Addressing the allegations against me (steveee).

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  • Not guilty.
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  • @randomaxolotl2394
    @randomaxolotl2394 Год назад +34407

    I loved the part when he explained he isnt guilty

  • @thelazygamer2195
    @thelazygamer2195 Год назад +13034

    Steveee: “It’s often impossible to find the original source to these ideas.”
    Also Steveee: *Proceeds to show how easy it is to find the sources*

    • @Flamme-Sanabi
      @Flamme-Sanabi Год назад +486

      Common Steeve L moment

    • @synneke
      @synneke Год назад +301

      If it would be impossible, it would be the fault of youtubers who do the same thing like steveee, not crediting where they got that video from, so it is actualy his own fault if it was true

    • @manmanmanmanmanman
      @manmanmanmanmanman Год назад +4

      but where's the original?

    • @vusilaris
      @vusilaris Год назад +4

      fr

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 Год назад +109

      @@manmanmanmanmanman the original isn't on RUclips, and apparently steeve is to lazy to leave RUclips and find other sources..

  • @hunterharvey0716
    @hunterharvey0716 Год назад +5531

    Love how the man goes "I'm not guilty, I'm defending myself, please understand I'm not the bad guy" and the immediately swaps to "here's Mojang screwing up the names of their own characters" without missing a beat and I respect it so much.
    Don't ever change Phoenix.

    • @SuperJman1111
      @SuperJman1111 Год назад +317

      I watched that video earlier, I noticed that immediately and was really confused. Another thing is they have stone axes in the animation, whereas they have iron axes in game

    • @lifegrain6092
      @lifegrain6092 Год назад +165

      it may be intentional since "evokers" are not "vindicators", could mean steveee just brought something to mind and has brought nothing to justice
      or i can be an literature teacher with my skill of reading too much into it....
      and the way phoenix did it, if steveee tried to defend himself again from my interpretation of this then people would call him ridiculous because he "read too much into it"
      steveee is playing chess, while phoenix sc made the chess program steveee is playing on.
      or i read too much into it again

    • @SnekGaming25
      @SnekGaming25 Год назад +46

      Although I lost a deep interest in Minecraft a while ago, Phoenix still remains one of my favorite RUclipsrs of all time for this reason. He’s just one hell of a personality and is the type of guy I wish I had as a friend irl lol. So indeed. Never change.

    • @Demonic_Culture_Nut
      @Demonic_Culture_Nut Год назад +64

      @@lifegrain6092 Steveee isn't playing Chess, he's trying to move a pawn 3 spaces left. During a game of Reversi.

    • @lifegrain6092
      @lifegrain6092 Год назад +26

      @@Demonic_Culture_Nut he's able to play chess because the chess program show what move he can make, perfectly fits with how he just uses and copy things people have made
      he doesn't have to understand the rules, just execute the most basic things, i.e follow the usage tutorial

  • @labbit3574
    @labbit3574 Год назад +3988

    I like how he goes like “people are hating me” and then not even 30 seconds later proceeds to use “it’s very hard to find the original creator” as an excuse while showing the original creators

    • @ascendedbox612
      @ascendedbox612 Год назад +156

      While taking the ideas from the creators.

    • @firewarp8819
      @firewarp8819 Год назад +8

      who said those where the original creators?? they are showing that they are not the original maker by showing people who did it before them.

    • @darth3911
      @darth3911 Год назад +65

      @@firewarp8819His argument is that the ideas originated from other lesser known creators and that the people currently credited as the creators did not actually create the ideas.
      Knowing how games are this can be true in some cases but not all, unfortunately Stevee did not give enough evidence to cut himself free and instead just showed how lazy he himself is.

    • @thisrandomdude_
      @thisrandomdude_ Год назад +5

      "literally hating and bullying on me"

    • @firewarp8819
      @firewarp8819 Год назад

      @@darth3911 i don't care about his argument the comment is wrong

  • @kai-fw6hq
    @kai-fw6hq Год назад +5500

    Honestly, Phoenix did something extremely wise. He didn't get down to the level of Steeve, he simply ignored him because what Steeve did is horrible.
    Really, blaming other as a way to defend yourself is just extremely stupid, not only that, but he was blaming something that happened 3 YEARS AGO. I have a big respect for you Phoenix.

    • @Predated2
      @Predated2 Год назад +193

      What the other youtubers "copied" was very often through: Reddit links, specific people asking to showcase, showcasing it(aka, not presenting as their own work), shouting someone out before, during or after the build and giving credit. Not a single idea is posted as their own.
      What Steveee does: "you made this?" ........ "I maked this"

    • @isaiaholaru5013
      @isaiaholaru5013 Год назад +13

      He is a true Chad. Gigachad, even

    • @waspshower
      @waspshower Год назад +4

      Even if phenix stoll the video, why is Stevee the only one making a video?

    • @ImJustAnAbnormalPerson
      @ImJustAnAbnormalPerson Год назад +46

      @@waspshower Because he didn’t steal the video. He made his own video about an idea someone else had already done
      It’s like saying because one person shows you how to build a Flying Machine or TNT Cannon, nobody else is allowed to do that or else they’re stealing. Ignoring the fact that that’s stupid because everyone has their own way of doing it, and multiple people are able to showcase the same thing just as they’re allowed to play the same game

    • @dxcvvxd
      @dxcvvxd Год назад +2

      steveee wasnt even around 3 years ago lmao

  • @RaiderPlays
    @RaiderPlays Год назад +19589

    This situation is caused by a creator who was too lazy to make their own content blaming other Minecraft RUclipsrs that are the source of his content…

    • @lostkin9921
      @lostkin9921 Год назад +1211

      Bros mentality is like "you can't go after me because they did it first"

    • @NoIdeaWhatToDoHere
      @NoIdeaWhatToDoHere Год назад

      Kinda idiotic and clown move 🤡🤡🤡

    • @froakie14
      @froakie14 Год назад +93

      Exactly bro

    • @GavAttackO
      @GavAttackO Год назад +556

      Steveee's defense summed in a few words, "Well they don't post obvious links to original work so I don't have to do so either"

    • @hollowbeings
      @hollowbeings Год назад +58

      @@lostkin9921 hey I'm not on steveee's side but you literally said "because they did it first" , so I don't see how that allows these other people and phoenix to do that.. idk I'm tired it's nighttime and I have school tomorrow. I hope someone can explain that to me
      (Oh maybe I should mention that out of all of these people including Steveee I only watch Phoenix)
      Edit:No need to reply to me anymore already got it :p

  • @BananaManMeWantATan
    @BananaManMeWantATan Год назад +5607

    The claims Steveee made in that video are pathetic. He basically said “oh others steal content and it’s fine so I can steal content and it’s fine”

    • @EMOJlZ
      @EMOJlZ Год назад +128

      i think its less “others” and more “the people you are agreeing with”

    • @gooseosessooe
      @gooseosessooe Год назад +434

      Yeah like pheonix makes content based off what he sees on his subreddit and the other creators mentioned do similar things but steveee straight up TAKES the video and says that it's his

    • @CraftingCat_IX
      @CraftingCat_IX Год назад +21

      Thanks for saying it like that. I wasn’t sure how to phrase what I wanted to say but you got it exactly right

    • @gungle2595
      @gungle2595 Год назад +200

      The best part is, they aren't stealing content, they are making in game data packs based off of ideas, while steveee just uses other peoples datapacks

    • @oldrustyfishscalerman
      @oldrustyfishscalerman Год назад +15

      He tried and failed to call them hypothetical

  • @duxtorm
    @duxtorm Год назад +1548

    Phoenix trusts the common sense of his audience so much that he didn't even feel the need to defend himself and I love that XD

    • @thunderwind6826
      @thunderwind6826 Год назад +64

      Because just like him, we're smart enough to know what's right and wrong, and what's the truth and what's a lie.

    • @duxtorm
      @duxtorm Год назад +5

      @@thunderwind6826 I like ur pfp

    • @isaiaholaru5013
      @isaiaholaru5013 Год назад +43

      Trust is sometimes a double edged sword.
      Phoenix trusted us to make our conclusion. That's the good side.
      Steevee had watchers who trusted him (sort of) and then broke it, making a bad situation. That's the bad side

    • @TheIndispensableOpposition
      @TheIndispensableOpposition Год назад +16

      nobody should feel the need to defend themselves in this situation. Steveee is literally destroying himself with his own argument, just let him.

    • @duxtorm
      @duxtorm Год назад +30

      "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
      - Napoleon Bonaparte

  • @justerfrog5557
    @justerfrog5557 Год назад +368

    The ending gets even better when you remember what "vindicate" means

    • @QuietBorb
      @QuietBorb Год назад +11

      i didnt even think about it
      damn das clever

    • @itzolive3738
      @itzolive3738 Год назад +3

      What does it mean?

    • @Leonardobug
      @Leonardobug Год назад +5

      @@itzolive3738 Google it

    • @pumkin610
      @pumkin610 Год назад +43

      Dictionary

      Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
      Search for a word
      vin·di·cate
      /ˈvindəˌkāt/
      Learn to pronounce
      verb
      clear (someone) of blame or suspicion.
      "hospital staff were vindicated by the inquest verdict"
      Similar:
      acquit
      clear
      absolve
      free from blame
      declare innocent
      exonerate
      exculpate
      discharge
      liberate
      free
      deliver
      redeem
      let off
      let off the hook
      Opposite:
      convict
      blame
      incriminate
      show or prove to be right, reasonable, or justified.
      "more sober views were vindicated by events"
      Similar:
      justify
      warrant
      substantiate
      establish
      demonstrate
      ratify
      authenticate

    • @pumkin610
      @pumkin610 Год назад +32

      vex
      /veks/
      verb
      make (someone) feel annoyed, frustrated, or worried, especially with trivial matters.
      "thou shalt not vex a stranger"

  • @savvazotov4196
    @savvazotov4196 Год назад +801

    "Might be a virus, don't click it" is my new favorite passive aggressive way to point out someone being blind.

  • @K-os_Insurgent
    @K-os_Insurgent Год назад +113

    gigachad energy, he didn't dive super deep in drama and proceeded to turn it into a video. this is why I love Phoenix

    • @varahunter68
      @varahunter68 Год назад +2

      @@SpeedAcademy2 "abidemi lukman" the youtube handle system has its positives...

  • @ilbrasciolarochearrostelac8762
    @ilbrasciolarochearrostelac8762 Год назад +110

    He defended himself without saying anything like "no, I'm innocent", he just went to his subreddit, saw a meme, explained it and in the process silently defended himself by showing he takes most of his ideas from the sub.

  • @rapid0475
    @rapid0475 Год назад +10706

    This is the best RUclips apology video I’ve ever seen. Because he didn’t apologize. he called bull and moved on with his life, not caring about stupid drama and instead making a video.

    • @wydua2049
      @wydua2049 Год назад +250

      I mean because it's obvious that even if he has done something that someone else did
      He did it himself
      Not just downloaded MP4 of someone doing this

    • @Back-Track
      @Back-Track Год назад +166

      Well, to be clear, that was not even an apology video to begin with. It was just him blabbering about why he is "not the villain" and painting other youtubers as the bad guys.
      Edit: I'm talking about Stevee in this comment, not Phoenix. Sorry for the multiple people who had to correct me.

    • @Steven-nq7fx
      @Steven-nq7fx Год назад +25

      Because it isn't an apology. Get it right.

    • @RedIsntHome
      @RedIsntHome Год назад +34

      @@Back-Track I think he's talking about PhoenixSC's video(this one).

    • @mr.creeper6836
      @mr.creeper6836 Год назад +24

      When I was reading this a raindrop fell on the screen and it “capitalised” the o in mOved so my brain read it as moo-ved.

  • @coolboy4rocks
    @coolboy4rocks Год назад +1847

    Steveee is like that one kid who cries and tells the P.E. teacher you won't give him the ball even when he's on the other team

    • @Dusti_buns
      @Dusti_buns Год назад +95

      Yea I really don't get Steveeee.
      That death message for instance, of course there are gonna be more than 1 video made about that!
      And 'long pistons' have been talked and memed about for years.

    • @sugreF_YT
      @sugreF_YT Год назад +19

      I don’t know why I love this analogy so much lmao

    • @th8386
      @th8386 Год назад +3

      @@Dusti_buns you just defended steveeee? by saying that these concepts stick for years, youre justifying his creation of these videos, so he guilty because he did them later, but theyre not guilty because they did it eariler? its a timeless concept isnt it?

    • @theunium
      @theunium Год назад +45

      @@th8386 don't think so, phoenix, makenstein, etc. made their own versions of it. their own datapacks. however ppl like stevve just downloaded the datapack other people made, made a video on it and gave 0 credits to the person who made those datapacks.
      using a concept/taking inspiration to make something is not wrong, but stealing something, making a video on it and giving no credits to the person who made it is wrong. not to mention he watermarks his "showcases" with his name, even though he did not make it
      sorry if my english is not good, not my main language

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 Год назад +10

      @@theunium I don't see any problems with your English besides the lack of apostrophes and capitalization which is normal inside a RUclips comment section because this isn't English class and I should stop trying to use proper grammar till I frick up and look dumb. Good job :)

  • @AdonikamVirgo
    @AdonikamVirgo Год назад +59

    I love the part where he evokes feelings of vindication.

  • @firstnamelastname4224
    @firstnamelastname4224 Год назад +193

    i love the part where he said "time to address the allegations against me" and addressed the allegations against him all over the place

    • @adonysus
      @adonysus Год назад +21

      i think the line was “it’s phoenixin time”

    • @MilkieFeline
      @MilkieFeline Год назад +9

      @@adonysus And then he proceeded to Phoenix all over the place.

    • @byattwurns1553
      @byattwurns1553 Год назад +1

      I think he said “It’s addressing time!”

    • @sourkefir
      @sourkefir Год назад

      This is overdone content. Post removed from r/PhoenixSC

  • @longbeing
    @longbeing Год назад +4179

    The best defense: simply showing the accusation to the audience and moving on to more pressing matters, because you know their allegations are too weak to matter.
    It’s a great way to deal with the problem without escalation or feeding Steeveee’s attention-seeking behavior.

    • @angelarias3395
      @angelarias3395 Год назад +57

      Eh if it’s so outlandish that you know your fan base would side with you even without addressing it then ignoring it is best option. Don’t feed into their ego or attention seeking personality and they’ll absolutely lose it

    • @Guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
      @Guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Год назад +5

      This

    • @ethamdkurma3491
      @ethamdkurma3491 Год назад +1

      Bang saya aku belum main game roblox

    • @thenickstrikebetter
      @thenickstrikebetter Год назад +40

      I took the part where they talk about the evokers as a defense by showing an example of where they (at least often) gets their ideas, their subreddit. Then, showing how it turns into a video.
      Also, hi longbeing

    • @UrBrainzAreNotZafe
      @UrBrainzAreNotZafe Год назад +7

      The same thing technically happened with that vegan teacher too, her break outs and how she always pointed at big youtubers was just so she could look crazy and gain attention

  • @badingles735
    @badingles735 Год назад +3123

    At this point steveee is just dodging the accusations, there is a massive difference between inspiration with crediting an idea and just blatantly taking a video and putting your own watermark on it without mentioning the original creator

    • @PhantomGato-v-
      @PhantomGato-v- Год назад +119

      It’s what we in the Touhou community call “dodging into a bullet and bombing at all the wrong times”

    • @Periwinkleaccount
      @Periwinkleaccount Год назад +67

      He also needs to learn that credit does not necessarily clear up everything. It’s very unlikely that everyone will go to the original video, and some people might not be comfortable with having something they made be used by other people, that of course did not make the thing that they made.

    • @Lawg202
      @Lawg202 Год назад +81

      not to mention that some of the ideas in question are so basic that they could have easily been conceptualized independently.
      no one content creator has exclusive rights to "long piston." iirc the original mod that inspired the official pistons had ones that could push further than 1 block, meaning that idea has been present in the community _since before pistons were even implemented into the game._

    • @xenno8496
      @xenno8496 Год назад +2

      Indeed

    • @kofiiiii3146
      @kofiiiii3146 Год назад +23

      Dude he even copy Logan Paul's response video by not taking responsibility and pointing the blame to others. Next level copycat lmao

  • @ShortMiao
    @ShortMiao Год назад +27

    I love how everyone was expecting drama from this video when Phoenix just ended it saying that Mojang made a mistake in a video, completely changing the speech. He just moved on and didn't care, because it really is true, the only winning move is not to play.

  • @underpixel1
    @underpixel1 Год назад +28

    Best of wishes on your surgery Phoenix! And remember, take as much time as needed to recover, after all your health is more important than your fame and, even so we are always going to stick around wishing you the best.

  • @figo3554
    @figo3554 Год назад +5843

    Honestly I don't think someone of his moral caliber is one to speak about the wrongdoings of others.

    • @virtualrapture
      @virtualrapture Год назад +217

      And he even admits to copying from these creators in the first place 😂

    • @doodleplayer4014
      @doodleplayer4014 Год назад +1

      "I may have stolen stuff and plastered my own watermark on it, but these guys are the _real_ scum!"

    • @Yotes_
      @Yotes_ Год назад +71

      He's just seeking attention

    • @Beef_Cooker
      @Beef_Cooker Год назад +4

      Fr

    • @spykillergames8402
      @spykillergames8402 Год назад +44

      He didn't even speak that voice is characteristic of a TTS engine (text to speech)

  • @Apple_100
    @Apple_100 Год назад +2134

    did you know that statistically, left-handed people are better at writing than people with no hands

    • @Relphy
      @Relphy Год назад +110

      never would of guessed!

    • @Thomaas551
      @Thomaas551 Год назад +18

      ā

    • @dustee7553
      @dustee7553 Год назад +82

      @@Thomaas551 no need to be salty you rock head

    • @OG-YT
      @OG-YT Год назад +71

      Fun fact:
      People with eyes have a 100x better chance of shooting a target first try than someone without eyes!

    • @ItsLuke350
      @ItsLuke350 Год назад +30

      Did you know that people with dog turd smeared on their eyes, have the same chance of stabbing someone right in the heart as a blind guy?

  • @just-the-two-of-us
    @just-the-two-of-us Год назад +12

    honestly when i read the title i was very scared it was something terrible (i’ve seen it happen so many times where youtubers i like end up being horrible) im so glad it’s just this agh.

  • @cressrose
    @cressrose Год назад +1

    Hope the surgery goes well, and I wish you a swift recovery! :)

  • @isaac_smith
    @isaac_smith Год назад +6356

    You’re all good. Stevees attempt to expose other youtubers was ridiculous.

    • @Wonker_
      @Wonker_ Год назад +146

      all of his content is stolen

    • @heemanmcspeed
      @heemanmcspeed Год назад


      Your mother adopted you from a petri dish.

    • @DrHundTF2
      @DrHundTF2 Год назад +13

      Cannot tell if blind fan or bot

    • @upscale9109
      @upscale9109 Год назад

      ​@Ohjustgivemehatecomments
      I see what you're doing, sneaky bastard

    • @destinpatterson1644
      @destinpatterson1644 Год назад +38

      @@DrHundTF2 he's a bot, you can look at what other comments he's made on this channel, they're just copy and pasted with no context

  • @martinshoosterman
    @martinshoosterman Год назад +3423

    I don't know why I laughed so hard when the video ended.
    I was just watching, diligently waiting for him to make a point and bring it back to the point of this video. Then I realised that those weren't evokers and I forgot all about the point of this video for a second. Then just as I remembered about the drama, I checked how much time was left for Pheonix to tie everything together and the video ended.
    Absolute classic.

    • @jhonzatdm
      @jhonzatdm Год назад +120

      phoenix literally testing the limits of the span of his adhd people audience

    • @levimatthewhenson3324
      @levimatthewhenson3324 Год назад +9

      the "animates onto the next part" was apparently implied

    • @TactfulWaggle
      @TactfulWaggle Год назад +36

      I paused at that time, had a long chat with someone, came back and played the video and forgot that it was about drama lol

    • @aarizmohammed669
      @aarizmohammed669 Год назад +4

      i am the 1000 guy to like this commnt

    • @MareMayo56
      @MareMayo56 Год назад +1

      this was literally me right here.

  • @_ToL_9371
    @_ToL_9371 Год назад +11

    3:20 since when do vindicators have stone axes? LOL

  • @adamallen8787
    @adamallen8787 Год назад +6

    3:12 “do these colors look familiar to you” Game theory intro plays.

  • @_ZeroMaximum_
    @_ZeroMaximum_ Год назад +1134

    The Point: Phoenix is not guilty.

    • @dxcvvxd
      @dxcvvxd Год назад +111

      the ACTUAL point: vindicators are not evokers

    • @PromethealBee
      @PromethealBee Год назад +14

      @@dxcvvxd AND THATS A FACT

    • @upscale9109
      @upscale9109 Год назад +5

      ​@@acertainhumbuggy8669
      Holy shit...

    • @Neithan_Hirsch
      @Neithan_Hirsch Год назад +10

      @@acertainhumbuggy8669 this court finds the defendant, phoenix SC...
      NOT. GUILTY.
      *Crowd cheering, confetti and applauses*

  • @vlr7368
    @vlr7368 Год назад +1346

    Phoenix, I can't believe you dare create your own fun content based on submissions from fans in your community! That is a crime against incredibly talented -thief-- creator Stevee!

    • @SK1N_WALK3R
      @SK1N_WALK3R Год назад +18

      smh ikr?

    • @onestevewaffles
      @onestevewaffles Год назад +56

      Yeah! I mean, he only stole videos, didn’t credit, didn’t ask, didn’t give links, made a video about them making them the villain, make himself the victim, earn money from stealing, only that, right? People are so rude! Smh!

    • @zeeboss2762
      @zeeboss2762 Год назад +2

      nice joke

    • @KyzenEX
      @KyzenEX Год назад +3

      Smh my head dude omg god!!1!

    • @TheMobHunter100
      @TheMobHunter100 Год назад +3

      i couldn't tell if this comment i'm replying to is a comment that was made to go against steveee or side with him.

  • @bigdadbeefsticks
    @bigdadbeefsticks Год назад

    Good luck and hoping for a swift 100% smooth recovery

  • @vulcanstarlight
    @vulcanstarlight Год назад +3

    I enjoy your content, Phoenix!! I always look forward to uploads. Keep being you and making things fun. He’s just envious that he can’t even set up a mic… 😊 Love your stuff always.

  • @onlysmiles4949
    @onlysmiles4949 Год назад +813

    The transition to the vindicator segment was so smooth I didn't even notice what was happening until ~15 seconds later

    • @wingdingfontbro
      @wingdingfontbro Год назад +27

      I thought he was gonna go on about his content coming from his Reddit and then the video ended lol.

    • @akariaTXreaper
      @akariaTXreaper Год назад +8

      I didn't notice until after the video ended and thought I totally blanked on a part of it.

    • @wingdingfontbro
      @wingdingfontbro Год назад

      @@SpeedAcademy2 sussy baka

  • @k0lliak553
    @k0lliak553 Год назад +570

    It's funny that Steveee is accusing PhoenixSC for "stealing", which is actually just coding cursed images in the game that takes several hours of work and a very good knowledge of code in the first place, all while Steveee literally spends 10-20 minutes to cut/edit others content 💀(which takes way less skill than learning how to code)

    • @00_ontop
      @00_ontop Год назад +22

      it would take about 3-5 minutes to cut and edit with my 20 yr old pc lmao

    • @-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-ucq
      @-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-ucq Год назад

      I hope all of his Devices randomly blows up. He should be banned from accessing the internet again

    • @onestevewaffles
      @onestevewaffles Год назад +36

      Yeah, and what’s sad is when steveee copies off smaller RUclipsrs, he actually sometimes gets more watch time and money. I mean it’s obvious but… some of the RUclipsrs wouldn’t be able to speak about it since their channel isn’t big enough to be believed

    • @generallyunimportant
      @generallyunimportant Год назад +3

      @@onestevewaffles the smaller channels could support their own point by showing that they uploaded a video with the idea much earlier than that unoriginal palette swap of steve, but they'd still not be believed because no one would care.

    • @onestevewaffles
      @onestevewaffles Год назад +1

      @@generallyunimportant yeah, that’s my point! :D

  • @michaelmoney8619
    @michaelmoney8619 Год назад +8

    3:34 these "evokers" are also using stone axes instead of iron.

  • @lokiofblades1220
    @lokiofblades1220 Год назад

    Loved the video, good luck on surgery today Phoenix!

  • @theaiguy_
    @theaiguy_ Год назад +402

    I love how he completely dodges the topic and instead talks about the usual stuff 🤣

    • @RyanGP1203_MemeLord
      @RyanGP1203_MemeLord Год назад +1

      @@Ohjustgivemehatecomments nope

    • @ThatNoobKing
      @ThatNoobKing Год назад +4

      Just like stevee
      Dodging the question xd

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 Год назад +1

      @@ThatNoobKing Well, "dodged" if you ignore the first half of the video :V

  • @hanneslundin346
    @hanneslundin346 Год назад +1108

    Did he just… did he… did he just respond by looking at something completely different and not addressing the accusations? Gigachad. This is the proper way to handle these kiddos.

    • @RyanGP1203_MemeLord
      @RyanGP1203_MemeLord Год назад

      @Ohjustgivemehatecomments nope he's just an ass

    • @Hadeopelago
      @Hadeopelago Год назад +1

      Thats what I was wondering

    • @Vitenoxi
      @Vitenoxi Год назад +106

      "i need to respond to these allegations"
      *proceeds to show parts of the video and then talk about evokers

    • @SquarahKat
      @SquarahKat Год назад +97

      For a bit I thought I was just too stupid to understand the metaphor Phoenix was making...

    • @Sir_Steven
      @Sir_Steven Год назад +33

      I legit thought I accidentally clicked on a different video halfway through

  • @gucceh1178
    @gucceh1178 Год назад +17

    phoenix: *defending himself with facts and evidence*
    also phoenix: HE ISNT SUBSCRIBED!?!?!?!

  • @AWeirdLisa
    @AWeirdLisa Год назад

    I have a viral airway infection so I'm sick and somewhat delirious, I stumbled upon this video, I dont know any of these youtubers, I dont know what is going on and I'm so utterly lost and confused but Phoenix has my support, good luck with your surgery!

  • @jblthegreenkirby
    @jblthegreenkirby Год назад +426

    Long story short, Stevee made a scapegoat, phoenix is guilty for making good content and hope your surgery goes well phoenix!

    • @RyanGP1203_MemeLord
      @RyanGP1203_MemeLord Год назад

      @Ohjustgivemehatecomments he's just a prick

    • @xenno8496
      @xenno8496 Год назад +3

      Hmmm, well isn't this an oddity, RUclips says you have 1 reply...but I came to read it and it's not here...soooo, now you have 2'nt replies :/

    • @josiahb.1498
      @josiahb.1498 Год назад +1

      @@xenno8496 Now I'm the 3n't commenter

    • @fruitlukes1736
      @fruitlukes1736 Год назад +1

      @@josiahb.1498 I'm the 4th

    • @asomns4718
      @asomns4718 Год назад +7

      @@xenno8496 Yeah RUclips has long since implemented something in the comment sections which hides comments based on some arbitrary conditions. Like you could get a notification that a comment exists, but it wouldn't be viewable in comment sections. Honestly I have no idea what those conditions are, because bots constantly say sus things but don't get deleted so 🤷

  • @Skellyender
    @Skellyender Год назад +1545

    It’s all fine Phoenix, we’re on your side and we trust you. Vindicators are not evokers.

    • @pumkin610
      @pumkin610 Год назад +10

      Facts

    • @kewlsanic
      @kewlsanic Год назад +3

      Except bot above me. they are horrible.

    • @toolazytorenamemyself
      @toolazytorenamemyself 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah pretty much. Phoenix is in the right.
      But what I like about steveees "apology" is bro said tik tok content doesn't "strain the brain" when really it rots your attention span.
      Edit: Yeah I'm like revisiting this video and it's like old. Kinda just bored and accidentally had this video playing in the background and felt like commenting like very late.

  • @Thonga5
    @Thonga5 8 месяцев назад +3

    i what i love is how you credited his video in the description

  • @BaykaScott
    @BaykaScott Год назад +8

    1:51
    bro the credit is literally right on top!

  • @_Coopernicus_
    @_Coopernicus_ Год назад +923

    Just when we had thought stevee wouldn't get any worse

    • @wasntwas
      @wasntwas Год назад +19

      I stopped seeing steevee's videos, what has he been doing?

    • @robertbalazslorincz8218
      @robertbalazslorincz8218 Год назад +21

      Who even is this SteveE guy? He's such a noname I have legit never heard of him before until now.

    • @wasntwas
      @wasntwas Год назад +5

      @@robertbalazslorincz8218 from what I saw of him in the past without all of this, they just make fun youtube shorts of munecraft creations/mods.
      Not much to be controversial about...

    • @anaxolotl4119
      @anaxolotl4119 Год назад +49

      @@wasntwas steal content

    • @Yoshi_spielt
      @Yoshi_spielt Год назад +21

      @@wasntwas yea he copies 1 to 1

  • @pankoty1479
    @pankoty1479 Год назад +325

    Double it and give it to the next person

    • @youtubekingshaun928
      @youtubekingshaun928 Год назад +9

      Peak comment

    • @weezo123
      @weezo123 Год назад +11

      Do you want 2 apologies, or double it to the next person?

    • @Relphy
      @Relphy Год назад +3

      @@weezo123 Double it.

    • @OG-YT
      @OG-YT Год назад +1

      W comment

    • @spywalkz1
      @spywalkz1 Год назад +4

      Do you want 4 apologies, or double it to the next person?

  • @Echo06
    @Echo06 Год назад +4

    Your honor, the client wishes to enter a plea of:
    'Oopsie Daisy.'

  • @Herobrine_Playz
    @Herobrine_Playz Год назад +7

    The biggest problem with Stevee, isn't that he's stealing content. It's that he isn't subscribed to Phoenix.

  • @nowaaru
    @nowaaru Год назад +106

    ah, yes. "it is not reasonable to credit these videos because there are so many duplicates."
    lord help this man if he ever writes a college essay

    • @chorki4801
      @chorki4801 Год назад +13

      Lord help the world if college standards are ever low enough to let him in

    • @kringle7804
      @kringle7804 Год назад +3

      I think he's saying there is no one credit because you can't find the og
      It's like trying to give a patent when a million people claim it

    • @isaiahnaegiVODs
      @isaiahnaegiVODs Год назад +2

      @@kringle7804 thing is he complained about it, but apparently he was willing enough to go find the first person to do the idea just to "call out other RUclipsrs"
      Yet wasn't willing enough to credit the person he got the idea directly from, like one case I've seen multiple times is Mumbo Jumbo where he takes Mumbo's ideas and copies them without credit

  • @OG-YT
    @OG-YT Год назад +444

    Don't worry Phoenix, we'll still follow you and support you no matter what anyone says! Stay strong 💪

    • @Grindelsire
      @Grindelsire Год назад +40

      This is a questionable mindset for when something bad actually happens

    • @CreeperCart
      @CreeperCart Год назад +3

      @@Grindelsire lmao

    • @LachlanTheDumbPerson
      @LachlanTheDumbPerson Год назад +3

      Well what if he does some mess up stuff like dating someone underage (not saying he did, just saying what if that happens)

    • @Chase92488
      @Chase92488 Год назад +11

      as a swiss person i do not in any way agree or dissagree with this opinion

    • @Ranarim1807
      @Ranarim1807 Год назад +1

      Imagine if you'll regret it one day

  •  Год назад +8

    The fact steveeee's not subscribed already downright proves how innocent you are

  • @JustJayso
    @JustJayso Год назад +5

    "I'll let you watch it in your own time"
    As if we would watch Steevee regularly and unironicaly

  • @LuigixD
    @LuigixD Год назад +135

    Literally his argument:
    "If I cannot give a source to every single video I make, then I won't do it ever, whether I can or not"
    Conclusion: evokers are not vindicators

  • @oofy2166
    @oofy2166 Год назад +888

    Phoenix is an immovable object.
    He is not to be trifled with.
    You're all good here, I hope the surgery goes well.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople Год назад +3

      this is why i dont play minecraft

    • @mhn2500
      @mhn2500 Год назад +8

      "No matter how much the wind howls, the mountaint won't bow down to him"

    • @SirWhitez
      @SirWhitez Год назад +2

      when a unstoppable force will met the immovable object

    • @SherrifEgg
      @SherrifEgg Год назад +3

      This is what happens when a stoppable force (steveee) meets an immovable object (phoenix SC)

    • @foreverunsure
      @foreverunsure Год назад +3

      @@LavaCreeperPeople it's easy to play minecraft and absolutely ignore the entire community around it tho

  • @slashshot_yt1880
    @slashshot_yt1880 Год назад

    hope the surgery goes well!

  • @imford
    @imford Год назад +83

    I appreciate you addressing the allegations, I cannot believe Mojang would mess up such a simple thing like calling Vindicators the wrong name.

  • @gatarrrrk5500
    @gatarrrrk5500 Год назад +260

    I love this man's charisma. He effortlessly proved himself not guilty at the same time he kept the essence of his channel with the Mojang video.

  • @aykarain
    @aykarain Год назад +4

    Explanation of why he isnt guilty:
    1. Long pistons are a common idea, ive even thought of it before
    2. The bug was taken from either reddit or the bug report, maybe reddit took it from megamanny but its a bug anyway
    3. Stevee stole literal structures what

  • @Jeta_z
    @Jeta_z Год назад

    This is why i keep coming back to your video's even though i have stopped videogaming.

  • @tps_sp
    @tps_sp Год назад +582

    was about to be extremely worried you had a little sausage problem where it led you to the wrong age group or something along those lines. Finding out it's just Steveee, you immediately were in the clear for me

    • @blooTalkoes
      @blooTalkoes Год назад +22

      same

    • @nortalian549
      @nortalian549 Год назад +9

      I can’t tell if little sausage is a euphemism or the name of someone

    • @alcolito7265
      @alcolito7265 Год назад +51

      @@nortalian549 it's an euphemism

    • @andrewbloom7694
      @andrewbloom7694 Год назад +9

      I...have absolutely no idea what any of this means lol. It's like a different language

    • @psychomanatee3459
      @psychomanatee3459 Год назад +43

      @@andrewbloom7694 I think they thought phoenix was gonna be accused of being a p£do

  • @cesarthegreat5163
    @cesarthegreat5163 Год назад +123

    I love how Phoenix SC went from explaining the accusations against him to explaining proving some random Minecraft stuff.

    • @anciaa_
      @anciaa_ Год назад +1

      phoenix at his most fundamental

  • @STNDD
    @STNDD Месяц назад +2

    "I don't steal videos, I just steal the video but in 1 minute"

  • @Kenajovski
    @Kenajovski Год назад

    Man. This is some serious stuff right there. I'm glad you defended yourself. Vindicators are NOT evokers.

  • @dex2206
    @dex2206 Год назад +102

    I can't believe Pyrocinical would do this

  • @Natibe_
    @Natibe_ Год назад +383

    I have exactly 0% trust in anyone using voiceover AI so don’t worry, you’re good.

  • @Ssjvaca
    @Ssjvaca Год назад

    This is the best way to deal with controversy

  • @STA-3
    @STA-3 Год назад +8

    2:09 that is awesome

  • @lim8
    @lim8 Год назад +57

    this is the most "no you" response from steevee its hillariously sad lmao

  • @WellItsRyuseiPerson
    @WellItsRyuseiPerson Год назад +524

    Oh boy. Steveee is quite problematic (with a lot of proof). Shouldn’t be coming after you (or anyone who made a video about him & his stealing)
    You rock Phoenix & it’s in your right to defend yourself. There’s a large difference between stealing & expanding on something after getting inspired & also actually giving credit.

    • @chimecho2964
      @chimecho2964 Год назад +10

      @ٴ L + bot + ratio

    • @tristansavela619
      @tristansavela619 Год назад +7

      The bot account likely deleted the comment. Probably was a bot from stevee

    • @dacianatrif490
      @dacianatrif490 Год назад

      @@littlemxdreamie look who they replied to...

    • @juliantrasak7230
      @juliantrasak7230 Год назад +4

      There is also a large difference between evokers and vindicators!

    • @TomBombadil123
      @TomBombadil123 Год назад

      @👁 𝐒𝐄𝐄𝐊…👁 look at the @
      There should be a little mark to the left of it

  • @vindi167
    @vindi167 Год назад +6

    3:40 I love the part where you search my name

  • @smolchungus9213
    @smolchungus9213 Год назад +2

    This is the best youtuber apology video of All Time

  • @SamiTheAnxiousBean
    @SamiTheAnxiousBean Год назад +238

    Its honestly still so funny to see how little stevee has changed since he joined our "stop stevee" server
    His entire logic is "If other people do this thing I can do this vaugly similar thing despite the context being extemely different"
    (Oh also, megamanny (The channel Stevee claims phoenix stole the bug idea from) is ran by Воки (the same dude who runs Stevee's channel) so that made me laugh a lot when he mentioned it)

    • @nightowl548
      @nightowl548 Год назад

      There’s a server?

    • @zou1507
      @zou1507 Год назад

      For how long this server has been?

    • @SamiTheAnxiousBean
      @SamiTheAnxiousBean Год назад

      @@zou1507 no clue exactly but atleast since june 2021

    • @SamiTheAnxiousBean
      @SamiTheAnxiousBean Год назад +7

      @@nightowl548 yep, there's been one for a while
      It was started by some planet mc creators who's work was stolen by him and it's main goal was to actually get what Stevee is doing in the public eye (Which ironically Stevee did all by himself when he stole from people who actually had a platform)

    • @nightowl548
      @nightowl548 Год назад

      @@SamiTheAnxiousBean Could I gain an invite to this server?

  • @Memerath
    @Memerath Год назад +34

    If these allegations were to have any effect on any of the 4 creators, he'd have lost entire channel's worth content to steal. He's biting off his nose to spite his face.

  • @koenahn
    @koenahn Год назад

    One of the better apology videos on this platform

  • @H-Zorua-Enjoyer
    @H-Zorua-Enjoyer Год назад

    After you said he wasn’t subbed I realised I wasn’t subbed while I watch your content

  • @craft0nick150
    @craft0nick150 Год назад +458

    Wish you well, Phoenix. Rise from the ashes, like a real phoenix does

  • @battadia
    @battadia Год назад +61

    So Steveee got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and then says that it was _your_ hand.
    Sure, buddy, sure.

    • @TheTrueThanos
      @TheTrueThanos Год назад +7

      It's more like "Hey, you bought these cookies at the store, so therefore I can steal them"
      or maybe "You made these cookies using your grandmother's recipe, so I can take the cookies."

    • @kringle7804
      @kringle7804 Год назад

      @@TheTrueThanos more like you stole cookies too so I can
      In that case we just whole everyone accountable

    • @teriyakifiend
      @teriyakifiend Год назад +4

      @@TheTrueThanos i'd say it's more like "you got these cookies from the store, so that means i can too!"
      except phoenix actually paid for them whereas steveee's blatantly trying to tiptoe out of the door with a handful of stolen cookies, all while he's pointing fingers at everyone else but himself

  • @Artcat932
    @Artcat932 Год назад +2

    Stevee really just said “we steal ideas and convert them to short videos and we can’t credit them because we can’t find the sources, we are demonstrating this by showing you the fact we found the source.”

  • @jaysbadatgaming
    @jaysbadatgaming Год назад +2

    The fact that he mentions how the big RUclipsrs are “bullying” him makes me wonder if he’s a young kid, who may be unaware how plagiarism works and how it affects the original creators. I dunno, just a theory.

  • @spywalkz1
    @spywalkz1 Год назад +124

    I like the part where phoenix was addressing his allegation and allegated all over the place, this truly was the moment of all time.

    • @Lilaichii
      @Lilaichii Год назад +20

      would you call him an.... allegator?

    • @Jake28
      @Jake28 Год назад +1

      @@Lilaichii alli gator

    • @pinkharth860
      @pinkharth860 Год назад +2

      @@Lilaichii take my like and get out.

    • @shivers.ID_
      @shivers.ID_ Год назад

      @@Lilaichii I hate you with every part and atom of my soul

    • @zeeboss2762
      @zeeboss2762 Год назад +1

      @@Lilaichii pfffft, nice pun

  • @alexsheppard237
    @alexsheppard237 Год назад +173

    I stopped watching Steevee ages ago, unsure why but this only cements that I will never return. Phoenix, your reasoning was so bulletproof and obvious that I felt like a fool for even watching Steevee years ago. Absolutely congratulations on the global peace award btw.

    • @pumkin610
      @pumkin610 Год назад +3

      Yeah people were saying that they were a thief ages ago so I avoided their content

    • @breakfast_burrito
      @breakfast_burrito Год назад

      @@SpeedAcademy2 nAH
      comment bots
      they so dumb

    • @valleyofparadise
      @valleyofparadise Год назад

      @@pumkin610why does it matter if they steal content or not

    • @pumkin610
      @pumkin610 Год назад +4

      @@valleyofparadise theft isn't exactly a respectable activity, especially stealing hard work like redstone and not giving credit it's despicable. Not as despicable as animal rescue videos and family channels but ehh its up there

  • @stephaniethebatter7975
    @stephaniethebatter7975 Год назад +6

    As for the weird death message thing, does Steveee even consider that maybe someone might be doing a subject someone else has done... because they got inspiration from something else?
    Hell, I discover something cool and tell others about only to get a response of "We _know,_ doofus!"

  • @jedodom3056
    @jedodom3056 Год назад +52

    Oh, wow, Stevee. I had no idea Phoenix SC would steal the idea of longer pistons from someone else. It's completely impossible that he could have done this crazy thing called coming up with the idea on his own. I can't believe that Phoenix didn't think of pistons but longer many years after the first video about it came out. Long pistons is such an incredible and crazy idea, no wonder he had to steal it. He couldn't possibly have thought of it himself!
    (Because this is the internet, I have to specify. This is sarcasm.)

    • @dissaprovingsteven7081
      @dissaprovingsteven7081 Год назад +21

      It's ridiculous, it's almost as if Phoenix SC just makes stuff he sees on his subreddit!

    • @henrikino
      @henrikino Год назад +3

      I can only imagine that the guy who accused Phoenix thinks like this cause it's the same thing he is apparently doing for ages (Copying content), in his mind maybe it's the only way to come with stuff

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 Год назад

      for sarcasm just type /s at the end. For a joke just type /j at the end
      if someone doesn't understand then you can proceed to laugh at them
      /s

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 Год назад

      @@henrikino There's a theory that we can't even make original ideas. Like it's impossible to make new ideas, only remixed ideas that you already know of. The most common example used for this is that you can't imagine a new color

  • @shizune_
    @shizune_ Год назад +17

    I love that his defense is "yeah, i don't know why I'm in this situation. anyways, back to correcting mojang again."

  • @temporalquarter9866
    @temporalquarter9866 Год назад

    lmao the way you said that last line i love it

  • @AA-de6gp
    @AA-de6gp Год назад

    i was waiting to see how he would address them...and then the video ended. Gotta say, I'm convinced

  • @uAaronn
    @uAaronn Год назад +9

    "People profit off of me"
    "I take a 9 minute video and reduce it to 1 minute, it's what the viewers need!"

    • @Ducky935
      @Ducky935 Год назад

      literally just Uno reverse card himself in his own video about stolen content

  • @rhinoek
    @rhinoek Год назад +78

    I was ready to hear the defense and I'm so glad phoenix did his usual and just did something completely different, was not expecting it lmao

  • @psjahn
    @psjahn Год назад +2

    "These are some serious allegations" had me dying on the floor

  • @lavendershell
    @lavendershell Год назад

    This video is amazing and you did a really good job explaining yourself. Evokers are indeed not vindicators.

  • @Poopen_Fartenius
    @Poopen_Fartenius Год назад +30

    I loved when Steevee said "it's allegations time!" and then allegationed all over the place

  • @Jule-Craft_1495
    @Jule-Craft_1495 Год назад +56

    Fun fact: soon if we for some reason want to see Steveee’s “exposed” video for ourselves, it will take a few scrolling through his countless stolen videos he makes every day. He already made like five after the video!

  • @The_MadDuck
    @The_MadDuck Год назад +1

    I love the part when he said it's Phoenixing time and then talked about vindicators

  • @mrpaintwolf2010
    @mrpaintwolf2010 Год назад

    i thought i was having a drug trip or i spaced out for a sec, had to check the comments
    good video, stay safe

    • @SpeedAcademy2
      @SpeedAcademy2 Год назад

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  • @Fin_The_Fox
    @Fin_The_Fox Год назад +15

    Good luck with the surgery, and I hope you have a quick recovery!

  • @ecclesman
    @ecclesman Год назад +27

    it took me a second watch through of that part to realise what you did. Using the evoker and vindicator thingy as a metaphor is genius honestly

    • @flashlightning6742
      @flashlightning6742 Год назад +4

      I realized it was an analogy, just can't figure out how exactly it all works lol.
      Is it that stevee is an evoker, because he made the style and send his "vexes" (fans) to attack other creators, and the creators stevee attacks are "vindicators" who are trying to take him down?

    • @MrMcSpiff
      @MrMcSpiff Год назад +7

      @@flashlightning6742 It's not even that complicated. It's literally just "look at this guy talking out of his ass about something that's incredibly obvious to anyone with five minutes of experience in the fandom they're trying to talk about. He's just as bad as Stevee."

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 Год назад

      @@MrMcSpiff i had a stroke reading that

    • @MrMcSpiff
      @MrMcSpiff Год назад

      @@tomikun8057 did you clean up after?

    • @flashlightning6742
      @flashlightning6742 Год назад +1

      @@MrMcSpiff Oh I see, I assumed it was deeper than that lol. That does make sense, he is showing how Stevee just pointed out an obvious mistake/slip up and acted like those creators violated the Geneva Convention.
      Don't know what that other reply to you was about, it was as clear and easy to read as any other comment is.

  • @PBCSandMarci
    @PBCSandMarci Год назад +2

    I feel like everyone who played minecraft and first saw a piston thought "what if they can go further?"

  • @Icantstop850
    @Icantstop850 Год назад +2

    I loved the part where he said "it's explaining time." and explained all over the place.

  • @ignis2638
    @ignis2638 Год назад +16

    That was honestly the best explanation of how you make your content and sometimes accidentally copy other people, I'm so proud that you decided to address these allegations and prove them wrong

  • @dr.dman348
    @dr.dman348 Год назад +84

    It's times like this when, for some reason, I say out loud even though I'm home alone: "We love you Phoenix"