Thank you for sharing this video! Although I am happy to work with the ACR HDR feature and follow all your recommendations, I cannot convert the file from 32 to 16/8 bit without losing all the jobs I made. I mean it works until the preview during the conversion. When I click OK, the result is a disaster. Could you help?
I've gone through your process several times and am very optimistic about the results. When converting to 16 or 8 bit, the image becomes so gaudy. So, taking it from gaudy to perfect is the challenging part for me. I would like to see more information regarding the tone mapping process.
Great video! Im just starting to learn the PS tools for HDR. If im editing fairly standard single exposure images, should I be saving all my final edits as JPGXL to future proof? Or would a single exposure fit nicely in the 8bit SDR range? Is it worth the hassle?
I get this amazing looking image by going the HDR route, but I dont know what am I doing wrong when I want to swing it from Photoshop back to Camera Raw after going Image - Mode - 16 Bit, I get this very bland mushy image in Camera Raw. HDR mode is gone. Can someone advise what the problem might be here?
Quite honestly and candidly... Photoshop has changed so much in the last year and I would be 100% lost without your knowledge and education. This video... brilliant and so easy to understand.
Previews are not in the menu and when I search for preferences, Color Management for HDR Display is not in the checkboxes. ...Latest update for Photoshop installed today, March 29.
As always, I learn a lot from your videos. I have the latest update for Photoshop. I followed your directions. Preferences>technology preferences> Not listed, precise color management for HDR display. I have windows 10 Maybe you get versions some others do not get.
@@photoshopcafe Hi Colin. Is that 'HDR Output' Tech Preview option only in the latest update to Ps? I don't see it listed in my rel. of Tech Previews. I didn't update to the latest vers. of Ps b/c after just intro'ing it, Adobe didn't include the new 'Del. & Fill' (I think that's the name) feature. So I didn't plan to update until they re-included it... Is it back again (rel. # ?)? Thx
@@MisterDavidH Since the latest PS update there is no more setting for HDR in the Tech Preview. You could only enable HDR in the Camera Raw 15.1.1 (latest) Tech Preview menu. BTW, HDR is visible only in the Camera Raw window, not in the PS in case of the 2-monitor setup (one SDR capable and another HDR capable). This is on Windows 11.
Fantastic, informative video. Long time user of PS and ACR and I knew nothing about these features. I had no success getting the HDR button via Photoshop, as there was no option in Preferences, but I did via Adobe Camera Raw under Settings, then restarting. Thank you so much!
Thank you for your wonderful videos. I am a long user of HDR. I never liked the PS version of HDR. I always used Photomatix however you got me very exited with the technical description of HDR. I currently have the latest version of the Mac operating system and the latest version of PS on my Mac Studio Computer with the XDR Apple display. I could NOT open the HDR button you described and just like another of your followers I did not find within the settings of PS under :TECHNOLOGY PREVIEWS your choice. The only HDR issue there is: Precise Color management for HDR display What am I missing? Delighted with your videos Thank You J A Fridman MD Miami Florida
Can someone please explain, as per steps in this vid, why when I open HDR image after converting it from 32 to 16 in Ps which opens it back in Camera Raw, image does not open as HDR? HDR button top right under histogram is also grayed out.
Wow, I really love that you can now control all aspects of HDR instead of relying on 3rd party software that is terribly inadequate with often, gaudy results. This is fairly complex, but will be well worth the effort for special photos and situations.
3:54 I had HDR on, but image looked different than in Lightroom, I enabled SDR but it seemed to make it look right. I clicked ok. But nothing happens. Also Camera raw did not read the settings, so I had to match them to Lightroom. Saving it doesn't work, Sky is still blown out. Seems like there might be a bug in the latest version of Photoshop. But a workaround is to open the folder and open the JPG in Photoshop instead.
Just lately I have noticed that my images edited in camera raw are the best part of a stop darker when I return to photoshop. Not sure how this is possible? Any ideas?
I’m working with a single B&W negative in RAW. I click on HDR which does wonders for this particular image. However… when I select open in Photoshop to view and save or export, the image is not the same as when I had it opened in RAW. The HDR effects are gone. ??
Can’t complete the final render to say, a jpeg. The adjustments are visible in RAW but disappear once I open in PS. Normally, once you make changes to an image in RAW, then you click Done or Open, those changes will be seen in PS - then you save or save a copy or export to whatever final file type you want - tiff or png or jpeg or whatever. I’ll have to make a clip to better illustrate the issue.
Yes, because it lets us output HDR in a shareable format. The legacy HDR toning in PS is the same. I’m Just demonstrating some options, the new stuff is in Camera Raw. My written steps simplify it a bit.
I am curious...Why not make this RUclips Video in HDR so that those of us with a Mac XDR display could view the tutorial in HDR???? I tried it with both Chrome and Safari and the video is in HD SDR????
@@photoshopcafe Sorry Colin but that link specifically says the feature isn't available on Windows yet: "Currently, Photoshop does not support HDR displays on Windows." The ACR component works fine though. It'll arrive in time :)
Colin, apparently the new System Settings interface in the Ventura OS does not have an HDR setting. The choices in the Display pane are not the same as System Preferences>Displays in previous versions of MacOS.
Wait, so can we actually view HDR data in photoshop on an HDR capable monitor or not? From what you showed there are just a few more tools to work with32bit data, but we still can't actually view it during work?
My Photoshop is up to date according to Adobe but I cannot do the HDR. Is there different versions for different parts of the wall, The version is 2023. What gives.
I sorta got lost in this one. Seems like it is only for people using Bridge/ACR and also have an HDR capable monitor? That's like .01% of the people I know. Let's move forward and use LR Classic like adults.
Current iPhones, Pixels, iPads and Macbook pros are capable of XDR and HDR already and it's coming to Lightroom. That .01% will be 99% in a few short years.
I watched this clip a couple of times. I gave it a try and I do have a BenQ 2k screen but this simply did not work for me. I tried it with 5 exposures and the result was awful. Think I'll stick with light room way!
@@photoshopcafe I didn't get the tone map panal as seen in your clip and after merging the the images and it opening in photoshop I had terrible colour pixels in shadows and highlights in windows blown out...i don't have this issue going through lightroom?
Thanks Colin, but I found this rather complex and confusing. When I do HDR I normally use Lightroom, a relatively simple process and I get good results. I'm not sure all this complexity would add much value for me, but I'm not a fussy pedantic professional!
This is more of a rundown of advanced new features that a tutorial. You don't have to use them, but if you want people to be able to see your photos in HDR on HDR enabled devices(ipads, phones and certain monitors) and displays, it's now possible. This is the early days of what will be a standard one day.
I didn't know that when I made this video, but its pretty well known now if you look at the comments :) But by the time I tell everyone, it will be on Windows.
I can convert any picture in LR to HDR easily using one picture. I first assume your original picture is not too under/over exposed. Make multiple copies and modify the exposure so the worse under and over and under exposed areas look nice. Select all those photos and then make HDR.
@@photoshopcafe Maybe it is not “true HDR” but it creates a beautiful picture. Try it. Take a picture inside a reduced light room with a window where the outside is well lite. I have shown this in my camera club and mentioned it on several RUclips responses and this is the first negative comment I have received. So far everyone else appears to like it. If you have a high contrast picture this can really improve the picture easily.
HDR is AI based. No magic. 3,5 or more pictures with similar bracketing can be made into a “HDR” photo. AI will attempt to take the best of each photo and combine with the others (very simply explained). Our cameras will take multiple picts. Beside exposure, ISO and other settings may differ.
@@teetimeaz Not negative. What you describe is photo fusion, I've done it for years. My tutorial here is about outputting actual high dynamic range images that take advantage of HDR and XDR displays, different topic.
HDR output isn't in LR yet. There is nothing changed in thr way you are creating HDRs, this is about outputting them as actual HDR. My written steps (linked in top of comments) makes this more clear.
Hahah, not 99% of the people will ever own a HDR monitor unless under the 3-digits and this change will occur at soonst in 10 years. Many clients are still looking at regularly bureau desktop screen and think that what they see is correct. Hahaha And then they phone you to say that your picture is too dark...!
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Written breakdown here: photoshopcafe.com/new-hdr-features-in-photoshop-2023/
Whew! I’m going to have to sit through this a few more times to fully digest these manipulations.
Thank you for sharing this video! Although I am happy to work with the ACR HDR feature and follow all your recommendations, I cannot convert the file from 32 to 16/8 bit without losing all the jobs I made. I mean it works until the preview during the conversion. When I click OK, the result is a disaster. Could you help?
I've gone through your process several times and am very optimistic about the results. When converting to 16 or 8 bit, the image becomes so gaudy. So, taking it from gaudy to perfect is the challenging part for me. I would like to see more information regarding the tone mapping process.
The one video I was searching for all over the internet. Thanks for this upload. Appreciate a lot!
Like and follow. Amazing technique and explanation. Thanks
This was literally the biggest help ever, thank you so much!
Great video! Im just starting to learn the PS tools for HDR. If im editing fairly standard single exposure images, should I be saving all my final edits as JPGXL to future proof? Or would a single exposure fit nicely in the 8bit SDR range? Is it worth the hassle?
I've never played with the HDR to any extent like this - The video opens up a lot of additional tricks that I can see VERY useful!!! Many thanks!!!!
I get this amazing looking image by going the HDR route, but I dont know what am I doing wrong when I want to swing it from Photoshop back to Camera Raw after going Image - Mode - 16 Bit, I get this very bland mushy image in Camera Raw. HDR mode is gone. Can someone advise what the problem might be here?
Same problem for me
Many great thanks Bud, you are the best as always ...love you...
Thanks
Quite honestly and candidly... Photoshop has changed so much in the last year and I would be 100% lost without your knowledge and education. This video... brilliant and so easy to understand.
Previews are not in the menu and when I search for preferences, Color Management for HDR Display is not in the checkboxes. ...Latest update for Photoshop installed today, March 29.
As always, I learn a lot from your videos. I have the latest update for Photoshop. I followed your directions. Preferences>technology preferences> Not listed, precise color management for HDR display.
I have windows 10 Maybe you get versions some others do not get.
You have to first enable HDR Support in your system settings helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/hdr-output.html
@@photoshopcafe Hi Colin. Is that 'HDR Output' Tech Preview option only in the latest update to Ps? I don't see it listed in my rel. of Tech Previews. I didn't update to the latest vers. of Ps b/c after just intro'ing it, Adobe didn't include the new 'Del. & Fill' (I think that's the name) feature. So I didn't plan to update until they re-included it... Is it back again (rel. # ?)? Thx
@@photoshopcafe Enabled HDR in Raw before, still nothing. I deleted PS and installed again Going to call Adobe.
@@MisterDavidH Since the latest PS update there is no more setting for HDR in the Tech Preview. You could only enable HDR in the Camera Raw 15.1.1 (latest) Tech Preview menu. BTW, HDR is visible only in the Camera Raw window, not in the PS in case of the 2-monitor setup (one SDR capable and another HDR capable). This is on Windows 11.
@@evaldas67 Does that mean there's no more HDR option in the Ps Automate menu, down at the bottom near Photomerge?
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Wow I had no idea...very informative.
This has opened my eyes to HDR. I have merged photos in the past but not like this and the outcome is short of stunning.
Brilliant thank you
Good video thanks
Fantastic, informative video. Long time user of PS and ACR and I knew nothing about these features. I had no success getting the HDR button via Photoshop, as there was no option in Preferences, but I did via Adobe Camera Raw under Settings, then restarting. Thank you so much!
Seems like its not in Windows yet. If you are on Win, bookmark this tut and come back to it soon when Adobe puts it on Windows
Thank you for another easy-to-understand amazing video. It's been a while since I shot HDR, will shoot HDR soon so I can apply this method.
Perfektní práce PS-HDR 👍
Thank you for your wonderful videos. I am a long user of HDR. I never liked the PS version of HDR. I always used Photomatix however you got me very exited with the technical description of HDR. I currently have the latest version of the Mac operating system and the latest version of PS on my Mac Studio Computer with the XDR Apple display. I could NOT open the HDR button you described and just like another of your followers I did not find within the settings of PS under :TECHNOLOGY PREVIEWS your choice. The only HDR issue there is:
Precise Color management for HDR display
What am I missing?
Delighted with your videos
Thank You
J A Fridman MD
Miami Florida
It's under tech previews in Camera Raw preferences, not in Photoshop prefs.
Pretty convoluted, I'll stick to LR HDR...
These new features are coming to Lightroom soon.These advanced features extend the capabilities of LR and ACR HDR, which is the same.
Thanks
Could you show how this process would work with sunrise or sunset images?
Exactly the same way
Can someone please explain, as per steps in this vid, why when I open HDR image after converting it from 32 to 16 in Ps which opens it back in Camera Raw, image does not open as HDR? HDR button top right under histogram is also grayed out.
This was great but hasn't changed my workflow of tone mapping 32 bit to 16 bit where I then work further on my images
I’m running Mac OS Ventura, don’t see the HDR setting under display for either my BenQ or my Wacom Cintiq. Any ideas?
Its possible your display and GPU aren't supported? See the Adobe tech notes here: helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/hdr-output.html
Wow, I really love that you can now control all aspects of HDR instead of relying on 3rd party software that is terribly inadequate with often, gaudy results. This is fairly complex, but will be well worth the effort for special photos and situations.
You don't have to do all these steps on any image, Im showing different possibilities.
The word Photoshop next to File does not show up and I have updated my program. How do I get the word Photoshop to show?
3:54 I had HDR on, but image looked different than in Lightroom, I enabled SDR but it seemed to make it look right. I clicked ok. But nothing happens. Also Camera raw did not read the settings, so I had to match them to Lightroom. Saving it doesn't work, Sky is still blown out. Seems like there might be a bug in the latest version of Photoshop. But a workaround is to open the folder and open the JPG in Photoshop instead.
Just lately I have noticed that my images edited in camera raw are the best part of a stop darker when I return to photoshop. Not sure how this is possible? Any ideas?
I can't find Precise color managment for HDR in my Preferences options :(
I don't have HDR on my MacBook Pro. I can't find it under my display tab.
I’m working with a single B&W negative in RAW. I click on HDR which does wonders for this particular image. However… when I select open in Photoshop to view and save or export, the image is not the same as when I had it opened in RAW. The HDR effects are gone. ??
you have to open them in Camera RAW or Lightroom
Can’t complete the final render to say, a jpeg. The adjustments are visible in RAW but disappear once I open in PS. Normally, once you make changes to an image in RAW, then you click Done or Open, those changes will be seen in PS - then you save or save a copy or export to whatever final file type you want - tiff or png or jpeg or whatever. I’ll have to make a clip to better illustrate the issue.
Good opportunity for photo sharing apps to allow HDR images. Would look great on our phones.
Im sure its coming, HDR display of photos will be standard one day.
Does the monitor have to support HDR as well
In order to properly see the results, yes. But if you use SDR preview, you can still work and approximate the results for HDR
Is this different from the merge to HDR Pro in Photoshop Automate?
Yes, because it lets us output HDR in a shareable format. The legacy HDR toning in PS is the same. I’m
Just demonstrating some options, the new stuff is in Camera Raw. My written steps simplify it a bit.
I am curious...Why not make this RUclips Video in HDR so that those of us with a Mac XDR display could view the tutorial in HDR???? I tried it with both Chrome and Safari and the video is in HD SDR????
Not available yet on an up-to-date Win11 PC. Excited by the prospect as I'm using an LG C2 42 monitor. Thanks for the guide!
You have to first enable HDR Support in your system settings helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/hdr-output.html
@@photoshopcafe Sorry Colin but that link specifically says the feature isn't available on Windows yet: "Currently, Photoshop does not support HDR displays on Windows."
The ACR component works fine though. It'll arrive in time :)
@@shock_me Oh, thanks for pointing that out, I didn't see that. Obviously a mac user here lol
Colin, apparently the new System Settings interface in the Ventura OS does not have an HDR setting. The choices in the Display pane are not the same as System Preferences>Displays in previous versions of MacOS.
I'm having the same issue in Ventura OS.
Ventura OS doesn't seem to have an option to enable HDR. All other changes present and correct.
I'm still on Big Sur, so I can't respond to this, sorry
@@photoshopcafe Thank you. If/when you go to Ventura I'd be interested to know how please.
Hi, When I go to Preferences/Tech Previews, I do not see the HDR option. what can I do to fix this? thank you
Make sure you are updated to the latest version of Photoshop
@@photoshopcafe It's up to date :) and I still cannot see this option :(
Can you open the images in Lightroom?
Yes, but not the new HDR formats yet
Is this in Lightroom? The old HDR is there. Not sure if this new iteration exists in LR.
Not yet. It’s coming though
Thank you, GREAT! This tutorial is one of the most interesting photographic videos, posted on RUclips, within the last half year!
Wait, so can we actually view HDR data in photoshop on an HDR capable monitor or not? From what you showed there are just a few more tools to work with32bit data, but we still can't actually view it during work?
Yes, you can
My Photoshop is up to date according to Adobe but I cannot do the HDR. Is there different versions for different parts of the wall, The version is 2023. What gives.
Your hardware may not support it yet helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/hdr-output.html
@@photoshopcafe If that is the case surely the previous HDR should work as it always did.
not available for mere mortals as of current (24.1.0 ) release
If on windows, see some of my other replies
I sorta got lost in this one. Seems like it is only for people using Bridge/ACR and also have an HDR capable monitor? That's like .01% of the people I know. Let's move forward and use LR Classic like adults.
Current iPhones, Pixels, iPads and Macbook pros are capable of XDR and HDR already and it's coming to Lightroom. That .01% will be 99% in a few short years.
I watched this clip a couple of times.
I gave it a try and I do have a BenQ 2k screen but this simply did not work for me. I tried it with 5 exposures and the result was awful.
Think I'll stick with light room way!
This tutorial has for outputting HDRs. You will still create them the same way in ACR as Lightroom. This feature is coming in LR
@@photoshopcafe I didn't get the tone map panal as seen in your clip and after merging the the images and it opening in photoshop I had terrible colour pixels in shadows and highlights in windows blown out...i don't have this issue going through lightroom?
Thanks Colin, but I found this rather complex and confusing. When I do HDR I normally use Lightroom, a relatively simple process and I get good results. I'm not sure all this complexity would add much value for me, but I'm not a fussy pedantic professional!
This is more of a rundown of advanced new features that a tutorial. You don't have to use them, but if you want people to be able to see your photos in HDR on HDR enabled devices(ipads, phones and certain monitors) and displays, it's now possible. This is the early days of what will be a standard one day.
You should make clear in the description and in the emails you send that this is for Mac only
I didn't know that when I made this video, but its pretty well known now if you look at the comments :) But by the time I tell everyone, it will be on Windows.
In windows Gateway aero 17 I don't have the setting in Photoshop s tech previews anyone with the same issue? The HDR display is a mess 🫣
not on Windows yet
I can convert any picture in LR to HDR easily using one picture. I first assume your original picture is not too under/over exposed. Make multiple copies and modify the exposure so the worse under and over and under exposed areas look nice. Select all those photos and then make HDR.
Technically, you can do that, but If you want true HDR you need to shoot bracketed photos to capture an extended dynamic range
@@photoshopcafe Maybe it is not “true HDR” but it creates a beautiful picture. Try it. Take a picture inside a reduced light room with a window where the outside is well lite. I have shown this in my camera club and mentioned it on several RUclips responses and this is the first negative comment I have received. So far everyone else appears to like it. If you have a high contrast picture this can really improve the picture easily.
HDR is AI based. No magic. 3,5 or more pictures with similar bracketing can be made into a “HDR” photo. AI will attempt to take the best of each photo and combine with the others (very simply explained). Our cameras will take multiple picts. Beside exposure, ISO and other settings may differ.
@@teetimeaz Not negative. What you describe is photo fusion, I've done it for years. My tutorial here is about outputting actual high dynamic range images that take advantage of HDR and XDR displays, different topic.
Why not do this in LR, where it's much easier?
HDR output isn't in LR yet. There is nothing changed in thr way you are creating HDRs, this is about outputting them as actual HDR. My written steps (linked in top of comments) makes this more clear.
Only available for Mac. Sadly, not for pc.
It will be on PC soon enough
An example of fail to understand the new HDR output of Camera Raw feature. Stop misleading the beginner
Hahah, not 99% of the people will ever own a HDR monitor unless under the 3-digits and this change will occur at soonst in 10 years. Many clients are still looking at regularly bureau desktop screen and think that what they see is correct. Hahaha
And then they phone you to say that your picture is too dark...!
This man should maybe read some of his 69323 emails...
lol, thats why I tell people to hit me up on my support desk and not email me :)
For those looking for the technology preview I believe this is only available right now on the MAC version.
It will be coming soon