Really great video Andy. I think I know the stretch you fished. Just what I needed to see after having watched the gauges at Mayfield and Doverage (plus the Churnet, which seems to dump a lot of extra water and colour into the river below Rocester) for the past two and a bit weeks with a extremely glum face. There was, I thought, no way that the river would be in any sort of condition to fish effectively during that time. I felt here would be spots along the Staffordshire bank where I could get in and wade but glimpses of the Dove as it passes below the A38 and from Tutbury bridge convinced me there was no point trying. To be honest I would have said it was just about ok for trotting. How wrong I was it seems. Fantastic to see you work the river, manipulate the rod and leader, listen to you explain your thinking and fly choices. I sorted my kit late Sunday ready to go this Monday. Guess what! Rain last night and the river has spiked again! I'll have to wait but not as long this time. Keep the videos coming.
The churnet makes a huge difference, for me the churnet is the start of the lower river. It's always coloured water coming from the churnet. I find anything below 0.45 on the rocester gauge is fishable but not comfortable, below 0.38 is a bit more easy going!
I fish the churnet at Alton and I like it around 450 to 500 I always seem to do OK but it colours up very quickly after a bit of rain which I hate as it's a fair track for me. That's fishing though. Love the video m8 👏👏
@@IBandAndyFishing If you don’t mind me asking Andy what did the Rocester gauge read the day you went? For myself I’m looking for 0.55( steady or falling) for Mayfield ( there are quite a few nasty rocks scattered around that can make life difficult for me if it’s too coloured. I’d be looking for 0.7 (steady or falling ) for Doverage. The bottom is much cleaner on this stretch. This would be at any time of the year given that for particular heights the flow can feel very different when in the river. I’d look for 0.8 for Doverage to feel happy about getting across the river at our chosen crossing points.
So good to see this when I’ve been missing coming up to Derbyshire since the last time I saw you due to the weather conditions you describe. Brilliant vlog, thanks Andy!
A lovely watch there Andy. I don’t know anything about fly fishing but often watch Robbie from Australia. He will lure, fly and bait fish for trout in tiny rivers. He often does well on a falling river and he believes it’s due to all the bait (mostly worms) that have been washed in to the system. To be fair his skinny waters are tiny in comparison but I’m sure the same rules would apply? It was nice seeing the drone footage of the fields too where you can see a definitive wash line. Do you ever get fish stranded in the fields?
We do, yes, the landowner here had rescued a few over the years! Definitely a good time to get on the rivers, as they're dropping and clearing after a good flush through - this one was a bit more than that though 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing hopefully after all this bad weather we get a nice calm few weeks for fishing. Your a good lad for helping out the snaggedbro's, they had a couple of nice grayling 🎣👍
@@IBandAndyFishing I've only started watching them over the last couple of months I think there not to bad on the fly alot better than me. I'm in full pike mode now lol but I do miss spring/summer river fishing far more adundant time of year.
I honestly think EA need to rethink the trout and migratory fish open and close dates. The migratory fish are turning up later every year and people are catching sea trout when going for salmon into December. The brownies are definitely not spawning yet and the last couple of times I've gone for grayling it's felt like I should be fishing a duo for trout, except for the date.
I can't speak for the whole country, but certainly around here, the trout never spawn in October. Our season could end a month later than it does. Likewise, they're rarely spawning past January. That said, I don't fancy trout fishing in February 🙈😂
I think if the seasons are partly based on restrictions for keeping fish to eat, then the season could easily end on November 1st with no problems, I don’t know anyone who actually takes fish anymore anyway, it’s barbless catch and release everywhere so like Andy says they aren’t spawning till later for sure, can only think it’s tied to the shooting season which does have significance on the rivers I fish, but most of them are open for Grayling anyway, so it’s ok to get shot if your grayling fishing lol😂
Got out on my first session today too, so this vid was a great watch (as always) 👌🏻 if you every run out of ideas would love to see a video of the float style indicator vs the tactical sighter type. I was struggling to read the sighter compared to floating indicator/klink. Cheers mate 🙌🏼
Well done Andy! Some nice grayling there. That Douglas DXF? Does it have features like down locking reel seat, correct guides and placement? Or is it an older model?
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You could, but you'll find you'll achieve longer and higher quality drifts, with flies lower in the water column for longer, with the modern nymohing techniques. The results are night and day 👍
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Like that you got out despite recent flooding and that it paid off!!
a case of making do with what we've got this winter, it's been awful! Thanks so much!
Enjoyed that Andy, shame the brownies were running interference but still a great grayling session.
They were driving me bonkers by the end Jan, they need to be told!
Andy another super vlog that makes me want to stop work and jump into the car…hopefully catch up again soon
I hope you managed to get up Jon, it's been a terrible winter!
Great video the weather hasn't been the best lately, glad you managed to get out
thanks Stephen, it didn't get any better this winter, did it?!
@@IBandAndyFishing Nope it was pretty horrible
Superb blog Andy, love the discussion on how and why in slacks off the main flow.
thanks Clive! They're not often in the heavy stuff at this time of year that's for sure
Thanks Andy. I was hoping you’d come through the floods ok
spoke too soon on that one Tim!
Looking forward to hearing how the DXF performs. Tight lines.
coming soon!
Really great video Andy.
I think I know the stretch you fished. Just what I needed to see after having watched the gauges at Mayfield and Doverage (plus the Churnet, which seems to dump a lot of extra water and colour into the river below Rocester) for the past two and a bit weeks with a extremely glum face.
There was, I thought, no way that the river would be in any sort of condition to fish effectively during that time. I felt here would be spots along the Staffordshire bank where I could get in and wade but glimpses of the Dove as it passes below the A38 and from Tutbury bridge convinced me there was no point trying.
To be honest I would have said it was just about ok for trotting.
How wrong I was it seems.
Fantastic to see you work the river, manipulate the rod and leader, listen to you explain your thinking and fly choices.
I sorted my kit late Sunday ready to go this Monday. Guess what!
Rain last night and the river has spiked again!
I'll have to wait but not as long this time.
Keep the videos coming.
The churnet makes a huge difference, for me the churnet is the start of the lower river. It's always coloured water coming from the churnet.
I find anything below 0.45 on the rocester gauge is fishable but not comfortable, below 0.38 is a bit more easy going!
I fish the churnet at Alton and I like it around 450 to 500 I always seem to do OK but it colours up very quickly after a bit of rain which I hate as it's a fair track for me. That's fishing though. Love the video m8 👏👏
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If you don’t mind me asking Andy what did the Rocester gauge read the day you went?
For myself I’m looking for 0.55( steady or falling) for Mayfield ( there are quite a few nasty rocks scattered around that can make life difficult for me if it’s too coloured.
I’d be looking for 0.7 (steady or falling ) for Doverage. The bottom is much cleaner on this stretch. This would be at any time of the year given that for particular heights the flow can feel very different when in the river. I’d look for 0.8 for Doverage to feel happy about getting across the river at our chosen crossing points.
So good to see this when I’ve been missing coming up to Derbyshire since the last time I saw you due to the weather conditions you describe.
Brilliant vlog, thanks Andy!
Thanks Phil! More rain falling at the moment, what a month this has been.....
That’s extreme weather events for you!
Brilliant, thank you very much for sharing. What a lovely fish the Grayling are.
thanks bud, fantastic fish aren't they?!
Amazing, I’m as surprised as you that you found some fishable water. You’ve inspired me to head up that way soon
It's pissing it down right now bud, keep your eye on the gauges!
A lovely watch there Andy. I don’t know anything about fly fishing but often watch Robbie from Australia. He will lure, fly and bait fish for trout in tiny rivers. He often does well on a falling river and he believes it’s due to all the bait (mostly worms) that have been washed in to the system. To be fair his skinny waters are tiny in comparison but I’m sure the same rules would apply? It was nice seeing the drone footage of the fields too where you can see a definitive wash line. Do you ever get fish stranded in the fields?
We do, yes, the landowner here had rescued a few over the years! Definitely a good time to get on the rivers, as they're dropping and clearing after a good flush through - this one was a bit more than that though 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing I think everyone was caught out with the sheer volume of water to be fair
The night It was all forecast I very confidently told IB it wouldn't be as bad as they were saying.........👀
@@IBandAndyFishing Andy aka Michael fish 😂😂
Absolute shocker from me 😂
Great video Andy, could you euro nymph for Grayling with a 12 foot tenkara set up ?
Nice 1 Andy tough conditions, water levels in northern Ireland are crazy at the moment
Thanks David! All over the place here too, it's looking like it could be wild in the next week too
@@IBandAndyFishing hopefully after all this bad weather we get a nice calm few weeks for fishing. Your a good lad for helping out the snaggedbro's, they had a couple of nice grayling 🎣👍
Crikey, that was a while ago now! I ought to catch up with them, see if they'd give the fly another go....
@@IBandAndyFishing I've only started watching them over the last couple of months I think there not to bad on the fly alot better than me. I'm in full pike mode now lol but I do miss spring/summer river fishing far more adundant time of year.
I honestly think EA need to rethink the trout and migratory fish open and close dates. The migratory fish are turning up later every year and people are catching sea trout when going for salmon into December. The brownies are definitely not spawning yet and the last couple of times I've gone for grayling it's felt like I should be fishing a duo for trout, except for the date.
I can't speak for the whole country, but certainly around here, the trout never spawn in October. Our season could end a month later than it does. Likewise, they're rarely spawning past January. That said, I don't fancy trout fishing in February 🙈😂
I think if the seasons are partly based on restrictions for keeping fish to eat, then the season could easily end on November 1st with no problems, I don’t know anyone who actually takes fish anymore anyway, it’s barbless catch and release everywhere so like Andy says they aren’t spawning till later for sure, can only think it’s tied to the shooting season which does have significance on the rivers I fish, but most of them are open for Grayling anyway, so it’s ok to get shot if your grayling fishing lol😂
@@marklamude2355 I knew grayling fishing was hardcore but nobody believed me! 😂
Got out on my first session today too, so this vid was a great watch (as always) 👌🏻 if you every run out of ideas would love to see a video of the float style indicator vs the tactical sighter type. I was struggling to read the sighter compared to floating indicator/klink. Cheers mate 🙌🏼
That's a video we have done once before ➡️ ruclips.net/video/XN1q8LGiveA/видео.html
Maybe time for a rematch!
@@IBandAndyFishing cheers will check it out 🔥 but would also gladly watch the rematch 😂
Well done Andy! Some nice grayling there.
That Douglas DXF? Does it have features like down locking reel seat, correct guides and placement?
Or is it an older model?
It does, yes, pretty much all the features you'd expect from a euro specific rod 👍👍
Thanks 👍
No stress, happy to help!
Can you tell me the line set up for euro nymphing please , so is it normal fly line then fluorocarbon then tippet? , and how do I tie top dropper?
It's all here bud
➡️ ruclips.net/video/-abFnc0w05Q/видео.html
The full kit is in the webshop here
➡️ www.abangling.co.uk/product/euro-nymphing-in-a-box/
@@IBandAndyFishing thank you, could I not just use a single wet fly to catch grayling?
You could, but you'll find you'll achieve longer and higher quality drifts, with flies lower in the water column for longer, with the modern nymohing techniques. The results are night and day 👍
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🤣🤣double plug
This is why I'm always late 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing I'll be praying for more storms in the future
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