 3 1/2 diskettes?
Iirc it fit on a single HD (1.44MB) disk. It seems to have been distributed on 5 360KB disks originally though? I never saw smaller than 720KB double sided disks myself.
EDIT: Actually, the earliy 5.25" disks were probably 360KB come to think of it (like old C64 disks).
But weren't they initially designed for this strange IBM os!?....I lack the name at the moment =)
You're thinking of OS/2... but not the Model 25. It wasn't powerful enough to run OS/2.
VWestlife Thx for educating me....I thought the two were related in some way...I grew up in the 90's...so although I grew up in the childhood of PCs... Or maybe the teen years...PS/2 and os/2 were before my time....
Thx again for your answers!! I appreciate it when ppl answer on RUclips... Way to few ppl do that here =)
Have a good one!! Greetings
I was very intrigued by your technique of checking the manual before plugging things in. I will consider employing this technique.
LGR filmed this on the 1st of April. Gotcha!
cassnate6259 I don't understand. Is the manual supposed to contain some sort of information that is needed?
It’s to avoid trying to turn it on while you were supposed to do something. It avoids a confusing mess
To get started, might I suggest the Manual Reader's Manual, 5000th Ed., by Ur Mahm? It also comes with a free manual
Oh, man! It's just like when I opened my fresh PS/1 (model 2168) back in '93!! Ohhhhh, the nostalgia!!!....
This just made my day, Clint! Thank you!! :)
It made me remember how theres few things as satisfying as a freshly cleaned mouse ball and rollers...
The RUclips authority on vintage computers: "Look how clean my ball is!"
I freaking love you dude.
that dust probably was coke :p
"Sorry Gary Dix"
Man, I miss when turning on your PC was like firing up a Jet.
Ironman1o1 Just switched fans in my Win 98 Compaq, before you heard that it was on if you stood outside the front door, now you can be in the same room with it on and almost not notice it :)
Just get some Pentium or PowerMac fans for the airport experience
You should hear the AIO water cooler on my PC XD.
lmao so true. Those beeps from the internal speaker, sounds of the hard drive booting up and "WRRRRRRR"s of the fan were amazing.
Never mind the sounds of Windows booting.
I Fart Oreos Which Windows did you have in mind, 95 and XP have the best start up sound imo
*Turns on SCSI drive*
IT'S SO QUIET YOU CAN BARELY HEAR IT
WHAT?!
LGR god that noise? Could you turn the volume down on it? Aha😝
The SCSI jet engine.
HUH??
I’m pretty sure that drive is going over 10,000 rpm
You know, im not really a tech guy more into cars, guns and motorcycles. but your videos really bring the nostalgia from my childhood and make this subject interesting. We used these things in school in the late 1990s when I was a little kid. Those old ibms running dos, then beige apples then the multi colored apples with those horrible 1 button mouses. Good times. Didn't have normal pcs at school until the mid 2000s. Freind of mine had 2 pcs that would fit your channel bsck then. One in a woodgrain case with a turbo button.
As someone who only built their first PC last year these old PC's are almost alien to me. Love seeing how far tech has come in a relatively short time and how much more user friendly it is nowadays.
They were great for learning how computers work and programming in assembler and that kind of stuff, but, yeah, modern PC's are so much more fun. Old business software like spreadsheets and word processors were just awful.
What I miss from hardware of those days is build quality. Those keyboards are still in use and some of them are older than me. IBM just made things properly to last. They were expensive, but you knew damn well it was a good purchase.
Winston Wolfe These were dated even for their time.
Yup, now a days you don't really have to know a lot to put a desktop together.
@@ShadowRidgeHernando Still, not everyone can assemble a desktop computer these days. You need technical know how.
Oh my god freddie's rescue roundup. I used to play that on my grandmother's IBM PS/2 all the time so many years ago. You just brought back a lot of memories with that. And yes it has a CGA color version iirc, lots of pinks and blues.
My favorite part of this was when you got excited and said, "Alright, lets use this mother******!"
This made my day by far. I'm always excited to see the content you put out.
Same.
I consider this model to be my first computer, even though I'd used other computers prior. Now it was way out dated when my brother gave it to me but I loved it. I had a computer in my room and I'd take school notes with it and type up papers. I thought I was so awesome. My brother would go to state auctions and buy these and passed one on to me. I'm pretty sure it's still in my parents' basement.
I owned the PS 2 model 25, and I know from sad personal experience that it has a really bad design flaw. One day when I was inserting a floppy, it snapped the drive head right off. It used all proprietary parts, so you couldn't just install a clone drive. The system was two generations obsolete at the time, so I called IBM about getting the pin-out configuration to allow me to put a clone drive in. One of their techs explained it was a known design flaw; the floppy had been designed to install vertically, so its horizontal placement meant the drive head hung lower than spec and would eventually catch on the floppy and break.
The tech said they couldn't give me the pin-out, but they'd be happy to send out a technician to repair it... at $200 an hour, timed from the time they leave the office to the time they return. I politely declined his offer, took the thing to an independent tech, and he used a multimeter to get the pin-out himself. I ended up paying $25 for an adaptor so I could install a $15 clone drive instead of the $150 proprietary drive IBM wanted to sell me. (It turns out that IBM just moved the power pin from one side to the other, just enough difference that you'd fry your drive if you tried to use anything but their proprietary hardware.)
It had a very nice paperwhite monitor, though. Very crisp.
Thank you for sharing, I love hearing about older customer support issues
+crippanda6 I didn't mention the part where they used proprietary screws on the case and I had to break the case to get it open. They won't sell the driver heads to anyone but licensed IBM technicians.
How the times have changed
No wonder the clones killed them with scummy moves like that,
@NightlyY2Kdecaf Yeah, I know. Ironically if their licensing terms for the PS/2 hardware was less aggressive they could have succeeded. Greed killed them.
This is so funny to watch... I was a young kid and wanted a computer SOOO bad, so my mom bought this for Christmas, what a great surprise in the day!!!
Thank you so much for this unboxing, as a computer science student, I'm so curious about IBM stuffs like this, I'm so fascinated about the technology back then, it's kinda crazy how fast the technology could grew over the time
i love the slap of the enter key
It's so satisfying to watch this video. Is like the Bob Ross of the retroware.
Rodrigo Badin "There are no bad computers, just happy little accidents..."
Exactly!
One of my high school science teachers had a collection of these machines with a network set up in his classroom of the Model 25s and a couple of higher end PS/2s that had been handed down from other departments. He used them to run quiz software that booted from floppies, and I used to help him after school to duplicate the disks. I believe in my senior year, he replaced them with hand-me-down Compaq 486s from the computer labs when they upgraded.
In middle school, many of the classrooms and labs had IBM "EduQuest" systems, which had a similar form factor to the Model 25, but had more modern hardware and better expandability. I believe those machines are fairly rare because they were only targeted at the education market
Just discovered this channel 2 months ago. God I love what you do man. Makes me feel so nostalgic.
Each line of that Word Search maker boops a different note-- what a great attention to detail from IBM. They were king for a reason.
Heck Media
Indeed, such "attention to detail" is almost a lost art in all but the most outrageously expensive items today. IBM, XEROX, BELL LABS, ect put attention to detail in all their products across the board, I miss those days. sure you might pay a bit more, but it was worth it.
Senior year of high school, I was taking the highest level computer course my school taught. That would be word processing, using Word Perfect 3.1 on a network of these, ahh the early 90's.
Not much has changed, except now the highest level is making games in powerpoint.
Similar experience but also lotus 123.
A video about the IBM PS/2 and it's over half an hour long?! You're really spoiling us Clint.
I love me some new old stock!
Ha, cool! I didn't know you were an LGR subscriber Lon (not that I'm surprised, heh). Love your channel too!
@@MoonsideResident to
Chicken or Beef?
I enjoy seeing all the IBM products on your page. My dad has worked for IBM since 1980 and We started off with the IBM PCjr, then a PS/1. After that, we had a couple IBM Thinkpads here and there but desktops we always just built together and stuck to AMD processors.
The user interface for most of that software was heavily influenced by IBM mainframe software design - the menus, 'enter selection number', F key options at the bottom of the screen, F keys used for everything, and the whole general appearance of the text screens.
John Ward watches LGR...I knew I was in good company.
Yes justice Yes peace!
I enjoy your longer videos as I find it very relaxing to listen to your voice and watch. I also appreciate though that your longer videos are rare because I wouldn't have the time to watch every video if they are longer.
LGR, I friggin' love the retro hardware on this channel. Please keep it coming and keep up the fantastic work!
I just wanted to say that I like this "unstructured" format quite a bit more when you are just playing around with stuff. I like the minimal editing, and the continuous flow without cuts. Also, I would enjoy just some videos of you playing some random little games that you like on DOS, in the unstructured format, similar to the recent "Let's Talk Edutainment (and play the 1993 Oregon Trail)" video.
I love that external SCSI enclosure. I have always had a fascination with first party external add-ons, and that is one of them. One that is also very intriguing is the IBM 5161 expansion chassis, though I have never seen one, only pictures.
I rescued one of these computers last month from the dump. I finally got around to powering it up yesterday and it boots up fine and Basic seems to function properly. I have so system disks for it so I need to source from somewhere and write up one. Mine has the color monitor but I've yet to see if it displays correctly since the boot screen is in mono.
It was very cool seeing your get unpacked, just as it must have been like 30 years ago. The wasn't a remote chance I could have afforded one of these back then.
It's really a testament to the quality of your videos that I read the notification for a video about "IBM PS/2 Model 25 + Model M SSK", a topic that seems really boring to me, notice LGR uploaded it and click it instantly. You just have a way of making the most mundane topics interesting. Looking forward to you hitting 1m soon my dude.
Glad to hear that, and thanks :)
He did!
In my school we had model 30s with SSKs, and the teacher had a model 25 with a full-sized M keyboard. Ahhh the memories.. Get that model 30 up and running asap. :)
YEEESSSSSS! This is the one that I grew up on in school. Lots of Oregon Trail and Space Quest played on this thing in elementary school.
That question mark sticker being color matched to the case is the sexiest thing I've ever seen.
What a fun trip down memory lane. I'm pretty sure my dad had this same (or very similar) model, but with his electronics expertise starting and ending with setting the VCR clock, it didn't get much use. On a side note, it's astonishing how much some of those older keyboards go for.
Another great video!
And they don't have any modern keys such as a windows key, sleep button or multimedia buttons. I much prefer quiet modern keyboards with the extra keys/buttons.
I wished I still had mine to sell to be rich. ;P
Model M FTW!
My dad wishes he has his baseball collection since he was a kid in the 1930s and 40s. And of course I wish I had bought shares in Microsoft in 1984 instead of Niagara Mohawk Power Corporation.
Wrestling With Gaming 0
the captions at the very start are just wonderful. "Clunk, thunk crinkle and thwap" where the names of the original Rice Crispie Elfs
I love watching these videos of old machines! It has really increased my appreciation for these old machines! Whenever I visit the PC museum at Super MAGfest, my room mates can never get me to leave haha!
My high school had a whole ROOM of these, and they were all on 1 or 2 light switches, and booted off the network.
You'd have to boot them at least a half hour before class because they took that long to boot all at once over the Novell network. So great!
If you wanted to be an enormous ass, you could switch them all off in the middle of class!
A 30 minute video? What a great monday treat :)
Always good to hear Clint advocate for proper ball care.
When that C:\> prompt came on, I actually got chills and this emotional wave. Did not expect that :D
Pefectly Rectangular / Square design . . . the Screen flows to the base, to the drives, to the disks. Simplicity & Elegance.
Rows after Rows of them in computer labs and businesses all looked very orderly and modern.
Wow, I JUST now realized that the PS/2 keyboard/mouse connector comes from the IBM PS/2....
Ngl, the sound of these old computers is weirdly relaxing.
"Look how clean my ball is"
Clint "balls of steel" Elgiarre 1969 - 2018
Pope Zosimus the Third I think it's more like 1989 lol.
And his surname is Basinger last I saw... were you referencing something?
Also, his middle name is “Simulated Woodgrain”
@@AgentTasmania Elgiarre said out loud is LGR
Basinger
I always find myself watching your videos late at night I just turned on my tablet and saw this video open I don't know why I'm always watching videos at night but they're entertaining at least.
If I remember correctly mouse balls never were the things that got dirty (pun intended), but those small plastic cylinders that registered movement. I always had an xacto knife handy to scrape the caked dust
René Jiménez that's how i remember the mouse on my family's pc back when, but school mouse balls would get FILTHY. what made it worse was the school glued/screwed the little compartment shut so you were stuck with barely useable mice.
The idea is that if you kept the ball clean the rollers wouldn't get caked up. Nobody did that though.
René Jiménez Yeah. When we got our first modern family PC in like 2000 it was always those rollers that got crudded up.
supercuttlefish1 I just ripped off that little "don't open" seal and cleaned the crap anyways, screw the IT guys that assume highschoolers don't know what a ball mouse was
Ha ha Back in the day when I did desktop support, staff repeatedly phoned in about their ball mice saying that the cursor was not going where they wanted to and could they please have a replacement. A quick scrape of the rollers with a small flat blade and staff looked at me with complete surprise as their mouse was as good as new. Great stuff, but I couldnt help wondering about that manky crap that coated their desks and ended up wrapped round the rollers.
Dude! That keyboard was born on the same day I was, 29/07/1987. Awesome!
When you do your episode on MCA I hope you talk about how it did find a niche in IBM's supercomputer offerings! When I worked in my university's IT department we had a scaled-back version of the RS/6000 cluster that was the basis of Deep Blue, and it used MCA as its processor interconnect for the clustering. Really cool stuff.
My first work computer was a PS/2 model 25. At home I had a Commodore C128D with an added 1581 disk drive. I ran Geos on the commodore and personally purchased the MSDOS version of same for the work computer. Since the 1581 DD could read/write the MSDOS disks I could jump back and forth between the two systems easily. It kept my 8-bit commodore relevant for many years further than it would have been (I think into the 90s).
"I used to have size 15 feet... for a bit... Then they like, shrunk..."
Dude...
jagardina yeah I'm wondering that myself
@@Xepscern Old thread, I know; but I was also in a similar boat myself when I was younger. My feet steadily grew up to a peak of 17 1/2-18 4E at 16 years old, but then started shrinking in my early-mid 20s down to 15s. Wasn't weight related either. I think it has something to do with the arch of the foot changing during growth spurts through puberty.
Big feet big meat
My feet used to be a size 14 but, similar to you, I lost a bunch of weight about 10 years ago and now I wear a size 12 or 13 depending on the brand. Never expected that as a side-effect of weight loss!
One of these was just donated to me yesterday! Haven't even fired it up yet, but mine is the revision with the color display built in. I'm looking forward to cleaning it and firing it up!
These were a staple of computer labs in my district back in the '90s.
When I was in tenth grade, lo these 30 years ago, I took a touch typing class, where we were taught that venerable art on electric typewriters. When we returned to school after Christmas vacation and I entered the classroom, all the typewriters had been spirited away and replaced by IBM PS/2s that looked almost identical to the one in your video (except the displays were color). No hard drives; they booted from either floppy disk (two drives) or off the LAN. If I had to look back, I'd say that's where my love for computers and tech really started.
0:53 woah... that’s one of the cast of MASH!
Good spot I think it was indeed "Radar from M*A*S*H* (Gary Burghoff} He was a spokes person for IBM in the 80's apparently ! WOW I never knew that....
Father Mulcahy, Col. Potter, Klinger , Radar O'Reilly, Trapper John MacIntyre, Margaret "Hot lips" Houlihan and Frank "Ferret Face" Burns. Nice "photoshopping" they did :D
It's funny because those characters were never on the show at the same time; Trapper John's actor left during the same season break that they replaced Colonel Blake with Potter.
When I moved to my dad's house, the school had hundreds of Model 25SX computers. Each class had 6 + labs with a full 25-30. The first year I was there, we had some kind of dual OS setup, and we had access to the internet from all computers because of the Token Ring network. They switched to Windows 3.1 for workgroups when I was in middle school around 1997. Before high school, my first summer job was working for the Board of Corporate Services, doing maintenance on all the AV tech and computers in my area. That was a great summer learning about tech and A+ certification stuff. We cleaned so many Model M keyboards with nothing but compressed air, fantastic cleaner, and a scrub brush. For those computers, you would pull 2 screws and disconnect a VGA cable, then blow them out. One guy forgot the cable and had to go back to 20 computers in 1 day and plug it back in. I wouldn't mind finding one of these 386 systems with ethernet to run DOS and Windows 3.1. I would also want to get the Model M to match. It also explains why I like clicky keys, as they were the keyboards I learned to type on.
"Alright, lets use this mother*BEEEEP*"
Lmao. Thats such a mood.
He said the f-word and that's somewhat not for people under 18 despite being replaced with the Color Bars sound effect.
@@WildDiamond07 RUclips after 2015. You can't use naughty words, but you can lie to kids by using clockbait titles.
I think LGR said the f-word more times.
@@WildDiamond07 That... was a quick response.
Well, yeah, but it still gives him trouble. I mean, even hollywood movies that have swearing in them don't all have the NC-17 rating, right?
Yes and f-word is used in some PG-13 movies.
Our school was full of Model 25s. Wish I could have got a few of them before they went to recycling. Fond memories of these bad boys.
The model 25 definitely did come with just 720k floppy drive, as it was the entry level model. The 1989 upgraded Model 25-286 came with 1,44mb floppy drive.
This video made me become the very very proud owner of a IBM SSK October 14th 1987
Keyboard plugs into port 1.
Mouse plugs into port 2.
Should you have a combination keyboard/mouse, also known as a keybouse or mouboard, that plugs into port manteau.
...Sorry. I'll get my coat.
GET OUTTA HERE!!! 😂😂
One way to distract me from the worries of the world is to clothesline me with a pun like that
Now I have other worries to think about
What kind of interface standard is used with the Manteau port, I wonder - "NailClipper"?
NOice.
I only have bad memories of near destroyed Gateway towers in my high school library. All XP machines and sometimes 98.
None of them ran 7. Having my mom's old laptop she used for her B.S was a godsend.
My body is ready for this video.
real comforting to have your computer tell you that monty python is the direction your video's going
A friend of mine use to when he needed to clean the ball in his mouse would pop it into his mouth, swish it around and then wipe it off and put it back in.
Nooooooo
LGR my thoughts exactly
It was gross. I was pretty young at the time and he almost had me convinced that was just the way you do it. Almost, the first time I needed to clean a pc mouse I remember looking in there at the crud on the wheels and thinking how does he do this.. and I'll never look at an old ball mouse the same again
Jimmy G I would think cleaning a mouse ball like that'd be a bad idea, in more ways than one.
Eww....
Sure is nice to see a working PS/2! My Model 70 386 has been benched a while due to needing a floppy drive rebuild...
Loving the cast of MASH on that old advertisement image!
OMG LGR I still HAve mine. My mom Got this Computer as a Gift FRom the First President Bush. Mine has a Double Disk Drive. complete with all the guides and Printer. Its a Pure CGA and MCGA power House PC Game for me.
23:20 no one expects the Spanish inquisition!
yes one expects the Spanish inquisition!
Great to see that computer. It was my first computer, luckily I had the color monitor. I had lots of fun with it.
Oh! my god!!! I love this machine :)
Was a great video clint. Thanks for showing us this. :)
"I pressed the wrong button and I won so that's good"
LGR, 2018
Ooh, sounds pretty quiet for a tiny old computer.
The monochrome display in some of the programs made me think of these computer animations made in the 60s on an IBM mainframe. They're so charming and old fashioned looking. ^w^
I do like these live non scripted videos :)
Yeah nothing wrong with unstructured and spontaneous once in a while. Tech tales will balance it out :-)
My parents bought the color version of this PS/2 Model in the late 90s at a flea market and gave it to me as my first computer, the previous owner had installed a 2gb hard drive and a 1.44mb Floppy Drive and it came with Win 3.1 already installed and I spent most of my time playing Duke Nukem 1 and 2 on it and I still play on it from time to time. I did not know that there was a Black and White version of this computer.
You did it! You found the model 25!!!!
Nice! By the way not every video needs to be scripted. I think most LGR fans dig these sort of videos too. Cheers man.
4:10
*Clutches his headphones and writhes in pain.*
Damn, even through a recording that sound makes my skin crawl.
Yes enough woodgrain
My high school had Model 25s for their AP computer science class. We learned Pascal and a little assembly language on it. My college had Model 30s in their lab.
"How you gonna do it? PS/2 it!"
I like to be already in the future.
I bet this computer probably freaked out when it heard it was 2018.
My school had a bunch of PS/2s (mostly the desktop-type Model 30, and the all-in-one EduQuest Model 40) so I grew up with them. I bought one of those same PS/2 mice at VCF East last year, and it's hooked up to my (very not PS/2) retroPC :)
Why the heck did I hear in my head the line "Warpspeed Mr. Zulu" as soon the Fan from the Harddisk starts to spin.
That scsi drive is a Beast. Cool computer LGR.
that dust that came from the mouse cable is plastic softener that slowly creeps out of the plastic over time, and i'd be sarcastic if i said it was good for you.
I remember back in the old days when if you were working on machines from multiple manufacturers you always kept a small library of startup disks. I was always looking for the most pared down startup disk that gave me the bare minimum to get WIN 3.1 or WIN 95 installed. Then I'd use it on everything.
23:31 you stopped it there!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats when the foot comes down and swishes everything. :-(
Wow Clint that giant white rectangle standing up is a hard drive ? Holy crap! I have never seen one of those.
2:04 Hey, Clint. Is your refrigerator running?
He'd better go get it!
Freddy’s Rescue Roundup!!! I used to spend hours glued to that demo disk! And yeah those apps are definitely meant for CGA graphics, but that was awesome seeing my old favorites again!
[Iowa appears.] Yeah, alright. [Moving on.]
We had Freddie's Rescue Roundup on our 386 when I was a kid. The game had CGA Color graphics and the Levels were groups of 4 screens that the player could cycle through, The goal was the rescue all the roadrunners from the malfunctioning robots.
I'm just... just so jealous.
Oh man, this is a beautiful computer. I would love to get one brand new. So cool
That's the worst solitaire I've ever seen
But you gotta love the standard ascii symbol characters
Clint's absolute love of these vintage units comes through so clearly makes his videos awesome.
Does this distributor not have a physical location? Their phone number's area code indicates they are the next county over from me, and now I'm curious...
hey told me (admittedly some time ago now) that there was a warehouse of IBM stuff, but I don't know if it's accessible to the public
Ah well. Thanks anyway! And wireframe kaleidoscope is certainly an idea...
Did you email them to find that out?
Anyone interested in the Magical Warehouse, feel free to contact me at ibm (at) nyceonline.net. It's not a retail location by any means, but I'll gladly entertain a visit ! We're located in Westbury, NY. (Long Island)
We had these in my elementary school circa mid-late 1990s. I remember playing math blaster. They finally replaced them with windows PCs around 2000.
Greatest keyboard of all time, don't @ me
This brings back such memories. This was my first PC, except that I had the color version. Instead of a SCSI drive, I had a 4869 external drive for my 5 1/4 floppies. I spend way too many hours playing Freddy's Rescue Roundup, until I had saved enough to get some real games. I regret not keeping this thing.