Donna Mcmaster yes the truth of revelation shows you so much of that God is in control and that the trinity the farther the son and the Holy Ghost are all one and are getting is kingdom really for all that truly believe in the gospel GOD AND HIS KINGDOM IS ALL THAT Counts not the world of man but THE TRUTH OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD
THE 24 ELDERS. We can know WHO they are if we let God be true and every man a liar. THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also GLORIFIED TOGETHER. WE SHALL BE GLORIFIED TOGETHER. THE BIBLE SAYS: Hebrews 11:39 And these all (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, etc), having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. THE BIBLE MAKES CLEAR THAT EVEN THOSE OF OLD TESTAMENT TIMES, OF WHOM THE PROMISES WERE MADE "SHALL NOT" BE MADE PERFECT (GLORIFIED) WITHOUT US. AND LAST, there are certain promises made ONLY to the Church, the OVERCOMERS: 1 John 5:4-5 (KJV) 4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? OVERCOMERS ARE BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS AND JESUS HIMSELF HAS PROMISED THE BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS, HIS CHURCH THE FOLLOWING: Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. ONLY the Church is promised to sit on the Throne with Jesus... JESUS ALSO PROMISED THE OVERCOMERS (BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS) : Revelation 3:5 “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.” THE CHURCH SHALL BE CLOTHED IN WHITE RAIMENT.... WE READ: Ephesians 1:7 King James Version (KJV) 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; THE CHURCH is promised REDEMPTION BY JESUS BLOOD... WE READ: Revelation 1:6 “And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.” Revelation 20:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. THE CHURCH is promised to be made KINGS AND PRIESTS AND TO REIGN. THE CHURCH is promised CROWNS.... And what do we see in Rev. 4 & 5? A group of PEOPLE singing the NEW song of redemption, by JESUS BLOOD out of every KINDRED, TONGUE, PEOPLE AND NATION, and they sing about being made KINGS AND PRIESTS and about reigning. THEY ARE seated at the THRONE, they wear GOLD CROWNS and they are CLOTHED IN WHITE RAIMENT. IF WE STAND-NOTHING WAVERING, ON WHAT THE WORD OF GOD HAS SAID,....THAT GROUP CAN ONLY BE THE CHURCH. And they are shown in their position of inheritance, joint heirs with Christ because JUDGEMENT FIRST "BEGINS" AT THE HOUSE OF GOD. 24 is a number used in the Old Testament to describe a larger group, and things written aforetime were written for our learning...and REVELATION means UNVEILING. 24 was used in the Old Testament TWICE to represent a LARGER group: 1.) King David divided the Levitical priesthood into 24 orders, (1 Chronicles 24:3-5). Each order represented the entire priestly tribe and the whole nation of Israel as it functioned before God. 2.) In 1 Chronicles 25 King David did a similar dividing into 24 of the singers and musicians who would perform worship in the Temple. There were 288 musicians total and King David had them divided into 24 divisions, so similar to the previous chapter, 24 symbolizes the whole group. Elders of which peter called himself one are those with authority to judge. Saints shall judge with Christ. Now, what is the original Greek word translated to "ELDER" in the Original language and it's meaning? An ELDER of which Peter called himself one (1 Peter 5), Peter a Jew....who was not "out of every kindred, tongue people and nation".... HELPS Word-studies 4245 presbýteros - properly, a mature man having seasoned judgment (experience); an elder. WHO is promised to JUDGE WITH CHRIST according to the word? 1 Corinthians 6:2 (KJV) 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? ..... Jude. 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. THE 24 ELDERS REPRESENT THE CHURCH.
This teaching is based on so old date theory that is called dispensationalism. It is an overstatment that John's vision is a picture of rapture, which totally mislead to understanding the book of Revelation.
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Revelation is so interesting - keep it up, Pastor!
Donna Mcmaster yes the truth of revelation shows you so much of that God is in control and that the trinity the farther the son and the Holy Ghost are all one and are getting is kingdom really for all that truly believe in the gospel
GOD AND HIS KINGDOM IS ALL THAT Counts not the world of man but THE TRUTH OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD
The sound is too low for me to hear.
THE 24 ELDERS. We can know WHO they are if we let God be true and every man a liar.
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS:
Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also GLORIFIED TOGETHER.
WE SHALL BE GLORIFIED TOGETHER.
THE BIBLE SAYS:
Hebrews 11:39 And these all (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, etc), having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
THE BIBLE MAKES CLEAR THAT EVEN THOSE OF OLD TESTAMENT TIMES, OF WHOM THE PROMISES WERE MADE "SHALL NOT" BE MADE PERFECT (GLORIFIED) WITHOUT US.
AND LAST, there are certain promises made ONLY to the Church, the OVERCOMERS:
1 John 5:4-5 (KJV)
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
OVERCOMERS ARE BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS AND JESUS HIMSELF HAS PROMISED THE BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS, HIS CHURCH THE FOLLOWING:
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
ONLY the Church is promised to sit on the Throne with Jesus...
JESUS ALSO PROMISED THE OVERCOMERS (BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS) :
Revelation 3:5 “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.”
THE CHURCH SHALL BE CLOTHED IN WHITE RAIMENT....
WE READ:
Ephesians 1:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
THE CHURCH is promised REDEMPTION BY JESUS BLOOD...
WE READ:
Revelation 1:6 “And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”
Revelation 20:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
THE CHURCH is promised to be made KINGS AND PRIESTS AND TO REIGN.
THE CHURCH is promised CROWNS....
And what do we see in Rev. 4 & 5?
A group of PEOPLE singing the NEW song of redemption, by JESUS BLOOD out of every KINDRED, TONGUE, PEOPLE AND NATION, and they sing about being made KINGS AND PRIESTS and about reigning. THEY ARE seated at the THRONE, they wear GOLD CROWNS and they are CLOTHED IN WHITE RAIMENT.
IF WE STAND-NOTHING WAVERING, ON WHAT THE WORD OF GOD HAS SAID,....THAT GROUP CAN ONLY BE THE CHURCH.
And they are shown in their position of inheritance, joint heirs with Christ because JUDGEMENT FIRST "BEGINS" AT THE HOUSE OF GOD.
24 is a number used in the Old Testament to describe a larger group, and things written aforetime were written for our learning...and REVELATION means UNVEILING.
24 was used in the Old Testament TWICE to represent a LARGER group:
1.) King David divided the Levitical priesthood into 24 orders, (1 Chronicles 24:3-5). Each order represented the entire priestly tribe and the whole nation of Israel as it functioned before God.
2.) In 1 Chronicles 25 King David did a similar dividing into 24 of the singers and musicians who would perform worship in the Temple. There were 288 musicians total and King David had them divided into 24 divisions, so similar to the previous chapter, 24 symbolizes the whole group.
Elders of which peter called himself one are those with authority to judge.
Saints shall judge with Christ.
Now, what is the original Greek word translated to "ELDER" in the Original language and it's meaning? An ELDER of which Peter called himself one (1 Peter 5), Peter a Jew....who was not "out of every kindred, tongue people and nation"....
HELPS Word-studies
4245 presbýteros - properly, a mature man having seasoned judgment (experience); an elder.
WHO is promised to JUDGE WITH CHRIST according to the word?
1 Corinthians 6:2 (KJV)
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? .....
Jude. 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
THE 24 ELDERS REPRESENT THE CHURCH.
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This teaching is based on so old date theory that is called dispensationalism.
It is an overstatment that John's vision is a picture of rapture, which totally mislead to understanding the book of Revelation.