In my opinion, this was all caused by the team. Sainz requested to box for a good few laps and had lost a good few seconds over those laps and they didn't listen. They then tell him to box and then to stay out because they "were not ready". Why call him in then? 💀 Had they dealt with it properly, Sainz would have been ahead and there wouldn't have been this mess of not putting Charles under pressure etc etc
They also tell Carlos to hold back when Charles is going to have a slow outlap. In my opinion Carlos was in his right to get past thinking about the team and race Lap time. However, would have been better if he let Charles back through, but hey these are split second decisions at 300KpH. That's why I'm no driver😅😅
This is exactly most of the F1 commentators seems to ignore, the way Aldas puts it is a little misleading as he said Sainz is not following orders to let Charles by, but at that time Carlos was asking if he can Pit and get out of the way without doing the swap. The pit is hinting if Carlos it is too early to stop, but ultimately Carlos make it clear he want to stop, and Carlos did swap, then comes the "We were not ready" So all the team did was hindering Carlos race, Aldas also did not mention that should the team be pitting Sainz at the preferred moment he would be likely still ahead of Lewis out of the pit. Which actually preserved better positions (for both drivers). Yet most of the comment only take Sainz not immediately respond to team orders as intentional.
Simple answer: Ferrari. Having ignored Sainz's request for a pit stop multiple times, then calling him into the pits, only to not be ready made Sainz _a bit cross._ Plus the fact he will be going to Williams next year, means that he wouldn't have let a chance at possibly his last podium for the time being slip by.
I don’t understand how if they didn’t want Carlos to slow down Charles and when communicating this Carlos suggested and then requested and then begged them to pit him, why not pit Carlos and help both drivers, the one that wanted to pit and Charles would also be released into free air with Carlos out of the way. Why would Carlos not be frustrated if they made him lose time on grained tyres especially after he had been hinting at graining since lap 20
Carlos wasn't given a team order not to overtake, but a team order to not pressure Charles. He passed him quickly and easily due to the tire difference, so there was no pressure.
That’s my take exactly. Sitting behind him with better pace would’ve been more pressure 😂 All around it was Ferrari being stupid Ferrari again. LeClerc goes with them. Sainz goes on-tilt after senseless team orders and a botched pit stop, does his own thing, team still gets maximum result. That’s why I love Carlos 😂
@@aliciatrail8371 Sure, that makes sense in many cases. In a race where tires are a major concern, "don't pressure" could easily mean "if you can pass easily, do it. If you can't, please don't waste both of your tires trying."
Saying Ferrari maximized result is simply wrong. The gap at the end of the race between Lewis and Carlos was 4.6s. Carlos lost about 2s in the pitstop issue and than further 3s with the delayed stop. I don't think Lewis would have been able to finish P2 considering he on the road had to overtake Carlos too with the stop proposed by Carlos. It was very much a situation of Ferrari tyring everything to get Charles on the podiums
I can't fault Sainz by the simple fact that this most likely are his last chances to compete for podiums. He was asked to not pressure Charles and not to pass him, but Carlos did so without bothering Charles race. This is without taking into consideration how Ferrari decided to let Carlos go and how sudden it must have been for him, Carlos is entitled to be selfish in the last races.
Carlos was selfish since 2021 and he was always in his career, he had that tensions even with Max and Hulkenberg at Renault, the only teammate of him with which he didn't had those tensions was Lando because he was his muppet
Sainz is not "entitled to be selfish" more than any driver in any situation (unless they can't by contract, which Im not sure can be done). Leclerc is saying (in the heat of the moment) that he would be from now on, and if cost Ferrari, so be it.
@@PetruStefan25If you think the Carlos-Charles team had tension you're probably new to F1. This has been one of the most chill partnership of any big team ever
@@PetruStefan25 yeah, Carlos is not teamplayer at all since day 1 he join Ferrari.. i wonder thats why theres no top team that want him for next season?
Ferrari at fault. Lecrec might be right to be upset if the team for absolutely no reason told him that Carlos wouldn't pass him. Ferrari messed up Sainz's race and on top of that expect for a driver to just give away his position to his teammate?? what's worse, al this noise calling Sainz a bad teammate when the points for the team were the same it's just obnoxious
Yes and no, Carlos has made comments about possibly returning to Ferrari in the future so you would think he would be careful about burning that bridge.
Indeed... I daresay that even a double podium was in the cards had Sharl not needlessly shred his tyres early in the race. Blaming Carlito for this mess of their own making is just pathetic.
@@JoeStudd96 Huh??? Sainz finished a mere 4 seconds behind Hamilton. with Leclerc being another 2 seconds back. Hadn't Ferrari done Ferrari things chances are we'd be looking at a very different result. Hamilton didn't have to pass the Ferraris on track, he benefitted greatly from their fumbled strategy.
Sainz did the right thing. Seems to me that the team blatantly wanted Charles to finish ahead. They ignored Carlos' request to pit earlier, was told to let Charles through and weren't ready when he was entering the pits. Carlos obviously read that intention and did what he had to do.
@@juanpablomirelesmaria4963 If Carlos would've been pitted when he wanted i think he wouldn't have tyres in a good shape at the end and that would've cost him
For one; Charles is the faster driver of the two, the driver that will be there beyond 2024, and the driver that’s ahead in the standings so of course he will get priority. For two, one of Ferrari’s main goals is to get Charles 2nd place in the championship. Had Carlos done what he was told and not drive selfishly, Charles could have fully capitalizad on McLaren not having pace today.
No one cares about a drivers position in the championship, even more so now that Max is the champion. Only the drivers care, and it is just for ego reasons, not monetary. Ferrari only care about the constructors and 3-4 was the best they would've gotten. Does not matter if it was Sainz ahead, or Leclerc. @@nathanreynolds6459
I'm with Sainz on this one, Ferrari mismanaged his race and put him behind Lec then has the gall to ask him to stay behind (especially if the team is kicking you out )
It is interesting to me that Carlos is expected to just let Charles pass for no reason other than to be in front. Charles isnt fighting for WDC and 2nd is as good as last, no one cares. Charles gets to go in front so he isnt under pressure from Lewis so Carlos can be under pressure instead? If Ferrari weren't so busy trying to fix positions they could have managed this scene so much better. Additionally, i dont think any driver with a championship winning mentality would have done differently than Carlos did. He didnt cost the team anything but did not bend over easily to 'take it' for his teammate. Charles would do well to have some of this attitude in 2025 cause there is no way Lewis will sacrifice his own race and just let him past. I hope for Charles that he doesn't end up as Lewis's wingman.
Charles fans are so clueless about F1. They are going around convincing themselves that a P2 WDC standing is important while we F1 fans have known for decades that P2 - P20 standing means nothing. Once that WDC is awarded, the rest is meaningless.
@@Carol-ix1cpThen why are you still watching the races? Wdc has been awarded so go to sleep because by your logic the season is over. Every driver wants to beat other drivers. You fans think that these drivers are racing for you but they are racing for themselves. If Charles gets p2 that means he beats another driver in a slower car and that would please him why tf would he care about what you think of him finishing p2? He is doing it for himself
@@greenfj1466 Some noob thinks F1 fans watch for awards only. We watch because we love the adrenaline. WE LOVE FAST CARS AND THE ENGINEERING. A noob like you only come here to drool over drivers. To remind you one more time... in case your brain can't comprehend, a WDC is to acknowledge who is the fastest driver among them all, but the prize money is not in that cup. And no one will remember who is P2. We remember the #1.
@Carol-ix1cp Remember Hamilton being p2 in 2021? Ofcourse you do. Also not everyone watches F1 to watch cars go vroom. Some watch for racing and most with a brain more capable than yours choose a driver they like racing more than others. If you can't understand something this basic then please stay quiet
Sainz let Leclerc pass TWICE, and was pushed further back by the botched pit stop. From that point on the conversation about lack of teamwork is pointless. Carlos was just better this weekend, and Charles is just frustrated about that fact. What else does Carlos, who is by the way one of the best teamplayers on the grid, have to do not to be acussed of not playing the team game? Slow down in the final straight and let Charles get a podium? Change his last name to Barrichelo? I also disagree about Ferrari maximizing. If they had not messed Carlos' race, him catching Hamilton and ending second would have been a possibility.
i think we should take into account the fact that carlos was on new tires and within drs range. i think the overtake was inevitable, especially knowing that if carlos had slowed down so not to overtake charles, it would have closed the gap between charles and max like what happened on lap 8, except carlos would have been included in the battle and both positions would have been at risk (though, granted, the red bull wasn't very competitive that day). i'm not 100% sure if i'm right because nobody else has mentioned this, but this is what i think just based on what i know. besides, carlos has been screwed over by ferrari several times as a number 2 driver, and he has the ability to strategize while in the car (as someone else in the comment section mentioned). we can't fault him for wanting to end his ferrari career on a good note, i think any of us would have done the same. we also definitely can't fault him for wanting to finish ahead of his teammate, as he didn't risk the team's overall points in any way. the championship is no longer up for grabs, so i can definitely see why carlos did what he did, in addition to the fact that it was logistically inevitable.
@@AlessandroXSalguero Sainz was in a Ferrari and did what compared to Charles in the Ferrari. Its ok to be a fan but be subjective and look at the bigger picture. Carlos was in F1 before Charles and has done less.
This could be Sainz last ever podium, and he is only being dropped because he’s not a 7 time world champion, so I do get just looking out for himself. He’s also doing a good job pushing Leclerc to be better over a full race and more consistent and to be more selfish. I do think though that his only way back to the top from Williams is as a number 2 driver and he is just consistently showing that he will not play that role. So I do think this year will have his last win and podium in F1
I also think Ferrari screwed with Sainz a bit (not pitting him when he wanted to and the shenanigan of calling him in then saying stay out) otherwise they wouldn't have encountered each other on track. Its just badly managed from them.
@@strexle7446 people think drivers should play #2, which NONE of the 20 would do if there is any opportunities, and in perspective, if they think Sainz should play number 2 to Leclerc, they should look out for 2025 if Leclerc should play number 2 to Lewis if the situation comes.
@@wilbertyuen4116 I don't think it's really a matter of first and second driver but more of being loyal to the team. And in the years of both Leclerc and Sainz, Sainz has never really been a team player (I'll repeat: I don't mean the second drive) Anyway I do think it's always been mostly a Ferrari management issue. As the drivers after 21/22 and half 23 started not really trusting the team.
So u mean to say for him to ignore team orders?? Pray tell me why no top team wanted him when he was the only free driver available on the grid at the start of the season? 🤔 where as Toto & Helmut have publicly chased Charles b4 him signing his new contract. Fan do say “ignore the order” driver for yourself, what’s he gonna loose, here fans forget that TL’s, sponsors other high level ppl do see this. And for a fact CS hasn’t played team game since he joined Ferrari, not once where as the other pilot has. Not saying CS is a mid driver but one must guess why he’s on his way to Williams & not top teams
Somewhere mid race Sainz asked for a strat update. The response was "we will let you know in 2 laps". Translation, "we are checking". The drivers are rogue as they have no confidence in the team.
If Charles wants to finish ahead of Carlos he could qualify in front of Carlos... or overtake him during the race. Is that simple. Charles is not fighting for the championship and they got the same points. Lost major respect here for Leclerc. He keeps expecting to be treated like he's already won a championship. That whole radio exchange was terrible.
he did overtake him in the race, then let him by, after that, Sainz completely ignored everything he was told, not to mention giving Verstappen drs which is completely insane just to stay ahead of Charles
@@stefan.marsenicclet him by 😂😂😂 did he let Max by too? What about how he dropped 5 seconds behind after he “let him by” while Carlos was already overtaking him
Carlos is leaving in 2 races, I don't think he cares that much about pissing out Leclerc. He will push it a bit, trying not to burn his bridges with Ferrari itself, but he isn't bending backwards to please the team on his way out. Charles will not be giving an inch in the last two races.
After seeing both sides, listening to their post race interviews and fan opinions. This is on the team. Poor communication and execution which leaves both drivers feeling lost and losing trust in each other. Also Leclerc should mute himself more lol.
I don't think that its about finishing 3rd or 4th, The goal is to get Charles p2 in the standings because ofc p2 matters otherwise the season would've ended in Vegas because Max won the title, Charles wants it badly and Carlos is causing problems even though Carlos is just fighting for a measly p4
@@SadMarinersFan Same like Sainz Fans.They are arrogant and think the spanish is a top driver like Hamilton I‘m not a fan of Leclerc ,but I don‘t like how Sainz is acting.Not just this year Who pays his salary ? His Daddy ?
Thanks for explaining this - I didn't have a clue where this all stemmed from. Now it makes sense - but still feel Charles overreacted. He blew his chance at the very beginning of the race, and Carlos has to fight for himself given he's on the way out.
What do you mean over reacted at the very beginning? He went frm p4 to p2 and was chasing GR for p1. Dirty air & graining was a big issue 🤷🏻♀️ so I mean to say is that he should not overtake n jst b idle? 🤔😑
Ferrari not taking charge multiple times throughout their partnership. Sainz is one the drivers that can strategize while in the car, Charles not so much. This causes bumping heads between the Ferrari strategists and Sainz which in turn leaves Charles in the middle waiting on the team to decide. That is something Sainz has had as a strength for years and it’s showed itself here again at Vegas. The team took too long to decide and Sainz simply felt he deserved the position.
If Carlos wants to pit and you want to release Charles, then pit Carlos also if you want me to swap then my teammate better be on my ass... In the end Carlos figured that he could get 3rd and not compromise the team's overall points so he went for it. Charles needed to chill TF out and drive faster. In the end nobody cares who comes second for the driver's championship
It wasn’t a manner of Charles needing to drive faster; he had just pitted so Carlos was going to be quicker. Ferrari knew this and told Carlos not to pressure Charles. Carlos chose to disobey the order so this whole incident is on him for being selfish. It’s also on the team for not boxing Carlos when they should have so that they wouldn’t have been undercut by Lewis
@@nathanreynolds6459 see the point is had they pitted him when he was asking, he'd have been clar ahead of Leclerc, rather than at full speed with warm tires behind a car reentering the track with cold tires. In race there was no issue, at that moment Carlos was WAY faster than Leclerc, who btw could have closed the gap to Sainz who had older tires, but wasn't able to do it. If the original (pre race) instructions was to let Leclerc ahead no matter what (e.g. to allow him to get to 2nd place in the drivers' standings), then sure there is an issue, but on track? Nah mate Sainz wasn't asked not to pass Leclerc, he was asked no to pressure him (to avoid silly overtakes) and this shows how the mistake is on the team, they were sure Leclerc would be back on track clear of Sainz, they mismanaged both Sainz and Leclerc's situation.
Blaming Carlos for his team's incompetence. That's one way to give a petty excuse. Did you bother to read the race engineers convo? There was one missing piece on Carlos radio, he wasn't told "not to overtake"... he was only told not to put pressure on Charles. I initially thought he was told to but it was obvious there was none of that info pass on to Sainz. Hence, Carlos overtake. And in just 5 corners, Carlos went on his merry way, out of his drs range... So where's the pressure in that situation? None.
@stefan.marsenicc Mexico and Las Vegas are not the same track. Those messages have different meaning from do not overtake, if you still can't comprehend the meaning... don't blame that on the drivers.
As a Spanish fan, I find it perplexing to hear Charles speak in this way. It’s difficult to understand why Carlos wouldn't be able to overtake him, especially considering the tyre advantage Carlos had. Additionally, it’s puzzling that Charles talks about respect, given that he has often undermined Carlos throughout the season. Charles is a strong competitor fighting for himself, so why wouldn’t Carlos do the same? It seems clear that the team is not giving much attention to Carlos at this point, so is there an underlying concern about Charles' performance that he's trying to deflect attention from?
There were things that were discussed before the race that Carlos did not adhere to that is the respect Charles is primarily mad about after the race and what are you talking about Charles undermining Carlos when has that even happened???
@@sa-eedahtaliep8580 Where did he undermine him? The only instance they really had was when Sainz overtook him off track. Leclerc had the better tires in the last stint. No one was undermined there.
I love your editing style Aldas. You cleverly showcase the context of the situation, then you offer a measured and thoughtful take on all of your videos! I think its safe to say that I enjoy your uploads as much as some of these races!
I believe that all drivers should be able to compete at the highest level. If they can’t, or aren’t allowed then every team should only have one driver.
Like this channel overall, but it's unpleasant to see how you always find a way to blame Sainz for everything! First Baku and now this. Ferrari need to stop being themselves and its golden boy should grow a spine to avoid such situations!
They didn't fire him, they decided to not extend the contract. Those are different things. McLaren fired Ric, for example. And stop making the tragedy our if it. Sainz fans act like it is the first time in the history of F1 when driver leaves the team.
The message was loud and clear on Carlos's radio "DO NOT PRESSURE CHARLES." Ricky did not tell him, "DO NOT OVERTAKE CHARLES." The words DO NOT OVERTAKE came out of the mouth of Charles' race engineer. He corrected himself but did not clarify the message to Charles. And you had the nerve to blame this drama on Carlos? It was obvious Ferrari's plan was to screw Carlos' race. The way they handled the pitstop screams "Stay out and concede your position to Charles so he can take the P3". Then there's Charles is acting like a DIVA on the radio and thinks Carlos is there to lay down a red carpet for him? Nah! Charles is just an ENTITLED SPOILED Ferrari driver. That two-faced drama queen attitude makes him nothing close to Max or any other legends in this sport. This video is just your way of kissing Charles a**.
this is exact similar to Silverstone 2022 where Charles completely screwed by Sainz and the team itself. Even Lewis is behind Sainz thinking wtf is he thinking??? When both Charles and Carlos too vulnerable to Hamilton behind them, they have to do the swap already. Sainz not letting Leclerc pass is actually asking for disaster
@@johnlau6749 Its not Carlos fault when Charles missed the pit entry when it opened. That's just an unlucky moment. By then he was already screwed. To ask Carlos to concede his position to Charles when he has newer tyres and 100% chance of taking home P1 over a Charles with an old tyres and a chance to take home a P3 and put Sainz to P4 is what we call a classic clown Ferrari strategy.
@@johnlau6749 I am proud a Ferrari driver like Carlos rejected that senseless request. The guy uses his brain better than the whole Ferrari strategist.
@@johnlau6749 Risk 2 drivers? Wtf are you yapping about? Charles missed the pit entry and Ferrari chose not to box him anymore since the safety car was ending. That's their mistakes. All the contenders for the podium had new tyres, Charles obviously had NO CHANCE. Even if they try to sacrifice Carlos in those new tyres by defending his teammate against Hamilton, Charles will still end up in P3 and Carlos in P4. Ferrari would have wasted a P1 if they pushed for that wack strategy. A team willing to sacrifice a driver with a chance to win for the other who can't is dumb.
Sainz is one of the smart drivers that understands there are no teamates in f1. Hes getting shoved out the team why the F would he stay behind his teamate when hes faster.. Race for yourself out here man
It's amusing that Ferrari struggle so badly to balance the wants and behaviours of Charles and Carlos this year, but think they'll be able to manage Charles and Lewis next year. The strategy department better get their act together, or we'll see a LOT more of this
Carlos swallowed several Ferrari pills in past and he has no reason pursue Leclerc’s goals. For me, Sainz is Ferrari and it’s a costly mistake getting rid of him.
They're racing drivers...they want to win. For the Mark Webbers & Charles Leclercs of the world, stop crying, go faster, and overtake your teammate if you're able to. The entitlement these drivers believe they have is unreal. If you're better and faster, then take the position back. I remember Leclerc crying about Vettel overtaking him going into turn 1 on the 1st lap back in 2019 (or 2020) & then demanding that the team instructed Vettel to give hime the place back. I was legit confused and the weird part is the team actually asked Vettel to swap positions, which he refused to do. Leclerc really needs to learn what competitive sports are all about and leave the entitlement attitude to his personal life.
@@jagerdergroe8604 Wow so funny but I just couldn't manage to laugh. Sainz is 60 pts behind leclerc and Its been a long time since Piastri has been better than Norris lol, Theres a reason Piastri is gonna lose p4 in the standings to Ferrari's no.2 even though Piastri is in the fastest car
i mean sainz had the advantage in qualifying, thanks to his more relaxed driving style under grainy conditions leclerc immediately tried to fight the uncontested best car around the course which cooked his tires the team screwed up sainz's pitstop which had me honestly livid, but i wouldn't be surprised if the team screwed up something for leclerc as well all in all, i'm more a leclerc guy but he kinda deserved to end up behind sainz
I can’t believe people are mad at Sainz here, he was screwed over by the team with the pit stop and it’s not like the team lost any points because of it. Sainz also doesn’t have any reason to care about hurting anyone’s feelings when he was very unfairly discarded by the team in favor of signing Hamilton (not saying it’s a bad decision, but Sainz obviously wasn’t replaced because of his performances)
I don’t understand why Ferrari doesn’t say the only thing that matters is the constructors. I don’t care how it gets done but maximum team points need to be scored.
Calling Sainz the instigator when he had every right to stay ahead of Charles based on pace and track position is crazy work. It was an awful attempt at prioritizing Charles over Carlos
Guys in Twitter, most of the Charles' fans are spreading unnecessary and underserved hatred against Carlos!!!! Can't blame them when their favourite driver is like this!!!
Charles should vent his frustration and resentment inside, and accept the challenge from Carlos, and become a better and more mature driver, instead of constantly complaining to the team. Wrong use of hatred. That's what Carlos did, eat up the frustration, and prove it on the track. Just beat Carlos with your skills rather than hoping the clown team will hand you the podium.
7:30 I feel like this is what mclaren did in Hungary maximizing the team result but in a way that just leaves the drivers not feeling the best about it
ferrari at fault. sainz made all his decisions based on optimizing race time and track position. leclerc is really just mad at ferrari but since he's the golden boy, sainz is the easier target
I had flashbacks to Villeneuve and Pironi in '82 when it came to the "misunderstanding" of the team's orders/preferences. I hope I never have to think that again 😢.
idk if this counts, but it was told during the race that if sainz had pitted 2 laps earlier, which he wanted, he couldve had a chance to be p2. im not sure if this is reliable however, as it is just a prediction.
Sainz is leaving so he does not care about the team knowing he is going backward. With Toto being told about Lewis moving to Ferrari and Mercedes not offering him that seat.
@@rozburg What do you know about F1? Do you know how to assess a driver's performance? You are clearly a hater and there is a high possibility of you being a Leclerc's fangirl. I will not entertain any blind hate speech here
Mercedes is right about not hiring Sainz. In a decade his best finish is a 5th in the 2022 season. Everything else is 6th or worst. He doesn't have thr credentials to cause mayhem in Ferrari.
Nah bruv, Sainz needs therapy. He got outscored by Verstappen, he got outscored by Leclerc too. Charles spoke about respect, and if you didnt learn it by the age of 30, you need therapy
since 2021 Charles 992pts, 6 wins/29 podiums Carlos 870pts, 4 wins/24 podiums Sprint Charles 0 win/6 podiums Carlos 0 win/4 podiums such a ruthless mindset.. cant perform better than overrated Charles?
This whole “pressure” narrative is so stupid. Sainz overtook Leclerc with ease, and there was absolutely no need for the cars to be swapped as the team wouldn’t get any extra points. Leclerc being 2nd means nothing realistically. Next year when he has Hamilton as a teammate he’ll understand what real pressure means 😂
In my opinion, Charles will need a much more selfish mentality against Lewis, just as he was hungry to bite Seb away in 2019. To be very clear: Charles needs to be his 2024 version skillwise (consistency in achieving Top4 positions, tire management) and his 2019 version mentally (taking nothing for granted, aggressive, wanted to prove himself). With this together, he can not only beat Hamilton but be the champion 2025 when the car allows it. When he is a pussycat instead of a tiger, he will not get it. Maybe this episode here "being nice f***s me all the time" is the start for Charles not being everyone's darling but a fierce competitor like Max. He could need that.
Total joke how Ferrari treat Carlos..... Anything to derail his podium push and hand third place to Leclerc they tried..... Massively underrated..... One of the best drivers on the grid. Cannot wait to see him at Williams with a car he can fight for points with....
Thing is Qatar is McLaren pretty much even with the high deg which may suit us So this lead deficit is nothing Also leclerc has been dragging a PU since the European rounds while Sainz got one for crashing in Brazil
Yea, the thing is Carlos does not have anything at this point he needs to do to keep his seat. Likely, Carlos is never going to be in a race winning car again (sadly). So personally i would have done the same as Carlos.
When he doesnt say anything people complain as well, that he should be saying what he has on mind. You think all champions didnt let show their frustration?
I am amazed at how many creators are saying Sainz instigated this drama. This is Ferrari being Ferrari. Explain like I'm 5 why Sainz would sit behind Leclerc on a outlap on cold hards. Why he wasn't allowed to pit when he wanted to and then he was called in to pit, THEY WEREN'T EVEN READY. Sainz made the right call. No matter the agreements they made pre-race. Leclerc can feel like Sainz screwed him, but Sainz prevented himself being screwed by his own team.
All this drama is because of charles. He intentionally whined on radio hoping people would back him and attack sainz, but people can see his bullshit and are tired of him playing victims
Just a suggestion: When you have to different radios (Leclerc's and Sianz's) maybe separate them more visually as people need go read it fast. Maybe colours or left/right part of the screen
The fact of the matter is Sainz is not treated well by the Ferrari. He won't help Charles in the remaining two races, even if the situation warrants and that's fine.
What pressure? He overtook him quickly and it wasn't a definitive team order. They screwed Carlos on the pitstop. This is on the team, not Sainz. They finished 3/4 and Sainz out qualified Charles and was faster all weekend. Your take on this makes zero sense. Charles is just butthurt he didn't get a podium and wants a vassal teammate.
Could say that as Vasseur being leader of the Sauber that they got things better on there and when he left to Ferrari. Things again went downhill at Sauber as Ferrari got better suddenly. Even it wasn't only the Vasseur but same time it sure feels that made things better.
It's all Ferrari's fault. Just like Sainz suggested, they could easily avoid this drama by boxing Sainz and allowing Leclerc to pass naturally. Ferrari asking Sainz to slow down behind a car with fresh tyres with no temperate in them is just ridiculous
Yeah what delusion it is to expect your teammate to be respectful to pre-race agreements. Especially, when you, yourself, have always respect these agreements. This is a matter of pure respect and another reminder why no top team has hired Sainz.
@@ellea7927 why? because Sainz is faster than leclerc? they adapt throughout the race and if u want to play the team game as you say leclerc should've let him past.... fresh tires and everything....but yeah the terms was agreed before the race :D so stupid.... ego of a driver and a ferrari team.... but yeah thats why ferrari hasen't won a championship for so long
Carlos isn't getting many podums in the next few years so he might as well fill his boots when he can. I don't blame him. He was also overall just quicker than Charles that weekend.
Carlos should have started earlier this season to do his own thing, show that middle finger to Ferrari because they started the mess by hiring Lewis and sack Carlos!
Well, I think the "tension" between Carlos and Charles might actually help Charles in the long term. I do remember Austria 2019, when Max pushes Charles in turn 4 for the top spot of podium. Charles said after the race to be more aggresive and kinda pissed too. The results? That one-on-one battle in Silverstone 2019. But I agree, this shenanigans are Ferrari's fault (although the strategy department is quite better than last few years, apart from Canada and Silverstone this year).
Ferrari are clueless. Carlos was so much faster it would have been crazy for him to hold back - he didn’t fight Charles he just breezed past, he was that much quicker.
Same points for the team, charles is foghting for p2 not a championship, and there was a podium in play. Carlos did well, Charles better be ready for a non cooperating teammate. Ferrari will suffer dropping Carlos, either lulu and leclerc and close, and fighting constantly, or far apart and one of them (likely lulu) not performing and complaining about the car.
Every 5 races Sainz has enough pace to challenge Charles and as soon as that’s the case, he will not listen to anyone and try to maximize strategy for him!
Leclerc acting like a spoilt brat. Considering he was out of the championship race, there is no reason charles should be given positi9n by carlos. The feam order is just leclerc appeasement. Effing pathetic.
@@KeithHilton-w6uof course it did. Sainz giving DRS to Verstappen made it very risky for Leclerc, which couldve meant him finishing 5th and not gaining enough on McLaren.
A second place in the drivers standings doesn't mean that much certainly if its not achieved by your driving . First place in the constructors ranking is a big deal and Sainz didn't cost them points with his actions here , further had they pitted Sainz when he wanted he had a chance to fight for 2nd place. So it comes down to Leclerc's over agressive start and the poor tactics on the Ferrari pitwall don't blame Sainz for doing his own thing when the team tries to screw him.
'Trying to juggle those things is difficult for the team'. Boo hoo, they're professionals it's what they are paid to do. It's Ferrari, they act like they're F1 royalty so why should it be completely beyond their comprehension to keep two drivers happy at once? Ferrari has shown, time and time again, that they can't keep track of one driver, let alone two. Remember when Seb was in his last year and he was making the pit decisions for them? If it's too much for the team to do that is not Carlos' fault.
I don't agree with the whole "let your team mate beat you" logic. If Sainz is clearly faster and has better race pace why should he not use it? Is he supposed to just lift and coast so that Charles can build up an artificial lead? Sainz passed on merit in my opinion.
In my opinion, this was all caused by the team. Sainz requested to box for a good few laps and had lost a good few seconds over those laps and they didn't listen. They then tell him to box and then to stay out because they "were not ready". Why call him in then? 💀 Had they dealt with it properly, Sainz would have been ahead and there wouldn't have been this mess of not putting Charles under pressure etc etc
They also tell Carlos to hold back when Charles is going to have a slow outlap. In my opinion Carlos was in his right to get past thinking about the team and race Lap time. However, would have been better if he let Charles back through, but hey these are split second decisions at 300KpH. That's why I'm no driver😅😅
This is exactly most of the F1 commentators seems to ignore, the way Aldas puts it is a little misleading as he said Sainz is not following orders to let Charles by, but at that time Carlos was asking if he can Pit and get out of the way without doing the swap. The pit is hinting if Carlos it is too early to stop, but ultimately Carlos make it clear he want to stop, and Carlos did swap, then comes the "We were not ready" So all the team did was hindering Carlos race, Aldas also did not mention that should the team be pitting Sainz at the preferred moment he would be likely still ahead of Lewis out of the pit. Which actually preserved better positions (for both drivers). Yet most of the comment only take Sainz not immediately respond to team orders as intentional.
Yup Sainz should've finished 2nd
@@Formula_Info_ if Carlos slow down, they might not pass Ver, not both of the Ferraris.
and that would’ve also allowed charles to get past carlos at that moment while lewis is behind with less risk
Simple answer: Ferrari.
Having ignored Sainz's request for a pit stop multiple times, then calling him into the pits, only to not be ready made Sainz _a bit cross._ Plus the fact he will be going to Williams next year, means that he wouldn't have let a chance at possibly his last podium for the time being slip by.
I don’t understand how if they didn’t want Carlos to slow down Charles and when communicating this Carlos suggested and then requested and then begged them to pit him, why not pit Carlos and help both drivers, the one that wanted to pit and Charles would also be released into free air with Carlos out of the way. Why would Carlos not be frustrated if they made him lose time on grained tyres especially after he had been hinting at graining since lap 20
It looks like the answer to that question is Ferrari
If Sainz wants to pit and Leclerc wants to swap, you can solve both of your problems easily😂
Yeah, Hamilton and Leclerc are for sure going to be easier to manage in 2025...
@@ZnakeTech I can guarantee you there is gonna be a crash between them. Not a possibility. *_Certainty._*
Hamilton already moans about his superior strategies like at Spa and here at Vegas. How will he cope with Ferrari's mess ups. ...
They will. Hamilton is a professional. Leclerc is also a professional. They both massively respect each other. Why do people insist on creating drama?
We will see about that 😂😂
@@stephenoxfpeople don't want racing, they want entertainment.
Carlos wasn't given a team order not to overtake, but a team order to not pressure Charles. He passed him quickly and easily due to the tire difference, so there was no pressure.
😂
Correct 💯
In most contexts overtaking is considered putting pressure on the driver but it’s mostly a team communication issue
That’s my take exactly. Sitting behind him with better pace would’ve been more pressure 😂
All around it was Ferrari being stupid Ferrari again. LeClerc goes with them.
Sainz goes on-tilt after senseless team orders and a botched pit stop, does his own thing, team still gets maximum result. That’s why I love Carlos 😂
@@aliciatrail8371 Sure, that makes sense in many cases. In a race where tires are a major concern, "don't pressure" could easily mean "if you can pass easily, do it. If you can't, please don't waste both of your tires trying."
Saying Ferrari maximized result is simply wrong. The gap at the end of the race between Lewis and Carlos was 4.6s.
Carlos lost about 2s in the pitstop issue and than further 3s with the delayed stop. I don't think Lewis would have been able to finish P2 considering he on the road had to overtake Carlos too with the stop proposed by Carlos. It was very much a situation of Ferrari tyring everything to get Charles on the podiums
I can't fault Sainz by the simple fact that this most likely are his last chances to compete for podiums. He was asked to not pressure Charles and not to pass him, but Carlos did so without bothering Charles race. This is without taking into consideration how Ferrari decided to let Carlos go and how sudden it must have been for him, Carlos is entitled to be selfish in the last races.
Carlos was selfish since 2021 and he was always in his career, he had that tensions even with Max and Hulkenberg at Renault, the only teammate of him with which he didn't had those tensions was Lando because he was his muppet
Sainz is not "entitled to be selfish" more than any driver in any situation (unless they can't by contract, which Im not sure can be done). Leclerc is saying (in the heat of the moment) that he would be from now on, and if cost Ferrari, so be it.
@@PetruStefan25If you think the Carlos-Charles team had tension you're probably new to F1. This has been one of the most chill partnership of any big team ever
@@PetruStefan25 yeah, Carlos is not teamplayer at all since day 1 he join Ferrari.. i wonder thats why theres no top team that want him for next season?
Good then, let Sainz drive his last top team drive and maybe his last podium
Ferrari at fault.
Lecrec might be right to be upset if the team for absolutely no reason told him that Carlos wouldn't pass him.
Ferrari messed up Sainz's race and on top of that expect for a driver to just give away his position to his teammate?? what's worse, al this noise calling Sainz a bad teammate when the points for the team were the same it's just obnoxious
Carlos has every right to step on as many toes on the team as possible.
@aaronsorensen5165 that's true, but its not Charles' fault either
Indeed and exactly why he’ll be piloting a Williams from next year 😊
Yes and no, Carlos has made comments about possibly returning to Ferrari in the future so you would think he would be careful about burning that bridge.
@@indiebekonnare you high?
@@quigglyz nope,he is right
It would have been Sainz p2 and leclerc p4 if Ferrari hadn't completely ruined Sainz's race.
Indeed... I daresay that even a double podium was in the cards had Sharl not needlessly shred his tyres early in the race. Blaming Carlito for this mess of their own making is just pathetic.
I don't think so, no one was stopping Lewis.
@@JoeStudd96 Huh??? Sainz finished a mere 4 seconds behind Hamilton. with Leclerc being another 2 seconds back. Hadn't Ferrari done Ferrari things chances are we'd be looking at a very different result. Hamilton didn't have to pass the Ferraris on track, he benefitted greatly from their fumbled strategy.
Sainz did the right thing. Seems to me that the team blatantly wanted Charles to finish ahead. They ignored Carlos' request to pit earlier, was told to let Charles through and weren't ready when he was entering the pits. Carlos obviously read that intention and did what he had to do.
@@juanpablomirelesmaria4963 If Carlos would've been pitted when he wanted i think he wouldn't have tyres in a good shape at the end and that would've cost him
For one; Charles is the faster driver of the two, the driver that will be there beyond 2024, and the driver that’s ahead in the standings so of course he will get priority. For two, one of Ferrari’s main goals is to get Charles 2nd place in the championship. Had Carlos done what he was told and not drive selfishly, Charles could have fully capitalizad on McLaren not having pace today.
No one cares about a drivers position in the championship, even more so now that Max is the champion. Only the drivers care, and it is just for ego reasons, not monetary. Ferrari only care about the constructors and 3-4 was the best they would've gotten. Does not matter if it was Sainz ahead, or Leclerc. @@nathanreynolds6459
@@nathanreynolds6459 What does Carlos have to do with Charles aspirations to the championship? Carlos has his own aspirations
@@juanpablomirelesmaria4963 its called teamplay, same like piastri help lando to maximise the result
I'm with Sainz on this one, Ferrari mismanaged his race and put him behind Lec then has the gall to ask him to stay behind (especially if the team is kicking you out )
It is interesting to me that Carlos is expected to just let Charles pass for no reason other than to be in front. Charles isnt fighting for WDC and 2nd is as good as last, no one cares. Charles gets to go in front so he isnt under pressure from Lewis so Carlos can be under pressure instead?
If Ferrari weren't so busy trying to fix positions they could have managed this scene so much better.
Additionally, i dont think any driver with a championship winning mentality would have done differently than Carlos did. He didnt cost the team anything but did not bend over easily to 'take it' for his teammate.
Charles would do well to have some of this attitude in 2025 cause there is no way Lewis will sacrifice his own race and just let him past.
I hope for Charles that he doesn't end up as Lewis's wingman.
but in reality is when in WDC fight someone has to be wingman regardless. Because that is the only way to win WDC
Charles fans are so clueless about F1. They are going around convincing themselves that a P2 WDC standing is important while we F1 fans have known for decades that P2 - P20 standing means nothing. Once that WDC is awarded, the rest is meaningless.
@@Carol-ix1cpThen why are you still watching the races? Wdc has been awarded so go to sleep because by your logic the season is over. Every driver wants to beat other drivers. You fans think that these drivers are racing for you but they are racing for themselves. If Charles gets p2 that means he beats another driver in a slower car and that would please him why tf would he care about what you think of him finishing p2? He is doing it for himself
@@greenfj1466 Some noob thinks F1 fans watch for awards only. We watch because we love the adrenaline. WE LOVE FAST CARS AND THE ENGINEERING. A noob like you only come here to drool over drivers.
To remind you one more time... in case your brain can't comprehend, a WDC is to acknowledge who is the fastest driver among them all, but the prize money is not in that cup. And no one will remember who is P2. We remember the #1.
@Carol-ix1cp Remember Hamilton being p2 in 2021? Ofcourse you do. Also not everyone watches F1 to watch cars go vroom. Some watch for racing and most with a brain more capable than yours choose a driver they like racing more than others. If you can't understand something this basic then please stay quiet
Sainz let Leclerc pass TWICE, and was pushed further back by the botched pit stop.
From that point on the conversation about lack of teamwork is pointless. Carlos was just better this weekend, and Charles is just frustrated about that fact. What else does Carlos, who is by the way one of the best teamplayers on the grid, have to do not to be acussed of not playing the team game? Slow down in the final straight and let Charles get a podium? Change his last name to Barrichelo?
I also disagree about Ferrari maximizing. If they had not messed Carlos' race, him catching Hamilton and ending second would have been a possibility.
i think we should take into account the fact that carlos was on new tires and within drs range. i think the overtake was inevitable, especially knowing that if carlos had slowed down so not to overtake charles, it would have closed the gap between charles and max like what happened on lap 8, except carlos would have been included in the battle and both positions would have been at risk (though, granted, the red bull wasn't very competitive that day). i'm not 100% sure if i'm right because nobody else has mentioned this, but this is what i think just based on what i know. besides, carlos has been screwed over by ferrari several times as a number 2 driver, and he has the ability to strategize while in the car (as someone else in the comment section mentioned). we can't fault him for wanting to end his ferrari career on a good note, i think any of us would have done the same. we also definitely can't fault him for wanting to finish ahead of his teammate, as he didn't risk the team's overall points in any way. the championship is no longer up for grabs, so i can definitely see why carlos did what he did, in addition to the fact that it was logistically inevitable.
Carlos to Charles after the race: "Gonna cry?"
Charles to Carlos…next year Williams ?🤡
Charles to Carlos replies "Nah bro, you gonna cry when I overtake your Williams by a lap next year"
In a Williams wow what a achievement for Charles in a Ferrari
@@AlessandroXSalguero Sainz was in a Ferrari and did what compared to Charles in the Ferrari. Its ok to be a fan but be subjective and look at the bigger picture. Carlos was in F1 before Charles and has done less.
What has leclerc achieved as the golden child? Wdc?
This could be Sainz last ever podium, and he is only being dropped because he’s not a 7 time world champion, so I do get just looking out for himself. He’s also doing a good job pushing Leclerc to be better over a full race and more consistent and to be more selfish.
I do think though that his only way back to the top from Williams is as a number 2 driver and he is just consistently showing that he will not play that role. So I do think this year will have his last win and podium in F1
I also think Ferrari screwed with Sainz a bit (not pitting him when he wanted to and the shenanigan of calling him in then saying stay out) otherwise they wouldn't have encountered each other on track. Its just badly managed from them.
@@strexle7446 people think drivers should play #2, which NONE of the 20 would do if there is any opportunities, and in perspective, if they think Sainz should play number 2 to Leclerc, they should look out for 2025 if Leclerc should play number 2 to Lewis if the situation comes.
@@wilbertyuen4116 I don't think it's really a matter of first and second driver but more of being loyal to the team. And in the years of both Leclerc and Sainz, Sainz has never really been a team player (I'll repeat: I don't mean the second drive)
Anyway I do think it's always been mostly a Ferrari management issue. As the drivers after 21/22 and half 23 started not really trusting the team.
Sainz is a bit average... nothing special.
So u mean to say for him to ignore team orders?? Pray tell me why no top team wanted him when he was the only free driver available on the grid at the start of the season? 🤔 where as Toto & Helmut have publicly chased Charles b4 him signing his new contract. Fan do say “ignore the order” driver for yourself, what’s he gonna loose, here fans forget that TL’s, sponsors other high level ppl do see this. And for a fact CS hasn’t played team game since he joined Ferrari, not once where as the other pilot has. Not saying CS is a mid driver but one must guess why he’s on his way to Williams & not top teams
Somewhere mid race Sainz asked for a strat update. The response was "we will let you know in 2 laps". Translation, "we are checking". The drivers are rogue as they have no confidence in the team.
If Charles wants to finish ahead of Carlos he could qualify in front of Carlos... or overtake him during the race. Is that simple. Charles is not fighting for the championship and they got the same points. Lost major respect here for Leclerc. He keeps expecting to be treated like he's already won a championship. That whole radio exchange was terrible.
he did overtake him in the race, then let him by, after that, Sainz completely ignored everything he was told, not to mention giving Verstappen drs which is completely insane just to stay ahead of Charles
@@stefan.marsenicclet him by 😂😂😂 did he let Max by too? What about how he dropped 5 seconds behind after he “let him by” while Carlos was already overtaking him
Carlos is leaving in 2 races, I don't think he cares that much about pissing out Leclerc. He will push it a bit, trying not to burn his bridges with Ferrari itself, but he isn't bending backwards to please the team on his way out. Charles will not be giving an inch in the last two races.
After seeing both sides, listening to their post race interviews and fan opinions. This is on the team. Poor communication and execution which leaves both drivers feeling lost and losing trust in each other. Also Leclerc should mute himself more lol.
I love sainz bc seeing leclerc fans baby rage about finishing 4th instead if 3rd is really funny
And seeing this Spanish little bi… not caring about the team is amazing too not only in Las Vegas in Spain for example
Next year Carlos with Mercedes ? RedBull ? AM? No ,Williams 🤡
@@robfx346 imagine not realizing you proved their point perfectly with that comment.
I don't think that its about finishing 3rd or 4th, The goal is to get Charles p2 in the standings because ofc p2 matters otherwise the season would've ended in Vegas because Max won the title, Charles wants it badly and Carlos is causing problems even though Carlos is just fighting for a measly p4
@@SadMarinersFan Same like Sainz Fans.They are arrogant and think the spanish is a top driver like Hamilton
I‘m not a fan of Leclerc ,but I don‘t like how Sainz is acting.Not just this year
Who pays his salary ? His Daddy ?
Thanks for explaining this - I didn't have a clue where this all stemmed from. Now it makes sense - but still feel Charles overreacted. He blew his chance at the very beginning of the race, and Carlos has to fight for himself given he's on the way out.
What do you mean over reacted at the very beginning? He went frm p4 to p2 and was chasing GR for p1. Dirty air & graining was a big issue 🤷🏻♀️ so I mean to say is that he should not overtake n jst b idle? 🤔😑
@@Mishybells He shouldn't cry about his teammate not ceding position to him.
Ferrari wanted leclare to be on podium instead of Carlos and obviously Carlos wasn’t having it so well done Carlos
Ferrari not taking charge multiple times throughout their partnership. Sainz is one the drivers that can strategize while in the car, Charles not so much.
This causes bumping heads between the Ferrari strategists and Sainz which in turn leaves Charles in the middle waiting on the team to decide.
That is something Sainz has had as a strength for years and it’s showed itself here again at Vegas. The team took too long to decide and Sainz simply felt he deserved the position.
yall are damn delusional about this narrative
If Carlos wants to pit and you want to release Charles, then pit Carlos also if you want me to swap then my teammate better be on my ass... In the end Carlos figured that he could get 3rd and not compromise the team's overall points so he went for it. Charles needed to chill TF out and drive faster. In the end nobody cares who comes second for the driver's championship
It wasn’t a manner of Charles needing to drive faster; he had just pitted so Carlos was going to be quicker. Ferrari knew this and told Carlos not to pressure Charles. Carlos chose to disobey the order so this whole incident is on him for being selfish. It’s also on the team for not boxing Carlos when they should have so that they wouldn’t have been undercut by Lewis
@@nathanreynolds6459 see the point is had they pitted him when he was asking, he'd have been clar ahead of Leclerc, rather than at full speed with warm tires behind a car reentering the track with cold tires.
In race there was no issue, at that moment Carlos was WAY faster than Leclerc, who btw could have closed the gap to Sainz who had older tires, but wasn't able to do it.
If the original (pre race) instructions was to let Leclerc ahead no matter what (e.g. to allow him to get to 2nd place in the drivers' standings), then sure there is an issue, but on track?
Nah mate Sainz wasn't asked not to pass Leclerc, he was asked no to pressure him (to avoid silly overtakes) and this shows how the mistake is on the team, they were sure Leclerc would be back on track clear of Sainz, they mismanaged both Sainz and Leclerc's situation.
Blaming Carlos for his team's incompetence. That's one way to give a petty excuse. Did you bother to read the race engineers convo? There was one missing piece on Carlos radio, he wasn't told "not to overtake"... he was only told not to put pressure on Charles. I initially thought he was told to but it was obvious there was none of that info pass on to Sainz. Hence, Carlos overtake. And in just 5 corners, Carlos went on his merry way, out of his drs range... So where's the pressure in that situation? None.
Leclerc was also told in Mexico to not put pressure on Sainz while he was closing the gap, but sure, just skip over that
@stefan.marsenicc Mexico and Las Vegas are not the same track. Those messages have different meaning from do not overtake, if you still can't comprehend the meaning... don't blame that on the drivers.
@@stefan.marsenicche was told to LiCo because he was fucking up his engine. Get better comprehension skills
As a Spanish fan, I find it perplexing to hear Charles speak in this way. It’s difficult to understand why Carlos wouldn't be able to overtake him, especially considering the tyre advantage Carlos had. Additionally, it’s puzzling that Charles talks about respect, given that he has often undermined Carlos throughout the season. Charles is a strong competitor fighting for himself, so why wouldn’t Carlos do the same? It seems clear that the team is not giving much attention to Carlos at this point, so is there an underlying concern about Charles' performance that he's trying to deflect attention from?
There were things that were discussed before the race that Carlos did not adhere to that is the respect Charles is primarily mad about after the race and what are you talking about Charles undermining Carlos when has that even happened???
Name a single instance where Charles has tried to "undermine" Carlos. That final sentence is just a huge grasp.
i agree! carlos was on new tires and within drs range, i think slowing down would've put the team more at risk
@@AbsoleteAim Spain 2024
@@sa-eedahtaliep8580 Where did he undermine him? The only instance they really had was when Sainz overtook him off track. Leclerc had the better tires in the last stint. No one was undermined there.
Short answer: Ferrari
Long answer: It was Ferrari
I love your editing style Aldas. You cleverly showcase the context of the situation, then you offer a measured and thoughtful take on all of your videos! I think its safe to say that I enjoy your uploads as much as some of these races!
I believe that all drivers should be able to compete at the highest level. If they can’t, or aren’t allowed then every team should only have one driver.
Like this channel overall, but it's unpleasant to see how you always find a way to blame Sainz for everything! First Baku and now this. Ferrari need to stop being themselves and its golden boy should grow a spine to avoid such situations!
If I am not wrong it happened with Vettel and Leclerc previously, Ferrari is pretty bad at managing drivers
Ferrari fired Carlos, he has no obligation to follow team orders. He had the faster car and his duty now is to win and show Ferrari what they lost
Oh Carlos drives for Ferrari for free?
They didn't fire him, they decided to not extend the contract. Those are different things. McLaren fired Ric, for example. And stop making the tragedy our if it. Sainz fans act like it is the first time in the history of F1 when driver leaves the team.
It’s almost like he’s being paid millions by the team to work FOR the team
Sainz is the instigator? are you ok? is your brain ok? 🤣🤣
Certainly doesn't help by that stats guy publishing false info and getting Carlos' name dragged through the mud.
@@PG-20 You mean the "telemetry" that "showed" Sainz giving Max DRS? Yeah, that was a low blow.
The message was loud and clear on Carlos's radio "DO NOT PRESSURE CHARLES."
Ricky did not tell him, "DO NOT OVERTAKE CHARLES."
The words DO NOT OVERTAKE came out of the mouth of Charles' race engineer. He corrected himself but did not clarify the message to Charles. And you had the nerve to blame this drama on Carlos? It was obvious Ferrari's plan was to screw Carlos' race. The way they handled the pitstop screams "Stay out and concede your position to Charles so he can take the P3". Then there's Charles is acting like a DIVA on the radio and thinks Carlos is there to lay down a red carpet for him? Nah! Charles is just an ENTITLED SPOILED Ferrari driver. That two-faced drama queen attitude makes him nothing close to Max or any other legends in this sport.
This video is just your way of kissing Charles a**.
this is exact similar to Silverstone 2022 where Charles completely screwed by Sainz and the team itself. Even Lewis is behind Sainz thinking wtf is he thinking??? When both Charles and Carlos too vulnerable to Hamilton behind them, they have to do the swap already. Sainz not letting Leclerc pass is actually asking for disaster
@@johnlau6749 Its not Carlos fault when Charles missed the pit entry when it opened. That's just an unlucky moment. By then he was already screwed. To ask Carlos to concede his position to Charles when he has newer tyres and 100% chance of taking home P1 over a Charles with an old tyres and a chance to take home a P3 and put Sainz to P4 is what we call a classic clown Ferrari strategy.
@@johnlau6749 I am proud a Ferrari driver like Carlos rejected that senseless request. The guy uses his brain better than the whole Ferrari strategist.
@@Carol-ix1cp why u risk ur 2 ferrari drivers out there when Lewis already gaining on both of them?😡😡😡 Never should've done that
@@johnlau6749 Risk 2 drivers? Wtf are you yapping about? Charles missed the pit entry and Ferrari chose not to box him anymore since the safety car was ending. That's their mistakes.
All the contenders for the podium had new tyres, Charles obviously had NO CHANCE. Even if they try to sacrifice Carlos in those new tyres by defending his teammate against Hamilton, Charles will still end up in P3 and Carlos in P4. Ferrari would have wasted a P1 if they pushed for that wack strategy. A team willing to sacrifice a driver with a chance to win for the other who can't is dumb.
Another Ferrari screw up. They dumped Sainz, he owes them nothing other than maximising the constructors points.
Sainz should not comply with anything. Ferrari made their decision, he doesn't owe them anything.
If not for Ferrari Sainz would have 0 wins. Sainz owes them everything
Sainz is one of the smart drivers that understands there are no teamates in f1. Hes getting shoved out the team why the F would he stay behind his teamate when hes faster.. Race for yourself out here man
Ferrari in 2025 will be interesting two whinny cry babies instead of one
I think it was horrific team orders favoring an arguably slower driver in leclerc and just pure incompetence from ferrari at the pit wall
had ferrari boxed when sainz first asked , this conflict wouldnt be happening plus he wouldnt have let his last chances at podiums slip away
It's amusing that Ferrari struggle so badly to balance the wants and behaviours of Charles and Carlos this year, but think they'll be able to manage Charles and Lewis next year. The strategy department better get their act together, or we'll see a LOT more of this
Just answering the title : Ferrari did.
Sainz is leaving so why should he care? And if Leclerc is quicker, then pass Sainz on track.
Carlos swallowed several Ferrari pills in past and he has no reason pursue Leclerc’s goals. For me, Sainz is Ferrari and it’s a costly mistake getting rid of him.
They're racing drivers...they want to win. For the Mark Webbers & Charles Leclercs of the world, stop crying, go faster, and overtake your teammate if you're able to. The entitlement these drivers believe they have is unreal. If you're better and faster, then take the position back. I remember Leclerc crying about Vettel overtaking him going into turn 1 on the 1st lap back in 2019 (or 2020) & then demanding that the team instructed Vettel to give hime the place back. I was legit confused and the weird part is the team actually asked Vettel to swap positions, which he refused to do. Leclerc really needs to learn what competitive sports are all about and leave the entitlement attitude to his personal life.
Leclerc and Lando give me the same kinda vibe... "favored by the team over performance"
The ones with "great potential"...
Except one has proven themselves when the car is there, the other hasn't, even when they had the better car for more than half of the year.
Both Lando and Charles have proven to be miles clear of their teammates
@@greenfj1466 yes, they are miles clear... in the rearview mirrors 😂
@@jagerdergroe8604 Wow so funny but I just couldn't manage to laugh. Sainz is 60 pts behind leclerc and Its been a long time since Piastri has been better than Norris lol, Theres a reason Piastri is gonna lose p4 in the standings to Ferrari's no.2 even though Piastri is in the fastest car
i mean
sainz had the advantage in qualifying, thanks to his more relaxed driving style under grainy conditions
leclerc immediately tried to fight the uncontested best car around the course which cooked his tires
the team screwed up sainz's pitstop which had me honestly livid, but i wouldn't be surprised if the team screwed up something for leclerc as well
all in all, i'm more a leclerc guy but he kinda deserved to end up behind sainz
Forget about Leclerc let Sainz kick his rear end. Let's wait to see Leclerc crying about Hamilton.
I can’t believe people are mad at Sainz here, he was screwed over by the team with the pit stop and it’s not like the team lost any points because of it. Sainz also doesn’t have any reason to care about hurting anyone’s feelings when he was very unfairly discarded by the team in favor of signing Hamilton (not saying it’s a bad decision, but Sainz obviously wasn’t replaced because of his performances)
I don’t understand why Ferrari doesn’t say the only thing that matters is the constructors. I don’t care how it gets done but maximum team points need to be scored.
Calling Sainz the instigator when he had every right to stay ahead of Charles based on pace and track position is crazy work. It was an awful attempt at prioritizing Charles over Carlos
Guys in Twitter, most of the Charles' fans are spreading unnecessary and underserved hatred against Carlos!!!!
Can't blame them when their favourite driver is like this!!!
Charles should vent his frustration and resentment inside, and accept the challenge from Carlos, and become a better and more mature driver, instead of constantly complaining to the team. Wrong use of hatred. That's what Carlos did, eat up the frustration, and prove it on the track. Just beat Carlos with your skills rather than hoping the clown team will hand you the podium.
7:30 I feel like this is what mclaren did in Hungary maximizing the team result but in a way that just leaves the drivers not feeling the best about it
It’s a race not a tour
ferrari at fault. sainz made all his decisions based on optimizing race time and track position. leclerc is really just mad at ferrari but since he's the golden boy, sainz is the easier target
I had flashbacks to Villeneuve and Pironi in '82 when it came to the "misunderstanding" of the team's orders/preferences. I hope I never have to think that again 😢.
that Zack Brown photobomb tho
idk if this counts, but it was told during the race that if sainz had pitted 2 laps earlier, which he wanted, he couldve had a chance to be p2. im not sure if this is reliable however, as it is just a prediction.
Sainz is leaving so he does not care about the team knowing he is going backward.
With Toto being told about Lewis moving to Ferrari and Mercedes not offering him that seat.
That was a shame on Mercs and Toto.
@@KKSky369 wtf, snitching doesn't entitle you to a seat. mercedes were always going Antonelli.
@@rozburg What do you know about F1? Do you know how to assess a driver's performance? You are clearly a hater and there is a high possibility of you being a Leclerc's fangirl. I will not entertain any blind hate speech here
@@KKSky369Cope
Mercedes is right about not hiring Sainz. In a decade his best finish is a 5th in the 2022 season. Everything else is 6th or worst. He doesn't have thr credentials to cause mayhem in Ferrari.
Over rated Leclerc doesn’t have what Sainz have, that ruthless mindset
What ruthless mindset ? If he had it, then he wouldn't be behind in every season
Nah bruv, Sainz needs therapy. He got outscored by Verstappen, he got outscored by Leclerc too. Charles spoke about respect, and if you didnt learn it by the age of 30, you need therapy
since 2021
Charles 992pts, 6 wins/29 podiums
Carlos 870pts, 4 wins/24 podiums
Sprint
Charles 0 win/6 podiums
Carlos 0 win/4 podiums
such a ruthless mindset.. cant perform better than overrated Charles?
overrated driver is 60 pts above his teammate with ‘ruthless mindset’ 😂
@@tcxtn3903Charles got more skills, but he definitely need more aggression if he’s gonna have the 7 time world champ as his teammmate
This whole “pressure” narrative is so stupid. Sainz overtook Leclerc with ease, and there was absolutely no need for the cars to be swapped as the team wouldn’t get any extra points. Leclerc being 2nd means nothing realistically. Next year when he has Hamilton as a teammate he’ll understand what real pressure means 😂
Righly said 👍
He outclassed Vettel coming from Alfa Romeo as a youngster, Im sure he will be just fine with a 40 year old Hamilton.
In my opinion, Charles will need a much more selfish mentality against Lewis, just as he was hungry to bite Seb away in 2019.
To be very clear: Charles needs to be his 2024 version skillwise (consistency in achieving Top4 positions, tire management) and his 2019 version mentally (taking nothing for granted, aggressive, wanted to prove himself).
With this together, he can not only beat Hamilton but be the champion 2025 when the car allows it.
When he is a pussycat instead of a tiger, he will not get it. Maybe this episode here "being nice f***s me all the time" is the start for Charles not being everyone's darling but a fierce competitor like Max. He could need that.
Definitely I am with Sainz. Let him enjoy the last races and race hard! Ferrari is too busy checking, coming back to you...... not ready etc.
Total joke how Ferrari treat Carlos..... Anything to derail his podium push and hand third place to Leclerc they tried..... Massively underrated..... One of the best drivers on the grid. Cannot wait to see him at Williams with a car he can fight for points with....
Thing is
Qatar is McLaren pretty much even with the high deg which may suit us
So this lead deficit is nothing
Also leclerc has been dragging a PU since the European rounds while Sainz got one for crashing in Brazil
🤡🤡🤡🤡Ferrari being Ferrari, that 'Stay out, Stay out', Monaco flashback
Yea, the thing is Carlos does not have anything at this point he needs to do to keep his seat. Likely, Carlos is never going to be in a race winning car again (sadly). So personally i would have done the same as Carlos.
Leclerc needs to get his emotions in check if he wants to be a world champion in the near future.
When he doesnt say anything people complain as well, that he should be saying what he has on mind. You think all champions didnt let show their frustration?
That's a very good point. I can't think of any World Champion who ever got emotional.
world champions don't whinge over fighting for 2nd place. just drive faster and don't expect freebies from your teammate.
@@stephenoxfSeriously?
@@jaejaejaejaejaejae yeah maybe Leclerc should not listen in the future to team orders and just do what he wants
I am amazed at how many creators are saying Sainz instigated this drama. This is Ferrari being Ferrari. Explain like I'm 5 why Sainz would sit behind Leclerc on a outlap on cold hards. Why he wasn't allowed to pit when he wanted to and then he was called in to pit, THEY WEREN'T EVEN READY.
Sainz made the right call. No matter the agreements they made pre-race. Leclerc can feel like Sainz screwed him, but Sainz prevented himself being screwed by his own team.
All this drama is because of charles. He intentionally whined on radio hoping people would back him and attack sainz, but people can see his bullshit and are tired of him playing victims
Just a suggestion: When you have to different radios (Leclerc's and Sianz's) maybe separate them more visually as people need go read it fast. Maybe colours or left/right part of the screen
The fact of the matter is Sainz is not treated well by the Ferrari. He won't help Charles in the remaining two races, even if the situation warrants and that's fine.
What pressure? He overtook him quickly and it wasn't a definitive team order. They screwed Carlos on the pitstop. This is on the team, not Sainz. They finished 3/4 and Sainz out qualified Charles and was faster all weekend. Your take on this makes zero sense. Charles is just butthurt he didn't get a podium and wants a vassal teammate.
They sacked him and expect him to be a nice guy. F them 😂
😂
Could say that as Vasseur being leader of the Sauber that they got things better on there and when he left to Ferrari. Things again went downhill at Sauber as Ferrari got better suddenly. Even it wasn't only the Vasseur but same time it sure feels that made things better.
It's all Ferrari's fault. Just like Sainz suggested, they could easily avoid this drama by boxing Sainz and allowing Leclerc to pass naturally. Ferrari asking Sainz to slow down behind a car with fresh tyres with no temperate in them is just ridiculous
Leclerc is entitled to expect his teammate who is leaving to give way to him..DELUSIONS MUCH!!!
Yeah maybe Leclerc shouldn't also listen to team orders for Sainz when he is leaving and just do what he wants as well
Yeah what delusion it is to expect your teammate to be respectful to pre-race agreements. Especially, when you, yourself, have always respect these agreements. This is a matter of pure respect and another reminder why no top team has hired Sainz.
@@ellea7927 why? because Sainz is faster than leclerc? they adapt throughout the race and if u want to play the team game as you say leclerc should've let him past.... fresh tires and everything....but yeah the terms was agreed before the race :D so stupid.... ego of a driver and a ferrari team.... but yeah thats why ferrari hasen't won a championship for so long
@@ellea7927 I still remember all the respect he showed Sebastian Vettel.(drove him RIGHT out of FERRARI with his repsect!!!)..DO YOU?
@@luciekralova1287 Leclerc DOES THAT REGULARLY>>>HAVENT YOU WATCHED HIM AT ALL THESE LAST YEARS!!!????
Cannot wait for all the drama Lecrerc and Hamilton are going to cause next year
2019 Brazilian GP 😂
Absolutely 💯
This was avoidable, but Ferrari managed to piss their 2 drivers and also have good results
Biggest opponent for Ferrari is Ferrari.
Carlos isn't getting many podums in the next few years so he might as well fill his boots when he can. I don't blame him. He was also overall just quicker than Charles that weekend.
Carlos should have started earlier this season to do his own thing, show that middle finger to Ferrari because they started the mess by hiring Lewis and sack Carlos!
True😂
you have such bios unreasonable video. shame…
I don't hear the recording of Carlos order when he was told not to attack
I hear Leclerc getting the message Carlos is told not to overtake.
Well, I think the "tension" between Carlos and Charles might actually help Charles in the long term. I do remember Austria 2019, when Max pushes Charles in turn 4 for the top spot of podium. Charles said after the race to be more aggresive and kinda pissed too. The results? That one-on-one battle in Silverstone 2019.
But I agree, this shenanigans are Ferrari's fault (although the strategy department is quite better than last few years, apart from Canada and Silverstone this year).
He had so much over speed on Charles what was he supposed to do this is 100 percent on the team
“Ferrari didn’t execute the race as well as they could have”. Lololol, literally the answer to any question about Ferrari in F1
Ferrari are clueless. Carlos was so much faster it would have been crazy for him to hold back - he didn’t fight Charles he just breezed past, he was that much quicker.
Same points for the team, charles is foghting for p2 not a championship, and there was a podium in play.
Carlos did well, Charles better be ready for a non cooperating teammate. Ferrari will suffer dropping Carlos, either lulu and leclerc and close, and fighting constantly, or far apart and one of them (likely lulu) not performing and complaining about the car.
They Aborted carlos pit stops to not undercut the lerec
Ferrari is the answer for anyone wondering
Every 5 races Sainz has enough pace to challenge Charles and as soon as that’s the case, he will not listen to anyone and try to maximize strategy for him!
Leclerc acting like a spoilt brat.
Considering he was out of the championship race, there is no reason charles should be given positi9n by carlos. The feam order is just leclerc appeasement. Effing pathetic.
there is reason it's called winning contructor champion.
@@Kittysune12 So it did not matter then who came third.
@@KeithHilton-w6uof course it did. Sainz giving DRS to Verstappen made it very risky for Leclerc, which couldve meant him finishing 5th and not gaining enough on McLaren.
@@KeithHilton-w6u it matter when the team able to pull 2-3 it's okay carloz get the 2nd as long ferrari get more point on the WCC
@@ludagaz he didn't give Max drs. That was again some poor commentary by Crofty and brundle and even they just thought he might be doing that.
A second place in the drivers standings doesn't mean that much certainly if its not achieved by your driving . First place in the constructors ranking is a big deal and Sainz didn't cost them points with his actions here , further had they pitted Sainz when he wanted he had a chance to fight for 2nd place. So it comes down to Leclerc's over agressive start and the poor tactics on the Ferrari pitwall don't blame Sainz for doing his own thing when the team tries to screw him.
'Trying to juggle those things is difficult for the team'. Boo hoo, they're professionals it's what they are paid to do. It's Ferrari, they act like they're F1 royalty so why should it be completely beyond their comprehension to keep two drivers happy at once? Ferrari has shown, time and time again, that they can't keep track of one driver, let alone two. Remember when Seb was in his last year and he was making the pit decisions for them? If it's too much for the team to do that is not Carlos' fault.
I don't agree with the whole "let your team mate beat you" logic. If Sainz is clearly faster and has better race pace why should he not use it? Is he supposed to just lift and coast so that Charles can build up an artificial lead? Sainz passed on merit in my opinion.