i love the idea that someone has never heard of the concept of self-defense before but they have made it thru life to the point they've seen the mike tyson pigeon docu and been like ¨uhh yeaaaaa that's a good reason¨
I had to write an essay over a sports star and I didn't know who Mike Tyson was and when I did my research I was horrified, still wrote it about him tho
i was raised in a tough neighbourhood and the toughest guy who everyone respected and feared was a pigeon guy. he ruled that neighbourhood fully, one whistle and he had a whole army of pigeons behind him
I have a story: I was bullied in primary school, and I was crying so I sat on a bench and just talked to a pigeon. (Don’t ask me why, I was like 6). Then, the pigeon flew away. I was so upset. But, suddenly, the bully just ran past me screaming. THE PIGEON WAS LITERALLY CHASING HIM AWAYY
I don't know how this didn't come up in the video, but Mike Tyson had an animated TV show where he also raises pigeons, one of whom talks and is voiced by Norm Macdonald. Needless to say, it was about Mike Tyson going around solving mysteries with the talking pigeon, his adopted Korean daughter, and the ghost of a 19th century British noble.
Omg 😢 this is super heartbreaking actually. As a bird nerd myself I work at a parrot rescue and while not the same as pigeons, the main thing we are taught is to learn to read a birds body language and to never strong arm them or force them to do things they don’t want and interaction with us should be a calm fun experience. Pigeons are super smart and I’ve seen people with ones that ACTUALLY love them and are bonded to them and the pigeons will actually come to them and cuddle with them and do tricks. He is absolutely terrorizing those birds. All birds are extremely messy and lots of work having 1k is insanity no wonder they die of illness so often and that’s even worse bc that man has plenty of money to care for a reasonable amount and get vet care. Anyone who loves a certain animal is not going to feed that animal to a hawk even if they aren’t their favorite color or even if they aren’t friendly! He owns lots of exotic animals too I can only imagine the horrors they suffer. Hate to say I’m with peta on this one. Feels like a fever dream.
I dont know anything about pidgeon care but I'm glad to know that I'm right in that these birds are terribly mistreated. I am very interested in like reptile husbandry and keeping them as pets and while it is different I feel like there are some overlaps, proper amounts of space, enrichment, cleanliness, space from each other if being kept together and most importantly just respecting an animals boundaries. And I don't think it takes someone who's interested in pet husbandry to realize that these animals boundaries don't even cross his mind. The way he just grabbed that bird was so upsetting omg. And personally there are some reptile morphs that I'm just not a fan of but it really doesn't matter at all. Those animals deserve just as much respect as any other coloration. And a pet bird (like a white one) being more vulnerable to predation wouldn't be an issue if you took proper safety measures. I know albino reptiles that are so common in the pet trade wouldnt last a day outside but it doesn't matter when you protect your pets!! Also I'm sorry but there is no way in hell one person have thousands of pet birds in different locations without mistreating them. I hate how many people claim to be animal lovers but treat animals as objects not individuals, and that's what he's doing.
I can't believe he has so many, the amount of work it takes to just take car eof ONE bird is insane, I feel so bad for them. I'm not even a bird owner, but I've taken temporary care of pigeons before, and it's heartbreaking how often they are neglected and roughly handled.
THE WAY HE POKED IT TOO?!?!!?!! I was almost in tears when I saw that interview. That bird was scared out of its mind, poor little baby! It looks like he hurt it!
Yeah, as the video went on it went from “aw, he cares so much about his birds :)” to “oh no”, ending in “well that was horrifying”. Those animals are blatantly abused and he sees them as disposable. He legitimately was just terrorizing that bird at the end because he wasn’t fond of the color, that is the exact opposite of love and care. And he was willing to do that on TV! I can’t imagine what goes on off camera.
Apparently pigeons do have to be strong armed, or more technical, you have to be confident when grabbing. It seems Mike might not know what he’s doing which is sad tbh, he obviously loves and cares for them but I think he’s not the brightest. I hope it was more staged than what we saw.
“Why won’t this pigeon follow me back to my house because I want it to??” Is a genuine regular thought I’ve had when trying to catch and destring or rescue feral pigeons that 100% know what I’m up to. The pigeons definitely know Mike, mine (who are a wild flock) know me and my schedule and wait for me at the same time each day (& probably warn the others that I catch the ones with f***ed up / tangled feet, who avoid me like the plague). There’s a weirdly large amount of bird rescuers in large cities who teach each other to catch, treat and release pigeons back to their flocks. Mike has some Stuff going on to say it extremely lightly but still, great video!
I found a pigeon that wasn't a baby but wasn't fully developed. It couldn't quite fly. It was almost 100° f outside and that little buddy wasn't doing well at all. It climbed straight into my lap and climbed on my shoulder. I brought it upstairs gave it water and some peas. Every day we practiced trying to fly and pigeon friend spent hours outside in a safe tree and come in for some cool air and water. When the sun's was going down pigeon friend would jump out of the tree into my arms and refuse to leave. So I'd bring it upstairs and it would sleep all night. This went for almost a week until pigeon friend was strong enough to fly. It did visit me one time after though. I called to it by it's name Pigeonella/o. And it came to me. But only that once. After that it would look at me when I'd call it's name but not come to me. Which makes me happy. Good little pigeon friend❤
Fun fact: Pigeons were never wild. They were bred specifically as domestic pets. But then people got bored of them and abandoned them, leaving them to become wild. They're awesome little birds. I love them sm.
Same! I've spent a lot of time observing and listening to them, and they're so complex ! I help them when I can, but wish more animal rescues would do so.
There are technically a handful of wild populations of truly wild rock doves/pigeons but yeah you're pretty much right that all the pigeons we see are ferals :)
Don't want to burst your bubble, but the now extinct Passenger Pigeon was nothing but wild. They were killed off by hunters who placed smudge pots under the trees at night and gassed them into extinction. Today we still have the Band-Tailed Pigeon which is another totally wild breed. Get Levi's book, "The Pigeon" and get educated. No offense.
I just asked my dad “Hey dad, did you know that Mike Tyson has like thousands of pigeons?” And he said “Yeah, he’s always done that” LIKE EXCUSE ME WHAT
Pigeons are actually one of the only bird species classed as domesticated (besides poultry and some others)--that's why they're called feral pigeons instead of wild pigeons, and can only really survive in cities and not in the wild. Not even parrots are considered domesticated as a species. That's why it's so sad that pigeons are treated like they are and seen as pests instead of the companions they were for centuries. They're incredibly smart, loyal, and kind. I'd like to adopt one some day, but I already have a rescue parrot, so I'm not sure if they could be compatible (especially in terms of spreading diseases to each other). I'm glad Danny made this video and didn't shit on pigeons/owning pigeons as a whole (just raising some justifiable concerns about how Mike Tyson may do it).
If you have a garden, and keep the pidgeons outside and the parrot inside, you should be okay. They don’t necessarily have to be pets either; there’s a lady in my town center who lets local pidgeons roost in her garden shed, and she feeds them and rehabs the sick ones. They’re still free, they’re not ‘hers’ per se, but they do seem to have a bond, and she’s able to help a far larger number than if she had one or two or even a flock of ringed birds.
Also, I think there’s a difference. We have a “town” pidgeon who visits our garden, but also a pair of wood pidgeons who nest in one tree and they’re very different. The wood pidgeon is way bigger and looks quite different; he doesn’t like the town pidgeon and if townie comes near the feeder he chases him off 😂
Pigeons are like actually incredible- they have a sort of magnetic sense in their heads that allows them to know exactly how to fly home even if they don't know where they are or how they got there. The reason they are in cities is because they're honestly domestic birds. They rely on humans a lot and have learned how to do so in the most effective ways possible. Plus just look at em! They're adorable man what's not to love!!
I really like the idea of the show runners really wanting to do a documentary about Mike Tyson, being thrilled he said yes, and then having to change basically any idea's they had for it and having to put all their efforts into making this a decent documentary about pigeon racing because mike Tyson simply refused to talk about anything else.
my grandfather actually sold pigeons to Mike Tyson. he also sold pigeons to some rapper but he forgot their name. I thought my mom was lying until she showed me pictures of him and Mike together.
@@artelee8145 chickens can fly? it’s just people usually clip their wings. but like my friend is too lazy to clip her chickens wings, so they literally sleep in trees.
the way danny narrates this documentary is genuinely so delightful, i love this framing that mike tyson views the world thru pigeon-colored lenses. honestly, this video is just a documentary in of itself
Pigeons are much more intelligent than we give them credit for! They can recognize themselves in the mirror and even in some pictures and videos, can do basic math to the same level as some primates, and remember faces. In fact, their visual memory is much better than a humans, and they can remember specific images for years. I have two pigeons of my own, and they’re incredibly lovely. They enjoy watching tv and playing with bells. :)
You know, I'm not much of a parrot person, not in a way that I want to have one as a pet because they can be loud, so maybe I should get some pigeons one day 😂 I do like their cooing. For clarity, I'm joking, I wouldn't buy a pet I know nothing about. Do your research, even on dog breeds, before adopting a pet!
In fairness with avian flu, he literally could face times when 1000s of pigeons suddenly die. I can kind of relate to Mike on this one (in some ways). I had a pet dove and she was very sweet. We had her for almost 20 years then she met a tragic end.🕊
The avian flu doesn't affect pidgeons as badly as other birds. We have 200 free flyers and not one case. They don't get it ad easily nor do they pass it on to others
@@ccchhheeennn2"__________ whisperer" is a colloquialism used to indicate that the person is good at understanding the behavior of whichever animal goes in the ___________
Am I going insane? I just now asked my brother “hey do you know Mike Tyson’s hobby?” And he literally just answered “yeah, pigeons” so nonchalantly??? Like hello??? Why is this common knowledge???
i remember there being some kind of special about it on animal planet? because i definitely don’t watch any fighting and i knew about the pigeons for some reason
I used to work in a small town Post Office and we had a "pigeon guy". He would drop off his pigeons to be MAILED to people around the country so they could race. He actually won a lot of money from a few races! The pigeons would scare the crap out of me because I swear they only made noise when it was quiet, and I had forgotten they were in there!
As a beekeeper, losing tens of thousands of bees is something that can and will happen, we just do our best to prevent that. Nature is rough, but they out-pace the losses in normal circumstances.
As a person who loves pigeons I wanna add that pigeon racing is considered cruel because of the stress put on the birds and low survival rates (by predators, vehicles or getting lost)
@@alexisb3829 Probably because it's heavily debated. Since although race pigeons do have lower survival rates they also are in average more stable mentally, have lower depression and tend to bond very well, etc. There's other reasons for the debate too, especially with more modern racers that focus on other stuff than pure distance and make it saver and less stressful (even though the stress level is under debate too). Personally I am on neither side, but I do understand both.
One of my best friends is super passionate about pigeons and I'm glad to see people in the comments recognizing that they're domestic animals! They were entirely bred by humans and it's really sad to see a lot of people's attitudes towards them :(
I’m not surprised. I watched Mike Tyson Mysteries. Man dedicated Norm MacDonald’s entire character to be a Pigeon names Pigeon. RIP Norm MacDonald, you were one of the greatest comedians to ever live, man. Not enough people recognized your talent. But I loved you since My Name is Earl.
My grandfather used to shoot pigeons off of his roof because he didn't want bird poop on his roof. As a kid, I asked him about it, and he said they were blanks to just scare them away. When I got older and asked my family about it.....uh yeah, they were not blanks.😮😮😮
Truly one of the most life changing things I ever heard was that he started boxing seriously bc a bully killed his bird right in front of him. That’s the first time he beat the absolute hell out of someone and realized that even though he was small, he could fight. I haven’t finished the video yet- I’m sure you mention it- but if not it’s what it sounds like, some street thug came up to him on the street to taunt him, and he (mike) was holding the pigeon, and the guy took his pigeon and broke his beloved birds neck. I’ve heard him say another time the kid pulled the birds head off, either way, Mike grew up in the hood and didn’t have much and his pigeons (he used to train even the street pigeons) were his most prized possession and solace and seriously that story breaks my heart…. But it’s like a real true honest joker origin story lol like he said he saw red and then he just became the knockout king 😂😂😂😂😂
pigeons were bred by humans to carry messages, and with technology we essentially abandoned them. rock pigeons were the earliest domesticated bird. i’m glad they are still beloved by some. edit: okay, they aren’t treated well by tyson. there are luckily some in the comments who do love their pet pigeons, at least.
Yea. Although Tyson doesn’t seem to take good care of his birds, there are plenty of hobbyists that have *actual* bonds with their birds, take goods care of them, and take them to pigeon shows.
I dunno about evil, I think it's similar to how farmers view their important cattle, with some amount of affection and care but like Tyson said if they die unfortunately it's life but he also seems to care enough to miss having them around to the point where he'll go through loving and raisinh another group of pigeons with the knowledge that eventually they'll die too
@@thefluffyeasteregger I think he touched on how he sometimes doesn't know the best way to take care of all of them but I get the feeling he does try and does care a lot about his pigeons the possession thing was weird though maybe that was the brain damage talking?
@@leafboye33 Except that's not okay. Nonhunans aren't here for us. Treating them like a commodity is not okay. If people say "that's just life" when a human dies, people act like you're some heartless person. Well, we're no more important than other animals.
I actually have a pet pigeon and I can say that pigeons are heavily misunderstood birds. I don't condone pigeon racing or rolling pigeons, I love them as pets ❤ Edit: THANK YOU FOR THE LIKES HOLY MOLY!! 🥹
i used to volunteer at a wildlife rescue center that mainly rescued birds. there were a ton of all types of birds including a pigeon enclosure. a lot of my job was going through the various enclosures and making sure all the birds had food. you would be surprised how many diseases birds carry and how fast they would spread. you had to look out for birds exhibiting signs of sickness because of one got sick you could easily wipe out most of the birds in the rescue center. actually one time a disease did infect several ducks at the place and they had to be quarantined. unfortunately there was no cure for this disease so all we could do was take care of them until they passed :( but yea there are certain seasons were diseases spread more. very crazy world birds live in.
I grew up in a family of competitive pigeon racers. It's fun but you have to be dedicated to loving them to be part of it. I remember auctions where thousands of dollars are spent for these birds.
Mike says it was the first time he ever hit someone, and he learned at that age he was really, REALLY, good at fighting. If it makes you feel any better he beat the absolute shit out of that kid at 9, and by 12 he was fighting his bullies own fathers 😂. Legit he starting knocking grown men out at 12 years old.
@@Jimbo_Fett Oh dear lord...not that name 😭 nooooo don't make me remember. I repressed it for so long, because I had nightmares after hearing about it and the details. I can't believe people can be so...monstrous towards animals. They were here FIRST!! We domesticated pigeons, they especially don't deserve all the hate they get. They were abandoned by us humans after we developed methods for communication, and no longer needed "carrier pigeons", so they went extinct, whilst other pigeon breeds remained to suffer at the hands of us :(
13:40 As a farmer, I can relate to that. Sometimes you have a bad year (extra cold winter, A lion comes through, disease, etc) and half your chickens die off
As a owner of three beasts, I mean birds. It kinda made me sad to see the living conditions Tyson has for these pigeons, like the tiny tiny cages and not enough spacing for them to regularly exercise. He talks about loving them and being delicate while HULK grabs em. Idk man, I didn’t see much love from the birds side. Even my 2 oz budgies have more room then the single cage the pigeon lives in.
This! I don't know shit about keeping pidgeons but I do know a lot about reptiles and this feels like those people who have thousands of animals in enclosures that the animals can barely move around in, with no enrichment, lighting heating hides, whatever. They claim to love reptiles but treat them like objects and not intelligent individuals. It's sad to see
@@leovernon Birds and reptiles have a lot in common. Birds definitely need a ton of space and enrichment, the conditions he keeps them in are absolutely horrific :-((
@@leovernon hello fellow reptile lover! Yeah, 100% agree. He definitely reminds me of the type of reptile people that stuff them in tiny drawers and knowingly breed morphs with neurological conditions.
@@crystalgryphonas someone who adores fish where this type of stuff is also a common problem its really sad to see how common this is for pretty much any animal keeping :(
I feel its a similar hobby to horse or dog racing. Most people involved dont love the animals, they see them as money, even the cars people race in are treated better than some racing dogs after they “retire”
This documentary on Danny talking about pigeons was truly heartwarming. I loved how Danny talked about how Mike Tyson likes pigeons and how Mike wanted to possess the pigeons. I also liked that Danny wore a gray hoodie and a blue shirt in the video, resembling the feathers of some species of pigeons. I enjoyed the part of this documentary when Danny said he used to collect Pokémon cards. That part was truly relatable because I too used to collect jeans. This documentary also made me shed a tear. It was very heartwarming when that pigeon had Danny at gunpoint at 6:53. I rate this beautiful documentary 10/10. Truly amazing documentary, Danny. 👏👏 edit: baby greg’s gonna be a celebrity because his dad was on a documentary.
@@PeaceSaysHailey I agree! I felt the same way about your comment. So relatable, maybe too relatable. In conclusion, maybe your comment was a little too vague.
@@PeaceSaysHailey Hello, FallingPixie. I really enjoyed reading your comment. You make a great point that this comment resembles the construction of a post intended for a college discussion board. I believe it really adds to the video. I look forward to see you opinions for the remainder of the video.
despite some of the weird sh*t, i kinda relate to mike (which is something i never thought i'd say lol). since i was like 4-5 y/o i've had this weird obsession with pigeons, they've always fascinated me and kinda make me feel safe and happy whenever i see or hear them. it's my favorite sound to wake up to. when i was 9 i held a presentation about pigeons at school, and now at 22 i have a tattoo of one
As a fellow pigeon owner my bird is my pride and joy (as strange as that may seem) and it makes me sad to see the living conditions his birds live in, the small cages, and I assume the constant fear of getting grabbed by his giant hands. Additionally I get that he doesn't like white pigeons but he should still treat them equally to his non white birds, rather then adding more stress to their already stressful lives.
I grew up with my dad as a pigeon racer. He was very well known in Chicago. It’s an extremely time consuming and exhausting hobby to have. My dad would wake up about 4 or 5 am every morning to catch his birds and take them to where ever his job site was (he was a construction worker) and would let them go. There’s a band around their ankles that tracks what time they get back to the coop with a clock inside that gets the time and information. Each band has a list of information about the bird and who the owner is. Every weekend he would go to his little club and they would all race and place bets on who would win. My dad had trophies all over the house from all his winnings. He managed to train some of the best pigeons in Chicago and has sold a few of his top birds for thousands of dollars each. He had pedigrees and diplomas for every single bird he owned. They are really hard to maintain sometimes though. Especially in large numbers. He had over a hundred pigeons in multiple coops based on age, “the winners”/ flyers, show birds, and the breeding birds. They get a common repository disease, as well as something called coccidiosis, that I was taught how to sense and will mix in medication through the water for them to take over about a week hoping they’d get better. I had a *different* kind of childhood but I did learn a LOT because of him and his birds. EDIT: bro I just wanted to share some interesting facts about what I grew up around. Didn’t think it would get this heated 😖 I promise you my dad treated his birds with the best care. He could tell which bird was who just by looking at it. He had many types of medication and vitamins to help them if they were sick. My dad wasn’t a shit head who would just throw the birds away if they didn’t meet his expectations. He gave them the best of the best feed and made sure we knew how to take care of them before he let us help him. I genuinely just wanted some people to learn something new about pigeons but I guess not. I’m sorry if this upset anyone, I just wanted to share some of my childhood memories with GREG.
@@Lazy_.Lavender yeah it kinda is it's a super dangerous industry in which most racers are quite cruel to their pigeons; and even if they're not, not a lot of pigeons make it to their homes because the race routes are usually long and usual pigeons (especially if they weren't specifically bred for that purpose) aren't actually as wonderful at all this home finding stuff as you might think, they absolutely can get lost or eaten or even stolen
@@xylophone_8888 Aren't they raced by seperating mating pairs too? So basically they're 'racing' to find their friend? Whole thing just seems wrong to me.
@@Lazy_.Lavender definitely seems like it can be dangerous for the pigeons but honestly compared to the conditions that feral pigeons live in normally it’s not much worse
@@xylophone_8888 - Tbh it doesn’t sound bad to me. Most of the danger seems to come from the fact that they’re “racing” to fly home, but if they weren’t owned that’s just what their life would be. They’d be susceptible to being lost, eaten, or even stolen 100% of the time instead of just when they’re racing. I guess the “worst” part about their life as pets is that they’re being pushed to their physical limits, but that isn’t exactly abuse. Yeah I guess the owners could be cruel, but that’s true about literally every potential pet owner.
I actually had a thought run through my head about Danny's being a responsible person for labelling that the images were made by an AI... Then I watched for another 30 seconds
when i was little i used to have a pet pigeon named ebony. my family and i never kept her in a cage, she just kinda liked hanging out in our backyard and would always be there whenever we went outside. eventually she made a nest, laid eggs, raised her chicks, and flew away. i hope ebony and her kids are alright EDIT: Y'ALL ARE HILARIOUS IN THE REPLIES HAHAHAHA
I dunno man, how long ago was this? May be better - or more realistic - to hope that the chickies, grandchicks and greatgrandchicks found their own gardens to nest in, and delight and inspire a whole new generation of kids.
@@guij666 hi my name is Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Pigeon Way and I have black feathers with purple and red streaks ( that’s how I got my name) and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell my I look like if Amy Lee was a pigeon (AN: if you don’t know who she is get da hell out of here) I’m a pigeon but my teeth are straight and white. I’m a goth (in case you couldn’t tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Pigeon Topic and I buy all my clothes from there. I was walking outside Hogwarts. It was snowing and raining so there was no sun, which I was very happy about. A lot of prep humans stared at me. I put up my middle claw up at them.
Holy shit i remember seeing a bit of this documentary like 10 years ago ( i was maybe 11) it was trasnlated to french, and the part about ripping the pigeon's head traumatized me sm i still think about it sometimes, but i never knew it was a documentary about mike tyson
I love pigeons. When I was in Toronto last September, I saw the most beautiful pigeons just chilling all over the city ❤ I took so many photos of beautiful pigeons
I oddly relate to him when he said he just wanted to have pigeons as a kid. Like when I was little, I'd walk down the street and see a bird. And just. The urge to just. Grab one. Was immense.
yo i gotta give props to my man mike. it is completely silly, but i myself have experienced this phenomenon. i started taking care of a flock of pigeons and doves to the point they mingled together and had hybrid babies. they did recognize me on the street so i had a flock of birds following me around the hood. for how silly it sounds, once you get into it it becomes an obsession.
I personally love pigeons and love hearing everyone’s little pigeon stories. I understand that his handling of the birds is definitely completely wrong , yet I feel as though he genuinely loves them and maybe with the right guidance could learn to more carefully and safely take of the lil guys
Pigeons are my favorite creatures! They are incredibly smart and have the capacity to bond deeply with other animals and humans. They are treated like garbage by humans even though we bred, trained and cared for them for so long. I always love how you are so willing to understand and don’t typically just judge something weird off the bat in general but you’re openness to the idea of pigeons being lovable makes me so happy! I am getting a pigeon tattoo in May and I have officially decided he will be named Greg now
This video unlocked a memory of being in a tent full of show pigeons, looking at one with frills and a fanned-out tail, and being told it was a tumbling pigeon, because that is a thing they do I guess.
One of my professors at my local community college engineered and bred pigeons as a side hobby and showed them at "pigeon pageants". He was even featured on Vice and is in the National Pigeon Association Hall of Fame. Dude is literally famous in the pigeon world. The pigeon rabbit hole (pigeon hole??) goes DEEP.
@@rodmunch6865 There’s a scene of a grown man pretending to jack off a baby. Also has a scene of a dude actually humping* a tiger. Pretty sure it was also pretty racist and definitely sexist.
I actually did know that mike Tyson had a bunch of pet pigeons as a kid. I heard that he got into his first fight because a bully hurt his bird or something. Definitely didn’t know he was still into them to such an extent
Pigeons are a common pet (both rescue and breeding). My best friend has 2 pigeons and theyre both adorable. Also it's worth mentioning that most people that like pigeons absolutely HATE pigeon racing because that is now looked at as borderline abuse within the pigeon community (again, best friend owns pigeons, ive learned a thing or two). A comparison would be dog lovers who hate dog fighting, pigeon racing is the equivalent of that for pigeon lovers (or bird lovers in general).
Those are pretty close to my thoughts. There's a lot of animal racing and shows and they can get pretty extreme. But nothing really comes close to dog fighting. it's in a league of it's own. When I see stuff like this, I go "hmmmm." But dog fighting makes me want to bury the entire human race in a pyroclastic flow. Like, Pompeii this mess. The human race does not deserve the world we are given. This makes me go "hmmm." but, ultimately, like barn cats and hunting dogs they are honestly probably still better off than they would be in the wild even if it's just by a hair. I suppose it's why it lives in that little grey area, eh. Sort of like organic animal farming. I have a lot of farmer friends that won't do it because it involved grey area animal pain. Even if there is money in it. Like, raising chickens without antibiotics just means that when they get sick, you have to kill them. so it ups the stakes like a lot. so, IDK. I definitely believe that people who famiily farm without antibiotics still probably love their chickens
@@skylahenry8552 It looks like it's because of how much stress it puts on the birds. Mike Tyson even says in the documentary that PETA was after him for his bird flying more than x-amount of miles. Because it would be considered abuse. From what I looked at; it looks like there's an average 22% survival rate for the birds that compete. And that the bird community dislikes the racing like they dislike Rooster fighting.
I would compare pigeon lovers hating pigeon racing to real dog lovers hating dog shows. Dog fighting isn't legal at all, but dog shows are, and it's quite concerning how many dogs go unconscious or even die on their way to said shows. Not to mention how many of them go through abuse just to look pretty for others to see. Decades of cross breeding have also caused issues. Breeds like the French Bulldog, Cavaliere King Spaniel, and the Pug are unfortunate examples of irresponsible breeding.
As a Brooklyn guy, "that guy has birds, that guy had birds, they were show birds" means they were trained birds to signal when cops were raiding or rolling through. Clapping, whistling, flags, lots of ways to train them. Brownsville was loaded with kids who sad on rooves and corners signaling
Owning a lot of animals does not equate to loving them. It’s concerning watching Mike grab at those poor birds so aggressively and poking at the caged one.
I will say a lot of times you do have to be kind of quick with birds, especially if you don't spend a lot of time with whichever bird in particular you're trying to interact with. If you've never tried to pick up a chicken, it's basically the same concept. You just kinda have to sneak up on them and grab. Some are more willing but just like any cat or dog, sometimes they like being picked up and sometimes they don't.
Mike had pigeons as pets before starting to breed them for races. Mike loved pigeons. I hate that people won't stop seeing every single thing he does as suspect, or second guessing.
How am I supposed to know we are going to get silly and wacky if Danny isn't drinking sparkling water? My goofometer is off the charts but I have no idea why
"Someone ripped the head off my bird" is the most valid, legitimate reason for getting in a fight I've ever heard
real
i love the idea that someone has never heard of the concept of self-defense before but they have made it thru life to the point they've seen the mike tyson pigeon docu and been like ¨uhh yeaaaaa that's a good reason¨
@@baintreachas what 😭😭
that's it?
That’s why I’ve gotten into fights with my dad, and I can confirm it’s a valid reason 🫡
I love the thought of someone not knowing who he is, and just thinking he is a friendly, little pigeon lover
that is me I am that someone
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Pigeons have historically treated Mike Tyson a lot better than humans have.
I had to write an essay over a sports star and I didn't know who Mike Tyson was and when I did my research I was horrified, still wrote it about him tho
Mike Tyson seems very kind and nice. I'm going to have a friendly boxing match with him.
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The fact that Danny missed the “Birdglars” stealing birds from an old lady joke makes me deeply worried for his mental health.
And when he said "ties in" instead of "ties on"(tyson) in 12:06 . Though that's a more kurtis joke
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i was raised in a tough neighbourhood and the toughest guy who everyone respected and feared was a pigeon guy. he ruled that neighbourhood fully, one whistle and he had a whole army of pigeons behind him
why did i chuckle at this
I have a story: I was bullied in primary school, and I was crying so I sat on a bench and just talked to a pigeon. (Don’t ask me why, I was like 6). Then, the pigeon flew away. I was so upset. But, suddenly, the bully just ran past me screaming. THE PIGEON WAS LITERALLY CHASING HIM AWAYY
@@dunkiel4014 omg bless that pigeon and i relate to talking to pigeons at the ripe age of 25 so
@@spookeymo lmao ye
@@spookeymo it died
I don't know how this didn't come up in the video, but Mike Tyson had an animated TV show where he also raises pigeons, one of whom talks and is voiced by Norm Macdonald. Needless to say, it was about Mike Tyson going around solving mysteries with the talking pigeon, his adopted Korean daughter, and the ghost of a 19th century British noble.
THAT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE
i love mike tyson mysteries. it’s hilarious
for some reason the only thing I remember from the animated show is a pigeon with Mike Tysons tattoo.
Thank you for saying this!!!! I used to watch this show all the time
@@certifiedboghopper9622 it’s a very fun show to watch 💪🏾
"Pigeons are born to fly that's why God gave them wings" - Wise Old Man
I wonder if he can say the same about Chickens too 💀
So true ❤
@@blending_in God just didn't fuck with chickens
@@shotaaizawaslay nor did he with ostriches
@@IAmSchwi nor penguins
Omg 😢 this is super heartbreaking actually. As a bird nerd myself I work at a parrot rescue and while not the same as pigeons, the main thing we are taught is to learn to read a birds body language and to never strong arm them or force them to do things they don’t want and interaction with us should be a calm fun experience. Pigeons are super smart and I’ve seen people with ones that ACTUALLY love them and are bonded to them and the pigeons will actually come to them and cuddle with them and do tricks. He is absolutely terrorizing those birds. All birds are extremely messy and lots of work having 1k is insanity no wonder they die of illness so often and that’s even worse bc that man has plenty of money to care for a reasonable amount and get vet care. Anyone who loves a certain animal is not going to feed that animal to a hawk even if they aren’t their favorite color or even if they aren’t friendly! He owns lots of exotic animals too I can only imagine the horrors they suffer. Hate to say I’m with peta on this one. Feels like a fever dream.
I dont know anything about pidgeon care but I'm glad to know that I'm right in that these birds are terribly mistreated. I am very interested in like reptile husbandry and keeping them as pets and while it is different I feel like there are some overlaps, proper amounts of space, enrichment, cleanliness, space from each other if being kept together and most importantly just respecting an animals boundaries. And I don't think it takes someone who's interested in pet husbandry to realize that these animals boundaries don't even cross his mind. The way he just grabbed that bird was so upsetting omg. And personally there are some reptile morphs that I'm just not a fan of but it really doesn't matter at all. Those animals deserve just as much respect as any other coloration. And a pet bird (like a white one) being more vulnerable to predation wouldn't be an issue if you took proper safety measures. I know albino reptiles that are so common in the pet trade wouldnt last a day outside but it doesn't matter when you protect your pets!! Also I'm sorry but there is no way in hell one person have thousands of pet birds in different locations without mistreating them. I hate how many people claim to be animal lovers but treat animals as objects not individuals, and that's what he's doing.
I can't believe he has so many, the amount of work it takes to just take car eof ONE bird is insane, I feel so bad for them. I'm not even a bird owner, but I've taken temporary care of pigeons before, and it's heartbreaking how often they are neglected and roughly handled.
THE WAY HE POKED IT TOO?!?!!?!! I was almost in tears when I saw that interview. That bird was scared out of its mind, poor little baby! It looks like he hurt it!
Yeah, as the video went on it went from “aw, he cares so much about his birds :)” to “oh no”, ending in “well that was horrifying”. Those animals are blatantly abused and he sees them as disposable. He legitimately was just terrorizing that bird at the end because he wasn’t fond of the color, that is the exact opposite of love and care. And he was willing to do that on TV! I can’t imagine what goes on off camera.
Apparently pigeons do have to be strong armed, or more technical, you have to be confident when grabbing. It seems Mike might not know what he’s doing which is sad tbh, he obviously loves and cares for them but I think he’s not the brightest. I hope it was more staged than what we saw.
“Why won’t this pigeon follow me back to my house because I want it to??” Is a genuine regular thought I’ve had when trying to catch and destring or rescue feral pigeons that 100% know what I’m up to. The pigeons definitely know Mike, mine (who are a wild flock) know me and my schedule and wait for me at the same time each day (& probably warn the others that I catch the ones with f***ed up / tangled feet, who avoid me like the plague). There’s a weirdly large amount of bird rescuers in large cities who teach each other to catch, treat and release pigeons back to their flocks. Mike has some Stuff going on to say it extremely lightly but still, great video!
aww thats cool
Pigeons are such cool animals, it great that you spend time helping them!
@@cwahlb1 Oh yeah, it's coo.
I found a pigeon that wasn't a baby but wasn't fully developed. It couldn't quite fly. It was almost 100° f outside and that little buddy wasn't doing well at all. It climbed straight into my lap and climbed on my shoulder. I brought it upstairs gave it water and some peas. Every day we practiced trying to fly and pigeon friend spent hours outside in a safe tree and come in for some cool air and water. When the sun's was going down pigeon friend would jump out of the tree into my arms and refuse to leave. So I'd bring it upstairs and it would sleep all night. This went for almost a week until pigeon friend was strong enough to fly. It did visit me one time after though. I called to it by it's name Pigeonella/o. And it came to me. But only that once. After that it would look at me when I'd call it's name but not come to me. Which makes me happy. Good little pigeon friend❤
Why did I read that as "when trying to catch and destroy or rescue pigeons" 😭
Fun fact: Pigeons were never wild. They were bred specifically as domestic pets. But then people got bored of them and abandoned them, leaving them to become wild.
They're awesome little birds. I love them sm.
Same! I've spent a lot of time observing and listening to them, and they're so complex ! I help them when I can, but wish more animal rescues would do so.
There are technically a handful of wild populations of truly wild rock doves/pigeons but yeah you're pretty much right that all the pigeons we see are ferals :)
That's kinda tragic. I feel like there would be a movie about that...
Don't want to burst your bubble, but the now extinct Passenger Pigeon was nothing but wild. They were killed off by hunters who placed smudge pots under the trees at night and gassed them into extinction. Today we still have the Band-Tailed Pigeon which is another totally wild breed. Get Levi's book, "The Pigeon" and get educated. No offense.
@@RwC42 I'm pretty sure the OP was referring to rock doves/Columba livia. There are hundreds of pigeon and dove species if we're technically speaking.
honestly, Danny saying "should I get into pigeons?" because he saw a pretty bird was so relatable.
i dont wanna be that guy but.. 756 likes.. no comments..
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@@soda13a dont wanna be that giy but... we commented at different times so it has a different amount of likes..
@@imdelet dont wanna be that guy but its actually 840* now
I just asked my dad “Hey dad, did you know that Mike Tyson has like thousands of pigeons?” And he said “Yeah, he’s always done that” LIKE EXCUSE ME WHAT
"Maybe I don't know the right way to care for them, but..." No buts, Mikes. LEARN.
Pigeons are actually one of the only bird species classed as domesticated (besides poultry and some others)--that's why they're called feral pigeons instead of wild pigeons, and can only really survive in cities and not in the wild. Not even parrots are considered domesticated as a species. That's why it's so sad that pigeons are treated like they are and seen as pests instead of the companions they were for centuries. They're incredibly smart, loyal, and kind. I'd like to adopt one some day, but I already have a rescue parrot, so I'm not sure if they could be compatible (especially in terms of spreading diseases to each other).
I'm glad Danny made this video and didn't shit on pigeons/owning pigeons as a whole (just raising some justifiable concerns about how Mike Tyson may do it).
*insert mike tyson grabbing pigeon clip here*
i remember reading somewhere that just like crows etc, pigeons can remember human faces.
@@vijoko they can remember shapes, colours, and my pigeon has even learned how to untie knots!! honestly I think mine is even smarter than my dog 😅
If you have a garden, and keep the pidgeons outside and the parrot inside, you should be okay. They don’t necessarily have to be pets either; there’s a lady in my town center who lets local pidgeons roost in her garden shed, and she feeds them and rehabs the sick ones. They’re still free, they’re not ‘hers’ per se, but they do seem to have a bond, and she’s able to help a far larger number than if she had one or two or even a flock of ringed birds.
Also, I think there’s a difference. We have a “town” pidgeon who visits our garden, but also a pair of wood pidgeons who nest in one tree and they’re very different. The wood pidgeon is way bigger and looks quite different; he doesn’t like the town pidgeon and if townie comes near the feeder he chases him off 😂
As a New Yorker I can confirm that I am constantly enraged that pigeons aren’t following me home and following my every order
As an Alabamian I wish there were more pigeons in my area
Instead, I get mourning doves
DANNY, mike tyson's cartoon about his pigeon is WILD: ruclips.net/video/6WFrBwSzCmk/видео.html
@@SageGilbert191 They are sooo adorable but serverly loud for no reason
@@SageGilbert191 As a Kansan, same here. I absolutely love them though, it makes me feel safe if that makes any sense at all.
@@WhileMyGuineaPigGentlyWheeks we need to capture all pigeons so we can have them for ourselves
Pigeons are like actually incredible- they have a sort of magnetic sense in their heads that allows them to know exactly how to fly home even if they don't know where they are or how they got there. The reason they are in cities is because they're honestly domestic birds. They rely on humans a lot and have learned how to do so in the most effective ways possible. Plus just look at em! They're adorable man what's not to love!!
I really like the idea of the show runners really wanting to do a documentary about Mike Tyson, being thrilled he said yes, and then having to change basically any idea's they had for it and having to put all their efforts into making this a decent documentary about pigeon racing because mike Tyson simply refused to talk about anything else.
“I don’t want to hurt this guy but it’s the only way to get my pigeons back”
Laughed so hard I’m actually in pain
I think that Danny really needs to adopt his own pigeons. He seems wayyyyy too into this to just be a bystander lol.
my grandfather actually sold pigeons to Mike Tyson. he also sold pigeons to some rapper but he forgot their name. I thought my mom was lying until she showed me pictures of him and Mike together.
That is cool, but he shouldn’t not have sold the pigeons to Mike Tyson
the other rapper was tupac obviously
“Pigeons have wings so they’re born to fly”
Penguins, emus and ostriches: 👁️👄👁️
Penguins evolved wings for flying underwater it's the long legs that got screwed.
pppaaarrrrootttttssss, crows, owls, bees, mosquitoes…..
well, how about... chickens?
@@TylerB-my1kr dam your right
@@artelee8145 chickens can fly? it’s just people usually clip their wings. but like my friend is too lazy to clip her chickens wings, so they literally sleep in trees.
the way danny narrates this documentary is genuinely so delightful, i love this framing that mike tyson views the world thru pigeon-colored lenses. honestly, this video is just a documentary in of itself
First class profile picture my dude 🎉
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Mike Ryson made a WILD cartoon about him and pigeons ruclips.net/video/i8cyxx5WuKQ/видео.html You're welcome.
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I’m crying with laughter. Started at the line “we live in the Mike Tyson pigeon universe” and just has not ended
4:24 Danny yelling “No! We don’t know!…Do we?!?! DO YOU GUYS KNOW?” Is me all the time
Pigeons are much more intelligent than we give them credit for! They can recognize themselves in the mirror and even in some pictures and videos, can do basic math to the same level as some primates, and remember faces. In fact, their visual memory is much better than a humans, and they can remember specific images for years. I have two pigeons of my own, and they’re incredibly lovely. They enjoy watching tv and playing with bells. :)
this was too cute. they like playing with bells.
They can do math?!
Dumb people can do stuff like that too
You know, I'm not much of a parrot person, not in a way that I want to have one as a pet because they can be loud, so maybe I should get some pigeons one day 😂 I do like their cooing.
For clarity, I'm joking, I wouldn't buy a pet I know nothing about. Do your research, even on dog breeds, before adopting a pet!
@@Vicieron I read this as balls 💀
In fairness with avian flu, he literally could face times when 1000s of pigeons suddenly die. I can kind of relate to Mike on this one (in some ways). I had a pet dove and she was very sweet. We had her for almost 20 years then she met a tragic end.🕊
This is so sweet, sorry for your loss 😢 I’m sure she was a lovely dove
The avian flu doesn't affect pidgeons as badly as other birds. We have 200 free flyers and not one case. They don't get it ad easily nor do they pass it on to others
@@may3877 heh heh lovey dovey
how tragic can a TWENTY YEAR OLD bird die?
Ending that with "she met a tragic end" is really ominous
11:06 ppl in the Pokemon universe who skipped the catching tutorial
13:05 old women getting their pigeons stolen by bird-gulars missed opportunity
As a pigeon whisperer, I can say with confidence that pigeon do rumble
Prrru prrru
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I read this as “pigeon worshipper”
Please explain this sentence. The words provided are not enough for us to understand the magnitude of it. We need you to E X P E N E D .
@@ccchhheeennn2"__________ whisperer" is a colloquialism used to indicate that the person is good at understanding the behavior of whichever animal goes in the ___________
Am I going insane? I just now asked my brother “hey do you know Mike Tyson’s hobby?” And he literally just answered “yeah, pigeons” so nonchalantly??? Like hello??? Why is this common knowledge???
it certainly wasn’t to me either
Is he a fight fan? My YT is like 60% MMA & boxing/Muay Thai so I knew about Mike’s hobby for years now
@@AJayZy I mean not really? I guess he did do boxing but he rarely watches it
@@lovem7105 Ah but if boxes even a little then Mike is way too relevant for him not to know so there ya go
i remember there being some kind of special about it on animal planet? because i definitely don’t watch any fighting and i knew about the pigeons for some reason
I used to work in a small town Post Office and we had a "pigeon guy". He would drop off his pigeons to be MAILED to people around the country so they could race. He actually won a lot of money from a few races!
The pigeons would scare the crap out of me because I swear they only made noise when it was quiet, and I had forgotten they were in there!
As a beekeeper, losing tens of thousands of bees is something that can and will happen, we just do our best to prevent that. Nature is rough, but they out-pace the losses in normal circumstances.
As a person who loves pigeons I wanna add that pigeon racing is considered cruel because of the stress put on the birds and low survival rates (by predators, vehicles or getting lost)
not to mention the famous pigeon races that take place over the ocean where the birds can't even land without dying.
Oh that’s sad. I wonder why mike Tyson does it
@@alexisb3829 I mean it’s not like Mike Tyson is a good guy, he’s just famous. He has hurt many people especially women
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@@alexisb3829 Probably because it's heavily debated. Since although race pigeons do have lower survival rates they also are in average more stable mentally, have lower depression and tend to bond very well, etc. There's other reasons for the debate too, especially with more modern racers that focus on other stuff than pure distance and make it saver and less stressful (even though the stress level is under debate too).
Personally I am on neither side, but I do understand both.
One of my best friends is super passionate about pigeons and I'm glad to see people in the comments recognizing that they're domestic animals! They were entirely bred by humans and it's really sad to see a lot of people's attitudes towards them :(
Yep! All of the pigeons in the world are not wild, they are feral! It's wild!! Edited: I mean, it's not wild. It's very much domestic.
@@mandapannts lol
this!! rlly common in cuba
I’m not surprised. I watched Mike Tyson Mysteries. Man dedicated Norm MacDonald’s entire character to be a Pigeon names Pigeon. RIP Norm MacDonald, you were one of the greatest comedians to ever live, man. Not enough people recognized your talent. But I loved you since My Name is Earl.
My grandfather used to shoot pigeons off of his roof because he didn't want bird poop on his roof. As a kid, I asked him about it, and he said they were blanks to just scare them away. When I got older and asked my family about it.....uh yeah, they were not blanks.😮😮😮
Wouldn't matter if they were blanks or not. Pigeons wouldn't survive a blank to the flank.
Could have been scatter shot, super common for scaring birds off
I used to volunteer at a bird sanctuary and we had a really angry pigeon named Mike Tyson. He had little boxing gloves in his cage!
That is absolutely amazing.
Truly one of the most life changing things I ever heard was that he started boxing seriously bc a bully killed his bird right in front of him. That’s the first time he beat the absolute hell out of someone and realized that even though he was small, he could fight. I haven’t finished the video yet- I’m sure you mention it- but if not it’s what it sounds like, some street thug came up to him on the street to taunt him, and he (mike) was holding the pigeon, and the guy took his pigeon and broke his beloved birds neck. I’ve heard him say another time the kid pulled the birds head off, either way, Mike grew up in the hood and didn’t have much and his pigeons (he used to train even the street pigeons) were his most prized possession and solace and seriously that story breaks my heart….
But it’s like a real true honest joker origin story lol like he said he saw red and then he just became the knockout king 😂😂😂😂😂
I think he's proof tough people can change and grow in to kinder, gentler people
❤ i also loved him in The Hangover😂
@@melaniesheldon8013 He's proof that the people who are the best in their field always have anime origin stories.
@@melaniesheldon8013he’s also a convicted rapist.
@@mauirandall8176 bro someone gifted him a pigeon and he said it was a shit bird he was gonna feed to his hawk 💀
@@ClurTaylor and he's also massively grown for the better as a person in the last 30 years
7:59 i immediately searched for “competitive knitting” in the search bar for some reason lmaooo
14:16 this is how beekeepers talk about their hives 😭
I always wondered why one of the main characters in his adult swim show was a pigeon but it makes way more sense now
OH SHIT that makes soooo much more sense now
This is exactly what I was thinking. Lol.
The entire time I was watching this, I kept imagining Norm McDonald trying to put himself in a oven
Didn't he also have more pigeons in his backyard on that show?
@@nadiat.8419 yep
Who wouldn't be obsessed with pigeons? They're adorable, fun to watch, and smarter than we give them credit for.
Agreed. They just terrify me when they spontaneously fly near me or towards me when I'm minding my own business, it scares the shit outta me. (ಥ ͜ʖಥ)
i love pigeons !!!!!!!
and eat my fucking chips grrrrrrrr
I wouldn’t be obsessed with them. And… adorable? No. Fun to watch? They only fly and walk around for scraps
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shut the f uck up
pigeons like the 3rd best animal
Yo it's like none of y'all knew Mike Tyson had an animated tv show where he solved crimes with a pet pigeon
12:00 10/10 sand edit 👌
pigeons were bred by humans to carry messages, and with technology we essentially abandoned them. rock pigeons were the earliest domesticated bird. i’m glad they are still beloved by some.
edit: okay, they aren’t treated well by tyson. there are luckily some in the comments who do love their pet pigeons, at least.
Yeah he’s kinda evil about it. I’m totally planning on getting a pet pigeon when I turn like 20
Yea. Although Tyson doesn’t seem to take good care of his birds, there are plenty of hobbyists that have *actual* bonds with their birds, take goods care of them, and take them to pigeon shows.
I dunno about evil, I think it's similar to how farmers view their important cattle, with some amount of affection and care but like Tyson said if they die unfortunately it's life but he also seems to care enough to miss having them around to the point where he'll go through loving and raisinh another group of pigeons with the knowledge that eventually they'll die too
@@thefluffyeasteregger I think he touched on how he sometimes doesn't know the best way to take care of all of them but I get the feeling he does try and does care a lot about his pigeons
the possession thing was weird though maybe that was the brain damage talking?
@@leafboye33 Except that's not okay. Nonhunans aren't here for us. Treating them like a commodity is not okay. If people say "that's just life" when a human dies, people act like you're some heartless person. Well, we're no more important than other animals.
I actually have a pet pigeon and I can say that pigeons are heavily misunderstood birds. I don't condone pigeon racing or rolling pigeons, I love them as pets ❤
Edit: THANK YOU FOR THE LIKES HOLY MOLY!! 🥹
Aww!!! I’ve always wanted to be a pigeon/dove mom ❤️ Lots of love to you and your Pigeon!
@@WhileMyGuineaPigGentlyWheeksTopaz and I send love to you as well! ❤🕊
And super connected to human history, extremely interesting to look into that relationship.
@@garrulus3399They are amazing birds 😄
You may feel differently if you lived in NYC.
i used to volunteer at a wildlife rescue center that mainly rescued birds. there were a ton of all types of birds including a pigeon enclosure. a lot of my job was going through the various enclosures and making sure all the birds had food. you would be surprised how many diseases birds carry and how fast they would spread. you had to look out for birds exhibiting signs of sickness because of one got sick you could easily wipe out most of the birds in the rescue center. actually one time a disease did infect several ducks at the place and they had to be quarantined. unfortunately there was no cure for this disease so all we could do was take care of them until they passed :( but yea there are certain seasons were diseases spread more. very crazy world birds live in.
I grew up in a family of competitive pigeon racers. It's fun but you have to be dedicated to loving them to be part of it. I remember auctions where thousands of dollars are spent for these birds.
The story of the guy killing his pigeon in front of him was so so sad. I can’t imagine someone murdering my pet in front of me 😢
Mike says it was the first time he ever hit someone, and he learned at that age he was really, REALLY, good at fighting. If it makes you feel any better he beat the absolute shit out of that kid at 9, and by 12 he was fighting his bullies own fathers 😂. Legit he starting knocking grown men out at 12 years old.
His girlfriend or, I guess ex also killed his pigeon.. I think they cooked the pigeon too
@@foxwithuke_ What the hell!? Who kills and cooks a pigeon!?
@@ToxicXeia I have a rabbit hole for you. If you’re familiar with Chris chan, the girl that got him locked up has done much worse things to hamsters
@@Jimbo_Fett Oh dear lord...not that name 😭 nooooo don't make me remember. I repressed it for so long, because I had nightmares after hearing about it and the details.
I can't believe people can be so...monstrous towards animals. They were here FIRST!! We domesticated pigeons, they especially don't deserve all the hate they get. They were abandoned by us humans after we developed methods for communication, and no longer needed "carrier pigeons", so they went extinct, whilst other pigeon breeds remained to suffer at the hands of us :(
Nothing Mike Tyson does can surprise me anymore. That man could own a T rex and I would be like "yeah that checks out"
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That clip of Mike Tyson grabbing the bird with all his strength is the hardest I’ve laughed in a while
13:40 As a farmer, I can relate to that. Sometimes you have a bad year (extra cold winter, A lion comes through, disease, etc) and half your chickens die off
A lion? Eats your chickens? Do you live in the savanna?
@@Camsvfx_ sorry I mean mountain lion
As a owner of three beasts, I mean birds. It kinda made me sad to see the living conditions Tyson has for these pigeons, like the tiny tiny cages and not enough spacing for them to regularly exercise. He talks about loving them and being delicate while HULK grabs em. Idk man, I didn’t see much love from the birds side. Even my 2 oz budgies have more room then the single cage the pigeon lives in.
This! I don't know shit about keeping pidgeons but I do know a lot about reptiles and this feels like those people who have thousands of animals in enclosures that the animals can barely move around in, with no enrichment, lighting heating hides, whatever. They claim to love reptiles but treat them like objects and not intelligent individuals. It's sad to see
@@leovernon Birds and reptiles have a lot in common. Birds definitely need a ton of space and enrichment, the conditions he keeps them in are absolutely horrific :-((
@@leovernon hello fellow reptile lover! Yeah, 100% agree. He definitely reminds me of the type of reptile people that stuff them in tiny drawers and knowingly breed morphs with neurological conditions.
@@crystalgryphonas someone who adores fish where this type of stuff is also a common problem its really sad to see how common this is for pretty much any animal keeping :(
I feel its a similar hobby to horse or dog racing. Most people involved dont love the animals, they see them as money, even the cars people race in are treated better than some racing dogs after they “retire”
This documentary on Danny talking about pigeons was truly heartwarming. I loved how Danny talked about how Mike Tyson likes pigeons and how Mike wanted to possess the pigeons. I also liked that Danny wore a gray hoodie and a blue shirt in the video, resembling the feathers of some species of pigeons. I enjoyed the part of this documentary when Danny said he used to collect Pokémon cards. That part was truly relatable because I too used to collect jeans. This documentary also made me shed a tear. It was very heartwarming when that pigeon had Danny at gunpoint at 6:53. I rate this beautiful documentary 10/10. Truly amazing documentary, Danny. 👏👏
edit: baby greg’s gonna be a celebrity because his dad was on a documentary.
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@@PeaceSaysHailey I agree! I felt the same way about your comment. So relatable, maybe too relatable. In conclusion, maybe your comment was a little too vague.
@@PeaceSaysHailey Hello, FallingPixie. I really enjoyed reading your comment. You make a great point that this comment resembles the construction of a post intended for a college discussion board. I believe it really adds to the video. I look forward to see you opinions for the remainder of the video.
You know, I read this before watching and thought it was a shitpost
I don't know how to feel knowing it's not
despite some of the weird sh*t, i kinda relate to mike (which is something i never thought i'd say lol). since i was like 4-5 y/o i've had this weird obsession with pigeons, they've always fascinated me and kinda make me feel safe and happy whenever i see or hear them. it's my favorite sound to wake up to. when i was 9 i held a presentation about pigeons at school, and now at 22 i have a tattoo of one
As a fellow pigeon owner my bird is my pride and joy (as strange as that may seem) and it makes me sad to see the living conditions his birds live in, the small cages, and I assume the constant fear of getting grabbed by his giant hands. Additionally I get that he doesn't like white pigeons but he should still treat them equally to his non white birds, rather then adding more stress to their already stressful lives.
I grew up with my dad as a pigeon racer. He was very well known in Chicago. It’s an extremely time consuming and exhausting hobby to have. My dad would wake up about 4 or 5 am every morning to catch his birds and take them to where ever his job site was (he was a construction worker) and would let them go. There’s a band around their ankles that tracks what time they get back to the coop with a clock inside that gets the time and information. Each band has a list of information about the bird and who the owner is. Every weekend he would go to his little club and they would all race and place bets on who would win. My dad had trophies all over the house from all his winnings. He managed to train some of the best pigeons in Chicago and has sold a few of his top birds for thousands of dollars each. He had pedigrees and diplomas for every single bird he owned.
They are really hard to maintain sometimes though. Especially in large numbers. He had over a hundred pigeons in multiple coops based on age, “the winners”/ flyers, show birds, and the breeding birds. They get a common repository disease, as well as something called coccidiosis, that I was taught how to sense and will mix in medication through the water for them to take over about a week hoping they’d get better.
I had a *different* kind of childhood but I did learn a LOT because of him and his birds.
EDIT: bro I just wanted to share some interesting facts about what I grew up around. Didn’t think it would get this heated 😖 I promise you my dad treated his birds with the best care. He could tell which bird was who just by looking at it. He had many types of medication and vitamins to help them if they were sick. My dad wasn’t a shit head who would just throw the birds away if they didn’t meet his expectations. He gave them the best of the best feed and made sure we knew how to take care of them before he let us help him. I genuinely just wanted some people to learn something new about pigeons but I guess not. I’m sorry if this upset anyone, I just wanted to share some of my childhood memories with GREG.
No offense but isn't that abuse towards the pigeons
@@Lazy_.Lavender yeah it kinda is
it's a super dangerous industry in which most racers are quite cruel to their pigeons; and even if they're not, not a lot of pigeons make it to their homes because the race routes are usually long and usual pigeons (especially if they weren't specifically bred for that purpose) aren't actually as wonderful at all this home finding stuff as you might think, they absolutely can get lost or eaten or even stolen
@@xylophone_8888 Aren't they raced by seperating mating pairs too? So basically they're 'racing' to find their friend? Whole thing just seems wrong to me.
@@Lazy_.Lavender definitely seems like it can be dangerous for the pigeons but honestly compared to the conditions that feral pigeons live in normally it’s not much worse
@@xylophone_8888 - Tbh it doesn’t sound bad to me. Most of the danger seems to come from the fact that they’re “racing” to fly home, but if they weren’t owned that’s just what their life would be. They’d be susceptible to being lost, eaten, or even stolen 100% of the time instead of just when they’re racing. I guess the “worst” part about their life as pets is that they’re being pushed to their physical limits, but that isn’t exactly abuse.
Yeah I guess the owners could be cruel, but that’s true about literally every potential pet owner.
Never thought this would be something Danny talked about but I'm glad he did
Shut up you didn't watch the entire video
I choked on my food when he grabbed the pigeon I wasn’t expecting that bahahha
I actually had a thought run through my head about Danny's being a responsible person for labelling that the images were made by an AI... Then I watched for another 30 seconds
I'm glad I'm not the only kid that was obsessed with collecting Pokémon cards but had no idea how to play
At one point I didn't even know it was a game I thought it was just something you collect
@@moistsquish LOL same! 😂
me too
Wait do people who know how to play even exist?
That was most everyone that collected cards, who tf cares about the game? 😂
when i was little i used to have a pet pigeon named ebony. my family and i never kept her in a cage, she just kinda liked hanging out in our backyard and would always be there whenever we went outside. eventually she made a nest, laid eggs, raised her chicks, and flew away. i hope ebony and her kids are alright
EDIT: Y'ALL ARE HILARIOUS IN THE REPLIES HAHAHAHA
I dunno man, how long ago was this? May be better - or more realistic - to hope that the chickies, grandchicks and greatgrandchicks found their own gardens to nest in, and delight and inspire a whole new generation of kids.
Ebony Dementia Pigeon Way
@@guij666 hi my name is Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Pigeon Way and I have black feathers with purple and red streaks ( that’s how I got my name) and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell my I look like if Amy Lee was a pigeon (AN: if you don’t know who she is get da hell out of here) I’m a pigeon but my teeth are straight and white. I’m a goth (in case you couldn’t tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Pigeon Topic and I buy all my clothes from there. I was walking outside Hogwarts. It was snowing and raining so there was no sun, which I was very happy about. A lot of prep humans stared at me. I put up my middle claw up at them.
@@xXAcidBathXx this absolute masterpiece combined with that stunning name just restored my faith in humanity
@@xXAcidBathXx damn I forgot the dark’ness part 🤙🏻😔 I’m a fake fan
Holy shit i remember seeing a bit of this documentary like 10 years ago ( i was maybe 11) it was trasnlated to french, and the part about ripping the pigeon's head traumatized me sm i still think about it sometimes, but i never knew it was a documentary about mike tyson
I love pigeons. When I was in Toronto last September, I saw the most beautiful pigeons just chilling all over the city ❤ I took so many photos of beautiful pigeons
“We live in the Mike Tyson Pigeon Universe”
That’s a sentence I never thought I’d hear
I oddly relate to him when he said he just wanted to have pigeons as a kid. Like when I was little, I'd walk down the street and see a bird. And just. The urge to just. Grab one. Was immense.
yeah i still have that urge
The urge. Has never left. But I wouldn’t want them to be hurt or scared. Overrides grabby.
@An Emu Chaotic Good
Because pigeons are domesticated animals you can just pick one up and keep it. One of my life goals. Also pigeons are extremely smart and fascinating!
yo i gotta give props to my man mike. it is completely silly, but i myself have experienced this phenomenon. i started taking care of a flock of pigeons and doves to the point they mingled together and had hybrid babies. they did recognize me on the street so i had a flock of birds following me around the hood. for how silly it sounds, once you get into it it becomes an obsession.
Danny knowing nothing about pigeons makes this arguably funnier 😂
"Mike tyson is the most competitive pigeon racer" Now that is the most insane thing I've heard all week and exactly what I would expect from Danny
Shut up you didn't watch the entire video
Nah. Always expect the unexpected bro
wait until you hear about the cartoon that was made about it
@@thesaltycinnamonroll oh shit ur right
I just about fell out of my chair laughing when I saw him grab the pigeon like that 😂
I am SOBBING laughing at the part where he grabs the pigeon omfg 😂
i waited this whole video to see the “pigeon racing” but then last minute i realised it’s “pigeon RAISING” 💀
People do race pigeons tho
I personally love pigeons and love hearing everyone’s little pigeon stories. I understand that his handling of the birds is definitely completely wrong , yet I feel as though he genuinely loves them and maybe with the right guidance could learn to more carefully and safely take of the lil guys
i mean he seems like a good guy and i’m sure he is but he’s a boxer and i mean boxers only got violent grabs idk
mike tyson probably has hands like hydraulic press machines. it's hard to be gentle when your whole career is beating the shit out of people.
@@thatsjustmylife He is very much not a good guy
i lost it when mike tyson grabbed the bird out of nowhere
Dude, Tyson flew to some small village in Poland and bought himself a 100 pigeons
Pigeons are my favorite creatures! They are incredibly smart and have the capacity to bond deeply with other animals and humans. They are treated like garbage by humans even though we bred, trained and cared for them for so long. I always love how you are so willing to understand and don’t typically just judge something weird off the bat in general but you’re openness to the idea of pigeons being lovable makes me so happy! I am getting a pigeon tattoo in May and I have officially decided he will be named Greg now
Will you sue me if I get a pigeon tattoo and name it Greg too? I'm a ways away from being legally old enough but still.
i love you for this comment
AND THE WAY THEY BOBBLE AND WOBBLE WHEN THE WALK AND HOP
theyre also crazy cool looking and shiny and pretty but under-appreciated because theyre everywhere
Yea you’re the only one that didn’t know
Danny being astounded at the existence of domestic pigeons is so funny
When Danny posts on his second channel, you know it’s gonna be a silly and wacky day.
Shut up you didn't watch the entire video
@@Air-Real-Conditionernobody has ? It was posted like 2 minutes ago 💀💀💀💀
this is indeed a very silly and wacky day fellow greg
Yess
even a little goofy?
When he grabbed that pigeon with his bare hand I lost it 😂😂😂
This video unlocked a memory of being in a tent full of show pigeons, looking at one with frills and a fanned-out tail, and being told it was a tumbling pigeon, because that is a thing they do I guess.
One of my professors at my local community college engineered and bred pigeons as a side hobby and showed them at "pigeon pageants". He was even featured on Vice and is in the National Pigeon Association Hall of Fame. Dude is literally famous in the pigeon world. The pigeon rabbit hole (pigeon hole??) goes DEEP.
Or _pigeants,_ if you will
I am so happy you shared this I will take this information with me forever 💕
The fact that Danny had to google “mike Tyson tiger” means he’s never watched the Hangover and I respect him so much for that.
That movie had some really gross jokes ngl
But . . . Why? The Hangover is such a good movie.
@@rodmunch6865 There’s a scene of a grown man pretending to jack off a baby. Also has a scene of a dude actually humping* a tiger. Pretty sure it was also pretty racist and definitely sexist.
@@rodmunch6865 to each their own. I think it’s overrated by bros who are easily entertained. 🤷
Does everyone just hate everything now? "Oh you like that movie? Gross your taste is so bad"
I can relate to bird love, i adore my chickens. Theyre are very smart and affectionate if you know how to connect with them.
I actually did know that mike Tyson had a bunch of pet pigeons as a kid. I heard that he got into his first fight because a bully hurt his bird or something. Definitely didn’t know he was still into them to such an extent
Pigeons are a common pet (both rescue and breeding). My best friend has 2 pigeons and theyre both adorable. Also it's worth mentioning that most people that like pigeons absolutely HATE pigeon racing because that is now looked at as borderline abuse within the pigeon community (again, best friend owns pigeons, ive learned a thing or two). A comparison would be dog lovers who hate dog fighting, pigeon racing is the equivalent of that for pigeon lovers (or bird lovers in general).
Do you know why it's harmful to the birds?
Those are pretty close to my thoughts. There's a lot of animal racing and shows and they can get pretty extreme. But nothing really comes close to dog fighting. it's in a league of it's own. When I see stuff like this, I go "hmmmm." But dog fighting makes me want to bury the entire human race in a pyroclastic flow. Like, Pompeii this mess. The human race does not deserve the world we are given.
This makes me go "hmmm." but, ultimately, like barn cats and hunting dogs they are honestly probably still better off than they would be in the wild even if it's just by a hair. I suppose it's why it lives in that little grey area, eh.
Sort of like organic animal farming. I have a lot of farmer friends that won't do it because it involved grey area animal pain. Even if there is money in it. Like, raising chickens without antibiotics just means that when they get sick, you have to kill them. so it ups the stakes like a lot. so, IDK. I definitely believe that people who famiily farm without antibiotics still probably love their chickens
@@skylahenry8552 It looks like it's because of how much stress it puts on the birds. Mike Tyson even says in the documentary that PETA was after him for his bird flying more than x-amount of miles. Because it would be considered abuse.
From what I looked at; it looks like there's an average 22% survival rate for the birds that compete. And that the bird community dislikes the racing like they dislike Rooster fighting.
I reckon it’s probably more comparable with horse lovers and horse racing
I would compare pigeon lovers hating pigeon racing to real dog lovers hating dog shows. Dog fighting isn't legal at all, but dog shows are, and it's quite concerning how many dogs go unconscious or even die on their way to said shows. Not to mention how many of them go through abuse just to look pretty for others to see.
Decades of cross breeding have also caused issues. Breeds like the French Bulldog, Cavaliere King Spaniel, and the Pug are unfortunate examples of irresponsible breeding.
They're very sweet and loving animals to have
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As a Brooklyn guy, "that guy has birds, that guy had birds, they were show birds" means they were trained birds to signal when cops were raiding or rolling through. Clapping, whistling, flags, lots of ways to train them. Brownsville was loaded with kids who sad on rooves and corners signaling
😊❤I love how he always had this soft side
Honestly there being a pigeon character on Mike Tyson Mysteries makes so much more sense now
And he’s voiced by Norm MacDonald. RIP
And the whole idea of Mike Tyson having a pigeon coop on the show lmfao
Mike Tyson is synonymous in my mind with that meme where he's holding two pigeons and going "Now Kith"
10:00 the pigeon bug?? 😂 what?
Mike Tyson mysteries is an incredible show. Has a pigeon in it too - great character
Fun Fact: One of the pigeons Mike owns can talk and sounds EXACTLY like Norm Macdonald.
Was waiting for someone to say this
Owning a lot of animals does not equate to loving them. It’s concerning watching Mike grab at those poor birds so aggressively and poking at the caged one.
Amen. Love is an action, not just a feeling.
I'd say the grabbing was far from the worst tbh. It feels like he looks at them as objects not animals.
I will say a lot of times you do have to be kind of quick with birds, especially if you don't spend a lot of time with whichever bird in particular you're trying to interact with. If you've never tried to pick up a chicken, it's basically the same concept. You just kinda have to sneak up on them and grab. Some are more willing but just like any cat or dog, sometimes they like being picked up and sometimes they don't.
@@rosebyan0thername ya sometimes I gotta sneak up on cats and snatch them like that to hold them or move to another room or outside or whatever
Mike had pigeons as pets before starting to breed them for races. Mike loved pigeons. I hate that people won't stop seeing every single thing he does as suspect, or second guessing.
I needed this tonight. Thank you.
As a big Mike tyson fan I already knew this, but having it all put together is really nice to watch.
How am I supposed to know we are going to get silly and wacky if Danny isn't drinking sparkling water? My goofometer is off the charts but I have no idea why
Mikes therapist: so tell me more about these “pigeons” that “saved you” from being thrown off a roof
Brother Tyson just taking care of Pigeons
I love how the grabbing the bird is the most replayed