I have a 52 built in 1939 that my uncle won the 1943 outdoor small bore national championship with. I also have his trophy. He shot 399/39X in that match. He shot on the r8fle team at St John's Military Academy, and my grandfather coached the team. I have both a Lyman Targetspot 10X scope and iron peep sights for it (Marble's front sight and Redfield peep). I also attended SJMA (1965-1969) and used it there. The other team members were shooting the latest Anschutz rifles, and I could always outshot them with my 52. Great rifles, truly beyond compare.
same with me, as I advanced with U.S.A. Shooting and N.R.A. I was able to do some modifications with stock and barrel tapering. I was oh so good with it. had it stolen in the 74.
I've got a model 52b target rifle made in 1940.. excellent condition...and I would put it up against any rifle made...flawless in form and function....until you fire one and experience the trigger and build quality it is impossible to describe to someone...definitely the Rolls Royce of rifles.
Those old guns just flat shoot. I got a couple Remington targetmasters that are almost 90 years old and they shoot almost as good as my cz match rifle....
For some reason the smell of Aguila .22 ammo reminds me of the small caps we had back in my younger days as loading with the red paper rolls of caps into a cap pistol gun. I grew up in the 60's.
I used to take a whole role , put in in a pair of pliers, take the pliers and hit the concrete curb, as if using a hammer, I only did it a couple of times, the blast was a little much for me.
I agree with you on the Marlin 39A. I was on a college competitive rifle team that had 52Ds from the ROTC . I loved these target rifles. A problem occurred when the army required the bolts to be stored in a separate location. We didn’t know about the complicated method of removing and reinstalling the bolts. We released the trigger pull which caused a few slam fires so they were replaced with Remington 513s. These were much inferior.
I’ve got a Winchester m72 bolt that was made in 1937. It is very accurate and shoots circles around my 10 yr old marlin. My dad then I grew up shooting it and it will go to one of my kids or grandkids. Still iron sights.
Hi there mate from Australia those supreme ammo was made in Victoria Australia when we used to make ammo but now the factory is used as a distabution centre for Winchester Australia all our ammo now comes from you guys anyway have a great weekend.
These Reproductions were superbly made by MIROKU in Japan under the Browning name in 1991 & 1992 . From 1993 - 2002 they had the Winchester Logo on the barrel .
The Miroku's are like Supers with the black end cap and super style sling swivels. They are better than the original 52 because the Miroku is made like a Super Grade Mod 70. Amazing rifles.
Well it's 5 am coffee time here in Litchfield PA. And a real treat this morning. A new posting in the 22 series. And a model 52 sporter. If I was only allowed one more rifle in my collection. It would be the model 52 winchester .22 . I would just as soon have the reproduction as an original. Thank you very much for yet another fine video in the 22 series. Some small game hunting friends of mine in our annual squirrel camp . ( yes squirrel camp) often discus the "Grand Slam" of 22 rifles. The 52win sporter,581 rem and the marlin 39 A. In that order seems to be the top three. Of course the win 9422, the browning T Bolt. And a list of others always are trying to be added. But the top three always remain. Thanks again,
Have an original Winchester Model 75. My mentor, Charles "Doc" Shick, told me, when changing .22 ammunition, clean the barrel, and fire two fouling rounds before shooting for group...
Another great rimfire rifle....the Winchester model 75. I once had the chance to get an original, but stupidly walked away from it. I wish I had the chance again. Anyway , you are correct in regards to fouling the barrel for accuracy testing any brand of ammo. I'll be doing some more rimfire videos soon because our spring squirrel season starts next week, so watch for more from my channel. Thanks for your comment, and suggestion. It is appreciated.
Yes. Mine is a 1948 B with the super heavy barrel and the original Lyman sights, and is in beautiful condition. I also have a Ken Vianni mount that is used with a Weaver T24 when I shoot USBR. It placed second team All American in 1957 being shot by a student from MIT. It`s amazing!
Those were made by Miroku in Japan. In fact, the Model 12's made by Miroku were actually of better quality than the later Winchester produced ones. And that Browning you mentioned was manufactured by Miroku as well.
When I am testing 22lr ammo, I put the first 5 rounds of each ammo into the backstop, I have found it is almost as good as cleaning the rifle. if someone wants a 52 they also sold it under the Browning name and these may be easier to find.
Lower the trigger pull light as it goes. My Anschutz and Cooper are set 2 1/4 lbs from the factory. Both will shoot in the 0.2’s at 50yds with Eley HP’s. That Win 52 is a beauty.
Thanks, I adjusted the trigger pull after I made the video, and accuracy did improve as you suggested. I also tried those Eley Hp's, and they are amazingly accurate out of my rifles, and they expand beautifully.
I have an older H&R plainsman reminds me of the winchester your showing, it will feed all rounds though. Nice wood with what looks like a bolt that is glassed and it is so smooth. Sometimes the bolt can be a pain to get in and out, but I will take the time to get it right. The only thing I have anymore is time. Keep up the great videos, I hate to say it but I'm addicted to the 22 format
I just the other day picked up a Japanese made Winchester model 52B Utah Centennial (1896-2016) in BEAUTIFUL CONDITION but no scope mounts. Who makes it proper mounts for that rifle?!!! Thank YOU sir for all your interesting and beneficial videos!! I'm a DEFINITE 22LR LOVER of both rifles and pistols, NEW and OLD ONES!!!😉😁👍 At the same place that I got the Winchester 52B I also got a German made Walther PP Sport-C with the ORIGINAL BOX, 3 spare mags, spare 8" barrel (came with the 6") the counter weight for the 8" barrel, test target and the paperwork from the original owner a serviceman stationed in Germany back in 1969. He brought it back with him so there are NO IMPORT MARKS and it is in 90-95% bluing!!!!😁👍 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!😁👍
Thanks so much for your videos about.22 rimfire rifles ! I’m a rimfire fan myself ; & a Winchester 52 Sporter nut ! I’ve owned several of the 52 repros ; but had to sell them several years ago ; due to job losses . I’m hoping to get one in a bit less than a year as a retirement present 🎁 ! 😁
I recently bought one of these rifles and I’m completely satisfied with the quality, workmanship and accuracy. I fitted my rifle with a 2-7X scope and it will group 3/8” at 50 yards with CCI Blazer, Federal Match, and American Eagle. With Federal 550 and Winchester white box bulk ammo I still get 3/4” to 1-1/8” group at 50 yards. I have bought some Eley yellow box target and some Eley black box match ammo to try out. I’m really interested to see how it does. I would like to lighten my trigger a few more pounds and read something about a “lawyers pin” that will not allow the trigger to be adjusted below 5 pounds. I’m not sure the pull weight on my particular rifle but it does seem somewhat heavier than what I would consider to be a precision trigger.
I cant recall the model but our grade school shooting club had several bolt action winchesters with heavy bukk barreks anf adjustable peep sights. they were crazy accurate
Just a note the flat head screw head in the center diamonds actually used to apply pressure to the barrel usually they are left backed out to let the barrel free float but that is shooters choice if it helps with accuracy but they are finicky with barrel pressure . Just food for thought . Beautiful gun I had one years ago but had to get rid of it
I have one and I use my finger to push down the sear, it's quite easy to remove and install the bolt. Try cci quiets mine shoots 5 into one hole at 25yds, not a ragged hole, one hole.
Nice little Rifle I have my Father's M72 Target He shot in ROTC Matches in the 40's It is still the most accurate Firearm I own and will go to my Nephew in a few years
Beautiful looking firearm for sure. Just a shame that now days a shooter can not hardly enjoy the simple pleasures of life due to the ridiculous cost of 22 rimfire ammo all due to greedy people.
The cost of ammo has definately gone up in the past two years. I have seen the availability improve over the last few months, and as time goes on the prices should come down, but I don't think they will ever return to what we saw in the past.
I love my Model 61 Winchester pump ( 1947) Mine is in near mint. And is a nail driver at 50 yards and groups nickel at 100 yards with Super X solid round nose-- copper jackets
Another great .22 video. The Winchester 52 and the Remington 541 are on my bucket list. I have two of the 69A’s, which I refer to as the “poor man’s 52.” I’m sure your groups will tighten up with time and maybe a scope with higher magnification. Squirrels beware!!!! That sure is a beautiful gun. I recently had an opportunity to test fire a Browning reproduction of the Winchester Model 12 in 28 gauge. It was also made in Japan and was a Grade 5 gun. Beautiful wood, great engraving, gold inlays, and high polish metal. The Japanese reproductions were made by Miroku, I believe. You are on a roll, two great videos in the past two days.
I got lucky with this rifle when I acquired it. After doing some shooting with it, I can see that it holds great promise in terms of precision and accuracy. I just need to do some more experimenting.This is what I consider fun.
I just bought the browning model 52 (identical to your Winchester but just has the browning roll marks). Mine is set up with a 4x12 rimfire scope and is sighted in for 50 yards. I am extremely impressed with mine! I am not normally a great shot but I can hit golf balls at 75 yards and soda bottles at 100 yards with it. It would be so much fun to hunt squirrels with it if I ever hunted. Great video and great rifle! Now I know why they don’t come up for sale often
Be prepared to pay quite a bit for. A 541. I bought mine new in 93 when it came out and paid 285 bucks, Now one on really good condition brings upwards of 6 to 800 bucks. Best shooting 22 I,ve ever had. Must have shot over 700 squirrels with it over the years. FOND, FOND MEMORIES.
I have a 52D from the 60s. To reinstall the bolt I just push the trigger forward again and reinsert the bolt. Normally I get about .5" groups @50yds. Will try some high end ammo and see how it does.
Anschutz rifles are on the top shelf in terms of quality and accuracy. No wonder being made in Germany. They have always taken pride in their gun making ability. The Bavarian firearm/airgun factories are world class!
4 in a group with a flyer, pretty consistent. That would likely be solved by a bit of glass bedding. Watch some of Cavedweller1959’s videos on accuracy and bedding. He doesn’t go berserk hogging out half the stock, just enough to tighten the fit of the action to keep it in exactly the same place shot to shot. I’ve done it and it works.
Model 52's have a factory set bedding and it wouldn't be prudent to devalue the rifle by trying to fix such a minor deviation that is most likely ammo related. My model 52 is on par with my Vudoo custom rifle at double the cost of my old model 52. A better optic is the issue he has here.
@@c10wiremantawwallace13 Exactly...not sure what the Japanese produced 52 sporters are selling for but an original 52 sporter in excellent condition will be north of 3k and that's not something you want to mess with....I'd just experiment with different ammos until I found the one it likes the best...and yes match grade Eley and Lapua are pricey but there is a distinct difference.
@@ar6985 I went to an auction a year ago. Two real ones sold North of $4k. Two Miroku copies went for $2200 each. Way out of my league. This is the only rifle still on my want list.
I would say it is the best ever made I had a old model with full stock and barrel band . Made some God unbelievable shots with it on small game . Bandtail pigeons rabbits quail etc. Mine had a lyman reciever sight . It was stolen in 1983
I thought your groups were fine in the first 4 targets, especially for old eyes and a 4x scope. That gun is fine, you just need to determine what round it likes the best, buy enough of it to make you happy and change the scope for better target definition. Sure wish I had one of them.
I had a 1939 model 52C. It had an old spring mounted, large tube scope with no name or markings on it. It shot the best group I have ever fired with anything. My best 5 shot group measured 0.078" @ 50 yards. Yes the decimal point is in the right place. It was shot using Federal ultramatch ammo.
Excellent video and what a beautiful rifle! I recently watched a video on the CZ 457 .22 cal bolt action. He also tested about 5 different types of ammunition and interestingly enough the Eley also preformed the best if not second to it.
Eley does make some great .22 rimfire ammo. Sadly though, according to what I heard from my ammo dealer, Eley is planning on discontinuing their .22 rimfire production.
The 52s are nice rifles. After you shoot that one a bit and do some tinkering, it's accuracy will amaze you. A more powerful scope would help for sure. The problem with mounting a bigger scope on the 52 is the bolt handle. It comes up too high. You will work it out and have fun in the process. Nice video and good hunting.
Very nice There are a few Vintage Anschutz rifles made that I’m sure are of great quality/best quality as well. Since they are still producing them I will/plan to take one seriously into consideration.
I don’t know who made that rifle, but I have an original target model 52 speed lock made in 1932 and all you have to do to remove and replace the bolt is pull the trigger. That’s it. Maybe it has something to do with the model type. IMHO you need to shoot at least 10 shots of each brand to season the barrel before you shoot for groups.
The 52 Win ! The rifle just about everyone wanted in the sixties, including me. The target version left a hard legacy to beat. I have an Anshutz. I had to spend the cash to get a rifle as good as the old win. 52s.
Thanks! I would say a nice one would cost around the $1,200 range. Original 52's are even higher. Keep looking around, because you never know when you will run across one at a pawn shop, or flea market for much less.
Reminds me of a model 70 only in 22 I love the mossberg 144b target but this is a man size 22if you would pls try your Remington mag in there my old Glenn field safety is forward off safety that's a pain
My original (mfg 1929) hit the EXACT geometric center of the target with first shot. I was tempted to set the rifle down and walk away. Knew I'd never do any better
The CZ 457 might be the best made .22 rifle on the market today (although that is a matter of opinion), however the Winchester model 52 is no longer commercially available. I have shot the CZ 457, and must say that in terms of construction it lacks the level of quality that the Win. 52 clearly has. For example the locking system of the CZ is simply the bolt handle base against the rear of the receiver. I realize that the .22 cartridge doesn't produce the same pressures as most centerfire cartridges do, but in my opinion the bolt handle should be for operating the bolt, and locking lugs should incorporate the action lock-up. The one I shot had a safety that operated in the opposite direction of what I am accustomed to, but that can be tolerated. That being said, CZ's are relatively accurate shooters, and many folks that own them swear by them.
Folks ….times have changed. This year at the ISSF 3P men’s final at the world championships in Egypt there were no CZ or Anschutz rifles on the line. Out of 8 shooters 6 were Walther KK500’s one Bleiker and one G&E . I also own a Win 52C that i shot in high school and a Anschutz 1813 supermatch that I shot competitively till about 6 years ago. Both very accurate rifles. What has changed is the ergonomics. The loading ports are moved so far back that breaking position is far less, in turn yielding better scores. Also the stocks are so adjustable that now you can VERY accurately dial in your position. Still love the old rifles but the above mentioned ones are now in the Olympic spotlight.
Beautiful beautiful old winchester. not impressed with some of that ammo however. would like to have seen the mini-mag accuracy. I've had Marlin Mod 60's that would put 15 shots in that little red dot but I was using a 4.5-14x42 scope, from a solid rest. It's easy to do when one can aim at the exact same spot each shot. Takes all the guess work out of it. As far as accuracy in a 22 rifle; I believe the Ruger 77/22 is the most accurate I've ever shot. At 25yds, I barely could see a different hole out of 10 shots. It was incredible not to be some expensive bench rest competition rifle. Enjoy your vids very much.
I have 2 mags for my model 69. One of them is for 22 lr and long and one is for shorts and has a spacer in it. You need the specific magazine. But I don't know if it would fit since it's not a 69a. Just a model 69.
I didn't know they did the reproductions all the way back in the 80s. I have really enjoyed your recent videos. Would you consider doing a cleaning video? Specifically what you would do for any used 22 you may buy when you are not sure of how it was maintained. Thanks Ps...when does the season start up your way?
I wish the made guns like this today such a elegant beautiful rifle I like the Remington 514 models to but the Winchester model 52 was a american icon nice rifle sir.
Someone came from a town around 45 minutes away from where I lived and was trying to jew the pawn shop attendant down in the price of the model 52 Winchester target rifle.while was trying to get the price down, I bought it. He WAS NOT HAPPY!
Yes it was but now days a custom job with modern ammunition would probably trump it accuracy wise.Still a fine piece of kit and shooting history lovely example.
Ok Well first of all the Browning and Winchester imports from Miroku Japan are actually top of the line firearms, and are definately not "cheap knockoffs". I have a 20 gauge Browning BPS that was made there. In all the years I owned it, that gun has taken hundreds of quail, dove and clay pigeons, and never failed to fire, eject, load or shoot, and after thousands of shots it is still as tight as ever. The tooling in those Japanese factories is more precise, and tolerances are more exact than ever before. If you don't believe me look it up, and if you are still not convinced....oh well to each their own. @@danmarcell3167
Does the bolt on this reproduction rifle remove and install by using the exact same procedure needed for the original production? Is the safety located on this reproduction rifle in exactly the same location as on the original? Do the originals 52s come marked for the capability to load and fire 22 Short ammunition, do the original 52 instructions specify 22 Short firing? Will the original 52 rifles cycle 22 Short ammunition?
@CumberlandOutdoorsman mate cmp auction site they have them regular basis right now they have unissued h and r .22. And mossberg. They post for 10 days garand collector and proof of marksmanship then set up account bid away shipmate
I have been wanting one of these for 10 years or more,I am currently Bidding on one of these and I am pretty sure I WILL have one Soon! could you tell me are the Bases Burris too? Almost looks like Leupold. I Need to know what works anything you could share, Thank You!
my brother had a 52 and I had a remington 37 we were forced to sell both. I would like to purchase on or the other for old tome sake. Any idea where I could find one for sale?
Actually you just hold the trigger down to put the bolt back in. Something is wrong with yours if you need to apply additional pressure to the disconnect. Both of mine will return with the trigger pressed.
Is that the way the actual Winchester 52 bolts were installed and removed? I have a 1931 model 52 and just bought a new in box old stock model 52 B from Japan. The bolt came removed from the riffle. I don't think a gun smith could figure out that bolt without instructions. That's insane. LOL
It is a very nice rifle and I am sure it shoots great but to say it is the best ever made is a stretch. From studies I have read done on .22 long rifle rifles it was found the best most accurate .22's were all made in Germany and in the United States the Remington was next. The 10/22 Ruger actually did quite well but I did not see a Winchester in the finals.
The German rifles are superb, no doubt. I have held some of the finer Anschutz bolt actions, and can appreciate the fine workmanship. I own a few German (Weihrauch) made air rifles, and they are truly of utmost high quality. The reason I titled the video that way was not a statement, but merely a question to fellow shooters.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I think the term "best" is subjective and broad anyway. To some (including me), I think that the model 52's design, craftmanship, eye apeal, etc puts it up there among the best overall 22's in my opinion. Are there more accurate .22's? Sure, but unless you are competing for an olympic medal, the difference is immaterial for most of us shooters. There is no one gun that is the most accurate AND the lightest AND the best designed AND the highest build quality AND the easiest to clean AND, AND, AND...... That is why we all own several guns. I own the Browning 52 reproduction and love it. I have not owned some of the higher end .22's discussed like Anschutz but I do own several high end guns and this 52 would be one of the last ones I sell. I can not think of a bolt action .22 that I would want to replace it with.
I have a 52 built in 1939 that my uncle won the 1943 outdoor small bore national championship with. I also have his trophy. He shot 399/39X in that match. He shot on the r8fle team at St John's Military Academy, and my grandfather coached the team. I have both a Lyman Targetspot 10X scope and iron peep sights for it (Marble's front sight and Redfield peep). I also attended SJMA (1965-1969) and used it there. The other team members were shooting the latest Anschutz rifles, and I could always outshot them with my 52. Great rifles, truly beyond compare.
Bl9ke anshutz step above chester
I've got a 52C that I was competing with 57 years ago. Absolutely love that rifle.
Nice to see you still own the rifle. Thanks.
same with me, as I advanced with U.S.A. Shooting and N.R.A. I was able to do some modifications with stock and barrel tapering. I was oh so good with it. had it stolen in the 74.
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I've got a model 52b target rifle made in 1940.. excellent condition...and I would put it up against any rifle made...flawless in form and function....until you fire one and experience the trigger and build quality it is impossible to describe to someone...definitely the Rolls Royce of rifles.
I can see you recognize a fine rifle when it's in your hands.
Have my dad's. Model 52
Those old guns just flat shoot.
I got a couple Remington targetmasters that are almost 90 years old and they shoot almost as good as my cz match rifle....
@@Stickbow1980 Yes! The old Remingtons are fine rifles too.
I acquired my great uncles 52c for Christmas last year with 25 powered Lyman scope. Trigger on this thing is second to none.
For some reason the smell of Aguila .22 ammo reminds me of the small caps we had back in my younger days as loading with the red paper rolls of caps into a cap pistol gun. I grew up in the 60's.
I used to play with those red rolls of cap gun, caps. Loved them
@@ronsmith5411 Those were the days of my youth as well. To me that Aguila ammo reminds my nose of super glue for some reason.
I used to take a whole role , put in in a pair of pliers, take the pliers and hit the concrete curb, as if using a hammer, I only did it a couple of times, the blast was a little much for me.
Cool!
Marlin 39A. Lever action. Smooth as silk, and extremely accurate.
I also own a 39A. Great rifle, well made, but not nearly as accurate as my Win. 52.
I agree with you on the Marlin 39A. I was on a college competitive rifle team that had 52Ds from the ROTC . I loved these target rifles. A problem occurred when the army required the bolts to be stored in a separate location. We didn’t know about the complicated method of removing and reinstalling the bolts. We released the trigger pull which caused a few slam fires so they were replaced with Remington 513s. These were much inferior.
I just bought one just like that, today. Beautiful rifles. Thanks for the video. My new sporter will go with my 1949 model B heavy barrel.
I have a 52B made in 1951. Like new. It's a gem ! Never saw one less than 4K at a gun show.
I’ve got a Winchester m72 bolt that was made in 1937. It is very accurate and shoots circles around my 10 yr old marlin. My dad then I grew up shooting it and it will go to one of my kids or grandkids. Still iron sights.
A prized family treasure! Thanks for sharing.
I hope you are right.
Hi there mate from Australia those supreme ammo was made in Victoria Australia when we used to make ammo but now the factory is used as a distabution centre for Winchester Australia all our ammo now comes from you guys anyway have a great weekend.
These Reproductions were superbly made by MIROKU in Japan under the Browning name in 1991 & 1992 . From 1993 - 2002 they had the Winchester Logo on the barrel .
Thanks for your comment. Good information.
The Miroku's are like Supers with the black end cap and super style sling swivels. They are better than the original 52 because the Miroku is made like a Super Grade Mod 70. Amazing rifles.
Well it's 5 am coffee time here in Litchfield PA. And a real treat this morning. A new posting in the 22 series. And a model 52 sporter. If I was only allowed one more rifle in my collection. It would be the model 52 winchester .22 . I would just as soon have the reproduction as an original. Thank you very much for yet another fine video in the 22 series. Some small game hunting friends of mine in our annual squirrel camp . ( yes squirrel camp) often discus the "Grand Slam" of 22 rifles. The 52win sporter,581 rem and the marlin 39 A. In that order seems to be the top three. Of course the win 9422, the browning T Bolt. And a list of others always are trying to be added. But the top three always remain. Thanks again,
All great rifles for sure. I really appreciate your comments, and am glad to see you enjoyed the video.
Have an original Winchester Model 75. My mentor, Charles "Doc" Shick, told me, when changing .22 ammunition, clean the barrel, and fire two fouling rounds before shooting for group...
Another great rimfire rifle....the Winchester model 75. I once had the chance to get an original, but stupidly walked away from it. I wish I had the chance again. Anyway , you are correct in regards to fouling the barrel for accuracy testing any brand of ammo. I'll be doing some more rimfire videos soon because our spring squirrel season starts next week, so watch for more from my channel. Thanks for your comment, and suggestion. It is appreciated.
Yes. Mine is a 1948 B with the super heavy barrel and the original Lyman sights, and is in beautiful condition. I also have a Ken Vianni mount that is used with a Weaver T24 when I shoot USBR. It placed second team All American in 1957 being shot by a student from MIT. It`s amazing!
That is a great looking piece of firearms craftsmanship👍
Nice gun / I have a Winchester model 72 and have iron sights only / very accurate little rifle
Those were made by Miroku in Japan. In fact, the Model 12's made by Miroku were actually of better quality than the later Winchester produced ones. And that Browning you mentioned was manufactured by Miroku as well.
That's a beauty you got there
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
When I am testing 22lr ammo, I put the first 5 rounds of each ammo into the backstop, I have found it is almost as good as cleaning the rifle. if someone wants a 52 they also sold it under the Browning name and these may be easier to find.
Good points Eric, thanks for sharing.
Lower the trigger pull light as it goes. My Anschutz and Cooper are set 2 1/4 lbs from the factory. Both will shoot in the 0.2’s at 50yds with Eley HP’s. That Win 52 is a beauty.
Thanks, I adjusted the trigger pull after I made the video, and accuracy did improve as you suggested. I also tried those Eley Hp's, and they are amazingly accurate out of my rifles, and they expand beautifully.
I’d also recommend RWS HP’s in the subsonic and high velocity for testing. Thanks for the video.
I have an older H&R plainsman reminds me of the winchester your showing, it will feed all rounds though. Nice wood with what looks like a bolt that is glassed and it is so smooth. Sometimes the bolt can be a pain to get in and out, but I will take the time to get it right. The only thing I have anymore is time. Keep up the great videos, I hate to say it but I'm addicted to the 22 format
Another great looking bolt action 22 from the man. Good video Tom.
Thanks Doug.
I just the other day picked up a Japanese made Winchester model 52B Utah Centennial (1896-2016) in BEAUTIFUL CONDITION but no scope mounts. Who makes it proper mounts for that rifle?!!! Thank YOU sir for all your interesting and beneficial videos!! I'm a DEFINITE 22LR LOVER of both rifles and pistols, NEW and OLD ONES!!!😉😁👍 At the same place that I got the Winchester 52B I also got a German made Walther PP Sport-C with the ORIGINAL BOX, 3 spare mags, spare 8" barrel (came with the 6") the counter weight for the 8" barrel, test target and the paperwork from the original owner a serviceman stationed in Germany back in 1969. He brought it back with him so there are NO IMPORT MARKS and it is in 90-95% bluing!!!!😁👍 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!😁👍
Thanks so much for your videos about.22 rimfire rifles ! I’m a rimfire fan myself ; & a Winchester 52 Sporter nut ! I’ve owned several of the 52 repros ; but had to sell them several years ago ; due to job losses . I’m hoping to get one in a bit less than a year as a retirement present 🎁 ! 😁
I recently bought one of these rifles and I’m completely satisfied with the quality, workmanship and accuracy. I fitted my rifle with a 2-7X scope and it will group 3/8” at 50 yards with CCI Blazer, Federal Match, and American Eagle.
With Federal 550 and Winchester white box bulk ammo I still get 3/4” to 1-1/8” group at 50 yards.
I have bought some Eley yellow box target and some Eley black box match ammo to try out. I’m really interested to see how it does.
I would like to lighten my trigger a few more pounds and read something about a “lawyers pin” that will not allow the trigger to be adjusted below 5 pounds. I’m not sure the pull weight on my particular rifle but it does seem somewhat heavier than what I would consider to be a precision trigger.
Very good review. Thanks.
I cant recall the model but our grade school shooting club had several bolt action winchesters with heavy bukk barreks anf adjustable peep sights. they were crazy accurate
Just a note the flat head screw head in the center diamonds actually used to apply pressure to the barrel usually they are left backed out to let the barrel free float but that is shooters choice if it helps with accuracy but they are finicky with barrel pressure . Just food for thought .
Beautiful gun I had one years ago but had to get rid of it
It is simply Gorgeous. Wood and steel can’t beat the feel.👍👍👍🇺🇸✌🏻🙏🏽😎
Wow That’s a 22 Caliber Version of a Model 70 I Love The Workmanship and Quality Of This Winchester Rifle I’ll Be Looking For 1 Now 😮😊😀
Nice way to describe the 52. They do indeed have much in common with the model 70. I hope you find a nice one for yourself.
There was a time when a Model 52 cost more than a Model 70 Super Grade. Big money, $192 vs $197.
I have one and I use my finger to push down the sear, it's quite easy to remove and install the bolt. Try cci quiets mine shoots 5 into one hole at 25yds, not a ragged hole, one hole.
Every time I watch one of your videos I start looking for a new rifle. Lol
Nice little Rifle
I have my Father's M72 Target
He shot in ROTC Matches in the 40's
It is still the most accurate Firearm I own and will go to my Nephew in a few years
Flawless craftsmanship and beauty. ❤
Beautiful looking firearm for sure. Just a shame that now days a shooter can not hardly enjoy the simple pleasures of life due to the ridiculous cost of 22 rimfire ammo all due to greedy people.
The cost of ammo has definately gone up in the past two years. I have seen the availability improve over the last few months, and as time goes on the prices should come down, but I don't think they will ever return to what we saw in the past.
I love my Model 61 Winchester pump ( 1947) Mine is in near mint. And is a nail driver at 50 yards and groups nickel at 100 yards with Super X solid round nose-- copper jackets
Another great .22 video. The Winchester 52 and the Remington 541 are on my bucket list. I have two of the 69A’s, which I refer to as the “poor man’s 52.” I’m sure your groups will tighten up with time and maybe a scope with higher magnification. Squirrels beware!!!! That sure is a beautiful gun. I recently had an opportunity to test fire a Browning reproduction of the Winchester Model 12 in 28 gauge. It was also made in Japan and was a Grade 5 gun. Beautiful wood, great engraving, gold inlays, and high polish metal. The Japanese reproductions were made by Miroku, I believe. You are on a roll, two great videos in the past two days.
I got lucky with this rifle when I acquired it. After doing some shooting with it, I can see that it holds great promise in terms of precision and accuracy. I just need to do some more experimenting.This is what I consider fun.
I just bought the browning model 52 (identical to your Winchester but just has the browning roll marks). Mine is set up with a 4x12 rimfire scope and is sighted in for 50 yards. I am extremely impressed with mine! I am not normally a great shot but I can hit golf balls at 75 yards and soda bottles at 100 yards with it. It would be so much fun to hunt squirrels with it if I ever hunted. Great video and great rifle! Now I know why they don’t come up for sale often
Be prepared to pay quite a bit for. A 541. I bought mine new in 93 when it came out and paid 285 bucks, Now one on really good condition brings upwards of 6 to 800 bucks. Best shooting 22 I,ve ever had. Must have shot over 700 squirrels with it over the years. FOND, FOND MEMORIES.
I have a 52D from the 60s. To reinstall the bolt I just push the trigger forward again and reinsert the bolt. Normally I get about .5" groups @50yds. Will try some high end ammo and see how it does.
Allwas loved mine too... mine is identical to yours... thankyou very much
That Is An Awesome Awesome 22, But Me Personally; I Like The Anschutz Model 54 Sporter In Either 22 L.R Or The 54M 22 Magnum.
Anschutz rifles are on the top shelf in terms of quality and accuracy. No wonder being made in Germany. They have always taken pride in their gun making ability. The Bavarian firearm/airgun factories are world class!
4 in a group with a flyer, pretty consistent. That would likely be solved by a bit of glass bedding. Watch some of Cavedweller1959’s videos on accuracy and bedding. He doesn’t go berserk hogging out half the stock, just enough to tighten the fit of the action to keep it in exactly the same place shot to shot. I’ve done it and it works.
Model 52's have a factory set bedding and it wouldn't be prudent to devalue the rifle by trying to fix such a minor deviation that is most likely ammo related.
My model 52 is on par with my Vudoo custom rifle at double the cost of my old model 52. A better optic is the issue he has here.
@@c10wiremantawwallace13 Exactly...not sure what the Japanese produced 52 sporters are selling for but an original 52 sporter in excellent condition will be north of 3k and that's not something you want to mess with....I'd just experiment with different ammos until I found the one it likes the best...and yes match grade Eley and Lapua are pricey but there is a distinct difference.
@@ar6985 I went to an auction a year ago. Two real ones sold North of $4k. Two Miroku copies went for $2200 each. Way out of my league. This is the only rifle still on my want list.
I would say it is the best ever made I had a old model with full stock and barrel band .
Made some God unbelievable shots with it on small game .
Bandtail pigeons rabbits quail etc.
Mine had a lyman reciever sight .
It was stolen in 1983
It looks like a very nice piece
I thought your groups were fine in the first 4 targets, especially for old eyes and a 4x scope. That gun is fine, you just need to determine what round it likes the best, buy enough of it to make you happy and change the scope for better target definition. Sure wish I had one of them.
Indeed. Every rifle has it's preference.
Beautiful rifle.
Winchester loved to make 22's that looked like there Center fire rifles.
I had a 1939 model 52C. It had an old spring mounted, large tube scope with no name or markings on it. It shot the best group I have ever fired with anything. My best 5 shot group measured 0.078" @ 50 yards. Yes the decimal point is in the right place. It was shot using Federal ultramatch ammo.
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Outstanding rifle.
Nice to see a comment from someone that knows quality when they see it.
Excellent video and what a beautiful rifle! I recently watched a video on the CZ 457 .22 cal bolt action. He also tested about 5 different types of ammunition and interestingly enough the Eley also preformed the best if not second to it.
Eley does make some great .22 rimfire ammo. Sadly though, according to what I heard from my ammo dealer, Eley is planning on discontinuing their .22 rimfire production.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman sounds like i will be stocking up. gunbroker seems to have a abundant supply as well as some other sites that i came across.
The 52s are nice rifles. After you shoot that one a bit and do some tinkering, it's accuracy will amaze you. A more powerful scope would help for sure. The problem with mounting a bigger scope on the 52 is the bolt handle. It comes up too high. You will work it out and have fun in the process. Nice video and good hunting.
I look forward to getting the kind of accuracy you mentioned. When I do I'll post another video of this rifle. Thanks for your vote of confidence.
Very nice rifle!!! You should be proud.
Very nice
There are a few Vintage Anschutz rifles made that I’m sure are of great quality/best quality as well. Since they are still producing them I will/plan to take one seriously into consideration.
I don’t know who made that rifle, but I have an original target model 52 speed lock made in 1932 and all you have to do to remove and replace the bolt is pull the trigger. That’s it. Maybe it has something to do with the model type. IMHO you need to shoot at least 10 shots of each brand to season the barrel before you shoot for groups.
The 52 Win ! The rifle just about everyone wanted in the sixties, including me. The target version left a hard legacy to beat. I have an Anshutz. I had to spend the cash to get a rifle as good as the old win. 52s.
Great video. What price would be considered a fair price for one of these rifles in your opinion? Thanks
Thanks! I would say a nice one would cost around the $1,200 range. Original 52's are even higher. Keep looking around, because you never know when you will run across one at a pawn shop, or flea market for much less.
Reminds me of a model 70 only in 22 I love the mossberg 144b target but this is a man size 22if you would pls try your Remington mag in there my old Glenn field safety is forward off safety that's a pain
You can use your pinky nail on your left hand to push down the sear but still is not as easy as it should be.
I'll have to try it next time I clean the gun. Thanks for the suggestion.
great videos
My original (mfg 1929) hit the EXACT geometric center of the target with first shot. I was tempted to set the rifle down and walk away. Knew I'd never do any better
Very fine.
Thanks, happy to see you liked it.
The CZ 457 is by far the best .22LR chambered, precision made rifle on the marked today. Many models to choose from, all are great!
The CZ 457 might be the best made .22 rifle on the market today (although that is a matter of opinion), however the Winchester model 52 is no longer commercially available. I have shot the CZ 457, and must say that in terms of construction it lacks the level of quality that the Win. 52 clearly has. For example the locking system of the CZ is simply the bolt handle base against the rear of the receiver. I realize that the .22 cartridge doesn't produce the same pressures as most centerfire cartridges do, but in my opinion the bolt handle should be for operating the bolt, and locking lugs should incorporate the action lock-up. The one I shot had a safety that operated in the opposite direction of what I am accustomed to, but that can be tolerated. That being said, CZ's are relatively accurate shooters, and many folks that own them swear by them.
are you forgetting about anschutz who dominate olympic competitions and have been making some of the most accurate rimfire rifles for decades
Anschütz makes the best .22 rifles of any kind. They have no equal. The Winchester 52 was great though. An CZ is the way to go on a budget.
@@CandidZulu totally agree
Folks ….times have changed. This year at the ISSF 3P men’s final at the world championships in Egypt there were no CZ or Anschutz rifles on the line. Out of 8 shooters 6 were Walther KK500’s one Bleiker and one G&E . I also own a Win 52C that i shot in high school and a Anschutz 1813 supermatch that I shot competitively till about 6 years ago. Both very accurate rifles. What has changed is the ergonomics. The loading ports are moved so far back that breaking position is far less, in turn yielding better scores. Also the stocks are so adjustable that now you can VERY accurately dial in your position. Still love the old rifles but the above mentioned ones are now in the Olympic spotlight.
These guns are gems. Like the cz 452s. Thx for showing.
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Beautiful beautiful old winchester. not impressed with some of that ammo however. would like to have seen the mini-mag accuracy. I've had Marlin Mod 60's that would put 15 shots in that little red dot but I was using a 4.5-14x42 scope, from a solid rest. It's easy to do when one can aim at the exact same spot each shot. Takes all the guess work out of it. As far as accuracy in a 22 rifle; I believe the Ruger 77/22 is the most accurate I've ever shot. At 25yds, I barely could see a different hole out of 10 shots. It was incredible not to be some expensive bench rest competition rifle. Enjoy your vids very much.
I have 2 mags for my model 69. One of them is for 22 lr and long and one is for shorts and has a spacer in it. You need the specific magazine. But I don't know if it would fit since it's not a 69a. Just a model 69.
I can't wait until the left-handed version comes out!
Hands down,this is the best looking .22 rifle.
I have the 52 and 75 target with redfield micrometer peeps. What you mentioned is called. ‘fouling’ shots.
Ilike the old model 22rifle long barel and bolt action ,,it's good for shot on long distance
I didn't know they did the reproductions all the way back in the 80s. I have really enjoyed your recent videos. Would you consider doing a cleaning video? Specifically what you would do for any used 22 you may buy when you are not sure of how it was maintained. Thanks Ps...when does the season start up your way?
Great idea. Thanks for the suggestion. I was wondering about doing a cleaning video.
Are these guns still being made by Miroku in Japan?
I wish the made guns like this today such a elegant beautiful rifle I like the Remington 514 models to but the Winchester model 52 was a american icon nice rifle sir.
Someone came from a town around 45 minutes away from where I lived and was trying to jew the pawn shop attendant down in the price of the model 52 Winchester target rifle.while was trying to get the price down, I bought it. He WAS NOT HAPPY!
Yes it was but now days a custom job with modern ammunition would probably trump it accuracy wise.Still a fine piece of kit and shooting history lovely example.
I wonder if the vertical stringing might be caused by parallax .
Hard to beat the 52's and the 40x rifles. My choice would be the Remmy for domestic produced rifles.
I tend to agree. Remington rifles have a special quality for me on a personal level.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsmanI would rather have a real US made rifle than some cheap knockoff
Ok Well first of all the Browning and Winchester imports from Miroku Japan are actually top of the line firearms, and are definately not "cheap knockoffs". I have a 20 gauge Browning BPS that was made there. In all the years I owned it, that gun has taken hundreds of quail, dove and clay pigeons, and never failed to fire, eject, load or shoot, and after thousands of shots it is still as tight as ever. The tooling in those Japanese factories is more precise, and tolerances are more exact than ever before. If you don't believe me look it up, and if you are still not convinced....oh well to each their own. @@danmarcell3167
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman lie to yourself all you want to but there's no real legacy in fake Winchesters
Does the bolt on this reproduction rifle remove and install by using the exact same procedure needed for the original production? Is the safety located on this reproduction rifle in exactly the same location as on the original? Do the originals 52s come marked for the capability to load and fire 22 Short ammunition, do the original 52 instructions specify 22 Short firing? Will the original 52 rifles cycle 22 Short ammunition?
Bloke whats ur thoughts on remington 40x mate
I don't personally own a Remington 40x, but I sure would like to. Solidly built, and extremely accurate. Hard to come by though.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman tons of um on cmp auction yank.
@@comodice905 Hmm....went to the auction site, and it said none were available. Maybe something went wrong.
@CumberlandOutdoorsman mate cmp auction site they have them regular basis right now they have unissued h and r .22. And mossberg. They post for 10 days garand collector and proof of marksmanship then set up account bid away shipmate
Really interesting fact. THESE LITTLE GEMS were more expensive than their big brother, The pre 64 winchester model 70 BACK IN THE DAY. WOW.
Take a look at the remington model 541!
I have been wanting one of these for 10 years or more,I am currently Bidding on one of these and I am pretty sure I WILL have one Soon! could you tell me are the Bases Burris too? Almost looks like Leupold. I Need to know what works anything you could share, Thank You!
Gorgeous rifle! How much do you want for it?
I don't really want to part with it. I do see them for sale on Gunbroker from time to time.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I don't blame you! Hold on to that beauty forever.
How do you know if it's an a b c or d after model 52?
Appearance wise it compares very much as my 1948 model 70 super grade in 300 H&H magnum.
The older Winchesters were pretty much good quality.
São lindas demais as armas da winchester, gosto demais de armas👍🏻
Have a pure 52 serial # 1508 in NRA Perfect.
Wow! I am in awe.
my brother had a 52 and I had a remington 37 we were forced to sell both. I would like to purchase on or the other for old tome sake. Any idea where I could find one for sale?
i used to shoot a 52D target rifle
It looks just like my Browning Model 52.
Grandpa handed me his it’s wonderful
Actually you just hold the trigger down to put the bolt back in. Something is wrong with yours if you need to apply additional pressure to the disconnect. Both of mine will return with the trigger pressed.
What you think they are worth today been looking just don’t know if the price is right
Imagine if Winchester had installed machined trigger guards on the mod 52? A rifleman's rifle lil brother!
Is that the way the actual Winchester 52 bolts were installed and removed? I have a 1931 model 52 and just bought a new in box old stock model 52 B from Japan. The bolt came removed from the riffle. I don't think a gun smith could figure out that bolt without instructions. That's insane. LOL
Barrel temperature change?
In all your videos why is shotgun fire always in the background? Just wondering.
My ruger 10-22 shoots a group equal to your model 52
Nice rifle
Is your 10-22 an older model? A friend of mine has one (early vintage) that came from the factory with a walnut stock. It's also a good shooter.
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1980 model approximately Roger Mark 3 pistol with heavy barrel very accurate at 50 yds..
Which scope did you put on this rifle?
A vintage Redfield 4X wideview.
I think I’d settle for a 75 Sporter or one of your favorite Remingtons
I suppose it's all in dependent on what a person wants, and feels comfortable with.
I just acquired the same rifle, what brand of ammo does your rifle like best, would appreciate comments from any person that owns one?
It is a very nice rifle and I am sure it shoots great but to say it is the best ever made is a stretch. From studies I have read done on .22 long rifle rifles it was found the best most accurate .22's were all made in Germany and in the United States the Remington was next. The 10/22 Ruger actually did quite well but I did not see a Winchester in the finals.
The German rifles are superb, no doubt. I have held some of the finer Anschutz bolt actions, and can appreciate the fine workmanship. I own a few German (Weihrauch) made air rifles, and they are truly of utmost high quality. The reason I titled the video that way was not a statement, but merely a question to fellow shooters.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I think the term "best" is subjective and broad anyway. To some (including me), I think that the model 52's design, craftmanship, eye apeal, etc puts it up there among the best overall 22's in my opinion.
Are there more accurate .22's? Sure, but unless you are competing for an olympic medal, the difference is immaterial for most of us shooters.
There is no one gun that is the most accurate AND the lightest AND the best designed AND the highest build quality AND the easiest to clean AND, AND, AND......
That is why we all own several guns. I own the Browning 52 reproduction and love it. I have not owned some of the higher end .22's discussed like Anschutz but I do own several high end guns and this 52 would be one of the last ones I sell. I can not think of a bolt action .22 that I would want to replace it with.
Wish I could afford one