As much as I love Morrison's run, I think it was a mistake for DC to let the retcon of Niles always being evil stick. Now he's always written so obviously evil and abusive of the Doom Patrol that they come off more as victims then heroes.
True. The Chief has no mental powers or any powers at all. His "power" is actually the powers of the Doom Patrol members if they want to be manipulated. If not, The Chief has no power at all.
@@partofthetribe3277 Well, you shouldn't compare Xavier to The Chief. Both characters are different. Don't compare them. Don't even try. It is ok to say one is better than the other or not, but both characters are different. (The Chief's only power in immortality and for a long time he was only a served head...immortality without regeneration sucks.)
The evil Caulder from the TT series was Geoff Johns doing the take he did on the character in the comics. Everyone hates that take. The DP series did the more classic take.
I thought Grant Morrison did the Niles caulder is bad reveal. So Geoff Johns did it first, what story? I also prefer good guy Niles. Making him a bad guy ruined his motivation for creating the Doom patrol. He wanted to help people with superpowers, people who were lost like Kay Challis. Turning him bad makes him look like a real jerk.
Turning Niles caulder bad ruined his character. It ruined his entire motivation, to help people with superpowers. While it is a interesting idea it did destroy my view of him. You could never have Niles lead the Doom patrol again after this. That's why the twist didn't work. I view the bad Niles as a alternate reality version of him. Basically I pretend the reveal didn't happen in the main timeline.
Same; I actually recently tried to model a Player Character I had in mind for the 3rd Edition of _Mutants & Masterminds_ (a Superhero Based Roleplaying Tabletop Game) on the Discord Server, and after having people pick apart and point out the flaws and improbability of trying to run a character who is a Megalomaniacal Ass with a Psychopathic Manipulative Streak and an "Above Good and Evil Worldview," I had to modify his biography slightly, by appending that he doesn't want to be remembered as a monster and feels _some_ measure of remorse or guilt for his actions, which would technically not make him a psychopath but a sociopath. I'm seriously considering just overhauling his backstory to make him more like his "Idealistic/ Optimistic Mentor" role of the Silver Age, which in all honesty, I kind of like better. Of course, it'll mean dumping an entire notebook of details, plot hooks and history I came up with for him, and start over from complete scratch. Which will be Hell.
It makes sense, He did the surgry to turn the guy into robot man meaning he build the robot already, he had special bandages made for negative man meaning he knew he would need them. You can have him lead the team by them forgiving him or not finding out.
@@nerdiboy5128 Stick to what you know best don't revise your story because everyone says it's not realistic. It's fiction and supposed to be unrealistic I'm not saying no one needs criticism but to keep what you intended for your creation intact but it's you're decision as a creator I just want to try and give my opinion since im not a writer.
Doom patrol debuted only 3 months before the X-Men. The X-Men basically copied the Doom patrol and took character ideas from the legion of Superheroes. The first X-Men comic even has the exact same tagline as Doom patrol. The X-Men has become very different from both those teams.
As much as I love Morrison's run, I think it was a mistake for DC to let the retcon of Niles always being evil stick. Now he's always written so obviously evil and abusive of the Doom Patrol that they come off more as victims then heroes.
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Happy 60th Anniversary!
Most comprehensive video on the character on this entire platform no joke
I need 3000 watch hours please help the dragon ball
Timothy Dalton was great in this role
Thank you so much ☺️
Any hope for the Ambush Bug orgins video? He is/was a member of the Doom Patrol.
Yeah Mycroft is a beast
There is nothing that makes him better than Xavier
True. The Chief has no mental powers or any powers at all. His "power" is actually the powers of the Doom Patrol members if they want to be manipulated. If not, The Chief has no power at all.
@@stanleyteriaca2184 yeah and Powers aside even Xavier's just a cooler character I feel
@@partofthetribe3277 Well, you shouldn't compare Xavier to The Chief. Both characters are different. Don't compare them. Don't even try.
It is ok to say one is better than the other or not, but both characters are different. (The Chief's only power in immortality and for a long time he was only a served head...immortality without regeneration sucks.)
The evil Caulder from the TT series was Geoff Johns doing the take he did on the character in the comics. Everyone hates that take. The DP series did the more classic take.
I thought Grant Morrison did the Niles caulder is bad reveal. So Geoff Johns did it first, what story?
I also prefer good guy Niles. Making him a bad guy ruined his motivation for creating the Doom patrol. He wanted to help people with superpowers, people who were lost like Kay Challis. Turning him bad makes him look like a real jerk.
Turning Niles caulder bad ruined his character. It ruined his entire motivation, to help people with superpowers. While it is a interesting idea it did destroy my view of him. You could never have Niles lead the Doom patrol again after this. That's why the twist didn't work. I view the bad Niles as a alternate reality version of him. Basically I pretend the reveal didn't happen in the main timeline.
Same; I actually recently tried to model a Player Character I had in mind for the 3rd Edition of _Mutants & Masterminds_ (a Superhero Based Roleplaying Tabletop Game) on the Discord Server, and after having people pick apart and point out the flaws and improbability of trying to run a character who is a Megalomaniacal Ass with a Psychopathic Manipulative Streak and an "Above Good and Evil Worldview," I had to modify his biography slightly, by appending that he doesn't want to be remembered as a monster and feels _some_ measure of remorse or guilt for his actions, which would technically not make him a psychopath but a sociopath.
I'm seriously considering just overhauling his backstory to make him more like his "Idealistic/ Optimistic Mentor" role of the Silver Age, which in all honesty, I kind of like better.
Of course, it'll mean dumping an entire notebook of details, plot hooks and history I came up with for him, and start over from complete scratch. Which will be Hell.
It makes sense, He did the surgry to turn the guy into robot man meaning he build the robot already, he had special bandages made for negative man meaning he knew he would need them. You can have him lead the team by them forgiving him or not finding out.
@@nerdiboy5128 Stick to what you know best don't revise your story because everyone says it's not realistic. It's fiction and supposed to be unrealistic I'm not saying no one needs criticism but to keep what you intended for your creation intact but it's you're decision as a creator I just want to try and give my opinion since im not a writer.
Neat
Doom Patrol Origins:
A. Cyborg.
B. Crazy Jane.
Or C. Mento.
(On Jan 31st.)
Do an origin of ghost of dark horse
batman is pretty much that saying at times
there both the same and act like there different and work together to screw others
Doom Patrol has similarities to the Fantastic Four. Look at X-Men then look at Legion of Superheroes.
The Challengers of The Unknown are more like the FF. I would like to see them get a live action adaptation at some point.
@@Supremmo Both Reed Richards and Rita Farr can stretch. Human Torch and Negative Man can fly. Thing and Robotman have tough exteriors.
Doom patrol debuted only 3 months before the X-Men. The X-Men basically copied the Doom patrol and took character ideas from the legion of Superheroes. The first X-Men comic even has the exact same tagline as Doom patrol. The X-Men has become very different from both those teams.