Rally Legend: The Audi Ur Quattro 20v Reviewed
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- In celebration of fourty years of Audi's famous Quattro brand, I pinched this beautiful pearl white 20v Ur-Quattro from the heritage fleet of Audi UK. But, with an iconic car like this - how can it live up to its reputation? Let's find out
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This was a true game changer. It had a profound effect on the market in it's day. A seriously jaw dropping car when you consider what else was on the market at the time. We all wanted one, still do really.
Exactly
Always wanted one, but could never afford one, nearest I got was an old Audi coupe. Strange How Audi are always blowing there own trumpet about the original Audi UR quattro , but you ask any quattro or classic Audi owner, Audi are not interested I keeping there heritage going in spares like Porche, Mercedes and BMW are. I had a lot to do with club audi some years ago and got to hear about the difficulty getting spares and if the did, how expensive they were. It's a shame, because the quattro is an iconic car and a rally legend, like my Subaru impreza RB5.
there are some parts available at Audi Heritage, but most people dont wanna pay those prices.
Indeed - has been that way since the early 90s when the car finished production. Audi Tradition have some parts, prices can be hit and miss but at least they are genuine. It does 'amuse' me how they roll out these cars at key moments in time, hand them to journos to leverage the brand, yet during all the gaps in betwen, there is no support and no support and no acknowledgement of owners who have kept this flag flying through forums, clubs and sheer DIY skills. The 20v is more of a GT whereas the 10v is more suited to A/B roads.
The torque on the 20v comes in much sooner at 1950rpm so alot more flexible. If that is owned by Audi UK now (as it implies on the plate), I hope they give it a massive detail esp the engine bay and the drivers seat. The 20v is more of a GT whereas the 10v is more suited to A/B roads. The torque on the 20v comes in much sooner at 1950rpm so alot more flexible.
@@paredding yeah, even in my 2001 S8 its getting complicated to keep her running sometimes
Funny, my dad got his 1983 Quattro (mighta been a 1984) in 2009 also had an black Impreza Sport Special along with it.
My dad owned an RB5, and owns a UR Quattro
“Fire up the Quattro” 🙂
how can you mention how fancy electric windows are when it has fancier heated seats? 😁
MGazT indeed! You could even see the electric mirror controls in the vid. Do you know which ones had air con?
I think you're misled if you're expecting a sportscar-like drive out of the regular Quattro, as it merely is a comfortable cruiser.
You are misled, because what you are expecting actually isn't the Audi Quattro. What you really want is the Audi Sport Quattro.
Yep, it was made as a sporty GT at the time, I think. Not an out and out sports car.
Even the SWB Sport Quattro is not worth the money if you are a driver. Look beautiful though
Unsure where people are getting this from. The 20v Quattro was regarded at the time as one of the best performance cars on the market
@@35deedub LOL . I hear this many times by Toyota Prius Hybrid drivers ... And you have the skills to judge it ?
Even today , as a propper Driver you can beat a lot of modern cars on the country road . The Quattro was not designed to drive straight ahead on the autobahn. And you have to master the AUDI Sport Quattro first in order to go to the limit - neither of us is called Röhrl or Blomquist ... It is more difficult to drive the Sport Quattro fast than the Audi Quattro. Due to the short wheelbase, the car is much more nervous and less forgiving of mistakes
Literally by coincidence finished rewatching Ashes to Ashes this evening. Fire up the Quattro!!
I always remember watching an Audi Quattro at Curborough race track with over 600 BHP and it's short wheel base in the early 1990's and it always trounced every other cars time's, but the most memorable is that exhaust note and warble of its engine, great car, thanks for reviewing a classic piece of Audi engineering.
I had a 1985 10v back in 1995 when I was 24, I thought it was the best car in the world and it only cost £4500 at the time. I had it for 2 years and all I had to do apart from normal servicing was change a CV boot. It was so capable at the time, I had a metallic graphite one and my friend had an alpine white model and we had some great drives in the times we had them. It was the only car I have sold for a profit but like everyone who had one I wish I’d kept it, I keep looking at the classifieds at classic UR cars but can’t help feeling the memory would be better than the reality these days with being used to the modern cars performance. Still love them.
Nearly sporting an 80's Rally Jacket at the start Jay! Another superb video, this is my no 1 without a doubt favourite car of all time since first seeing and hearing one 40 years ago. Been lucky enough to drive a 10V for a day and completely agree with you. 10V sound is like nothing else!
115k subs, dont know how many are those cam girls 🤣 but congrats. Got to admit your vids are much better than 95% of other youtubers.
When is the next afordable dream car entry please? That series has inspired me to look at an early manual r8 or v8 manual vantage. I mean a bonafide super car for bmw 3 series money. Couldnt ask for more.
I love the later version flush headlights, blacked out rear fascia and that digi dash. Audi icon. My favourite Audi of all time.
Hallo James,Thanks for this video.
I have a 1981 version in silver.
I had at aprox time also the first M3 and i can tell you that to 120Km/h the M3 was slower for not talking about when it was bad weather.
In 1981 there was not many daily drivers faster than this car.
I had also the Carrera 2,7 210 Hp and even i loved it you could not drive it faster than the Quattro.
Of course later came younger cars that had better handling like the Escort Cosworth, but it was already the 90ties.
Ps.I was sending you replay e mail.
This was one of the cars i really wanted but just couldnt afford, back in the day. The capri 2.8 was another. Both look less desirable now, thankfully.
That back to back between the 10V and the 20V cars was masterful, many thanks! PS: Watching an S1 Quattro mangle any corner in any weather and any road surface with that 5-cyl warble and the wastegate blowing off gave all Quattros to me icon status.
"As exciting as a Columbian snow globe"! That, sir is up there with "Stuttgartian truffle pig".
My favourite Group B car is 205 t16 with Timo Salonnen behind the steering wheel
Odd post on a video solely about the Audi quattro 😅
Watching this vid made me realise how much I miss the audi 80coupe 2.6 v6 I had back in the late 90's just something about the cars that are ace
As per our convo last night 90s and older cars are much more fun to drive than new cars with a few exceptions 👌 excellent review mate really enjoyed that and well worth the wait
That hair cut and his shoes, quality banger here
Your conclusion with both these and the Lancia are spot on, the earlier (10 valves versions as opposed to the latter 20 valvers) cars with both models are the more sweeter ones. This was also the case inline with reviews back in the days these cars ruled the roost. Spot on.
The steering was offset as it was mainly sold in left hand drive, the right hand drive was a swap round as the call for right hand drive wasn't so great, they did a swap but not a direct one, Audi UK should have told you about that, nice to see familiar local roads, great vid, had 2 Quattro's, biggest mistake I made was selling them .
25 smiles per gallon is what it’s all about , love em and got one
We owned C567ULM for almost four years, and loved it. Tornado red was THE colour for a quattro [note lower-case q] and although it had issues, we put up with them, well, because.... Turned out the issues stemmed from intermittent blockages in the fuel tank, but after thousands of pounds had been spent in vain, we'd had enough. AM Cars took it back, and we moved on. Wish't I'd persevered though. I'd have it back in the blink of an eye, except that now I definitely could not afford to do so.
Fell in love with a GT5S because of the sound of the 5 cylinder engine. I was 16 then but hooked. At 22 I had a GT5S. 23 a 1983 10V Quattro Turbo. Then a theft put the insurance out of reach for a 24 year old. A Coupe quattro (the non-turbo, non-flared wheel arch model) kept the dream alive. A crash resulted in relegation to an Audi 80. Then a 1984 10V. And in 2002 a pristine 1991 RR in Tornado Red. A move abroad in 2021 meant saying goodbye to that at a classic auction. Now in another boring A4 TDi. As flawed as it was/is, for me, always the best car in the world. I drove a V10 Plus Sport R8. My old 1983 10V was 10X more thrilling to drive.
PS. RIP Phil Payne.
I had a 1981 Coupe FWD in silver. Bought it from a mate in 1983 who was just trying to get out of a lease so I got it on the cheap. I lived in L.A. and had a place in Mammoth Mountain, 320 miles to the north. It was a stellar road car and even with the normally aspirated 5 at only 130 bhp, it would cruise at 85-90 mph effortlessly. Thing was amazing in the snow even with "summer" tires. Loved that car and still think it's one handsome car, even in the non-quattro iteration!
Yup 90's perfect blend of accessible performance & reliability without nany-ing controls or additional weight. 80's cars look awesome but don't drive as well and not good dailies, will mist up, leak, have issues etc. 00's cars are ok esp. early ones but later ones getting fat and heavy. Is your Celica a better drive than the UR ???
"Exciting as a Colombian snowglobe" has the be one of top 5 similes in auto journalism history LOL
Always so cool to see it again. What i very enjoyed was the engine sound absolutely unimitable.
You have there the 220PS (the previous with cat. had 170PS and the first MK1 10valves had 200PS).
. . Had two from 1984 to 1991 . . seat mountings replaced 3 times (can see they are on the way out the amount you moved about in the film) . . 2 drivers side door window winding mechanisms (also as rare as hens teeth back in the day) . . Sachs suspension, Ansa exhaust slight tune to 250BHp and was my Essex back road blaster par excellence . . nothing could touch it back then . . on service costs as well . . but comparing an UR Quattro to anything modern or 1990's is a fools errand . .
Thank you for pointing out the quattro's lack of success in late Group B competition. The famous (shorter) Sport Quattro and its E2 (winged) guise won only one rally each.
I like early quattros but the one everybody remembers is one of the two most overrated competition cars, the other one being the 787B.
Ahh the only Audi ever made that could interest me to own a car with four rings. Forget all the over styled, ugly, fake noise new stuff. Thiiiiiiis is an Audi!
I had the chance to drive one of these in Spa. In the Rivage Corner, it was getting "a bit tricky" and I drove it just slowly the rest of the course. Still, a fantastic car and icon of its time. I always appreciated it a bit more as it was later more less the only car left based on a road-going vehicle and because the tech that was introduced with it. Not to forget the sound :-)
1:50 The Radiator is to the right hand side of the engine covered with the black shroud, not in front of it, it would be even longer if it was, unless it has a small additional one like the S2 ABY has.
Correct. At least that's where it is on mine 👍
Love these, always wanted one, I still look at adverts..when they come up. My dad had an Audi GT Coupe back in the early 90s.. same shape. Love them!! Bought my Mk2 Focus RS as I wanted that 5 cylinder sound.. Ur S1 Quattro still THE rally car for me!
*I would refit the Audi Quattro badges on the back of this one, and the 4 rings along the doors.. Perfect then👌🏼
No,no,no! The 20V only had the 4 rings on the rear. To add the wrong badges is simply...wrong! The door rings are correct though :)
@@gregspark9845 Ahh, wasnt aware of that.. learnt something there 👍
I crashed my RG250V by high siding it on a roundabout racing my boss in his SWB coupe Quattro. Back in 1989 something. I was 19. Ripped all flesh of my forearm with gravel rash. Ah. Good times! He had Haatge? tuned original m3 and a first gen 750iL at the same time as well. We were the UK service agents for Blaupunkpt I fixed a literal million of those dam things. They were standard fit in everything for a time. We saw palettes of them.
@Pete Stuff I miss 2 strokes. Noisy, smelly prone to breaking. But the absolute best. I bought a rg500 later on. Killed that as well. Ah to be young again.
Check out vins motors, although whether they will ever make it into show rooms who knows.
@Pete Stuff I used to go and watch a lot of Motocross when people like Dave Thorpe and his CR500 was champ. The smell. My gosh. Bisto indeed.
Great review. This is where my love of Audi started, but ironically I have never owned a UR. The closest I came was an 87 coupe Quattro followed by an S2 with the 20V engine which was an awesome machine. My diesel Q7 would almost certainly show this a clean pair of heels now though but god I still want one.
we have an 89
@@andrewwallace1030
Very nice, a rare beast these days.
@@stephencollins7714 hasn’t been on the road in years. tornado red...
Scorpion exhaust full system and piper cross induction rally box opens up the sound track on her ❤️👍
What a classic, very envious that you got a drive! Great video and review.
Just a couple of points, the fuel tank on the quattro is huge 90 litres if memory serves so 500 miles isn’t unrealistic as I never drive my quattro from full to empty but my 2.2 GT driven with a mix of steady and hardish used to give me 400 miles between stops.
In regards to the ‘drivers car’ statement I suggest driving other cars from the era to get your perspective in check as it’s 100% a drivers cars with great feedback from the car providing plenty of organic feel.
Regarding rally dominance, the first quattros were extremely dominant and due to that they were handicapped with weight penalties to allow the other cars a chance which, sadly caused reliability issues but this ever really gets spoken about (same thing happened in BTCC with the A4).
In regards to group B, yes there was a fundamental problem with the cars DNA but it’s worth pointing out that despite being up against prototypes they actually started to get the sport quattro to work and win against them and I’m pretty sure when they left group B they were leading.
After group B we disbanded the sport quattro went head to head with the other group an prototypes at Pikes Peak hill climb and destroyed them all which solidified the fact that it wouldn’t have been much different had group B continued .
Shame Audi never got around to making the mid engined quattro as it would have showed the true potential of how far ahead they were in those days.
One thing we can all agree on is that the sound was unmistakable and still, even today sounds so unique even amongst the Audi derived Volvo engines Ford’s (but thank you for those cars).
Maybe you had to be from the era to fully appreciate this car but I can tell you as an owner, no car evoked as much emotion in the general public as my quattro did as I cannot tell how many people came up to me to talk to me or even follow me to my destination to come running over in awe then reminiscing through childhood memories. Some of these people jumped out of Porsche’s which tells you a lot about this car.
Changed the motor industry forever and sent shockwaves through it all the way to Ferrari. In it’s day it was arguably the quickest point to point car on the road.
I love them ❤
I remember the "Killer B's" like it was yesterday, and the Audi was almost GOD like. Fast forward 40 years and I realize that the Audi is now sought of in the same class as a Lamborghini Countach. It is one of those cars that you idealize, but don't want to drive, because it might not live up to your memories. Unless of course you can be blessed enough to drive a proper S1. Yes, they got beaten by the competition in the later years, but damn, watching them in person was amazing.
Great UR Quattro review, but if you’re speaking about THE car of the 1980’s it’s got to be the Opel Manta GTE or Escort RS Turbo for me.
I am actually jealous, but no, 80's automotive would be the RS Cosworth or Countach, yes I know the Countach was born in the 70's, but what boy growing up in the UK did not have an Athena Countach poster on their wall.
@MGazT Yeah, 92 on.
Totally agree with that 😍
Great vid and channel! Hopefully you get the legendary Lancia 037 Stradale for a comparison - the true nemesis of the Audi!
Great review, and I like the shirt.
I'm sure I spotted this passing me in Midhurst earlier on today
Lovely car, genuine head turner
I remember when I was in the market to buy a 4x4 I could not afford the german car insurance that went with the quattro at the time, so had to purchase a Sierra 4x4 turbo. It wasn't bad but as I do now I will always yearn for the original Quattro.
SHIRT ! 👍
Love them wanted one, never going to happen. So thinking outside the box, i picked up a URS4 Audi 100 with the same running gear. Close enough, you are only an exhaust system away from that rally car sound! Cheap as chips too.
So you got to review the Quattro, how about a 037 stradale next?
The bargain for many years was the Audi S2, gorgeous car 👍
I’ve got an ABY S2, brilliant car!
One of the best car designs ever. Looks like a car should look. Stunning . Not so much jays shirt 😀. Another great review 👍
Surprisingly subdued on the shirt front in this video compared to the normal eye popping blouses
And then you get to 4.41 in the video
My mate had one exactly like that in the late 80s, same pearlescent colour with the 5 Audi rings on the side, full grey leather interior.Should have kept it.
5 rings.. was it modified? 😉
Was it married 🤔?
JayEmm, you can't compare a production unibody chassis front-engine vs special-purpose built tubular space frame chassis mid-engine of the Lancia 037, Delta S4, & Peugeot 205 T16. They are like night and day. Did you remember the Delta S4 drove over the cliff, crashed and exploded? The driver and co-driver would still be alive today if they had driven the Sport quattro Evo2. Audi put driver and co-drivers safety over and above winning a race or championship. During the Group 4 and B WRC campaign, no Audi factory drivers and co-drivers lose their lives.
In racing, you can compare them - and I am aware of the tragedy of the Lancia in Group B (I reference it in my Integrale video)
Thanks for another great video, second only to Harry, but that shirt - did you loose a bet!?
You obviously haven’t taken a performance lap of how good the 20v is., saying you’ve got to be cautious on the bends is utter rubbish, the gearbox was absolutely fabulous up and down the full range it sticks to the road like glue , but if your going to drive her like a Sunday driver then your not going to waken up that big Turbo, and experience the true performance of.her , my 20v before and regret I sold her, for a WRX was simply stunning in performance and handling in any conditions, she was absolutely fabulous in long distance motorway driving these cars were built for,, the seats were very comfortable too and in fuel consumption for me was brilliant, for me the 20v was the one you had to experience , it’s still a fabulous car today !!!!
Most iconic vehicle of the 1980’s has to be the DeLorean. Gullwings, stainless steel body and the star of a blockbuster motion picture.
Fantastic vid what a lovely car, looks like a giant mk1scirocco also the car that turned heads in its day.
I'm in love❤️ juicing up here😂
It would have been great to see Audi's mid-engine prototype replacement in anger, sadly I can't imagine that will ever happen 😥
The first prototype was scrapped after the tests, but the following one was already driven in 2016 at the Eifel Rallye in Germany. Of course, with reduced boost pressure etc. In addition, the car had only 36 km on the clock there ~ "New car"
A like for the 10v noise.
For me its still a legend and id gladly have one
Always thought the VW Sirocco was a miniature Audi Quattro, very similar body shape, love these cars and the Sorocco.
I owned one of these. 20v in a Cabury's purple. It was a fantastic machine tho even at the times a little rough around the edges. I'd love another one of these and actually would love a chance to drive one .. should I buy another? Who knows. As you stated to keep chipping away I think we should do a collaboration .. or more accurately you should let me appear in one of your videos out of sheer pity lol. Joking aside I loved this edit and this car. Awesome. PS I wasn't joking about the collaboration lol
If you want it to turn, put the weight on the dang nose, sharp turn and fire it out of the curve with quattro point and shoot magic.
i will own a Quattro one day. been my dream car since the day i sat in one and always will be
I wonder if I set of stiffer springs and good tires would fix the handling issue?
You are spot on as regards Lancia.But sorry mate, the best decade for drivers' cars? The 1970's.A time well before
when cars started to be molested with tech and other nonsensical doodahs.
Back in the late 90’s, the front bumpers for these were £2k... if you could find one...
Shame about the handling still a beautiful car though awesome video 👌🏻
Where is your Celica to finish this mini series???????????
1300kg IS lightweight for a road car.
These have always struck me being a back to front Porsche in that instead the mass of the engine being behind the rear axle this one has it hanging out the front.
Audi = Vorsprung durch Understeer
Maybe it more of a lead tipped arrow 😂
I dearly dearly loved these when they were current.
Audi did win a few rally's against the tubular frame mid engine cars toward the end of group b I'm sure.
The S1 won one rally only. San Remo 1985.
I love the Audi.
But the 205 T16 was handling much better.
That said, the S1 was the only top class group B car with a production chassis.
The other running space framme or tubular chassis.
That thing is fuckin' rad!
any chance of a review of the short wheelbase version which is one of my all time fav cars along with the BMW M3 E30.
What a beautiful machine!
My Dentist had one of these in bright red lovely car 🚗
Let's here more of that 5 pot please!
Top video pal
As beautiful as impossible to own right now
Man, its value has skyrocketed to 100k today 😢
The 10v was also on my channel when filming with PetrolPed 😊, interior is certainly better on this newer version , the terrible brown carpet is gone
Audi or Calibra Turboid 4*4?
Audi 100 CC diesel would be nice today with the 100L tank that will last forever :)
I love box flares!
Is the steering / seating position better in the left hand drive to the right hand drive ?
Great video, but more importantly... Do you have a license for that shirt?
You need to start with a longer thissss 😂
My dream car
Id love to see you driving an RS2 or S2!!
Both awesome cars, but neither with the cachet of the original, the ur quattro!
Just realising this is the UR Quattro Fifth Gear used in their test.
by the way i paid 12000 for my 20v in 2007 and sold it in 2010 for the same worth about 35000 on a good day now, i am gutted you bet i am but ive got an a4 quattro tdi 180 sport avant a early 225 tt, a 80 coupe quattro and a audi 80 cabriolet 2.6 v plate the agony of choice when i go to work
Many years ago, a local car dealer in my home town in Indiana had one of these (red) and I took it for a test drive, fully intending (initially, at least) to buy it, but it had some very dubious (and expensive) sounds coming from the brake calipers (a sort of ominous rattling, if you will). They simply wanted too much $$ for the condition it was in, and they refused all of my counter offers, so I decided to pass.
Where are all the new Coupe's nowadays, I miss them.
Legendary car was the Audi Quattro my late Uncle had a red one in the mid 80's earlier 10 valve does sound better
The more rare Audi Sport Quattro is even better to stare at.
I had an identical car back in 1991 and it cost me £3200! If only I still had it now.
Missing a zero.
@@seshoz Nope. These were cheap to buy back then. Even my E30 M3 was only £5k.
@@Retrobeemer not a H reg though surely, I probably took you a bit literally.
10:29 RIP little bug
40 Years of Quattro👏👏👏
Well done Audi!!!
Yet none of us can go to any events to celebrate it *sigh*
@@Live-by2vk Yeah you're right,luckily I was at the London Classic Show in February so there I saw a great fleet of Classic Audis inc. Sport Quattro and also S1 E2 and a few more which made my year
crazy costume change 5 mins in lol
That sound !!!
Those seat mounts are easily fixed, the same nylon bushes as a Golf! I have the same car in Tornado Red, which you see with me driving it over The Crown Range near Queenstown New Zealand here: ruclips.net/video/BlRMwAIictE/видео.html