I think people should wait until a driver's career is over before discussing where they place in the record books. Max has a long career ahead of him .
lol, charles needs to start thinking a tiny bit more. carlos has no obligation to keep supporting him. carlos is focused on doing his very best and show him up that he is a valued driver for other teams to come. yes he is signed to williams next year but that impression and result speaks for themselves. charles needs to stop being a damn crybaby about it. like carlos said in post race. venting over the radio or to the media about it never ends positively. he wont have support when hamilton is his teammate. dudes aiming for his 8th title. does he seriously think that lewis is going to roll over for him? 🤣🤣🤣 charles needs to wake the f up and get busy focusing on showing his supposed talent everyone keeps raving on about, because all im still seeing is inconsistency.
I think it is very sad that Carlos moved to Maranello was 100% instrumental in developing that car, then finds out they are signing Hamilton before lights out, yet he has given his all every race. I think Lewis and Charles are not going to be a harmonious combination. Lewis has not been happy this year, having a team mate that he can't use for his advantage George has really come into his own now, before that everything revolved around Lewis. Ferrari do not cosset their drivers and Lewis is very sensitive. Lewis also wants to bring his DEI agenda to Ferrari to make change they have enough of their own politics going on. It looks like Charles may see Carlos in a different light this time next year..... Remembering the bromance of Prost and Mansell until the were put in a team together.....
there are a lot of "new fans" who are unaware of the history of "motor racing at the highest level" and just how good and absolutely crazy some of the drivers were in the past....
Enough with how many races Max has won in so few seasons. There's 24 races a season, now! How many more would Senna and Shumacher have won if they had 8 extra races per season?
Same with Lewis, those of us lucky enough to live through Senna, Schumacher and this era, this argument is so futile and there are great drivers that never got to win the Championship but were World class drivers. I learned all about history of Grand Prix because younger fans do not have a clue about drivers like Moss, Fangio, Stewart etc. Max does not want to stay in F1 long term either he has said that in numerous interviews.
I was more annoyed at Ferrari trying to de-rail Sainz's race with that aborted pit-call. They seemed to be baiting him into penalty territory, knowing he was already committed to the pit-stop.
Ferrari HAS influenced quite a few races to his advantage by telling Carlos to hold back or let Charles pass, especially this season. That has kind of spoiled Charles, therefor he probably expected Ferrari to order Carlos to let him pass again, despite the fact that HE, Charles, pretty much ruined his race in his first stint. Carlos has already gotten the boot from Ferrari and therefore has nothing to lose anymore, so why would he allow Ferrari to ruin HIS race so Charles can be on the podium?
Don't forget the no. of times Carlos has asked the team to inform Leclerc to not race him and put pressure on him and made leclerc slow down. Also don't forget his first win at the British gp was on Leclerc's expense and not his talented drive. One aspect Carlos is head and shoulders above Leclerc is on making his own strategy calls and overturning the team's call as well if he feels it's not the right decision.
IMO, Max isn't the greatest driver in history, but he is of his era. The reality of the situation is that there are two 7x WDC, and multiple multi WDC, and those who tragically never made it home on race day - different cars, rules, tracks and surfaces.
It is impossible to compare - a driver can only race against those of his time. Some drivers excel because they have the best car by far. The mark of a great is winning in unfavourable equipment - usually when conditions level the playing field.
@@-triumphgt667 My opinion of Lewis has gone down this year unless he has a winning car he is lacking in motivation unless the greats who thrive in not having the best equipment but getting results. Max proved that this year. Lewis implication that hat he qualified better he would have beat George was arrogant. Thats the point George came up with goods in qualifying. Max does his best every race whatever difficulties he is having. That is the mark of a great champion.
Next year is going to be a very tough year for Red Bull, Max won this year because of their great start to the season. But, if Max does win next year, while he wont have 7 titles, he could match Schumacher, who is the only driver to win 5 titles in a row, that would be some achievement. I have a feeling that next year will be Orange, but not Dutch :) what do you think?
0:05 Please don’t use this image of Danica Patrick ever again with reference to F1. She’s never turned a wheel in F1 and is generally clueless about everything.
From Fangio, Moss, Ascari.. To Lewis, Seb, and Alonso. We've had so many brilliant drivers. A lot of whom are the greatest of their eras. We can't really compare different eras after all.. for all we know Lewis and Max would have struggled in an F1 setting of the past with manual gear shift cars or Senna, Prost or Lauda wouldn't have been able to make as much of a driver difference in modern F1 cars.
No one can say who is the greatest by numbers. What Senna's comes number one, then MS is unbelievable. Though Lewis has equal championships with MS, he is nowhere close to him. As a Max fan, he has to do more to be the greatest apart from numbers. Also, Martin will never call him the GOAT because he doesn't like Max, and he's not British. Charles needs to grow up. He will see more of these when Lewis is next to him.
Lewis wants his 8th title. He will be tougher to beat than Carlos. Charles should leave his emocions in the garage when he puts his helmet on. Calculate in the car ( not overcooking his tyres, etc. ). In other words, grow up indeed.
Brundle is one of the few if not the only Brit commentator that is actually honest about his opinions. also it is just that ... an opinion. I'm Dutch, and a max fan. But for me Senna is still the greatest. wich is an opinion that can be debated till the end of time. doesn't mean it's wrong
That’s why they call him Max Power… 😂❤ Max is most definitely the greatest in my opinion and I don’t rate drivers on title numbers, just driving ability’s, this year Max definitely did not have the fastest car.. but still won with a few races to spare.
This was an incredible meltdown from LeClerc, who knows where he gets that from, meanwhile Brundle whos career pinacle was landing upside down in melbourne should look at the calls made
Charles has put up with so much over the years from Ferrari. Charles is fighting for second Carlos isn’t even a Ferrari driver after this year. Ferrari should be backing Charles.
He overcooked his tires in the first stint. The team tried to screw Carlos with the pitstop. So they are backing Charles. Carlos expected a 10 sec penalty, so he only tried to keep in front of the 5th car.
Ferrari thought they would win the race, Merc, somehow had the fastest car. That hurt. Charles, overcooked his tyres in trying to overtake Russell. That lost him time and track position. For me Senna is the best of all time. But so much depends on who is the best in the team, when that team has the best car. Hamilton would not have won 6 of his 7 world championships, if he was driving for any other team. If Alonso was at Merc instead he would be on 8 world championships. That said Max is right up there against as one of the best of this generation.
this is exactly what ive been saying about lc and the the fact ferrari about the dumb choice they have made about binning sai and keeping him ferraris driver choice over the yrs hasnt always been a good one instead of choosing a win donkeys yrs ago they took an italian over a scott right at the last min another wise from them
Yes I’ve been watching real F1 since Dijon 1979 yes real F1 cars and real F1 drivers. Todays cars are Formula E plus at best the greatest drivers will be Gilles Villenueve, Nigel Mansell, Alain Prost, Nicki Lauda, Ayrton Senna, Nelson Piquet, Jos Verstappen, Berger, Brundle and so on remember this was real F1 not these robot controlled cars that drove themselves and powered by electricity? Maybe Schumacher was real F1 not Hamilton fake Formula E plus at best. These guys can’t race and if they get within a foot of each other they whine and cry like girls like I said fake wrestling Formula E plus can’t compare at all.
You do the best you can with the machine put in your hands. I have no doubt that the current crop of guys will have done as well as the old timers. No doubt modern technology makes the difference but if we be has the talent and is determined to make it as a driver the machine will hardly make a difference.
It's Very Hard to call Max the Greatest Driver when he Took his Given his First Championship. Like Schumacher. His Unsportsman behaviour ( Like Michael) his Forcing his Opponents off the Track doesn't make him a Great Racing Driver!!
‘Champions’ after the introduction of DRS need to be taken with a grain of salt. Hamilton & Vettel & Alonso we’re all champions before DRS, but Verstappen isn’t and unless they get rid of DRS in the future, we can’t judge Verstappen. Also, we know now that Red Bull constantly have been developing illegally. This season in particular has seen the FIA come down hard on RB and the result was Verstappen stopped winning.
No one can say if Max is the greatest F1 driver around because formal one is not fair because all the cars are not the same like if you put Max or Lewis , Charles, Carlos, George into a Williams, alpine, RB, Haas are you going to say they are going to win and you could say you could put Franco or Liam or kevin , Nico or any other driver from the lower teams into one of the Mercedes or the Red Bull or the Ferrari or even the McLaren will they win this is not just down to the driver it is down to the car and if the team has built a good one and you can't say Max is the greatest or any other driver because how many times did these drivers take their hand off the steering wheel to change gear like they did in the 80s they have to drive a car we left down force and take one hand off the steering wheel to change gear the only way you can say which driver is the best in Formula 1 is to put them all back into Formula 2 or IndyCar because I presume all those cars are identical I'm saying a driver is the greatest all the drivers do the same job because Max is no different to anybody else in his family what races and Lewis is no different to his brother and Charles is no different to his family member who races
This has been shown in history in early careers drivers have took a whale of a car and put it where it had no right to be Senna in the Toleman is a prime example. Also in private tests there is a story of Ayrton testing a car as a favour to see if it was the car or the driver. He soon beat the contracted drivers performance and Ayrton got out the car and said he could have gone even quicker but did not want to destroy said drivers confidence..... Also when they F3 winners used to get an F1 test that was publicised Ayrton beat the contracted drivers times in Williams and Maclaren and their driver said it was time to retire! Be interesting to do what they did in the 80s when they put the cream of drivers in equal BMWs round the Nurenberg. A then little known driver called Ayrton Senna Da Silva beat them all....
hamilton came from tenth on the grid and literally drove right past sainz and le leclerc and built an almost 12 second lead on sainz. there is no way ferrari could have finished any higher than they did.. the mercs in cold air are extremely quick!!! and Max is not the best driver of all time in F1 he is up there but definitely NOT the greatest! he should only be a 3 time WDC as the 2021 win was stolen from hamilton by some really shady questionable skullduggery by the race director in that fateful race! latifi's well timed "crash" was for too convenient therefore highly suspect! add to shenanigans the fact that hamilton had an almost 30 second lead prior to that "fishy crash" with 4 laps to go, where hamilton would have won his 8th and unprecedented world drivers championship and damn well should have! had the race gone green the way it should have! that whole thing was an absolute robbery in broad daylight in front of 100's of millions of race fans around the world!
Then Massa should have won in 2008 because Bernie Ecclestone knew all about 'crashgate' and covered it up to protect the reputation of the sport following 'Ferrarigate', Bernie's own words so Hamilton would still only have seven. There is no way Flavio Briatore should be back in an F1 paddock he got a lifetime ban. Also got away with an illegal traction control in 1994. This creator is also wrong about Hamilton and Schumacher being greater than Ayrton. Saw them all Ayrton was the only one who did not need their team mate to ruin their own chances, to make them win races. Nope and Schumacher was a blatant cheat. Ayrton was targeted by the FIA President so before that argument is brought up go and read up on what actually happened and how Senna was deliberately robbed of the 1989 CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH LED TO 1990.
Max didn't steal that championship in 2021, it was the FIA meddling with the red flag, mainly due to an idiotic decision that year to let Team Principles talk to the Race Director (Massi). Now I understand that you feel that Hamilton was robbed, I get it, but it was Max's doing, Max and Lewis were driving cars, not harassing the race director. You can blame the Teams, you can blame the FIA, but it's unfair to blame the drivers, for want of a better term, they were just passengers at this point.
@@wildwalkeruk yes you are correct, as far as we know max was not involved, but his slithery like a snake father could very well hve had something to do with it all..... 😡😡
@@stugatz2664 Agreed, but confirmed not the drivers fault :) It was more likely Christian Horner, I think only Team Principles could communicate with the race director if I remember correctly?
Max is lucky if he’s in the top 5. Definitely not the greatest in the history. I doubt Max breaks Lewis’ or Schumacher’s win totals. Max has said a few times this year that this could be his last contract which expires 2028.
🤡🤡🤡 Did you forget to put your brain cell in before writing this? I have been watching F1 for 45 years remember you cannot rely on statistics as some of the championships had as little as nine races. The lack of factual knowledge on here is astounding. So many people on here need to look into Schumacher as a driver he had to cheat to be the greatest and use his team mate to win. That to me is a big red flag, Max has proven he does not need to use his team mate to win. Both Hamilton and Schumacher did this. Ayrton Senna had to fiercely compete against Prost, I watched them all and Max may not be quite up there but he is already in the top five. Unless you go right back like I have right back to the 30s and seen how good the early drivers were, the danger and what they were up against and how they still managed to win it is not statistics that tell the whole story as too many variables. Stirling Moss gave up the chance to win a Championship to Mike Hawthorn but he was formidable, Jim Clark was phenomenal. You guys are talking eras you don't have the knowledge to back up what you are talking about this RUclips creator included!!!! I've done my homework.
Michael Schumacher is the only driver to win 5 titles in a row, Max could do that next year (I personally think Red Bull will struggle next year) so if Max did win 2025 championship, he would be only one of two drivers to win 5 titles in a row, that is quite an achievement. Now Max has won 4 titles in a row, he has joined an exclusive club of Vettel, Fangio, Schumacher and Hamilton. Quite an achievement at his age as well.
He's won 4 Championships 1 given on a plate. Max isn't likable like his dad when he's taking a break banging the crew girls,. people skills of a Mosquito and his own fans not much emotion
Shows how much you know outside the car Max is a very likable person is family orientated, loves cats and dogs and has a great sense of humour. Not interested in hanging around shallow famous people, audacious statements of wealth or wanting to be photographed with prolific abusers.....
If you like Max, that's perfect, but there are lots of debatable assumptions at the end. Senna had to race a perfect computer-car, and sometimes he won, not Max's situation.
Martin Brundle may not have had a lot of podiums, but that does not mean he doesn't know what he is talking about. His technical knowledge of the sport is immense, and he does have the respect of the other drivers. Martin has also won in other categories including the prestigious Le Mans. In terms of his achievements compared to his fellow commentators (Hill excluded) he is one of the most knowledgeable.
No one see Sainz attack Gasly? Gasly started from 3rd while Sainz started from 2nd. In anywhere, great drivers will not attack driver in 3rd if he start 2nd! To win he must attack driver in front, in this case driver in front of Sainz is RUSSELL. But Sainz attack Gasly in 3rd who DNF few laps after. Why Sainz doesn't attack Russell like Piastri did to Norris in Monza? Piastri win in Baku when he attack Leclerc in front! It is strange Sainz in 2nd attack Gasly in 3rd and Sky F1+ fans praise him. Why he give Verstappen DRS so Verstappen hold off Leclerc behind for few laps? Sainz way that causing Ferrari panic and they lose the focus to pitting him! Sainz is the problem, not Ferrari.
Carlos is showing how wrong decision Ferrari have made to get rid of him . Hes racing for himself now
I think people should wait until a driver's career is over before discussing where they place in the record books. Max has a long career ahead of him .
lol, charles needs to start thinking a tiny bit more. carlos has no obligation to keep supporting him. carlos is focused on doing his very best and show him up that he is a valued driver for other teams to come. yes he is signed to williams next year but that impression and result speaks for themselves. charles needs to stop being a damn crybaby about it. like carlos said in post race. venting over the radio or to the media about it never ends positively.
he wont have support when hamilton is his teammate. dudes aiming for his 8th title. does he seriously think that lewis is going to roll over for him? 🤣🤣🤣
charles needs to wake the f up and get busy focusing on showing his supposed talent everyone keeps raving on about, because all im still seeing is inconsistency.
When did Sainz ever support him?
I think it is very sad that Carlos moved to Maranello was 100% instrumental in developing that car, then finds out they are signing Hamilton before lights out, yet he has given his all every race.
I think Lewis and Charles are not going to be a harmonious combination. Lewis has not been happy this year, having a team mate that he can't use for his advantage George has really come into his own now, before that everything revolved around Lewis. Ferrari do not cosset their drivers and Lewis is very sensitive.
Lewis also wants to bring his DEI agenda to Ferrari to make change they have enough of their own politics going on. It looks like Charles may see Carlos in a different light this time next year.....
Remembering the bromance of Prost and Mansell until the were put in a team together.....
@@mspupcat53or Prost & Senna
I guess maker of this clip never heard of Fangio who won in every car he drove which included Mercedes, Ferrari and Maserati
Or Brabham who not only won the title but built his own car to do it in.
Yes, and won races with different cars in the same season.
there are a lot of "new fans" who are unaware of the history of "motor racing at the highest level" and just how good and absolutely crazy some of the drivers were in the past....
Enough with how many races Max has won in so few seasons. There's 24 races a season, now! How many more would Senna and Shumacher have won if they had 8 extra races per season?
Same with Lewis, those of us lucky enough to live through Senna, Schumacher and this era, this argument is so futile and there are great drivers that never got to win the Championship but were World class drivers. I learned all about history of Grand Prix because younger fans do not have a clue about drivers like Moss, Fangio, Stewart etc. Max does not want to stay in F1 long term either he has said that in numerous interviews.
Percentage measure, still M4X best🎉
exactly!
Schumacher would have won less with more races as there is only so much cheating allowed in every season
I was more annoyed at Ferrari trying to de-rail Sainz's race with that aborted pit-call. They seemed to be baiting him into penalty territory, knowing he was already committed to the pit-stop.
There's simply no comparison possible: different cars, rules, amount of races per season.
Here’s how this video was created…” chat GPI, create a video for me”
Charles 's reaction was immature.😁😁😁
Sometimes the adrenalin gets the better of everyone. I'm sure they will work it out in the garage.
Ferrari HAS influenced quite a few races to his advantage by telling Carlos to hold back or let Charles pass, especially this season. That has kind of spoiled Charles, therefor he probably expected Ferrari to order Carlos to let him pass again, despite the fact that HE, Charles, pretty much ruined his race in his first stint. Carlos has already gotten the boot from Ferrari and therefore has nothing to lose anymore, so why would he allow Ferrari to ruin HIS race so Charles can be on the podium?
Don't forget the no. of times Carlos has asked the team to inform Leclerc to not race him and put pressure on him and made leclerc slow down. Also don't forget his first win at the British gp was on Leclerc's expense and not his talented drive. One aspect Carlos is head and shoulders above Leclerc is on making his own strategy calls and overturning the team's call as well if he feels it's not the right decision.
LOL, delusional Sharles fangirls everywhere.
Wtf u talking about , what f1 u watch dude ?
Carlos passed him because he expected a 10 sec. penalty. Again chaos at Ferarrri
Wait a moment.... Vettel?
Didn't Seb win 4 titles, in a row, for the same team.
✅ 2010 through 2013; they did mention Seb @ 5:22; Schumacher @ 7:33
@@alias19 True.
I meant, I'm sure people would have thought Seb was going to b the GOAT after his 4 wins.
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IMO, Max isn't the greatest driver in history, but he is of his era. The reality of the situation is that there are two 7x WDC, and multiple multi WDC, and those who tragically never made it home on race day - different cars, rules, tracks and surfaces.
Could t say it better myself!!
Life is bitter for some 😎
Martin Brundle is an idiot ☝️
It is impossible to compare - a driver can only race against those of his time. Some drivers excel because they have the best car by far. The mark of a great is winning in unfavourable equipment - usually when conditions level the playing field.
@@-triumphgt667 My opinion of Lewis has gone down this year unless he has a winning car he is lacking in motivation unless the greats who thrive in not having the best equipment but getting results. Max proved that this year. Lewis implication that hat he qualified better he would have beat George was arrogant. Thats the point George came up with goods in qualifying. Max does his best every race whatever difficulties he is having. That is the mark of a great champion.
Next year is going to be a very tough year for Red Bull, Max won this year because of their great start to the season. But, if Max does win next year, while he wont have 7 titles, he could match Schumacher, who is the only driver to win 5 titles in a row, that would be some achievement. I have a feeling that next year will be Orange, but not Dutch :) what do you think?
Someone just learned the word Monégasque.
0:05 Please don’t use this image of Danica Patrick ever again with reference to F1. She’s never turned a wheel in F1 and is generally clueless about everything.
I have always said Sainz is a better allround driver than lejerk and next year he WILL be no 2. to Hamilton!
From Fangio, Moss, Ascari.. To Lewis, Seb, and Alonso. We've had so many brilliant drivers. A lot of whom are the greatest of their eras.
We can't really compare different eras after all.. for all we know Lewis and Max would have struggled in an F1 setting of the past with manual gear shift cars or Senna, Prost or Lauda wouldn't have been able to make as much of a driver difference in modern F1 cars.
Ferrari has historically used their drivers as pawns playing against each other, usually to the detriment of the team
No one can say who is the greatest by numbers. What Senna's comes number one, then MS is unbelievable. Though Lewis has equal championships with MS, he is nowhere close to him. As a Max fan, he has to do more to be the greatest apart from numbers. Also, Martin will never call him the GOAT because he doesn't like Max, and he's not British. Charles needs to grow up. He will see more of these when Lewis is next to him.
Lewis wants his 8th title. He will be tougher to beat than Carlos. Charles should leave his emocions in the garage when he puts his helmet on. Calculate in the car ( not overcooking his tyres, etc. ). In other words, grow up indeed.
I suspect Brundle, like many British commentators, is wearing Union Jack coloured glasses when he looks at other drivers.
So, you missed the admiration that Martin has for Senna, Schumacher, Heikkinen, Vettel etc, you know, all those 'British' drivers?
Dutch person ?
Brundle is one of the few if not the only Brit commentator that is actually honest about his opinions. also it is just that ... an opinion.
I'm Dutch, and a max fan. But for me Senna is still the greatest.
wich is an opinion that can be debated till the end of time. doesn't mean it's wrong
Clearly, you don’t know Martin Brundle. I suspect you’re a DTS import.
@@banzai385 No, Australian actually but I do get rather fed up hearing the British commentators gushing over Hamilton, Russell and Norris.
That’s why they call him Max Power… 😂❤ Max is most definitely the greatest in my opinion and I don’t rate drivers on title numbers, just driving ability’s, this year Max definitely did not have the fastest car.. but still won with a few races to spare.
This was an incredible meltdown from LeClerc, who knows where he gets that from, meanwhile Brundle whos career pinacle was landing upside down in melbourne should look at the calls made
Charles has put up with so much over the years from Ferrari. Charles is fighting for second Carlos isn’t even a Ferrari driver after this year. Ferrari should be backing Charles.
He overcooked his tires in the first stint. The team tried to screw Carlos with the pitstop. So they are backing Charles. Carlos expected a 10 sec penalty, so he only tried to keep in front of the 5th car.
Ferrari thought they would win the race, Merc, somehow had the fastest car. That hurt.
Charles, overcooked his tyres in trying to overtake Russell. That lost him time and track position.
For me Senna is the best of all time. But so much depends on who is the best in the team, when that team has the best car. Hamilton would not have won 6 of his 7 world championships, if he was driving for any other team. If Alonso was at Merc instead he would be on 8 world championships. That said Max is right up there against as one of the best of this generation.
The GOATS came long ago. Apples and oranges. Put Max in a mid 50's car, see what happens.
Charles make's silly mistake's some thing i hope he will learn from Hamilton as a old hand.
Brundle the F1 presstitute
Carlos is the best Ferrari driver of the two. Vamos Carlos
Less emocional, calculating. More grown up.
They asked ALL the greatest drivers, most said Senna. Senna said Fangio. I have an idea to settle this once and for all. I might make a video.
this is exactly what ive been saying about lc and the the fact ferrari about the dumb choice they have made about binning sai and keeping him ferraris driver choice over the yrs hasnt always been a good one instead of choosing a win donkeys yrs ago they took an italian over a scott right at the last min another wise from them
Yes I’ve been watching real F1 since Dijon 1979 yes real F1 cars and real F1 drivers. Todays cars are Formula E plus at best the greatest drivers will be Gilles Villenueve, Nigel Mansell, Alain Prost, Nicki Lauda, Ayrton Senna, Nelson Piquet, Jos Verstappen, Berger, Brundle and so on remember this was real F1 not these robot controlled cars that drove themselves and powered by electricity? Maybe Schumacher was real F1 not Hamilton fake Formula E plus at best. These guys can’t race and if they get within a foot of each other they whine and cry like girls like I said fake wrestling Formula E plus can’t compare at all.
You do the best you can with the machine put in your hands. I have no doubt that the current crop of guys will have done as well as the old timers. No doubt modern technology makes the difference but if we be has the talent and is determined to make it as a driver the machine will hardly make a difference.
Vettel and Verstappen have a common denominator !
This doesn't fair well for Lewis!
It's Very Hard to call Max the Greatest Driver when he Took his Given his First Championship. Like Schumacher. His Unsportsman behaviour ( Like Michael) his Forcing his Opponents off the Track doesn't make him a Great Racing Driver!!
‘Champions’ after the introduction of DRS need to be taken with a grain of salt. Hamilton & Vettel & Alonso we’re all champions before DRS, but Verstappen isn’t and unless they get rid of DRS in the future, we can’t judge Verstappen. Also, we know now that Red Bull constantly have been developing illegally. This season in particular has seen the FIA come down hard on RB and the result was Verstappen stopped winning.
Prost took out Senna and a year later in reverse to win the championship. So all the greats but Fangio did it.
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No one can say if Max is the greatest F1 driver around because formal one is not fair because all the cars are not the same like if you put Max or Lewis , Charles, Carlos, George into a Williams, alpine, RB, Haas are you going to say they are going to win and you could say you could put Franco or Liam or kevin , Nico or any other driver from the lower teams into one of the Mercedes or the Red Bull or the Ferrari or even the McLaren will they win this is not just down to the driver it is down to the car and if the team has built a good one and you can't say Max is the greatest or any other driver because how many times did these drivers take their hand off the steering wheel to change gear like they did in the 80s they have to drive a car we left down force and take one hand off the steering wheel to change gear the only way you can say which driver is the best in Formula 1 is to put them all back into Formula 2 or IndyCar because I presume all those cars are identical I'm saying a driver is the greatest all the drivers do the same job because Max is no different to anybody else in his family what races and Lewis is no different to his brother and Charles is no different to his family member who races
And who’s fault is that? Great drivers find seats in great teams! An he’s not in the dominant car this year! Lando was! An he caved in!
I guess you think the same way as you write.
This has been shown in history in early careers drivers have took a whale of a car and put it where it had no right to be Senna in the Toleman is a prime example. Also in private tests there is a story of Ayrton testing a car as a favour to see if it was the car or the driver. He soon beat the contracted drivers performance and Ayrton got out the car and said he could have gone even quicker but did not want to destroy said drivers confidence.....
Also when they F3 winners used to get an F1 test that was publicised Ayrton beat the contracted drivers times in Williams and Maclaren and their driver said it was time to retire! Be interesting to do what they did in the 80s when they put the cream of drivers in equal BMWs round the Nurenberg. A then little known driver called Ayrton Senna Da Silva beat them all....
Max won 3 in a row…1st one doesn’t count since it was obviously given, lol.
how many races has Brundle won ?? i'll wait....
Brundle has always had a chip yes he was the only guy could beat Senna in F3 but he was nowhere near him in terms of ability.
hamilton came from tenth on the grid and literally drove right past sainz and le leclerc and built an almost 12 second lead on sainz. there is no way ferrari could have finished any higher than they did.. the mercs in cold air are extremely quick!!! and Max is not the best driver of all time in F1 he is up there but definitely NOT the greatest! he should only be a 3 time WDC as the 2021 win was stolen from hamilton by some really shady questionable skullduggery by the race director in that fateful race! latifi's well timed "crash" was for too convenient therefore highly suspect! add to shenanigans the fact that hamilton had an almost 30 second lead prior to that "fishy crash" with 4 laps to go, where hamilton would have won his 8th and unprecedented world drivers championship and damn well should have! had the race gone green the way it should have! that whole thing was an absolute robbery in broad daylight in front of 100's of millions of race fans around the world!
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Then Massa should have won in 2008 because Bernie Ecclestone knew all about 'crashgate' and covered it up to protect the reputation of the sport following 'Ferrarigate', Bernie's own words so Hamilton would still only have seven. There is no way Flavio Briatore should be back in an F1 paddock he got a lifetime ban. Also got away with an illegal traction control in 1994. This creator is also wrong about Hamilton and Schumacher being greater than Ayrton. Saw them all Ayrton was the only one who did not need their team mate to ruin their own chances, to make them win races. Nope and Schumacher was a blatant cheat. Ayrton was targeted by the FIA President so before that argument is brought up go and read up on what actually happened and how Senna was deliberately robbed of the 1989 CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH LED TO 1990.
Max didn't steal that championship in 2021, it was the FIA meddling with the red flag, mainly due to an idiotic decision that year to let Team Principles talk to the Race Director (Massi). Now I understand that you feel that Hamilton was robbed, I get it, but it was Max's doing, Max and Lewis were driving cars, not harassing the race director. You can blame the Teams, you can blame the FIA, but it's unfair to blame the drivers, for want of a better term, they were just passengers at this point.
@@wildwalkeruk yes you are correct, as far as we know max was not involved, but his slithery like a snake father could very well hve had something to do with it all..... 😡😡
@@stugatz2664 Agreed, but confirmed not the drivers fault :) It was more likely Christian Horner, I think only Team Principles could communicate with the race director if I remember correctly?
Max is lucky if he’s in the top 5. Definitely not the greatest in the history. I doubt Max breaks Lewis’ or Schumacher’s win totals. Max has said a few times this year that this could be his last contract which expires 2028.
🤡🤡🤡 Did you forget to put your brain cell in before writing this? I have been watching F1 for 45 years remember you cannot rely on statistics as some of the championships had as little as nine races. The lack of factual knowledge on here is astounding. So many people on here need to look into Schumacher as a driver he had to cheat to be the greatest and use his team mate to win. That to me is a big red flag, Max has proven he does not need to use his team mate to win. Both Hamilton and Schumacher did this. Ayrton Senna had to fiercely compete against Prost, I watched them all and Max may not be quite up there but he is already in the top five.
Unless you go right back like I have right back to the 30s and seen how good the early drivers were, the danger and what they were up against and how they still managed to win it is not statistics that tell the whole story as too many variables. Stirling Moss gave up the chance to win a Championship to Mike Hawthorn but he was formidable, Jim Clark was phenomenal. You guys are talking eras you don't have the knowledge to back up what you are talking about this RUclips creator included!!!! I've done my homework.
Michael Schumacher is the only driver to win 5 titles in a row, Max could do that next year (I personally think Red Bull will struggle next year) so if Max did win 2025 championship, he would be only one of two drivers to win 5 titles in a row, that is quite an achievement. Now Max has won 4 titles in a row, he has joined an exclusive club of Vettel, Fangio, Schumacher and Hamilton. Quite an achievement at his age as well.
Max is the greatest F1 Driver in the modern era. I totally agree with Martin"s comments. Each era has its greatest driver. Martin. (Thailand)
He's won 4 Championships 1 given on a plate. Max isn't likable like his dad when he's taking a break banging the crew girls,. people skills of a Mosquito and his own fans not much emotion
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Shows how much you know outside the car Max is a very likable person is family orientated, loves cats and dogs and has a great sense of humour. Not interested in hanging around shallow famous people, audacious statements of wealth or wanting to be photographed with prolific abusers.....
If you like Max, that's perfect, but there are lots of debatable assumptions at the end. Senna had to race a perfect computer-car, and sometimes he won, not Max's situation.
Brundles reaction would be completely different when Leclerc was British. Sad...
Martin Brundles opinions are worthless 0GP wins 9 podiums from approx 150 GP starts vs leClerc 8 GP wins & 41 podiums.
Martin Brundle may not have had a lot of podiums, but that does not mean he doesn't know what he is talking about. His technical knowledge of the sport is immense, and he does have the respect of the other drivers. Martin has also won in other categories including the prestigious Le Mans. In terms of his achievements compared to his fellow commentators (Hill excluded) he is one of the most knowledgeable.
You can’t say greatest driver….not while Hamilton is still on the track…..but it looks likely….love to see him race Le Mans.
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No one see Sainz attack Gasly? Gasly started from 3rd while Sainz started from 2nd. In anywhere, great drivers will not attack driver in 3rd if he start 2nd! To win he must attack driver in front, in this case driver in front of Sainz is RUSSELL. But Sainz attack Gasly in 3rd who DNF few laps after. Why Sainz doesn't attack Russell like Piastri did to Norris in Monza? Piastri win in Baku when he attack Leclerc in front! It is strange Sainz in 2nd attack Gasly in 3rd and Sky F1+ fans praise him. Why he give Verstappen DRS so Verstappen hold off Leclerc behind for few laps? Sainz way that causing Ferrari panic and they lose the focus to pitting him! Sainz is the problem, not Ferrari.
BRUNDLE WHO? BRITS BIAS RIGHT.