Copco Lake After Drawdown - Klamath River Dam Removal (filmed 2/2/24)

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  • Copco Lake California after reservoir drawdown for dam removal.

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  • @loganfishbeard
    @loganfishbeard 5 месяцев назад +44

    I would love to see some videos like this of the river delta as well to see how it transforms over the next couple of years. The ammount of sediment the Elwah moved was mind blowing and it is small compared to the Kalamath.

    • @judithmccrea2601
      @judithmccrea2601 5 месяцев назад +4

      This river enters the ocean at a place called Remus. You can also google Yurok Tribal Klamath river restoration. There are quite a few videos out there.❤

    • @EH-jt8bk
      @EH-jt8bk 5 месяцев назад +1

      The Klamath is kind of the opposite of most rivers in that it has a fan shaped wide and flat area at its headwaters and a pretty small delta that pops out of the mountains right into the ocean. Hopefully the headwaters will see salmon again one day and the river can heal

    • @mbsouthpaw8982
      @mbsouthpaw8982 5 месяцев назад

      @@judithmccrea2601 ^Requa.

    • @TimeSurfer206
      @TimeSurfer206 4 месяца назад

      I imagine the blackberry picking will be outrageous in a few years.

    • @johnkilty5091
      @johnkilty5091 3 месяца назад +2

      @@TimeSurfer206 Nope! They have been planting millions of native seedlings.

  • @ridleyscurry2480
    @ridleyscurry2480 6 месяцев назад +43

    The amount of silt that was deposited is incredible. All those trees are 3/4 buried.

    • @ericjensen3662
      @ericjensen3662 5 месяцев назад +8

      Lots of nice top soil is now available.

    • @johnrflinn
      @johnrflinn 5 месяцев назад +3

      Wait for the renewal of the beaches when this sediment is carried out to the Pacific.

  • @butch4111
    @butch4111 5 месяцев назад +12

    When Nature reclaims it, its going to be magnificently Beautiful! The solid is extremely rich. Once it dries up some the transformation will be nothing short of amazing. What and see!

    • @dcpack
      @dcpack 5 месяцев назад +1

      Amazing? Compared to what?

    • @notsure6182
      @notsure6182 5 месяцев назад

      what a load of horseshit.

  • @waynehooper9093
    @waynehooper9093 5 месяцев назад +53

    Finally the river is flowing freely again. Can’t wait to see what it looks like in a few years.

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад +2

      Can you elaborate? everyone is saying this but its simply not true. I can't figure out if everyone is perpetuating a falsehood or if they just comment without knowing the facts . Do you know there are still dams upstream that hold back far more acre feet that copco and iron gate combined?

    • @toryhicks5147
      @toryhicks5147 5 месяцев назад

      @gisdp99 oh there wasnt one solution that would fix decades of ecological destruction? well then we better not do anything at all. after these dams are gone there will be hundreds of miles of river accessible once again to anadromous fish and much better habitat for trout
      "The four dams don’t provide flood control or irrigation. They generate a small amount of hydropower, which will be replaced using renewables and efficiency measures. In 2008, the Public Utilities Commissions in Oregon and California concluded that removing the dams, (instead of spending more than $500 million to bring the dams up to modern standards), would save PacifiCorp customers more than $100 million. It will also improve water quality - currently, toxic algae in the reservoirs behind the dams threaten the health of people as well as ecosystems.
      This dam removal and river restoration effort will be one of the most significant the world has ever seen. Never have four dams of this size been removed at once. These dams inundate many miles of habitat (4 square miles and 15 miles of river length) and block access to more than 400 miles of habitat for salmon and other species. "

    • @justintime41776
      @justintime41776 5 месяцев назад

      Your stupid electric cars pull as much power as 1800 homes in the hour it takes to charge them. Your solar panels from China won't cut it. Plus they are far worse for the environment. You people are destroying the earth not helping it.

    • @americanrambler4972
      @americanrambler4972 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@gisdp99 yes, that is correct, there are still dams up river controlling the amount of water supplied to the river. However, by reestablishing the river channels, the water flows will more closely reflect historical activities of the water patterns along the river drainage area. Hopefully, it reopens access to habitat for fish and native wildlife. I have looked at some studies where salmon producing rivers have been restored in Washington and the results over a 10 to 20 year period have been very impressive with unexpected wide area benefits for the overall drainage basin. And I have personally seen a couple of rivers where the returning native fish populations have occurred. And a couple where they have been decimated.
      There are policies in place which require those up river dams to provide water releases into the rivers to protect stream flows and protect the water temperature levels.

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад +1

      My brother has a place right near the Elwha . Huge difference between NW Washington and the upper Klamath, one is basically a rainforest and the other is basically a desert. Water is what restores these drainages, so if it takes 10 year in Washington I would expect 100 years around the Copco area. I am not exactly saying that the difference in time makes it less viable but it changes perceptions for sure. @@americanrambler4972

  • @johnkilty1419
    @johnkilty1419 5 месяцев назад +24

    Thanks. Great footage. I love seeing the washed gravel in the main stream bed. I'm curious to see what happens after the 1st big wash. I would imagine the silt will shrink back as the water drains from it. I was there 3 weeks ago. I will come back in the spring.

  • @brockroberts4258
    @brockroberts4258 5 месяцев назад +13

    Beautiful - in little time this place will show the beauty it was always meant to be.

    • @dcpack
      @dcpack 5 месяцев назад

      Meant to be? Who dictated that? The house you may live in...was that "meant" to be? The roads you drive on or the power plant juicing your internet access device...were they "meant" to be? Or just everything that serves your personal purpose and desires?

  • @josephastier7421
    @josephastier7421 5 месяцев назад +31

    The drowned trees still standing at the rivers edge are a message of hope.

    • @dcpack
      @dcpack 5 месяцев назад +2

      Grow up. They are dead trees.

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@dcpack I like those trees.

  • @georgehaydukeiii6396
    @georgehaydukeiii6396 6 месяцев назад +78

    That silt is mostly decayed algae. I bet it's super nutrient rich, just like river bottom land everywhere. I bet the replanting efforts will work really well. I hope the native species can out-compete any invasive's.

    • @tomharris3486
      @tomharris3486 5 месяцев назад +7

      Not necessarily true I rember when they dredged the klamath at keno oregon all that material was dredged and pumped on farm ground 50 years ago and the soil will not grow a thistle. To this date.

    • @GardenerEarthGuy
      @GardenerEarthGuy 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@tomharris3486metals....
      I think the mighty Alder can pull it off though! If Shasta erupted the river would look like this- it's only a geological event. Alder, lupine, fireweed, are going to be major players to watch...

    • @jamesducey2685
      @jamesducey2685 5 месяцев назад +1

      Is the proper term decayed?

    • @georgehaydukeiii6396
      @georgehaydukeiii6396 5 месяцев назад

      @@jamesducey2685 Yes sir.
      Thank you for pointing that out.

    • @georgehaydukeiii6396
      @georgehaydukeiii6396 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@JL-ln1gz Well I am not a soil scientist. I'm sure that material has been sampled and analyzed. I'm just speculating on the fact that the richest, most nutrient rich, best all around soil, doesn't occur on steep hillsides, it always occurs in river bottoms where the river has been depositing that rich soil for a long time. Why don't you do a little research into who has analyzed the lake bed, and what their findings were? I'd be interested to know.

  • @driftstone
    @driftstone 5 месяцев назад +11

    I did not expect to see the path of the river snake left and right through the valley. Hopeful for the future

  • @gisdp99
    @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад +5

    Excellent videography by the way. Glad people are getting this footage.

  • @slangster233
    @slangster233 5 месяцев назад +14

    What a beautiful valley it will soon be again.

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus 5 месяцев назад +8

    A *huge* amount of land back in the open air again!
    In 2-3 years or so, after this land has had some revegetation and a couple of summers to dry it out a bit, it'll look amazing!

  • @sincerewyd2285
    @sincerewyd2285 5 месяцев назад +4

    Beautiful too see the natural water flow again. Just as mother nature intended for it to be.. free of any damn dams..

  • @drawyrral
    @drawyrral 5 месяцев назад +2

    Beautiful. The best is yet to come.

  • @Dogatemyhomework927
    @Dogatemyhomework927 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for documenting this..

  • @pacificnorthwestgirl2725
    @pacificnorthwestgirl2725 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for filming. I look forward to how the river will look in this area - after the native plants are established.

  • @markkubiak8296
    @markkubiak8296 5 месяцев назад +4

    Given time to heal, this will be a stunning beautiful landscape once again.

    • @notsure6182
      @notsure6182 5 месяцев назад

      it was a beautiful place with the lake as well. no difference.

    • @georgehaydukeiii6396
      @georgehaydukeiii6396 5 месяцев назад

      It'll look just like it did for hundreds of thousands of years before the white invaders came and screwed it all up!

  • @michaelpapka1543
    @michaelpapka1543 5 месяцев назад +8

    I’m thinking it’s time to bust out the gold pan ! That’s some damn good mudd folks

  • @ericjensen3662
    @ericjensen3662 5 месяцев назад +16

    Looks to me like the lake was almost filled with sediment anyway. It was close to becoming a meadow. Sort of like the same thing that happens with beaver dams.

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад +1

      it had 300 year to go before sediment would have made it inoperable as a energy storage facility. Perhaps you should look at photos of the area prior to the lake being filled, it looks very similar

    • @chazman4461
      @chazman4461 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@gisdp99 The powerplant was not operating. There are press releases and reports explaining this.

    • @Skidderoperator
      @Skidderoperator 5 месяцев назад

      Dams=sediment

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад

      can you post a link? I was with the Pacificorp crew as well as the Swiftwater film crew when they blew the dam. I let them cross our property to access the viewpoint. Then engineer in charge of the copco power plant was there and he said they were literally making power as we watched. you could see the water leaving the base of the powerplant, and the turbines were spinning. @@chazman4461

    • @johnrflinn
      @johnrflinn 5 месяцев назад +1

      When reservoirs fill up with sediment they become flood hazards in heavy rain. They become huge shallow catchment basins.

  • @freeradical6390
    @freeradical6390 5 месяцев назад +2

    Nature will bring it back, bigger and better than ever.

  • @jasonardans4092
    @jasonardans4092 5 месяцев назад +7

    Growing up made alot of dams .i knew as a young boy dams were all temporary. Fish are so much more important than a dead lake i wish i could buy all the people land who are upset about what they think they lost but i cant i have been to walker tubed down the river before the fire i felt so many good souls there i wish to go there again with the fish

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад +6

      The lakes supported far more life than the river ever will. Many are of the belief that the lake life wasn't supposed to be there, and because of this in their (your) mind it has no value. Go knock on some doors and I am sure you will find people wanting to sell. If people really believed what has been told about how this will turn out then developers and speculators would be all over the place. They are not. The upper reaches of the klamath has always been a dirty little river, even before Keno and Link river dams. The lower klamath is a different story with the clean flows coming down out of the trinity's and such. Will it look better than this? of course. Will it be what most people have envisioned? no.

    • @theoriginalnewtboy
      @theoriginalnewtboy 5 месяцев назад

      @@gisdp99 I believe the 2002 fish kill alone killed far more life than the lakes held and supported, and that was only one year of many that had massive fish kills and toxic river water from the toxic algae in the lakes and warm river water, also from the lakes.
      I fished the lower and middle Klamath from 95 until 2003. I largely stopped when toxic algae in the water started killing dogs. It was gorgeous above Witchipec where the Trinity comes in, and still crystal clean above the Salmon River confluence back in the day. If it’s a dirty little river these days, that’s more reason to pull the dams, not keep them.
      I do think part of the restoration funds should go to offer buyouts of any lake adjacent properties that want out…then make that public land. I think it would be short sighted to sell property adjacent to what should be a world class salmon River in under a decade, but the next few years will be unpleasant so I get it why some want out.

  • @PDXDrumr
    @PDXDrumr 5 месяцев назад +7

    Awesome to see. I'll guarantee salmon will be using those newly available channels in

    • @russellstewart5414
      @russellstewart5414 5 месяцев назад +3

      We took out the Ballville dam in Ohio and within the first year we were catching fish above the oil dam area that hadn’t been in that part of the river for decades.

    • @PDXDrumr
      @PDXDrumr 5 месяцев назад +2

      @russellstewart5414 I think there was one recently in Maine too (paper mill?) was almost immediate. So good to see

  • @ericfielding2540
    @ericfielding2540 5 месяцев назад +2

    The tree trunks left from before the dam was built show how the river was in the past.

  • @WalkingBackwardsIntoTheFuture
    @WalkingBackwardsIntoTheFuture 5 месяцев назад +26

    So happy this is finally happening.. my grandpa Charlie fought for the dams coming down his whole life! Fought so my son could see a flowing river like his grandparents saw.. time for the land to heal itself with our help shaping it how we use to!

  • @jamesducey2685
    @jamesducey2685 5 месяцев назад +2

    Now the river can freely flow. And the fish can freely swim.

  • @johnrflinn
    @johnrflinn 5 месяцев назад +2

    This will look so much better after the trees grow back.

  • @Abe18874
    @Abe18874 5 месяцев назад +2

    What a lush beautiful Valley this will be. Quite Soon. The increased habitat for wildlife will be a benefit to Mother Earth.

  • @TheCriminalViolin
    @TheCriminalViolin 5 месяцев назад +1

    Adore this is happening. Beautiful to see what is hopefully soon to be planted with native species of groundcover, understory and lower, middle and upper canopy trees. It's high desert, so there is a far less vegetation than further west or northwest.

  • @ronansmith8381
    @ronansmith8381 5 месяцев назад +2

    It will look awesome in a few years

  • @wangchung8134
    @wangchung8134 4 месяца назад +1

    The lakefront people that are pissed are going to get the best "riverfront" land ever.....just be patient. I would go cold plunge in that New River everyday.

  • @flipstars
    @flipstars 5 месяцев назад +5

    Beautiful. Amazing. Going to be so wonderful when all the native grasses and shrubs grow back. Wish I owned land along that fake lake so I could bare witness to the rebirth of a fertile river valley. Glad it's in the history books now. Let's get the rest of them taken down.

  • @judithmccrea2601
    @judithmccrea2601 5 месяцев назад +2

    Earth will heal.❤❤❤

  • @DavidRobertson-pk4ld
    @DavidRobertson-pk4ld 2 месяца назад +1

    Yay!!!! A great victory for Mother Earth and all her creatures…

  • @DarrenandMelissa1
    @DarrenandMelissa1 4 месяца назад

    Its working as expected!

  • @sincerewyd2285
    @sincerewyd2285 5 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like that river was holding its breath ever since those dams were built. Now they're being demoed. i feel like the river is breathing again.

  • @marcsorensen2985
    @marcsorensen2985 4 месяца назад +1

    the ghost trees are stunning.

  • @patroberts5449
    @patroberts5449 5 месяцев назад +24

    A blip of Earth time will have this looking like there was never a dam, just like us humans….just a blip of time…..

    • @ssvocals
      @ssvocals 5 месяцев назад +2

      No. It won't. But keep dreaming

    • @chazman4461
      @chazman4461 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@ssvocals It actually does. It has been done multiple times. Within a year it will start to grow in and the banks will set up and harden. There are plenty of projects that occured where you can research this.

    • @sway2382
      @sway2382 5 месяцев назад +1

      I mean, yes, but to the mostly retirees who live around the lake- a 20 year fishing moratorium is the rest of their lives. Lets not get too cavalier about the renewal process, or the time that it will take before any of this is a public recreation area again. Worth it- absolutely. Blip, no. There will be a few thousand people who will individually "pay the price" for all of us.

    • @notsure6182
      @notsure6182 5 месяцев назад +1

      this is someone admitting they are anti human and that is their only reason to ruin a good dam

  • @tedsmith6137
    @tedsmith6137 4 месяца назад +1

    Seeing the amount of silt there, I wonder how the assumed volume of the reservoir compares to what was really held back. I think the actual would be way less than the calculated.

  • @Rembrant65
    @Rembrant65 5 месяцев назад +3

    Hope you go back after this storm. I'm wondering how long it will take to remove a hundred years of sediment. I'm thinking it will be pretty quick. But that's just a guess. The river is going to be brown like the Mississippi for a bit.

  • @frankanddanasnyder3272
    @frankanddanasnyder3272 5 месяцев назад +4

    That is a giant pile of sludge...

  • @jimmythepirate494
    @jimmythepirate494 5 месяцев назад +2

    Anybody got any used to be lakefront property for sale on the cheap?

  • @jeromedamian5740
    @jeromedamian5740 4 месяца назад +1

    In a few years, it's going to be an amazing transition of life . This needed to happen decades ago. I'm so grateful 🙏🏽 it finally has.

  • @MM-vx4ml
    @MM-vx4ml 5 месяцев назад +2

    I am curious about the houses on the edge of the old reservoir do they now own land to the edge of the river? Anybody know how that works?

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +2

      My understanding is there will be no adjustment of existing property lines. The lake bed will be given back to one or several tribes.

    • @MM-vx4ml
      @MM-vx4ml 5 месяцев назад +2

      nice, as it should@@hallamphoto

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад +2

      Where did you get that information? Never heard that and we own property adjacent to wards canyon and on the former lake. My understanding is the state will own it and it will be mostly public land@@hallamphoto

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад

      I imagine you will be giving your land back, assuming you own any@@MM-vx4ml

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@gisdp99 It's just hearsay. I heard the land will be given to the state first then returned to the tribes. I don't have an official source for this information but it is what I've heard from multiple individuals. It may or may not be accurate.

  • @Tiggitytye
    @Tiggitytye 5 месяцев назад +2

    Let it flow.

  • @Erin____
    @Erin____ 5 месяцев назад +3

    My thoughts and prayers go out to those whose vacation cabins’ resale value has been affected, lol.
    In all seriousness, this is wonderful and a step in the right direction. I am looking forward to seeing the renewal of this area as time goes by.

  • @papabear1417
    @papabear1417 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nature will reclaim.

  • @lavarrobinson5082
    @lavarrobinson5082 5 месяцев назад +4

    I started to tear up watching this. I've seen this before and it takes a long time for that land to recover.😢

  • @joshuaisrael2494
    @joshuaisrael2494 5 месяцев назад +4

    River is returning pretty quickly. Why is there no official statements from City of Yreka on this project? Why no statements from Congressmen LaMalfa and Bentz?

  • @johnnyfreedom3437
    @johnnyfreedom3437 3 месяца назад +1

    That looks like the Arkansas River does normally here in Oklahoma!

  • @Hybridog
    @Hybridog 5 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic. Seems like they should seed some native grasses on all that silt to slow down the inevitable wash out.

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +1

      They are.

    • @mbsouthpaw8982
      @mbsouthpaw8982 5 месяцев назад +2

      52,000 lb of native seeds (80 species) were collected and grown for 4 years. Already being planted.

  • @scott5803
    @scott5803 5 месяцев назад +14

    Looks better already.

    • @markskibo5159
      @markskibo5159 5 месяцев назад +1

      That was a beautiful lake ,I don't get a mud hole looks better.
      I know the fish like it

  • @jamesbutler181
    @jamesbutler181 5 месяцев назад +3

    regarding the people who once had lakefront property, does their property now extend to the riverbank?

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +2

      Nope. No adjustment of property lines.

    • @frederickbooth7970
      @frederickbooth7970 5 месяцев назад +3

      So, now who owns all of the new lands to be?@@hallamphoto

    • @5thGenNativeTexan
      @5thGenNativeTexan 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@hallamphoto Sucks for all those people.

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +3

      @@frederickbooth7970 ultimately it will be returned to one or several tribes is my understanding.

    • @UltraMagaFan
      @UltraMagaFan 5 месяцев назад

      @@hallamphotoOf course Commiefornia is giving land to people that don’t deserve it. I expect nothing less from that shit hole state. What they should actually do is regenerate the forest and eventually make it public land so people will have opportunities to fish, camp, hunt, and enjoy the outdoors.

  • @goldbeachsurfer
    @goldbeachsurfer 5 месяцев назад +4

    Unfortunately animals are getting trapped in the mud and dying.

  • @5thGenNativeTexan
    @5thGenNativeTexan 5 месяцев назад +4

    2/2/23 Lakefront home for sale... $1M 2/2/24 Home half mile from mud and river. $100K

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. I hope the state is prepared for the lawsuits that will justifyably be coming their way.

    • @UltraMagaFan
      @UltraMagaFan 5 месяцев назад

      @@elizabethbogle3533The state isn’t going to give anyone money. Liberals are greedy assholes.

    • @SD_HUNTING_FISHING
      @SD_HUNTING_FISHING 5 месяцев назад

      What can they sue for? Nothing happened to their property

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 5 месяцев назад

      @@SD_HUNTING_FISHING how about lost value. Do you know anything about real estate?

    • @Zyzzyx42
      @Zyzzyx42 5 месяцев назад

      2/2/30 House and land next to natural riparian meadow $1.5M

  • @candicemonsour6294
    @candicemonsour6294 5 месяцев назад +1

    Quick let’s go get all that gold now

  • @isielpacheco3971
    @isielpacheco3971 5 месяцев назад +5

    Will all that silt and sediment be eroded eventually, or will it stay there forever?

    • @helchose
      @helchose 5 месяцев назад

      It will erode very quickly wherever it can. This will all be green with grass and other low groundcover by spring 2025, the first wave of revegetation.

    • @chazman4461
      @chazman4461 5 месяцев назад +2

      It will harden up as it dries out and green up with plants. It happens pretty fast.

  • @peterawalker3
    @peterawalker3 5 месяцев назад +5

    The same process happened at the Elwha dams near Port Angeles, WA, in 2011-2012. About a decade later the vegetation was regrowing and the river was running clear-- and the fish came back. ruclips.net/video/ZO7JsfITQhE/видео.html

    • @brianjohnston4207
      @brianjohnston4207 5 месяцев назад

      Some fish are coming back but Chinook are still struggling. The hatchery on the lower river needs to be broodstocking some of those wild Chinook so the surplus hatchery fish can spawn with the other fish upriver and meet recovery goals.

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад +3

      This area is nothing like the elwha. Its close to a desert, Elwha is in a rain forest.

    • @brianjohnston4207
      @brianjohnston4207 5 месяцев назад

      @gisdp99 and 85% of the traditional Chinook spawning habitat on the Snake River happened between Hells Canyon and Shoshone Falls where migration ended naturally. Hardly a rainforest!

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад

      my point had to with recovery and dispersion of silt. Lots of flushing of the Elwha because of...lots of rainfall. Very different from the upper Klamath.@@brianjohnston4207

    • @billsmith5109
      @billsmith5109 3 месяца назад

      I might recommend
      ruclips.net/video/PAHBr6yPPdU/видео.htmlsi=RnQaUvykxJBL_o67
      One piece that is a little out of date concerns pinks. The 2021 run was finally a little bigger. The 2023 run increased over that. Pinks in the Elwha only run in odd years. The original discussions about pinks were largely incorrect. Dam removal took a couple decades longer than originally thought. In the mean time the remnant pink populations largely collapsed. They now appear to finally be on an upward trajectory. Another pink salmon generation or two should make clear if this is really true.

  • @kamikariad
    @kamikariad 5 месяцев назад +2

    Y'all have some trees to plant.

  • @tinay9491
    @tinay9491 4 месяца назад +1

    time to be a healthy river

  • @shaunl446
    @shaunl446 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for posting this video. I wonder if the river is following it's original route. And that silty mud will take decades for vegetation to take hold.

    • @DaggerMax1
      @DaggerMax1 5 месяцев назад +4

      I doubt it will take decades

    • @shaunl446
      @shaunl446 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@DaggerMax1 copy

    • @shaunl446
      @shaunl446 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@DaggerMax1 I was referring to vegetation beyond just grass and shrubs. Native trees will struggle in this compact nutrient deficient muck. I love you

    • @PDXDrumr
      @PDXDrumr 5 месяцев назад +6

      You'll be surprised how fast it recovers I think.

    • @stuartandrews4344
      @stuartandrews4344 5 месяцев назад +2

      Give it 2 years & you will be surprised by the progress by mother nature.

  • @frederickbooth7970
    @frederickbooth7970 5 месяцев назад +2

    Within a few years the area will be beautiful with greenery all around. Greatly improved from those mostly ugly dams that were there that did not produce that much power.

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 5 месяцев назад

      Hiw will it look with a bunch of houses and other development on it?

  • @wangchung8134
    @wangchung8134 4 месяца назад +1

    do this to the North Fork of the Clearwater and remove Dwarshak Dam!!

  • @EpicATrain
    @EpicATrain 4 месяца назад +2

    All those people who built houses next to a beautiful lake now have a scene of ugly mud and maybe a tiny creek. There went the land value of your house.

  • @americanrambler4972
    @americanrambler4972 5 месяцев назад +3

    This will be pretty ugly for probably 3 to 5 years, but as the new ground cover starts to become reestablished, this is going to return to being a beautiful valley. Question is, is it going to to turn into an area of urban sprawl due to the large amount of flat land now uncovered.

  • @Jack-ne8vm
    @Jack-ne8vm 5 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if all that lake bottom silt will be planted with willows & grass?

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +2

      Yes. It is actively being reseeded right now.

    • @nonewherelistens1906
      @nonewherelistens1906 5 месяцев назад

      @@hallamphoto Answered my question.

  • @tsch38301
    @tsch38301 5 месяцев назад +2

    Damn dams😂

  • @nonewherelistens1906
    @nonewherelistens1906 5 месяцев назад +1

    Be nice if they could spray that basin with a native grass seed to slow any erosion from forthcoming rains.

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +1

      They are.

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад +1

      really? I haven't seen that happening. For some reason they are paying tribe members to stomp around in the mud with sacks of seed hand casting it about. Seems super efficient.
      @@hallamphoto

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад

      @@gisdp99 I've seen that too.

    • @mbsouthpaw8982
      @mbsouthpaw8982 5 месяцев назад

      @@gisdp99 hand seeding is about 2x as efficient as helicopter seeding in terms of germination success. That's why. Helicopters will be used for some hard to access areas, however.

  • @Jdiddy-dt9yj
    @Jdiddy-dt9yj 4 месяца назад +1

    The river won't be any bigger then it is now

  • @Samarno9.0
    @Samarno9.0 4 месяца назад +1

    I heard the resivoirs are already dry and it’s only March. lol claiming a lot about gold, it doesn’t rain for 9 whole months out of the year around here and some years there’s no rain at all. This is a strange idea

    • @Samarno9.0
      @Samarno9.0 4 месяца назад

      Disgusting ploy to enable gold silver copper platinums renditioning ecological science’ void from literature, out of the public’s eyes. There are none, it’s to enable a global monopoly on geopolitical settings that move vast amounts of gold across continents of which have massive die offs, granted the current status of their lands is only marginally better but yet is on the Atlantic and assume the right of Africas shadow, Africa being the birthplace of all life clearly, and has a gold deposit record and life abundance and experience that proves that. So all things considered only a couple countries rule the gdp gaps by 50% or more and approach scales of magnitude with the rest of Europe, basically it’s a vote and lifetime lost to 40 years ago and bizarre to say the least.😮

  • @miketheminer2023
    @miketheminer2023 6 месяцев назад +7

    Its amazing how many people don't realize the water ways have been moved a bazillion times. Man uses it for everything. Needs it. The cobbles under their houses show they live where the river once was. 😂 this in 15 years will be thriving. In 40 years have thousands of homes in thicket woods next to a pristine river. Its beautiful seeing the river carve its way. Finding bedrock. Leaving behind crevases of gold. #livetheadventure #goprospecting #miketheminer #dirtnerd

  • @venturefanatic9262
    @venturefanatic9262 4 месяца назад +1

    Time to go Panning!

  • @oldfarmer9004
    @oldfarmer9004 5 месяцев назад +2

    Um I get the free flowing river. But since the lake front property that I used to own is now at the edge of a nice little prairie type of land, can I claim it to the river bank? I don’t want a bunch of people thinking they’re gonna trot down the driveway and go fishing in a now owned by the city or county park type area.

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +1

      The lake bed will ultimately be returned to tribal ownership.

  • @JTA1961
    @JTA1961 5 месяцев назад +1

    If you be trippin...here's mud in your eye

  • @terryhannon8095
    @terryhannon8095 5 месяцев назад +2

    What are they going to do there? Grow more grapes?

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  5 месяцев назад +3

      The lake beds are being "rewilded."

  • @stevew5212
    @stevew5212 4 месяца назад +1

    who owns the land now that its not under water?

  • @susannovotney1903
    @susannovotney1903 6 месяцев назад +4

    This river will someday be alive again. For now and many years into the future it will be dead from the gross amount of sediment released into it from erosion.

    • @stevet8121
      @stevet8121 5 месяцев назад

      It will be pumping mud for a long time when a big run off comes.

    • @SHC713
      @SHC713 5 месяцев назад +2

      I saw that horrid black water at the 163/96 bridge, all that toxic sediment is going all the way to the sea.

    • @Korina42
      @Korina42 5 месяцев назад +1

      I think you'll be surprised how quickly the river recovers.

    • @chazman4461
      @chazman4461 5 месяцев назад +2

      Floods do the same thing in a very short time period and fish still survive. It will come back a lot faster than anyone thinks. This has been proven on other projects.

  • @RealPhilipLee
    @RealPhilipLee 5 месяцев назад

    Let go

  • @KennyWatson-mu9to
    @KennyWatson-mu9to 5 месяцев назад +6

    There's already been
    Several properties that have lost their wells in Copco Lake
    There's No one stepping up to help these people with cost to redrill there
    Wells. It took Millions
    To tear it down. The least they can do help
    The residents get there water back.
    There won't be Fishing in the Klamath River for decades. This was a big mistake.

    • @tombeno8746
      @tombeno8746 5 месяцев назад

      Keep regurgitating those hydropower lobby talking points. They appreciate your fear.

    • @1eyedjacksRwild
      @1eyedjacksRwild 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@tombeno8746 keep preaching the environmental lobby's talking points Warren Buffet and his investors appreciate all that you do. Also when Oregon and Northern California start burning in the wildfire season and there is no water to fight the fires how will you feel?

    • @tombeno8746
      @tombeno8746 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@1eyedjacksRwild do you spin a wheel or throw a dart at a board to come up with this cr*p? 😄

    • @1eyedjacksRwild
      @1eyedjacksRwild 5 месяцев назад

      @@tombeno8746 no I listen to informed people and use common sense. But if that technique works for you keep at it.

  • @billhawkesworth990
    @billhawkesworth990 5 месяцев назад +7

    How are the fish breathing now in that brown shit water

    • @GullyWasher837
      @GullyWasher837 5 месяцев назад +2

      And how are the salmon and steelhead going to spawn and reproduce in that crap.

    • @matthew3136
      @matthew3136 5 месяцев назад

      @@GullyWasher837 salmon don't spawn in lakes. Keep researching little buddy.

    • @matthew3136
      @matthew3136 5 месяцев назад

      Sorry. I got ahead of myself. Sockeye salmon do spawn in lakes. But they are more likely to spawn in riverbeds. The point of this restoration is to get salmon above the dams in to rivers and streams that they have lost access to over the decades these dams have been built.

  • @kevinsmith4559
    @kevinsmith4559 5 месяцев назад +1

    The concept is good but the implementation without removing the toxic clay sludge has now created an ecological disaster. In addition the water tested is toxic and has been tested and is above EPA levels on many fronts. This is also compromising wells downstream. The clay sludge is cementing the salmon reds and habitat from the source to the ocean, all being documented. This is not speculation. Weekly updates are discussed on the Bob Simms outdoor show.

  • @charlesurrea1451
    @charlesurrea1451 5 месяцев назад +1

    Watch what happens when people start panning out that silt.

  • @donaldpetersen2382
    @donaldpetersen2382 5 месяцев назад +2

    Nice the valley floor can breathe again.

  • @seamoreplant
    @seamoreplant Месяц назад

    Undoing Grandpa’s mistake!

  • @lag9765
    @lag9765 5 месяцев назад +1

    Klamath River, heal our hearts for what we have done to you...

  • @danno3497
    @danno3497 5 месяцев назад +1

    I would expect to see dying green underwater plants? Was that silt contaminated? All I see is remnants of trees, It looks like a barren muddy lifeless place

    • @georgehaydukeiii6396
      @georgehaydukeiii6396 5 месяцев назад

      All Reservoirs look like that when they're drained. Especially in the winter time.

  • @nataliedasilva5342
    @nataliedasilva5342 5 месяцев назад +2

    It was always meant to be a river, not a lake. Now it's free.

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 5 месяцев назад

      😅

    • @user-dj7wv5ok2x
      @user-dj7wv5ok2x 5 месяцев назад +1

      However, the electrical capacity of the area has been greatly reduced, and electric bills will sharply rise.

  • @DavidVanHelden1
    @DavidVanHelden1 5 месяцев назад +2

    What a mess ..

  • @2flight
    @2flight 5 месяцев назад +3

    the lake was almost completely filled with silt

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад

      Not true at all. Perhaps you should look at some photos from before the dams were built- topography is very much the same. Engineer in charge of the reservoir told me their calculations had it at 300 more years before silting would be an issue.

    • @2flight
      @2flight 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@gisdp99 Go there and walk to the new shore.

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад

      I have. My family has had property on the lake and the river for close to 50 years.
      @@2flight

    • @toryhicks5147
      @toryhicks5147 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@gisdp99 if you want lake front property move to MN or WI. no need to look like a fool defending these ecological disasters

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 5 месяцев назад

      ​​@@toryhicks5147easy for you to say, it's not your money that just got flushed downriver.

  • @martingarcia6677
    @martingarcia6677 5 месяцев назад +4

    Those dams were horrible for the environment and native people.

    • @user-dj7wv5ok2x
      @user-dj7wv5ok2x 5 месяцев назад

      And the fossil fueled power plants that must take up the slack left by the absence of the hydroelectric installations will wreck the environment even MORE.

    • @1eyedjacksRwild
      @1eyedjacksRwild 5 месяцев назад +1

      They were great for farmers and those who eat food. They also were great when water was needed to fight wildfires.

  • @aleu650
    @aleu650 5 месяцев назад +6

    I am surprised that they are demolishing dams in the midst of droughts, lack of energy and population growth (they are embarking immigrants as in 1800). Do they have any plans to replace the water and energy they stopped storing when the river was released? I understand that the dike was soaked with silt and required maintenance and cleaning... but tear it down? Won't they need it later?

    • @gisdp99
      @gisdp99 5 месяцев назад

      Newsom is fast tracking the Sites dam in the Sac valley, and coming up here to talk about how dams are terrible ect.... Just follow the money. Once this generation has passed and a new group of special interests and politicians are in place they will be celebrating the ground breaking of a new dam in this very spot- a proper modern dam that balances human needs as well as the salmon. These dams powered around 70,000 homes. There is a 3100 acre solar farm being proposed in Kansas that would supply 70,000 homes. If they replace this with Nuclear then maybe that is a good trade, solar or wind? Nope. We need a diverse mix of power generation. It will be interesting to see if they use the remaining dams upstream to regulate flows to help support salmon when the river dries up during drought years. For sure the farmers up in the upper klamath basin are going to get their water taken. Shorting the Upper Klamath (Klamath Falls) Economy would be a smart play.

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 5 месяцев назад +2

      They never think ahead. 50 years from now they'll probably be talking about building another dam.

    • @tombeno8746
      @tombeno8746 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@elizabethbogle3533 Repeat some more FUD you heard from the hydropower lobby.

    • @1eyedjacksRwild
      @1eyedjacksRwild 5 месяцев назад

      @@tombeno8746 aren't you just repeating some propaganda that you heard from some environmental lobby? In truth the group behind this removal project has figured out a cheap way to remove dams ignoring environmental hazards so that they can rake in enormous profits. This is not about what is good for the environment it is what is good for making the super wealthy even more money.

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 5 месяцев назад

      @@tombeno8746 take your meds and go to bed, tough guy.

  • @aliikane
    @aliikane Месяц назад

    Horrible they removed such a beautiful lake. Copco lake supported so much wildlife and the population in the area for residents, farming, tourists, etc. Why aren't the environmentalists in an uproar about all the countless species of fish (salmon, trout, bass, crappie, bluegill, carp, etc) and countless wildlife that died or was negatively affected in the process of removing Copco lake?
    I highly doubt that removing four dams will boost the salmon populations that much and they are spending 800 million to do it.

  • @readGLKay
    @readGLKay 5 месяцев назад +2

    Needs beavers.

  • @Iceboomguy
    @Iceboomguy 5 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if they made much effort to save the fish

    • @Korina42
      @Korina42 5 месяцев назад

      That's why they're doing this in winter; there aren't that many fish in the river right now, so it minimizes the damage, and all this rain will help clean out the silt that much faster. You know how it is with cleaning up messes; it gets worse before it gets better.

    • @matthew3136
      @matthew3136 5 месяцев назад

      The fish in the lake? No. those are still in other lakes for you to fish.

  • @ralphaverill2001
    @ralphaverill2001 6 месяцев назад +14

    Why the sad music? The Klamath River runs free again. Al that silt will soon be grassy meadow as the forest creeps back to the river's edge.With a little help, the salmon will return as well. Rejoice1 What was once "impounded" is now freee and natural.

    • @hallamphoto
      @hallamphoto  6 месяцев назад +1

      Finding music for these quick films that pleases everyone is the hardest part of production.

    • @mitchellmaytorena1137
      @mitchellmaytorena1137 5 месяцев назад +2

      Beautiful work!

    • @johnkilty1419
      @johnkilty1419 5 месяцев назад +4

      Music worked for me. Thanks.@@hallamphoto

    • @potblack6043
      @potblack6043 5 месяцев назад +4

      I didn't think it sounded sad

    • @Korina42
      @Korina42 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@hallamphoto There's always Beethoven's Ode to Joy. :D

  • @matthew3136
    @matthew3136 5 месяцев назад +1

    So much fertilizer and toxins in that mud. It's going to be gorgeous in a few years though.

  • @AOCisHome
    @AOCisHome 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hey, it's Carson here. Who's going to pay to repair the old water bank erosion? also, the deeds say your property line is at the high water mark, does that mean your property extends to the river? Interesting to see. one last thing, are the tribes going to take control of the lake lands and are there plans to build? I see grasses are being planted, What is going to be done about fire mitigation?

  • @brentpage1402
    @brentpage1402 2 месяца назад

    I first stayed a week at Lake Copco in 1963 at age 5. Great job screwing so many over for a fish….Anyone wants to be ignorant let them be ignorant

  • @Tedroy
    @Tedroy 5 месяцев назад +2

    Get some wolves up in there. It's gonna be beautiful.

  • @Jdiddy-dt9yj
    @Jdiddy-dt9yj 4 месяца назад +1

    People who are for this either dont live in the area or just completely stupid...or both

  • @russcrawford3310
    @russcrawford3310 5 месяцев назад +1

    Looks like great pasture ... we need more cattle ... as long as we sift the ocean for salmon, none will return up-river ...

    • @user-dj7wv5ok2x
      @user-dj7wv5ok2x 5 месяцев назад

      "WE NEED MORE CATTLE"?! Nope; cattle are responsible for al those uncontrolled methane gas releases ALREADY, and you want to add MORE?!