Horobi is a lot of fun, but Horobi is a beast, a bitch, and a bastard to protect on the board... He's a great budget build, though, and a he'll of a shock in the 99...
@@andrewamann2821 Nah, it's like what other people said, you use Horobi as a boardwipe in the command zone basically. I have him as a deck and that's usually how I use him, though I also Hex parasite and Cauldron of Souls, which I'm surprised Mitch didn't mention, which work absurdly well with Horobi
Painter's Servant into Llawan, Cephalid Empress bounces all your opponents creatures and then locks them out of creatures until they deal with either piece.
@@paulduncan9239 I built a sweet Llawan colorhack deck on MTGO... like every colorhack card either doesn't work on MTGO or totally crashes the table =(
You should do a RUclips Poll with old underrated Legends and do a deck tech on the winning one! I think that’d be really cool. (Also, I have a really cool Hazduhr, The Abbot EDH deck that I would like to share with you if you’re interested)
For me I'm like its a good commander with that mindset, but put it into a red black and just use the mass ping spells like electrical trickery. Board wipe for 2 mana.
I like to morph a gift of doom onto him (doesn't target if you morph it.), or reanimate him with fated return... Both can be awesome for other stuff than horobi, too.
@@1998wiwi You might even want sac outlets to make SURE it's dead afterwards so your own creatures don't die to it. Also nightmare shepherd finally offers protection that actually works with Horobi.
Thank you so much for mentioning Tiana. I was really disappointed when the command zone took 1 look at it and instantly wore it off as another Boros commander. My deck is based around the principle of “don’t attack me” I have lots of auras that disuade attacks against me and lots of auras that are useful to recur. It’s not my best deck, but it can hang with more powerful decks, the consistent recursion is extremely useful when you get hit with 5 board wipes per game.
I agree! Tiana is a great commander and I love using her. Totem armor, enchantress style card draw, gift of immortality, the white and red ordeals, and pacifism style enchantments just make it a control powerhouse with so much value! Truly a sleeper commander, I just wish she was a little cheaper to cast. :)
One of my favorite underrated commanders is Kuon, Ogre Ascendant. He's a cheap commander that can be built in a multitude of ways, you can build an interesting control deck or a reanimator deck focused on keep creatures on the board while the opponents struggle.
Runetail is actually quite interesting. Provided you can protect your stuff from spot removal, that protector of the crown, I believe it was, can stall out a game in a way that card advantage becomes less of an advantage. After pulling that soft lock off, having a Felidar Sovereign, Test of Endurance, or Approach of the Second Sun could come in real handy.
I found a way to go infinite with Teshar, use cards like kor skyfisher ( ETB is to return a permanent you control to hand) and any free sac and a 0 drop artifact. sac the fisher to free sac outlet play 0 drops, gets back skyfisher, return 0 drop to hand repeat
@@dus65 my deck is more focused on tokens and little utility creatures, swinging wide with True Conviction or going tall with Angelic Exaltation, Blackblade Reforged or Sublime Archangel, but yeah, artifact combos are far more efficient
A hugely underrated theft commander is Merieke Ri Berit, with under 400 decks on EDHrec. Her sneaky trick is that if she leaves the battlefield - she doesn't even have to die - or untaps, you destroy the creatures she stole. So with something like Pemmin's Aura or blink effects, for a few blue mana you can repeatedly wipe the board except for a single creature, which you then just control. And if you give them indestructible with something like Avacyn, you don't even lose the creatures as you do this.
She is so good, everyone has to play their commander at some point. Combine her with other thieving cards like perplexing chimera and narset's reversal and it's a very strong deck
The Gitrog Monster is my personal favorite commander deck right now. Get a Crucible of Worlds or Ramunap Excavator into play and just abuse landfall triggers for the win.
These are my favorite episodes. I really enjoy new strategies with commanders that fly under the radar. Definitely checking out a Tiana deck. Thanks Mitch!
Yesterday I decided I was gonna to make a horobi deck as my first commander deck! I hope the cards don't get too much more expensive 😬 some other good cards for it are bloodthirsty blade and cauldron of souls
It's really cool to see this video now after the new commander ruling that going to the command zone counts as a death trigger. Your deck tech about Keiga works even better knowing that at the very least you can still get keiga to go to the command zone and still get its effects. Great video! Thinking about making two or three of those into commander decks.
YES!! I’ve been wanting to build a llawan deck for forever but didn’t really know what angle to take it. This gives me a good idea on how to start with it and I think I’m gonna FINALLY build one now! Loving these videos!
Neheb the worthy. Discard/reanimate is highly underrated. It gets laughed at until I have an eldrazi on the table and people’s hands are gone then I get hated out but it’s awesome
When I introduced a friend to EDH, Tiana Ship's Caretaker was the commander she had. It was GREAT for beginners. Effective, easy to understand it's effectiveness, easy to hunt down staples to fill up her deck.
My brother gifted me an Horobi deck last christmas and I absolutely fell in love with it. If you get the target engine going and a Grave Betrayal in play you're in a solid position. Also Eldrazi Monument and Grave Pact type effects are great in it!
One of the players at my LGS played a Teshar combo deck against me and after losing turn 5, I had to build a copy of the deck. It is one of my favorite decks to play, especially against new players (I teach about 3 people a year how to play EDH, and always refer them to this channel when they say they want to build their first deck). Examples from my version: (Lotus Petal + Salvager of Ruin + Teshar = infinite mana, etbs, cast, and death triggers) (Ornithopter + Myr Retriever + Altar of Dementia + Teshar = infinite mill, etbs, cast, and death triggers)
Nice, runetail was actually one of my first commanders, back when i was new to the format, and that was before we got as much white catchup/draw support in mono white.
Teshar + Mangara + Blasting Station + other historic spells = exiling all your opponents stuff (well, once per turn) whilst pinging them. I also have a Ranger-Captain of Eos in my Teshar deck and it is just absurd. Thanks Mitch for giving Teshar the kudos it deserves!
I actually used to have a Horobi deck. Another card to use in the deck is Baton of Morale. Not as efficient as some options but the effect is useful when Horobi isn't in play to really mess with combat math. It's also incredibly useful to allow tokens or other small creatures to block creatures with trample and soak up all the damage.
My favorite underrated commander is Patron of the Moon. It's ramp in monoblue, plus you can pull off an infinite combo with Amulet of Vigor and Storm Cauldron.
You should really start a weekly or bi-weekly tribal deck video series. I know you would come up with some great synergies! Plus tribal chairs had me rolling in laughter. I legitimately almost went and bought the deck online just to make my friends laugh.
i stumbled onto Sachi a little while ago and i knew i had to build a deck around her because there are so many green mana sinks in EDH so i'm glad you brought a little more attention to her. Also fun, random fact: Woodfall Primus is a shaman. As if that card didn't do enough for you.
Oh, Tiana. My favorite underrated commander, next to Hallar. Doing a Voltron or just an enchantment/equipment deck with her is pretty fun to do, but control is pretty unique for her. Maybe I'll give it a try once the card shops open up again...
Hi! I been watching the channel for about 5 months now and enjoy it. I've built a couple Commander on a Budget decks and still building more of them. I was thinking that maybe with all the useful tips given if a critique of decks other people built themselves could be done to see how their deck building skills stands. Competitive-Jank and where improvements can be made maybe. Just an ideal for Spare Change if you like it. I have 5 Commander decks that I built myself I would to see where they fit in power wise and where I fit in with my deck building skills. Love the channel. Keep putting out top quality content.
I recently built a Tiana aura defence deck, and it's really fun! One of my favourite cards in the deck is spirit link, especially when you slap it on your opponent's big scary beater. Whenever that creature deals damage, you gain that much life! Notably, it's not been updated to say lifelink instead, meaning you can slap it on your opponent's biggest, scariest thing, gain life whenever it deals damage, and if they want to stop it they have to sacrifice it or destroy the aura, and you just get it back with Tiana! Laccolith rig is another really fun card in the deck - "Whenever enchanted creature becomes blocked, you may have it deal damage equal to its power to target creature. If you do, the first creature assigns no combat damage this turn." You can slap it on an opponent's creature, block it if it swings at you, and blow up something else scary! It's a really fun politically orientated deck, where you use enchantments on your opponent's creatures you help have them do things for you! Also, if you're looking for a way to win with Tiana, All That Glitters and Etheral Armor can turn her into an absolute powerhouse out of no-where, especially if you've had your opponent's deal with each other!
Kataki eggs is one of my favorite decks to play hoses opponents and let's you go off on artifact graveyard shenanigans. Also have a mycsynth lattice lock and the decks been fun
I have a Friend that Runs Horobi... She loves running gimmick decks. And I run a Mill/Steal/Copy Lazav Dimir Mastermind deck, I love making an Evil Twin of someone's commander, Its one of my favorite decks.
i think it has some kind of really cool flavor to it, that the color, which revolves around artifacts the least in comparison to the other colors, but needs them most to function as good as the other colors..
Had a hilarious game where I was playing Keiga against someone's Horobi deck. Was really fun, though I did have to work hard to keep Horobi off the board so that I wasn't just playing 3-5 mana, sorcery speed killspells, instead of stealing stuff lol
A fun combo I thought of today for Tiana is Bludgeon Brawl, letting you recast capsules and baubles as well. Good video, but I have to say this. Kurkesh was sorely missed. Give my ogre spirit some love in the future.
Garna is a huge amount of fun. Don't write off the haste clause either, but not for massive attacks. Once you have the mana from your Priests and Cathodion sacc'd to Altars you can cast mana dorks like Basal Thrull and Generator Servant, drop Garna, and before you sac her and her ETB goes off, tap all the dorks (now they are hasty) to float the mana, and then sac them as well. Throw in the usual reducers (like the monuments and medallions) and you can create infinite (or at least near infinite) spins of your creatures. Now kill everyone - before Syr K I used Impact Tremors, Outpost Siege, Judith, Bontu's Monument etc. Syr K makes this even more vicious. Aetherfluxing the table is also a very real possibility and just for giggles, Haze of Rage where the storm count is ludicrous. After all, all your creatures have haste. Have fun murdering the table with a bunch of overclocked mana Myrs. The only minor problem is that your turns can be a little like solitaire - though, hey it is the Rakdos player's turn for once, suck it blue mage, with your extra turn spells.
I play Garna as a storm commander. I play tons of lowcost/0 cmc creatures, sac them for value and mana and loop this through Garna's ability with aetherflux on the field or storm cards/gravestorm card in my hand. This either nukes my opponents or I can generate infinte mana fairly early for Exsanguinate/Torment of Hailfire.
I thought your channel had become more generic these past weeks with these discussion videos about cards most players know, but this video makes up for it with great content that's actually focused to your channel's theme! I really appreciated hearing about all these cool commanders we rarely see and might actually consider one or two.
For the Rune-Tail Pariah would be great obviously, but I was thinkng also to Eight Tails and a Half, wich not only protects your buddies from the few spot removals still working, but there's goddamn flavour in sliding it in the 99
Hell yeah, my girl Tiana! I have a deck of her that I’ve really been meaning and wanting to buy, since she’s super underrated imo. Basically beta Feather but for auras and equipments. You can run so many good auras and equipments in her, especially ones that draw cards when they ETB so you can replay them again if your creatures die since they’ll go back to your hand. And she can be built for very cheap too!
Teshar is honestly one of my favourite decks I've built and it's also one of the most powerful. With cards like Blasting or Grinding station, or an Altar of the Brood, you can go infinite really quickly.
You forgot Helm of the Host with Kaiga. Though it doesn't allow you to kill off the clones instantly, it does allow you to use the clones for other things, such as sacrificing them for whatever you need.
Jolrael, Empress of Beasts is another underrated commander that's alot of fun. You basically are an aggressive ramp deck. Your ramp spells are never undervalued no matter what stage you are in the game. I think you could easily make it less and $50 as well.
Teshar is sick. You can go w/ pricey combos like Heliod/Walking Ballista, Bomberman w/ LED. Or, you can go a little cheaper w/ Fiend Hunter/Sun Titan. And, these all just run parallel to the natural combos in a budget Teshar combo deck.
I feel Xyris, the Writhing Storm very is underrated. A lot of youtube videos talk about their top 10 from ikoria and I never see it. There are a lot of group hug cards for drawing cards that are cheaper because they are "each player" but they really aren't group huggy in Xyris cause you get value from each card. Cards such as horn of greed or fecundity (they may but that just ends up being cheap card advantage for yourself then) Cause if an opponent draws a card not on their turn it isn't excluded from Xyris 1/1 snake trigger. It would be really each to get the army hurting too, with a Grumgully on the field or impact tremors to turn it more into a nekusar like deck but with creature advantage too. Finally, Forced Fruition is a card and that gives you 7 snakes for free each time an opponent casts a spell. Also will probably end up being mass discard from everyone else too.
Xyris can be incredibly powerful and fast. Absolutely love it. It costs just enough for you to set up a little bit, throw down a Howling Mine, Shared Animosity, Parallel Lives, Beastmaster's Ascendancy, Temur Ascendancy - whatever. Then the big leviathan comes out and starts throwing out a ton, and I mean a ton of snakes. It's brutal how much damage this commander can dish out, especially considering how powerful and desired draw is in commander. Consecrated Sphinx means more prophet for you. Any wheel card ever is more prophet for you. Any card that interacts with tribes or powers swarms, like Coat of Arms, or In the Web of War, or even just triggers on entering the battlefield like Impact Tremors, or better yet Purphoros. There's just so many things that interacts with this commander effectively. Even if Xyris is out and you don't have much out, I don't think people realize just what this commander can do and see the shared card draw as a fair or even advantageous exchange. Really fun and underrated commander, I'm surprised too why no one saw the potential in it.
@@mihaghoraprime6263 I used a lot of what you talked about but threw in a helm of the host on him and ended up with 90 snakes in one round (3 opponent turns). It was beautiful. Never have I seen 3 people get so worried so fast giving me 30ish snakes each on their turns.
@@t.s.8430 Oh yeah, Helm of the Host is a universally powerful card undoubtedly. Brutal. I'll be looking out for some underutilized cards too. Xyris is even the only commander so far where I'd ever consider using Endless Swarm. All those cards in hand? All of the snakes? Hooooh boy.
@@mihaghoraprime6263 LOL I would totally agree if it wasn't "Epic" I often found my play group targetting my draw cards spells like howling mine and such, so over time I don't think it would work well. I did make mine Snake tribal, so I have a few odd balls like: Sosuke's Summons and all the legendary snakes Another odd ball is: Grothama, All-Devouring, lotta value if people don't want it to die haha Also The Great Aurora is a fun one, no snakes from it but you will more often than not get more value from permanents than others. Burning Inquiry is a great single cost burst if you still have 3 opponents And Cryptolith Rite is BRUTAL in it.
I wanted to build Sachi for a long time but more into snakes and not shaman but it sounds soooo cool when you have shaman's who are in tune with nature and give you extra mana from nature so you give them all the power they need to overrun my opponents. It feels like I am a god! XD
One of the best auras for Tiana is Soul Tithe. (1)(W) at the beginning of enchanted creature's controller's upkeep they have to pay X where X is the CMC of the enchanted creature or it's sacrificed.
Loved playing Tiana, she was my first commander deck. Later on tho, I dismantled her because a lot of people kept targeting her non-stop (and that got really annoying) but made her into a Pauper Commander.
Font of Vigor and Font of Ire from old Theros... as well as Omen of the Sun and Omen of the Forge from new Theros work with Tiana (Ship's Caretaker) as well. Enchantments and Equipment you can sacrifice work pretty good. Does Bludgeon Brawl work with her? On a side note, Garna (the Bloodflame) works well as a support creature to guard against board wipes and double down on sacrifice outlet value in any creature-based deck containing red and black.
I'm playing horobi in a 60 cards Deck with some juicy artifacts like helm of chatzuk for example to target enemy creatures. It's suprisingly effective sometimes against my friends decks
My two favorite underrated/undervalued commanders are Etrata the Silencer and (mono-white) Danitha Capashen, Paragon. Etrata is amazing combined with cards like Helm of the Host and Spark Double. But she works best in smaller games like 1 on 1. Danitha is awesome because she is cheap, powerful and makes all your auras and equipments cheaper.
I made a Horobi deck that I was super excited for, but he just got rocked the minute he hit the board and I didn't really have a wincon. I wish he had hexproof or something.
I recently bought Horobi because it looked fun, but that’s as far as I’ve gotten. I have at least three Tianas from drafting and have ignored her but you’ve definitely made me see her in a new light.
I often put Llawan into any blue deck I play. Blue is a very common color for commander and just stopping them from being able to play their commander is huge.
I built a $25 horobi deck start of last year. fun deck to whip out once in a while, horobi gets targeted pretty quick but the deck is built so you only have to cast him when you need a wipe.
Quiet Contemplation : Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, you may pay {1}. If you do, tap target creature an opponent controls and it doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step. This card is stupidly good for like 5cts x). Especially with Kykar ! :P
I tried building decks like Horobi and Keiga, but sadly my playgroup plays almost entirely non-creature decks, so I recommend Thalia like effects to go along these type of decks to balance their weakness. Also Karn is useful to turn the artifacts into creatures so you can interact with them.
@@aktyelements8034 Buddy you're so right it's not even funny. Great minds for sure! Pitiless Plunder is also sweet with that sneak attack combo. If you can afford the price tag dockside extortionist sometimes does the job all by himself. My favorite piece of tech is heartless summoning. You lose out on a viscera seer and maybe a few others but a three cost garna is choice.
mumbles Are you thinking of something in this vein?: “Dialectical thinking refers to the ability to view issues from multiple perspectives and to arrive at the most economical and reasonable reconciliation of seemingly contradictory information and postures.” -from eric.ed.gov
I don't think you mentioned this but Garna also works with discarding creatures. So, wheel effects are stronger. I'd probably run Magus of the Wheel and Archfiend of Ifnir.
I love my Borborygmos Enraged. No one thinks discarding a land for 3 damage is anything crazy until he starts hurling rocks and trees and machine guns down the table in one turn.
Horobi would be great in a Rakdos commander deck with the amount of targeting spells in red. Same with Pestilence Spirit, which I've been trying to figure out how to make a deck around since I first saw it. I just need to find the commander to build it around.
For what it's worth, you can't use Glamerdye with Llawan to bounce green creatures. When it hits the battlefield the ability goes on the stack, and Glamerdye can't change the effect of the ability.
i built an angus fog deck around changing colour words. literally all; the cards you said to change colours and stuff were in there. have fun green sunning for a black creature in your simic deck
While I've seen horobi floating around locally, it was before it got many of its key cards listed here. As far as some other underated decks, I wish to propose 2 to you. First is Seton, krosan protector, and Druid tribal. Now, I admit, most people who saw the deck immidietly assumed it was elves, cause lots of druids are also elves. But the point is, Seton lets you tap druids for mana, ignoring summoning sickness, unlike Sachi, who you mentioned in this video. This lets you play though your cards quickly and efficiently. And there are some cards that allow you to just keep drawing additional cards. Essentially it's an elfball...er, druidball style deck. While glimpse of nature is up there price wise, there are other solid replacements. The second, and this one i feel is severely underplayed, is ib halfheart, goblin tactition. The issue here is that goblin tribal, even in mono-colour, is seen to have a better commander in krenko. However, ib halfheart can have surprisingly explosive plays, mostly due to the effect of it less people remember. Sac 2 mountains:make 2 gobbos. Now, yes, getting rid of your own lands sounds like a super risky play. It is. BUT, it can allow you some random wins out of nowhere due to a few cards. First, obviously, is purphoros. It's a deck that makes tokens. However, another funny thing about the deck is how it interacts with mana echos. See, mana echos triggers when you make a creature that shares a type, but doesn't count how much mana you get till resolution.as such, you can respond to its trigger by saving more lands for gobbos, triggering it more, and giving more chance to respond. Yes, you can wipe your lands out fully, but you can generate easily a ton of mana with this. This can lead into any number of ways to kill the table with all that mana. However, it's an all or nothing plan. If it gets countered, your a sitting duck, but sometimes that happens, and people usually try to take you out quick after that stunt. Ib also has its first effect, that goes well with the enchantment repercussions. It makes it so no one wants to block your goblins, and risk losing a creature, and taking 4 to the face. (Repercussions already makes blocking unfavorable normally)
@@azazelmorningstar5631 exactly. And yes, I have eaten counter spells as a result of this move. But it's always been in an attempt to close the game out. Its possibly a mental thing also. When I do it, i think if it as saying "I want to move on to the next game". So I either win, and move to the next game, or I get knocked out for having no resources, and can move onto the next game
I love horobi. Completely turns the game on it's head with how his ability work. Especially if the opponent has equipment in play
Horobi is a lot of fun, but Horobi is a beast, a bitch, and a bastard to protect on the board... He's a great budget build, though, and a he'll of a shock in the 99...
Yeah i had the Horobi Tetzimoc combo a few years ago and just locked down the table for a few days lol
@@andrewamann2821 Nah, it's like what other people said, you use Horobi as a boardwipe in the command zone basically. I have him as a deck and that's usually how I use him, though I also Hex parasite and Cauldron of Souls, which I'm surprised Mitch didn't mention, which work absurdly well with Horobi
I want to build that deck 😮
Hate him. He slows the game down and makes everyone indecisive
Let's at least be happy that Keiga only says "creature" and not "permanent".
There is agent of treachery for that haha
Especially with something like Rite of Replication.
Would be fun to steal all the lands, right? NO
Also the death trigger rules changed so keiga can go to command zone now and it counts ;)
“If you were in standard, you start at 20 life so you’d actually have to work to get to 30.”
*laughs in Vampire*
Painter's Servant into Llawan, Cephalid Empress bounces all your opponents creatures and then locks them out of creatures until they deal with either piece.
Rheece i have it build it’s a magical hack deck
Thank u
I was also triggered that he didn't mention it.
@@paulduncan9239 I built a sweet Llawan colorhack deck on MTGO... like every colorhack card either doesn't work on MTGO or totally crashes the table =(
"With overrun you basically overrun your opponents" - Mitch
One of my favorite MTG memories is playing Cauldron of Souls into someone else's Horobi.
One of my best friends used this in his Horibi deck. Along with lots of tutors to go find it (especially cheap like Brainspoil).
You should do a RUclips Poll with old underrated Legends and do a deck tech on the winning one! I think that’d be really cool. (Also, I have a really cool Hazduhr, The Abbot EDH deck that I would like to share with you if you’re interested)
Decklist?
List???
I like dakkun and wanna build him but he’s bit that good TT so it would be a waste of money
Horobi is a great commander, but it never made a whole turn back to me T.T
As soon people see what Horobi does, you never have a chanve to do it
Treat Horobi as a mass removal spell. As soon as you resolve it, you use one of your effects to remove stuff. Doesn't matter if it's dead afterwards.
For me I'm like its a good commander with that mindset, but put it into a red black and just use the mass ping spells like electrical trickery. Board wipe for 2 mana.
Ramp, do it again
Ramp, do it again
I like to morph a gift of doom onto him (doesn't target if you morph it.), or reanimate him with fated return... Both can be awesome for other stuff than horobi, too.
@@1998wiwi You might even want sac outlets to make SURE it's dead afterwards so your own creatures don't die to it. Also nightmare shepherd finally offers protection that actually works with Horobi.
Thank you so much for mentioning Tiana. I was really disappointed when the command zone took 1 look at it and instantly wore it off as another Boros commander. My deck is based around the principle of “don’t attack me” I have lots of auras that disuade attacks against me and lots of auras that are useful to recur. It’s not my best deck, but it can hang with more powerful decks, the consistent recursion is extremely useful when you get hit with 5 board wipes per game.
I agree! Tiana is a great commander and I love using her. Totem armor, enchantress style card draw, gift of immortality, the white and red ordeals, and pacifism style enchantments just make it a control powerhouse with so much value! Truly a sleeper commander, I just wish she was a little cheaper to cast. :)
Same, I love tianacompared to my play group she's underpowered but I still use her because she adorable
Yay! Mitch with another great episode!
Thanks for keeping the content flowing in these hard times Mitch, giving me plenty of ideas for when I finally get back to my commander squad!
One of my favorite underrated commanders is Kuon, Ogre Ascendant. He's a cheap commander that can be built in a multitude of ways, you can build an interesting control deck or a reanimator deck focused on keep creatures on the board while the opponents struggle.
Runetail is actually quite interesting. Provided you can protect your stuff from spot removal, that protector of the crown, I believe it was, can stall out a game in a way that card advantage becomes less of an advantage. After pulling that soft lock off, having a Felidar Sovereign, Test of Endurance, or Approach of the Second Sun could come in real handy.
Teshar won a cEDH tornament at one of my local game stores. Such a solid commander.
Its pretty known in the community its one of the most viable if correctly built mono white commanders
I recently build a Teshar deck, and I can confirm that is the closest to a "good stuff" deck in monoW
I found a way to go infinite with Teshar, use cards like kor skyfisher ( ETB is to return a permanent you control to hand) and any free sac and a 0 drop artifact.
sac the fisher to free sac outlet
play 0 drops, gets back skyfisher, return 0 drop to hand
repeat
@@thedarkestlight4563 needs 2 zero drops to do though to be clear. The reanimate is on cast
The DarkestLight you should use myr retriever and other similar cards, my only gripe with a Teshar is that combo seems to be the only way to win.
@@dus65 my deck is more focused on tokens and little utility creatures, swinging wide with True Conviction or going tall with Angelic Exaltation, Blackblade Reforged or Sublime Archangel, but yeah, artifact combos are far more efficient
@@dus65 combo or control
A hugely underrated theft commander is Merieke Ri Berit, with under 400 decks on EDHrec. Her sneaky trick is that if she leaves the battlefield - she doesn't even have to die - or untaps, you destroy the creatures she stole. So with something like Pemmin's Aura or blink effects, for a few blue mana you can repeatedly wipe the board except for a single creature, which you then just control. And if you give them indestructible with something like Avacyn, you don't even lose the creatures as you do this.
She is so good, everyone has to play their commander at some point. Combine her with other thieving cards like perplexing chimera and narset's reversal and it's a very strong deck
@@Unch0sen1 And you're in esper colors, so you have all the removal and protection you need.
My horobi deck is one of my favorites, love kamigawa block and no one expects how strong the deck can be
Kamigawa is awesome! It was the second block I played through coming out beginning to end.
The Gitrog Monster is my personal favorite commander deck right now. Get a Crucible of Worlds or Ramunap Excavator into play and just abuse landfall triggers for the win.
These are my favorite episodes. I really enjoy new strategies with commanders that fly under the radar. Definitely checking out a Tiana deck. Thanks Mitch!
Yesterday I decided I was gonna to make a horobi deck as my first commander deck! I hope the cards don't get too much more expensive 😬 some other good cards for it are bloodthirsty blade and cauldron of souls
This video turned out way better than i expected. If you have any more underrated commanders I would love to see a part 2!
Take a shot for every time he says "basically"!
Love your content Mitch!
Beat me to this comment. I stopped at 20 times.
Adam Keeton RIP
It's really cool to see this video now after the new commander ruling that going to the command zone counts as a death trigger. Your deck tech about Keiga works even better knowing that at the very least you can still get keiga to go to the command zone and still get its effects.
Great video! Thinking about making two or three of those into commander decks.
YES!! I’ve been wanting to build a llawan deck for forever but didn’t really know what angle to take it. This gives me a good idea on how to start with it and I think I’m gonna FINALLY build one now! Loving these videos!
Neheb the worthy. Discard/reanimate is highly underrated. It gets laughed at until I have an eldrazi on the table and people’s hands are gone then I get hated out but it’s awesome
When I introduced a friend to EDH, Tiana Ship's Caretaker was the commander she had. It was GREAT for beginners. Effective, easy to understand it's effectiveness, easy to hunt down staples to fill up her deck.
I think Thryx the sudden storm is also underrated, dropping big spells that cannot be countered one turn earlier is more powerful than people think.
My brother gifted me an Horobi deck last christmas and I absolutely fell in love with it. If you get the target engine going and a Grave Betrayal in play you're in a solid position. Also Eldrazi Monument and Grave Pact type effects are great in it!
One of the players at my LGS played a Teshar combo deck against me and after losing turn 5, I had to build a copy of the deck.
It is one of my favorite decks to play, especially against new players (I teach about 3 people a year how to play EDH, and always refer them to this channel when they say they want to build their first deck).
Examples from my version:
(Lotus Petal + Salvager of Ruin + Teshar = infinite mana, etbs, cast, and death triggers)
(Ornithopter + Myr Retriever + Altar of Dementia + Teshar = infinite mill, etbs, cast, and death triggers)
Wow! These are great, I can just imagine the Golden Pigs for all these decks! Love the channel, Mitch!
Small note on mirror mockery Keiga: You can steal an opponent's flier before blockers are declared to get through more easily in the following turns.
Nice, runetail was actually one of my first commanders, back when i was new to the format, and that was before we got as much white catchup/draw support in mono white.
Teshar + Mangara + Blasting Station + other historic spells = exiling all your opponents stuff (well, once per turn) whilst pinging them. I also have a Ranger-Captain of Eos in my Teshar deck and it is just absurd. Thanks Mitch for giving Teshar the kudos it deserves!
I actually used to have a Horobi deck. Another card to use in the deck is Baton of Morale. Not as efficient as some options but the effect is useful when Horobi isn't in play to really mess with combat math. It's also incredibly useful to allow tokens or other small creatures to block creatures with trample and soak up all the damage.
My favorite underrated commander is Patron of the Moon. It's ramp in monoblue, plus you can pull off an infinite combo with Amulet of Vigor and Storm Cauldron.
You should really start a weekly or bi-weekly tribal deck video series. I know you would come up with some great synergies! Plus tribal chairs had me rolling in laughter. I legitimately almost went and bought the deck online just to make my friends laugh.
i stumbled onto Sachi a little while ago and i knew i had to build a deck around her because there are so many green mana sinks in EDH so i'm glad you brought a little more attention to her. Also fun, random fact: Woodfall Primus is a shaman. As if that card didn't do enough for you.
Oh, Tiana. My favorite underrated commander, next to Hallar. Doing a Voltron or just an enchantment/equipment deck with her is pretty fun to do, but control is pretty unique for her. Maybe I'll give it a try once the card shops open up again...
Hi! I been watching the channel for about 5 months now and enjoy it. I've built a couple Commander on a Budget decks and still building more of them. I was thinking that maybe with all the useful tips given if a critique of decks other people built themselves could be done to see how their deck building skills stands. Competitive-Jank and where improvements can be made maybe. Just an ideal for Spare Change if you like it. I have 5 Commander decks that I built myself I would to see where they fit in power wise and where I fit in with my deck building skills. Love the channel. Keep putting out top quality content.
I recently built a Tiana aura defence deck, and it's really fun! One of my favourite cards in the deck is spirit link, especially when you slap it on your opponent's big scary beater. Whenever that creature deals damage, you gain that much life! Notably, it's not been updated to say lifelink instead, meaning you can slap it on your opponent's biggest, scariest thing, gain life whenever it deals damage, and if they want to stop it they have to sacrifice it or destroy the aura, and you just get it back with Tiana! Laccolith rig is another really fun card in the deck - "Whenever enchanted creature becomes blocked, you may have it deal damage equal to its power to target creature. If you do, the first creature assigns no combat damage this turn." You can slap it on an opponent's creature, block it if it swings at you, and blow up something else scary! It's a really fun politically orientated deck, where you use enchantments on your opponent's creatures you help have them do things for you!
Also, if you're looking for a way to win with Tiana, All That Glitters and Etheral Armor can turn her into an absolute powerhouse out of no-where, especially if you've had your opponent's deal with each other!
Kataki eggs is one of my favorite decks to play hoses opponents and let's you go off on artifact graveyard shenanigans. Also have a mycsynth lattice lock and the decks been fun
I have a Friend that Runs Horobi... She loves running gimmick decks. And I run a Mill/Steal/Copy Lazav Dimir Mastermind deck, I love making an Evil Twin of someone's commander, Its one of my favorite decks.
Garna with Living Death is a fun combo. Same with other versions of Living Death, and just normal field wipes.
i think it has some kind of really cool flavor to it, that the color, which revolves around artifacts the least in comparison to the other colors, but needs them most to function as good as the other colors..
Had a hilarious game where I was playing Keiga against someone's Horobi deck. Was really fun, though I did have to work hard to keep Horobi off the board so that I wasn't just playing 3-5 mana, sorcery speed killspells, instead of stealing stuff lol
A fun combo I thought of today for Tiana is Bludgeon Brawl, letting you recast capsules and baubles as well.
Good video, but I have to say this. Kurkesh was sorely missed. Give my ogre spirit some love in the future.
Garna is a huge amount of fun. Don't write off the haste clause either, but not for massive attacks. Once you have the mana from your Priests and Cathodion sacc'd to Altars you can cast mana dorks like Basal Thrull and Generator Servant, drop Garna, and before you sac her and her ETB goes off, tap all the dorks (now they are hasty) to float the mana, and then sac them as well. Throw in the usual reducers (like the monuments and medallions) and you can create infinite (or at least near infinite) spins of your creatures. Now kill everyone - before Syr K I used Impact Tremors, Outpost Siege, Judith, Bontu's Monument etc. Syr K makes this even more vicious. Aetherfluxing the table is also a very real possibility and just for giggles, Haze of Rage where the storm count is ludicrous. After all, all your creatures have haste. Have fun murdering the table with a bunch of overclocked mana Myrs.
The only minor problem is that your turns can be a little like solitaire - though, hey it is the Rakdos player's turn for once, suck it blue mage, with your extra turn spells.
I play Garna as a storm commander.
I play tons of lowcost/0 cmc creatures, sac them for value and mana and loop this through Garna's ability with aetherflux on the field or storm cards/gravestorm card in my hand.
This either nukes my opponents or I can generate infinte mana fairly early for Exsanguinate/Torment of Hailfire.
Thank you Mitch you are the first person I met who notice the garna, dining trigger and the fact you never have to pay commander tax on her.
I thought your channel had become more generic these past weeks with these discussion videos about cards most players know, but this video makes up for it with great content that's actually focused to your channel's theme! I really appreciated hearing about all these cool commanders we rarely see and might actually consider one or two.
For the Rune-Tail Pariah would be great obviously, but I was thinkng also to Eight Tails and a Half, wich not only protects your buddies from the few spot removals still working, but there's goddamn flavour in sliding it in the 99
Teshar got a shoutout !! Need to make a deck tech. Stoked that volrath and teshar have been mentioned in the past couple weeks awesome
I run Teshar in my Bant superfriends deck, he's become one of my favorite cards, glad to see him getting some love 😎.
Hell yeah, my girl Tiana! I have a deck of her that I’ve really been meaning and wanting to buy, since she’s super underrated imo. Basically beta Feather but for auras and equipments. You can run so many good auras and equipments in her, especially ones that draw cards when they ETB so you can replay them again if your creatures die since they’ll go back to your hand. And she can be built for very cheap too!
Teshar is honestly one of my favourite decks I've built and it's also one of the most powerful. With cards like Blasting or Grinding station, or an Altar of the Brood, you can go infinite really quickly.
You forgot Helm of the Host with Kaiga. Though it doesn't allow you to kill off the clones instantly, it does allow you to use the clones for other things, such as sacrificing them for whatever you need.
Jolrael, Empress of Beasts is another underrated commander that's alot of fun. You basically are an aggressive ramp deck. Your ramp spells are never undervalued no matter what stage you are in the game. I think you could easily make it less and $50 as well.
Teshar is sick. You can go w/ pricey combos like Heliod/Walking Ballista, Bomberman w/ LED. Or, you can go a little cheaper w/ Fiend Hunter/Sun Titan. And, these all just run parallel to the natural combos in a budget Teshar combo deck.
I feel Xyris, the Writhing Storm very is underrated.
A lot of youtube videos talk about their top 10 from ikoria and I never see it. There are a lot of group hug cards for drawing cards that are cheaper because they are "each player" but they really aren't group huggy in Xyris cause you get value from each card. Cards such as horn of greed or fecundity (they may but that just ends up being cheap card advantage for yourself then) Cause if an opponent draws a card not on their turn it isn't excluded from Xyris 1/1 snake trigger. It would be really each to get the army hurting too, with a Grumgully on the field or impact tremors to turn it more into a nekusar like deck but with creature advantage too.
Finally, Forced Fruition is a card and that gives you 7 snakes for free each time an opponent casts a spell. Also will probably end up being mass discard from everyone else too.
Xyris can be incredibly powerful and fast. Absolutely love it. It costs just enough for you to set up a little bit, throw down a Howling Mine, Shared Animosity, Parallel Lives, Beastmaster's Ascendancy, Temur Ascendancy - whatever. Then the big leviathan comes out and starts throwing out a ton, and I mean a ton of snakes. It's brutal how much damage this commander can dish out, especially considering how powerful and desired draw is in commander. Consecrated Sphinx means more prophet for you. Any wheel card ever is more prophet for you. Any card that interacts with tribes or powers swarms, like Coat of Arms, or In the Web of War, or even just triggers on entering the battlefield like Impact Tremors, or better yet Purphoros. There's just so many things that interacts with this commander effectively. Even if Xyris is out and you don't have much out, I don't think people realize just what this commander can do and see the shared card draw as a fair or even advantageous exchange. Really fun and underrated commander, I'm surprised too why no one saw the potential in it.
@@mihaghoraprime6263 I used a lot of what you talked about but threw in a helm of the host on him and ended up with 90 snakes in one round (3 opponent turns). It was beautiful. Never have I seen 3 people get so worried so fast giving me 30ish snakes each on their turns.
@@t.s.8430 Oh yeah, Helm of the Host is a universally powerful card undoubtedly. Brutal. I'll be looking out for some underutilized cards too. Xyris is even the only commander so far where I'd ever consider using Endless Swarm. All those cards in hand? All of the snakes? Hooooh boy.
@@mihaghoraprime6263 LOL I would totally agree if it wasn't "Epic" I often found my play group targetting my draw cards spells like howling mine and such, so over time I don't think it would work well.
I did make mine Snake tribal, so I have a few odd balls like: Sosuke's Summons and all the legendary snakes
Another odd ball is: Grothama, All-Devouring, lotta value if people don't want it to die haha
Also The Great Aurora is a fun one, no snakes from it but you will more often than not get more value from permanents than others.
Burning Inquiry is a great single cost burst if you still have 3 opponents
And Cryptolith Rite is BRUTAL in it.
@@mihaghoraprime6263 +Howling Golem
+Impact Tremors
+purphoros god of forge
Would love to see a Rune-Tail and Horobi deck tech. I have been looking for a mono colored deck and both of these (especially Rune-Tail) looks great!
I always wondered why some ppl would destroy some of the cards i have in my decks b4 i could play them, be watching out for more of ur videos. Thanks
I wanted to build Sachi for a long time but more into snakes and not shaman but it sounds soooo cool when you have shaman's who are in tune with nature and give you extra mana from nature so you give them all the power they need to overrun my opponents. It feels like I am a god! XD
That's funny, I was thinking about touch of darkness when you brought up horobi and you said it!
One of the best auras for Tiana is Soul Tithe.
(1)(W) at the beginning of enchanted creature's controller's upkeep they have to pay X where X is the CMC of the enchanted creature or it's sacrificed.
Loved playing Tiana, she was my first commander deck. Later on tho, I dismantled her because a lot of people kept targeting her non-stop (and that got really annoying) but made her into a Pauper Commander.
Teshar is my pet commander. I love my eggs deck, and it's able to keep up with higher budget opponents
Make this a series! This is so awesome!!
Font of Vigor and Font of Ire from old Theros... as well as Omen of the Sun and Omen of the Forge from new Theros work with Tiana (Ship's Caretaker) as well. Enchantments and Equipment you can sacrifice work pretty good. Does Bludgeon Brawl work with her?
On a side note, Garna (the Bloodflame) works well as a support creature to guard against board wipes and double down on sacrifice outlet value in any creature-based deck containing red and black.
This is a fantastic episode Mitch! You flowed through the episode really well and fantastic cards!
I'm playing horobi in a 60 cards Deck with some juicy artifacts like helm of chatzuk for example to target enemy creatures. It's suprisingly effective sometimes against my friends decks
My two favorite underrated/undervalued commanders are Etrata the Silencer and (mono-white) Danitha Capashen, Paragon.
Etrata is amazing combined with cards like Helm of the Host and Spark Double. But she works best in smaller games like 1 on 1. Danitha is awesome because she is cheap, powerful and makes all your auras and equipments cheaper.
Horobi was the first commander deck I really played with(borrowed it from a friend) it rarely won but it had a big impact all the time
Am I the only one who always goes immediately to the 0:54 mark to where this channel's videos actually start?
I made a Horobi deck that I was super excited for, but he just got rocked the minute he hit the board and I didn't really have a wincon. I wish he had hexproof or something.
I recently bought Horobi because it looked fun, but that’s as far as I’ve gotten. I have at least three Tianas from drafting and have ignored her but you’ve definitely made me see her in a new light.
17:39 Little reminder: legendary rule does not cause a sacrifice effect. It's just "put into the graveyard".
Tiana is a deck ive always wanted to build. I also thought about unofficially partnering it with eutropia the twice favored.
I often put Llawan into any blue deck I play. Blue is a very common color for commander and just stopping them from being able to play their commander is huge.
I would love a deck tech on Tiana, never thought about a boros auras as viable and it looks interesting
I built a $25 horobi deck start of last year. fun deck to whip out once in a while, horobi gets targeted pretty quick but the deck is built so you only have to cast him when you need a wipe.
I have a Teshar and an Horobi deck and have been building Tiana too. A really cool card for Horobi is Fated Return.
I run Keiga in my Simic control and with the right draw, I use Followed Footsteps.
Quiet Contemplation : Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, you may pay {1}. If you do, tap target creature an opponent controls and it doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
This card is stupidly good for like 5cts x). Especially with Kykar ! :P
this episode was way more interesting to than the last 2 of that kind: good job
I love the bird mono white commander and I have the flip becoming an enchantment, just pulled him!
Love videos like this one. So many cards I never gave a proper look. Thank you, Mitch
I tried building decks like Horobi and Keiga, but sadly my playgroup plays almost entirely non-creature decks, so I recommend Thalia like effects to go along these type of decks to balance their weakness. Also Karn is useful to turn the artifacts into creatures so you can interact with them.
Teshar was a deck I built. I called it "The British Empire"- It was only white, but it always could get land.
Garna goes infinite with Deathrender and a sac outlet. There's actually quite a few nasty infinite loops with her.
@@aktyelements8034 Buddy you're so right it's not even funny. Great minds for sure! Pitiless Plunder is also sweet with that sneak attack combo. If you can afford the price tag dockside extortionist sometimes does the job all by himself. My favorite piece of tech is heartless summoning. You lose out on a viscera seer and maybe a few others but a three cost garna is choice.
PSA:
Viscera: VIS-er-a.
Kitsune: kit-SOO-neh.
Real words that you can look up in a dictionary.
The Command Zone guys mispronounce 'viscera' all the time. They say it like it's a place.
Because having dialectical differences is such a travesty.
Vlad Plasmius They have gotten better.
mumbles Are you thinking of something in this vein?: “Dialectical thinking refers to the ability to view issues from multiple perspectives and to arrive at the most economical and reasonable reconciliation of seemingly contradictory information and postures.” -from eric.ed.gov
No I'm talking about how people pronounce words like about vs aboot.
I don't think you mentioned this but Garna also works with discarding creatures. So, wheel effects are stronger. I'd probably run Magus of the Wheel and Archfiend of Ifnir.
Skirge Familiar too
Yay thank u for keeping me sane. I’ll definitely try build some of these during locodown
I love my Borborygmos Enraged. No one thinks discarding a land for 3 damage is anything crazy until he starts hurling rocks and trees and machine guns down the table in one turn.
You're on a roll my dude! Makes my morning coffee!
touch of darkness with horobi is also a mega flavor win. Touch of Darkness by Horobi = Death. Really nice
Horobi would be great in a Rakdos commander deck with the amount of targeting spells in red. Same with Pestilence Spirit, which I've been trying to figure out how to make a deck around since I first saw it. I just need to find the commander to build it around.
For what it's worth, you can't use Glamerdye with Llawan to bounce green creatures. When it hits the battlefield the ability goes on the stack, and Glamerdye can't change the effect of the ability.
horobi I definitely agree with I'm shocked that commander isn't played more
i built an angus fog deck around changing colour words. literally all; the cards you said to change colours and stuff were in there. have fun green sunning for a black creature in your simic deck
in fact im going to rebuild it now. Thanks mitch now i need to buy another angus
While I've seen horobi floating around locally, it was before it got many of its key cards listed here.
As far as some other underated decks, I wish to propose 2 to you.
First is Seton, krosan protector, and Druid tribal. Now, I admit, most people who saw the deck immidietly assumed it was elves, cause lots of druids are also elves. But the point is, Seton lets you tap druids for mana, ignoring summoning sickness, unlike Sachi, who you mentioned in this video. This lets you play though your cards quickly and efficiently. And there are some cards that allow you to just keep drawing additional cards. Essentially it's an elfball...er, druidball style deck. While glimpse of nature is up there price wise, there are other solid replacements.
The second, and this one i feel is severely underplayed, is ib halfheart, goblin tactition. The issue here is that goblin tribal, even in mono-colour, is seen to have a better commander in krenko. However, ib halfheart can have surprisingly explosive plays, mostly due to the effect of it less people remember. Sac 2 mountains:make 2 gobbos.
Now, yes, getting rid of your own lands sounds like a super risky play. It is. BUT, it can allow you some random wins out of nowhere due to a few cards. First, obviously, is purphoros. It's a deck that makes tokens. However, another funny thing about the deck is how it interacts with mana echos. See, mana echos triggers when you make a creature that shares a type, but doesn't count how much mana you get till resolution.as such, you can respond to its trigger by saving more lands for gobbos, triggering it more, and giving more chance to respond. Yes, you can wipe your lands out fully, but you can generate easily a ton of mana with this. This can lead into any number of ways to kill the table with all that mana. However, it's an all or nothing plan. If it gets countered, your a sitting duck, but sometimes that happens, and people usually try to take you out quick after that stunt.
Ib also has its first effect, that goes well with the enchantment repercussions. It makes it so no one wants to block your goblins, and risk losing a creature, and taking 4 to the face. (Repercussions already makes blocking unfavorable normally)
People is scared of sacrificing lands, but they don't get that you should only do it when you think victory is at hand not just randomly
@@azazelmorningstar5631 exactly. And yes, I have eaten counter spells as a result of this move. But it's always been in an attempt to close the game out.
Its possibly a mental thing also. When I do it, i think if it as saying "I want to move on to the next game". So I either win, and move to the next game, or I get knocked out for having no resources, and can move onto the next game