Cockpit Chronicles: 737 cockpit video - takeoff and landing practice
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- Normally I do not film below 10,000 feet, but this was a training video, used by our check airman to evaluate the procedures used for future 'bounces'.
See the blog post I wrote about this training video:
www.gadling.com...
We call 'em 'bounces.' This video was taken in 1999 when we were required to perform some takeoff and landing practice in the actual airplane after we finished up our simulator training.
Our training airport was San Jose, CA with the touch and go landings at Sacramento. Airplane was a brand new 737-800.
Very cool video indeed! Thank you for posting. I watched UPS do 'bounces' in their new 747's a couple of years ago. What a sight that is!!!
Great video! I used to work at a place that the parking lot was litterally 100 yards from a major 11k foot runway, and on weekends planes of all sorts would do this from sunrise to sunset, mainly military. Once I watched a C-5 Galaxy do this 10 times in a row. A10 Warthogs would do it in pairs. Also the KC10 tanker was a frequent "bounce" participant. Now I know what it looks like from the inside! Thank You!
Wow, that was great to watch. I've only gotten to the point in my flight career of soloing in a Piper Warrior as a student - no cross-country, just local. Unfortunately, even with corrective lenses, I can't see better than 20/35, so I don't think I'll ever be able to fly commercially. But being a private pilot is still within my grasp. Thanks for this upload.
4:04 was smooth
"Stand em up… Push them up! ~ Rotate!" Luv it :)
I have watched 100's of flight videos on utube, I am always amazed that the pilots are never turning their heads looking for other traffic. I am one of those guys who always gets amazed when aircraft collide in mid-air. Memories of the cerritos california and san diego PSA crash alway come to mind. By the way great video.
Whenever I see a cool video like this, I try and re-enact it on FSX as closely as possible. Same plane, same model, weather (from what I can tell) airport, runway, etc. This is not as easy as it may appear. Trying to do ten bounces in a row in under a mile radius as quite challenging. The actual flying isn't too difficult, it's doing them perfect every time to convince your instructor you have it down is the hard part! This was very well done.
This is so cool. I learned to fly around Sacramento, had the chance a few times to shoot some approaches after midnight in a c152. Great fun and the tower loved it
I'd say that doing touch and go practice was the best part of learning to fly.
Minimums is used during an instrument approach to warn the pilot of the approaches minimum descent altitude or decision height.
Glasses have been allowed for many many years as long as correctable to 20/20
Yes ... for short runways. John Wayne airport in Santa Ana, CA is a good example.
You know you are having a good time when you are getting to -practice- in a 737.
That is one of the greatest cockpit videos i have ever seen!!!! Stand them up!!!
@revowild no its for the touch and go. flaps at final approach are 30 degrees(landing)
I could watch this for hours.One time i was in the south east on the coast and they were doing this with A-10 Warthogs.
@kingcarcas1349
You use the rudder pedals. The tops of the pedals can be pushed forward with your toes to activate the brakes. They're called "toe-brakes" ;)
Very nice video! Reminds me of the good ol' sim and base-training time!
you can tell its not a simulator by the outside view. it doesnt have that animated quality to it, and there are also a variety of other things that give it away.
@fly4fun thanks! i didn't know they made it illegal now. i read up a bit and it looks like the PIC and/or operator can provide permission as long as it doesn't interrupt comm or nav data. i've seen quite a few landing and takeoff vids on youtube
The landing approach lineup is backed up by ILS ( Instrument Landing System ). Minimums are called out by the system after the aircraft has an glidescope capture,.....500 100, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10. The system insures proper alignment and correct rate of descent.
Nice vid, did my touch and go's a couple of weeks ago as a part of the command check ride, will upload them for your review and comments shortly.
For me, during the landing phase I find the most exciting part just as I flare and wait to touch down. There is always that awkward combination of a low engine noise and low airspeed just before the wheels touch.
I'm learning in a Cirrus SR20 GTS which is a bit slippery and doesn't seem to want to stop flying!
T&Gs on 16L at SMF (I heard "Capitol Tower" on the radio) , I love it! No idea who these guys are burning jet fuel in a B737NG, but it's awesome!
Better to get practice in the real thing than a simulator. Can only feel so much realism in a sim.
Awesome Im about a year and a half away from jet transition program!!!! Can't wait to get into the RJ
touch and goes in a 737....awesome. kind of like a big lumbering warrior!! :) stand em up, push em up is now going into my takeoff roll...at 54 kts.
Absolutely fantastic! So many touch and gos ! Great video. Thanks for sharing. Five stars and favourite.
Congrats fly4fun, this is my favourite Aviation video, it inspired me to spend $aud270 and an hour in a b737-800 sim, now iam watching your addictive video more and want to do more real sim, in Melbourne AU you can get a b737 sim 'license' in about 20 hrs, hope to do this and take my friends up, your video is really inspiring plus learning lots into the bargin, and taking note of the landings (mine are a bit wobbly) - Stand em up, push em up, Rotate !! love it and thanks :)
Wow Kent that seems fun, you think you would get sick after a while just coming down and back up 10 times but you know what I would rather do that for a day then sit in school even though it is flight school. :-)
Wow. That guy keeps getting better with each try. :D
@DJaugissss From what I get, it depends on every companies SOP's, and local regulations such as noise abatment procedures.
For example reversers won't be allowed from 2200 to 0700.
The most common practice is :
80 knots -> pull the throttles to idle reverse, the engines will spool down
60 knots -> reversers are closed and forward thrust is restored
If you close the reversers too fast, the engines will not have the time to spool down thus creating a substantial amount of forward thrust.
it was the radio telling them that they had crossed the inner marker.
Awesome video...I've never seen touch and go's in a 737 before. Looks like fun :)
i thought that too, but it's seems pretty close to the threshold to be the middle marker!
@fly4fun also being a pilot/flight instructor i found your justification interesting for filming below 10,000 ft... basically you're saying that because the purpose of the video was for training, it changed the filming from an "unsafe" act to a "safe" act.
not saying there's anything at all wrong with filming then!... i just find the human thinking interesting. i've worked a bit on accident investigation so it popped up a flag when i read the description!
It sounds more like the middlemarker, the innermarker has a higher pitch usually
Awesome video !
Is that night vision?
Ok, let me rephrase that.
I took a ride in a 737-800 sim a couple of weeks ago and there was three knobs with numbers on them on the inner side of the yoke, facing me.
Thanks for the reply!
You have the best videos on RUclips.
'Here, take this brand new 738 for a spin. Kick the tires, drive it around the block. Let us know what you think. '
Sheesh, what fun.
Thank you for posting this video. I found it quite informative, espacially the part before touching down is quite well demonstrated, also by the instructor calling "flare, flare, flare" all the time! ;)
I'm assuming that light above the display that goes green-red is connected to the squat switches-as you touch down it alternates for a second. Very nice video-I could watch it for hours. Is this for a type rating?
How can both of them die and the aircraft operates itself?
A aircraft needs information for it to land its self no matter if the aircraft is following a specific route. Tuning runway frequencies are needed starting the descent process is needed if not by Vnav.
owhh...wow..never knew that..what a great info..thanks so much!
Fajna sprawa, zazdroszczę pilotom ich pracy, ja takie lądowania ćwiczę na symulatorze FSX i tu też jest dużo adrenaliny
@fly4fun I'm sorry, I didn't notice to expand that write-up.
Normally, shortly after takeoff, the aircraft is put on AP until shortly before landing. How much of a chance do you get to stay sharp on hand flying these large jets. Is it mostly in the simulators? I can imagine that doing these "bounces" would be more hand flying in such a short time than is normal.
signmanbob2 Lots of us hand fly frequently if traffic and weather allow it.
Very smooth landings.
My boss's husband flys a 737 for America Airlines based out of MIA.
Can somebody explan how the flaps are managed when doing touch & go's on the 737? Do you land on flap 30 and set 15 during the roll as in a go around?
DreamboyCAT Yes. You could land with 40 as well.
was that a simulator or the real deal? what sold me as it being real was the traffic on the roads! that actually looks like it was fun :)
More like Touch and goes in an 737!!! Damn! Imagine how wide that circuit pattern must be...
@jwrmtz
Yes, We can. We get landing counts and all.
@BenGaut Thanks for that clarification. That makes sense.
Excellent video
@StarflightVirtual First of all read my comment. I am not a real pilot. But I can still tell you when to activate or deactivate AT, FD, LNAV and VNAV. You need to turn on flight director and arm the autothrottle before the takeoff, as well as LNAV and VNAV. After the takeoff you turn on autopilot (CMD A/B) and the plane will go directly to your destination. It will climb automatically to your cruising altitude. It'll also control the speed (you have to set it in the FMC)
amazing, i want to start training for my ATPL but i cannot get the loan..
Thanks for uploading, looks excellent!
what did you put in the MCDU to set the fix on the runway 16L threshold? thanks!
I have my private pilot ASEL and was told always to keep one hand on the throttle and the other on the yoke during takeoffs and landings. Just out of curiosity, is that never done on commercial airliners? I don't see it on videos like this. I'm so in the habit of it, that not doing it feels dangerous to me.
Nice bounces-looked a tad gusty. What kind of approaches are these? I noticed the VOR/compass rose on the display
the last airport looks like Santa Ana, CA
Why cant you hear the engines? ive been on a 737-800 over 10 times and the engines are loud. Is it becasue of where the cockpit is?
Awsome! What's the check airman saying after each touchdown before throttling up? He says 2 things everytime.
How do you use the "brakes", in FSX you just pull the joystick trigger but i always wondered where it was in real life, also how much pressure do you usually apply?
what is minimums?i heard the machine said that when the airplane touch down..
and is the pilot wearing glasses?i thought that its not allowed ..
i think there is a speed restriction i guess its Mach 1 but im not sure
Really nice video !
I wonder how big of a pattern you fly for a plane that large/fast. And do you still fly the same pattern altitude?
was this in a simulator or was this practice in a real plane
thx 4 the info, lol I often forget to check that little more info link. still thats an awesome vid. I hope my loans come through, cause then in 2 years I could be doing that :)
Subscribe to the videos guys... This guy is the coolest person ever. He is passionate about his job and I admire him for that. So, respect him. He gets you to see your family across the pond ;)
@DJaugissss
Hello,
as i read here you are a real pilot.
Pls. can you exactly explain me when i have to activate and deactivate VNAV, LNAV, CMD A/B, FlightDirector and Autothrottle?
There are so many different tutorials and so on.
Thanks
Matthas
No. The throttles. In jets, I think, there are 'detents' (click positions) for various functions. eg. idle, take off power, climb power which is slightly less and go-around power which is full or near full power which can only be used for a short period but necessary because flaps are still at landing setting and can only be reduced after a positive rate of climb,
capacityplus There are no detents in Boeings (in the forward thrust range, anyway.) There are in Airbus FBW aircraft.
surprisingly informal, great video thanks for posting.
is this in a real plane or was that one of them moving simulators? I cant tell
Great video!
what is meant by "Stand 'em up..... Push 'em up..."? Just got my Private and though I sure I'll not get to this level of flying (in RL that is to say...) still curious to know what it means.. ;+)
This would make a great mission in Flight Simulator X; a great way to practice on various aircraft types!
What does he mean by squeeze it when he saying flare it?
Never get tired watching this video Captain.. =)
In extreme conditions they use the ILS for landing...
Ah! Close to what i suspected.
Cheers!
Great video, wish my touch and go went that smooth.
Really nice video!! not exactly a "cheap date" I'm sure!!
Thanks for posting these vids for us wantabe pilots.
is it hard to learn to pilot a plane?
What are those knobs on the inner side of the yoke?
So interesting, thanks for posting... I'm commercial with 2000 hours but never flown for a job. The biggest plane i had the pleasure to fly was a Twin Otter. Is it just me of the 737 is one hell of an airplane. Seem like a gentle giant.
Can somebody tell me when do you have to deactivate reverse trust when landing? At 80 or 60 knots. Or it doesn't matter? I am talking about B737NG
I'm not a real pilot :D I just fly in a Flight Simulator on my PC
Nice trick used for the circle to land also :)
whats the degree on the flaps when approaching and landing?
100% real, come on guys look around, when have you ever seen a sim like that, unless microsoft has secertly released flight sim 1000, in which you need an i99 8x core processor!! Exellent video 5*
awsome video
what is the ideal fpm on touchdown ? and from what fpm landings are categorized as hard landing
Great video. What airline do you fly for now?
@fly4fun wat does it mean backed up by an ILS?
What does the computer says at 9:03 please ? I can't understand... I'm hearing "Plus hundred" lol
@fly4fun o okay i c, so u used ils for guidance but landed urself. I am so jealous of you. I am a sophomore and I can't wait to get out of high school and go to flight school.
Awesome! I could do that all day long! :-)
One question; How do you set the fmc for Touch and go in the route page?
Nice work-looked a tad gusty
Crystal clear! Thank you for the quick response!
@sixstringfretter I always wondered that myself until I started flying jets... I am not sure whether or not it is actual sheepskin, but as is true with processed wool, it does a fantastic job at maintaining a normal temperature between you and the seat... preventing such distractions as "swamp-ass" or "swamp-back". I fly a brand new Sovereign as well as a BBJ, and the Sovereign has yet to have seat covers ordered (so it is bare leather)... I My boss refuses to let me buy taxi-cab beads...