That’s because she’s obviously been working hard in her training + there isn’t much competition in iland as a lot of these girls sound awful or can’t dance or struggle with stage presence or a combo of those.
@@jennnavenus1415 I doubt that is the case, but if it is, they did it to protect her, as the way she was entering that line meant she was 100% going to crack her voice. They either muted a voice crack out or she skipped the line
How is Um Jiwon D??? She is literally like top 5 in Vocal. I understand thst dancers are good to have but have of the people that are getting voted for can't even sing right
I agree with Jeemin in B, it sets her up for the redemption arc too, i also would put kim gyuri in B and jiyoon in A, I think yuju also will have a comeback arc in the show similar to gp999 dayeon. I thought Yeeun would be the Sohye but it seems many people are just dropping her now
I felt bad giving Jeemin a B but I had to not be biased. We all know she can do sm better. She has the best stage presence, but ngl it was kinda sad to see her have a voice crack just like she did in RUNext :(. No but I want jeemin to debut and I'm rooting for her! I was having issues with Gyuri. I wanted to give her a B, but she judges REALLY liked her, as they portrayed on the show. After Like's an hard song and she did her best with the higher notes and compared to the other team members, she stood out. I think for ME I would give her a B. I am hoping for Yuju's comeback, she's one of my picks. Yeah for Yeeun, I unfortunately don't think I will be supporting her since this is a smaller show and I'm not too sure of her charm yet.
@@KPOPTrashLyricsIf you graded these and not produce how will you grade the trainees? For me A Kim Gyuri Choi Jungeun Yoon Jiyoon Jeong Saebi Kim Sujung Hayashi Fuko Ryu Sarang B Nam Yuju Kim Minsol Um Jiwon Bang Jeemin Hamaue Yui C Lingling Choi Soul Tomioka Mai D Oh Yuna Kim Chaeeun Park Yeeun F Tabata Nana Kang Jiwon
i gave her a D b/c shes very young, when she did yunjins part she didn’t bend back as far as the original choreo is, and i think she has potential. but she has shown sm improvement in the latest episodes!!! tbh i dont want her to debut w iland 2 b/c shes rlly young and could use this as a stepping stone for the future. she will def dominate the scene
lingling is so robbed, i agree that shes kinda invisible / doesnt find her own flair YET but mnet is literally cutting her already mediocre screentime even more thus further feeding into the notion that shes overhyped. of course people would say shes overhyped when mnet is literally giving her 0 screentime. yeah shes not on the main vocal / main dancer level yet but she has that captivating charm, something about her aura pulls me in. also people complaining why she got so much support when shes the only SEA representative here. she can even speak chinese which will definitely help since there are no other chinese contestants. as of now she pulled her own weight, she did not ruin any parts. unless she does suck like voice cracks / obvious moves mistake, i will still place my support for her. definitely top 4 among all of the grounds.
I agree, it's like Bahiyyih in Kepler. She barely got screen time outside of the first episode, but because she got votes still everyone thought she was over hyped 😭 They don't know how her fans literally found any clip she was in and make compilations of her performing because Mnet refused to show her being friends with everyone😭 I agree, I am actually happy Lingling is getting support despite Mnet being shady and the lack of screen time. I think the group should have a member who speaks Chinese and I understand why people want her in the group. When the fan votes come in, I think she will get in 100 percent as long as she gets out of the ground 😭
@RoyaleMusical I mean, she’s only 15 and a trainee for 6 months. She’s got PLENTY of time to grow and improve even more and debut (hopefully a little older than she is now…)
Team Baggy Jeans(my fav performance) •Koko A (slayed and left no crumbs,her dance,rap was great and her stage presence very natural and catchy) •Yui A (strong rapper,strong stage presence,strong dancer,she deserves more screen time,very solid performer) •Yuju B (her stage presence is another level,strong rapper,her vocals were pretty good there was just some mistakes,overall she ate)
I would put Choi Soul as C or B because she made no mistakes and also originally made it into Iland, Eunchae shouldn’t be higher than her she made many vocal mistakes
I actually liked Nam Yuju the best in her group. Not really a fan of Koko's voice but Yui was also really good I want them 2 to be the rapping duo of the debut group.
I really liked Nam Yuju too! I really liked Koko's voice personally b/c she's giving the fierce vibe the other contestants IMO don't have at all. I hope one/all of them make it!!
@@KPOPTrashLyrics ITS FINE LOL BUT I WAS SO CONFUSED I WAS LIKE "is that my keyboard..? no its still working ok is it my mouse? no that still works too"
To be honest I was dissapointed on every performances...I don't know if it's because recent vocal scandals but none gave me the main vocal vibe at least... just Jeongeun and she's good at dancing and rapping too but not a main vocalist... Also are people tone deaf? Why anybody is complaining about sound system? When Koko sang it was clear they used a kind of sound arrangement to each one trainee to make it sound better. Also happened sometime in R U Next (a bit dissapointing too) but I hope production don't use it anymore because ,don't trainees have to be talented?...
@@KPOPTrashLyrics SAMEE (my picks in my tennage girl were yoon seungju, lee youngchae, park boeun, kim riwon, kim hari, yoon chaewon and myung hyungseo) 😭😭💗
UMJI D😭??? She literally was so stable doing Yunjin's part and hit the high note omg what Also for the cake performance u must've switched eunchae and soul or what?? Cause sould carried the performance😭
i don't want to get killed in twitter for this, i will assume this is a safe place. but the trainees are all so average! i was really dissappointed, there's no main vocal, most of these girls are performers. sorry you will not convince me jungeun is main vocal material, she's just the only one who can pull high notes and sound (kinda) stable while dancing. tbh the only strong trainees are fuko, jeemin, yuju, yui, jungeun and jiyoon. the rest i just like them for their pretty faces
agreed like none of these girls can compete with any of the Produce series main vocals, even Girls/Boys planet or even MTG though. Jungeun couldn't even stand a chance against Son Jiwoo from RUNext. Guess the vocal game in Kpop is getting weaker every year. Glad that NMIXX and ZB1 carried this era.
I really liked Yui!!! I think there was moments when she was in the centre that she seemed out of focus/not taking advantage of it. But Ik she'll do so well in the next stages
Our opinions are really similar, you gave all my current picks A. I'm just sad about Yui not making it cause she was the only competent rapper. I'm sure someone like Koko can do rap lines but a proper rap verse? The group will have to go without.
I know.. I'm sad about Yui only because she was promising, but I think she lost support for her Final Love Song performance. But I really hoped she would have won over everyone with her IWALY performance. And I think Koko can def do the rap lines OR the group will just not be rap heavy. Either way, I can see Koko, if she gets in, getting some more rap lines and training a bit more in that. Same with the other members.
@@KPOPTrashLyrics I just really hate when they force competent vocalists to do rap instead, but I do like some rap in my songs. So I'd like for the group to have some members who aren't likely to get a vocal position and have some experience rapping - like Koko.
@@KPOPTrashLyricsYeah I missed Yui, she was my ult along with Lingling. And Nan Yuju is a better rapper than Koko so I see both of them being in a rap line in the girl group.
Here are my contestants that get my 'ace member' benefit, based on which ones put in effort/which ones are underrated in my opinion. The 'ace member(s)' benefit keeps the specific trainees with that benefit from getting eliminated early, but it is only active for members who have a *D grade or any grade above that.* Unforgiven (Le Sserafim) - Ryu Sarang (Ace Member)/Kim Minsol (underrated) After Like (IVE) - Kim Gyuri & Fuko (Ace Members)/Kang Jiwon (underrated) Sweet Venow (Enhyphen) - Kim Sujung & Jeong Saebi (Ace Members)/Lingling (Underrated) Cake (Itzy) - Yuiko (Ace Member)/Choi Soul (Underrated) Baggy Jeans (NCT U) - Koko (Ace Member)/Nam Yuju (Underrated) Drama (Aespa) - Choi Jungeun & Bang Jeemin (Ace Members)/Mai (Underrated) Ace Members: Ryu Sarang (Unforgiven by Le Sserafim) Kim Gyuri & Fuko (After Like by IVE) Kim Sujung/Jeong Saebi (Sweet Venom by ENHYPHEN) Yuiko (Cake by ITZY) Koko (Baggy Jeans by NCT U) Choi Jungeun & Bang Jeemin (Drama by Aespa)
If this was using grading system like runext Sarang - HIGH Juwon - MID Minsol - MID Jiwon - LOW Gyuri - HIGH Fuko - HIGH Chaeun - MID Jiwon - LOW Yeeun - LOW Sujung - HIGH Saebi - MID Lingling - MID Yuna - LOW Yuiko - HIGH Soul - MID Eunchae - MID Nana - LOW Koko - HIGH Yui - MID Yuju - LOW Jungeun - HIGH Jeemin - HIGH Jiyoon - MID Mai - LOW
some of these were very VERY generous rankings, I feel like a lot of the people that got A's didn't blend in seamlessly with the song so it felt highschool recital-y, lacking that wow factor I would say?
My top 7 Now 1.Fuko:Center, Lead Vocal, Leader 2.Bang Jeemin:Main Dancer, Rapper, FOTG 3.Nam Yuju:Main Rapper, Lead Dancer 4.Choi Jungeun:Main Vocal, Lead Dancer 5.Kim Sujung:Main Dancer, Lead Vocal 6.Mai:Lead Rapper, Lead Dancer, Visual 7.Kim Gyuru:Lead Vocal
As a follower of Produce 101 since season 1, it's quite difficult for someone to get into the A class because the judges have very high standards, so I think there are some who are not suitable to be in the A class.
I would give Um Jiwon a B or C And Soul a C Soul was stable during cake Edit: so sorry, what I meant to say was that Umjiwon didn’t sound bad during Unforgiven
This is mine If anyone has questions or is curious please reply and I’ll explain my reasoning A: Ryu Sarang Kim Gyuri Fuko Jeong Saebi Koko Choi Jungeun B: Son juwon Kim Sujung Yui Nam Yuju Bang Jeemin Yoon Jiyoon C: Kim Minsol Um Jiwon LingLing Kim Eunchae D: Kang Jiwon Park Yeeun Yuiko Choi Soul Mai F: Kim Chaeeun Oh Yuna Nana
I know you're grading the individual trainees to determine who stays in I-LAND and who goes to Ground, but you do need to look at how the trainees work together in their group unit, especially as you're saying you're a survival show enthusiast. As an example, GP999 Ice Cream, when Dayeon had the responsibility of choreographing that song, she managed to create transitions, formations, she did a highlight for herself whilst highlighting other girls and subunits. It was a masterpiece! But it was a group mission and came across as such. For Boys Planet, Kill This Love (G Group), each trainee killed their part but what made the performance was their interaction and how each part worked together. And going back to the original I-LAND Chamber 5, each trainee brought their distinct charm to the song, but the performance worked because they worked together. When I watched the audition stages, the only performance that showed a group performance was the Baggy Jeans unit and that was because they worked together. Granted, Koko was the best of the three but Yuju was not entirely horrible because they worked as a unit. Yui had obvious hip-hop training but lacked Koko's all rounder skills. Although you grade some of the trainees with an A, for example the Drama unit, I found that unit to be almost unwatchable as a group as they were borderline preening and that's not what I want to see. If you go back and watch the original aespa MV, wow, the power in their movements, there is purpose in how they interact with each other, how they interact with the camera, they don't have to preen, their presence is power. I understand these girls are trainees and don't yet know the meaning of being an idol but this is a learning moment.
Very true statement! Baggy Jeans team worked so well tgt and i think they had the best synergy out of all the groups! I think performance wise, they would be AAB or ABB but the judges seemed to not love yuju’s performance, especially as the judges are “performance directors”.
@@KPOPTrashLyrics ABC was a correct assessment for Baggy Jeans. Koko is a good all rounder; Yui is a better dancer than she is a vocalist; Yuju needs to pick up her feet and have more fluidity in her movements but the point was as you said the group synergy. All of the missions are group missions, the interactions are within a group setting. Son Sung Deuk/HYBE made a comment about knowing how to support the center when you’re not the center, the different energy it takes while still matching the group energy. You learn while doing that with your team. I hope the mentors impart that type of critical thinking to the trainees.
Omg I watched you before!! I love how you grade honestly, By the way I’m curious if you are gonna make a universe ticket version? Not forcing!! Just curious
Thank you sm!! I love making these videos. I was actually in the process of making a UT video but its taking me a long time cuz theres sm contestants and they have individual videos compared to groups so yes… I will try my best!!!
Ooo this sounds like a good idea. I might have some trouble only bc I’ve based everything off of the whole produce series itself… Maybe I can do I-LAND cards for PD48 performances
Team Sweet Venom (Strong stage presence,but very disappointing vocals) •Saebi B (her sp was insane,however she needs to improve her vocals) •Sujung B (to be honest I was shocked that her voice is stable,however that’s not enough,her falsetto was very bad placed and poor quality) •LingLing D(I think she deserves more screen time,she needs some improvements) •Oh Yuna D (She has distinct face,however her facial expressions were awkward same as her vocals) Team Cake(the most forgettable performance) •Soul C (her facial expressions were good,but not her vocals) •Eunchae D (same as Soul) •Yuiko D (same as Soul and Eunchae,but her facial expressions weren’t very natural) •Nana F (she needs to train more)
(Just adding to my comment as I watch, not hating on your picks😅💃🏽) I would give Yuna a C and lingling a B, I think I really enjoyed everyone in Sweet Venom. I would give Soul a B instead of a D, I think she did better than everyone in her group. i would give Yuju a B and Yui an A. I totally agree with the other grades though
Greetings from Southern California and the Western United States 🇺🇸! I saw some of the entrance performances by way of MNET on RUclips and I agree with the group performances or as I like to call it " Channel Your Inner ", in this case Enhyphen's ( I think I got the name right 😜 ) Sweet Venom, IVE's After Like and Itzy's Cake...the three groups needed work,ASAP! They sounded like After LIFE 😵💫...no ☠️...but darn close to it, BURNT Cake and SALTY Venom ( can you cure with that?!? ). This could be even tougher than the first I-LAND or Queendom Puzzle ( The Voice ain't got nothing on this, it's a doozy, especially when you have the top names of producing the best K-Pop South Korea have to offer to the world 🌎🌍... LITERALLY! ).... but I'll need rewatch some of the recap videos though just to be ( kindly ) safe. Keep us posted on the competition and we'll see who'll find paradise or perils on I-LAND 2 : N/A, competition REALLY does have no limits! ( A little shout out to Ultraman Zero, it's his 15th anniversary this year, kinda fits the description doesn't it ? 😄! )!
way too many A's to be accurate and no where near enough F's. The fact that A had the most is wild. Like I think the contestants are good but that is not what Produce cared about
in today’s standards, these are mostly considered A level trainees, but in 2015, i doubt it, if they did these performances on produce 101, i think probably half of these people to earn a “D.” in produce 101.
Unbiased listener here....for drama Mai is definitely F same with Jeemin, Jiyoon is the best person in drama she should get an A and Jungeun get a B because she sounded very nasal there. I have learnt you are very lenient in these rankings as you rank them as A when they have pitchiness.
Imo Team Unforgivem •Sarang B(strong sp,stable vocals,but I don’t think that her vocals and dance are A) •Juwon B(same as Sarang,but Sarang’s voice was a little more stable) •Minsol B(strong facial expressions,again vocals are not A) •Jiwon C(Imo her vocals were more solid than others,but she was nervous and her facial expressions weren’t that catchy) Team After Like(very forgettable performance) •Fuko A (her facial expressions,vocals were very good) •Kim Gyuri C (her voice is stable and she’s very cute,but her facial expressions aren’t that good) •Park Yeeun D (She tried to do her best with facial expressions,but it was a little bit awkward,she’s very charming,but her vocals need some training) •Kim Chaeeun D (Poor vocals,poor facials and very forgettable performer) •Kahn Jiwon D (Her facial expressions🗿,she hadn’t even tried)
For Unforgiven, I agree, I think my A's may have been a bit generous. I kinda saw them as "first group to go usually gets nicer evaluations". The judges seemed to like Sarang and Juwon. But compared to others, they would be B. I think I would change that tbh. How I saw it too was like "put them in A and see how they stand" kinda vibe
@@Livingstonroad_1Who? Me or Mnet? I actually like lingling. i gave her a C but could have easily given her an D/F based on judges. I think she deserved more I tickets than shown on the show. She did well in her performance
Team Drama (Avengers team) To be honest I expected more!!! •Jungeun A (deserved her 1st place,her dance,stage presence and vocals are amazing,she slayed) •Jeemin B (queen,she slayed,her facial expressions were incredible,however I expected more vocals) •Mai B (very captivating performer,her rap was really good and her stage presence was really good) •Jiyoon C (very stylistic vocalist and some moments were poor connected)
I expected more for an "Avengers" team as well. With Mai, I think she has so much potential, her voice for me was just very scratchy and changed the vibe of the song. Her dance is very good like did u see that high kick???? Jiyoon - yes - I know what you mean. I think her voice didn't fit for some lines, but she's one of the more promising vocals than what we saw so far. But I think a C is a fair grade for her too despite her being a "good vocalist".
Wad Park Yeeun that bad? I know she wasn’t as good as Fuko and Gyuri, and she was slightly off her position during the dance, but I think she still did better than Nana overall. I would give her a D.
I gave a an F because she didn’t match up to many of the other contestants. She showed she needs some foundational work based on her mistakes. F isn’t bad, it just means she needs to work on her basics to improve
apologies for the quiet audio. I play it quietly so I don't get my vid taken down!
Edit: Jeong Saebi's name should be : 정"세"비
i remember when you were grading gp999 you gave fuko a C, now she has an A!
ahh!!! so happy to see u watched from before. yes fuko improved sm and I'm so happy she's getting recognition!
That’s because she’s obviously been working hard in her training + there isn’t much competition in iland as a lot of these girls sound awful or can’t dance or struggle with stage presence or a combo of those.
@@MBJK_babyfinally someone who says it as is 😂
@@animecuredmydepression6700 that’s what I do.
It was actually a D
"Im not a professional, just an avid survival show watcher" lol right??? I wanna do this too now lol
YESSS DO IT. survival shows r my guilty pleasure
my standout of each performance:
Baggy Jeans: Koko
After Like: Fuko
Cake: Choi Soul
Unforgiven: Ryu Sarang (most standout overall performance)
Sweet Venom: Jeong Saebi
Drama: Choi Jungeon
Tbh I would put Yuju on B, she forgot a line, but after all she did really good, she is good at dancing and rapping, and she has the presence
I wanted to give her a B, but since the judges didn't even pass her, I gave her a C
Base on judges
If this were produce, there's no way she would get higher than a C after skipping a line
@@sapphire6806 she didnt skip it . the mic wasnt working properly . there is proof on x
@@jennnavenus1415 I doubt that is the case, but if it is, they did it to protect her, as the way she was entering that line meant she was 100% going to crack her voice.
They either muted a voice crack out or she skipped the line
How is Um Jiwon D??? She is literally like top 5 in Vocal. I understand thst dancers are good to have but have of the people that are getting voted for can't even sing right
FR, and I’m always so confused how she went to the ground with her inicial performance
I agree with Jeemin in B, it sets her up for the redemption arc too, i also would put kim gyuri in B and jiyoon in A, I think yuju also will have a comeback arc in the show similar to gp999 dayeon. I thought Yeeun would be the Sohye but it seems many people are just dropping her now
I felt bad giving Jeemin a B but I had to not be biased. We all know she can do sm better. She has the best stage presence, but ngl it was kinda sad to see her have a voice crack just like she did in RUNext :(. No but I want jeemin to debut and I'm rooting for her!
I was having issues with Gyuri. I wanted to give her a B, but she judges REALLY liked her, as they portrayed on the show. After Like's an hard song and she did her best with the higher notes and compared to the other team members, she stood out. I think for ME I would give her a B. I am hoping for Yuju's comeback, she's one of my picks. Yeah for Yeeun, I unfortunately don't think I will be supporting her since this is a smaller show and I'm not too sure of her charm yet.
Eh, I disagree with giving jiyoon an A. She was lacking in stage presence imo
@@KPOPTrashLyricsIf you graded these and not produce how will you grade the trainees?
For me
A
Kim Gyuri
Choi Jungeun
Yoon Jiyoon
Jeong Saebi
Kim Sujung
Hayashi Fuko
Ryu Sarang
B
Nam Yuju
Kim Minsol
Um Jiwon
Bang Jeemin
Hamaue Yui
C
Lingling
Choi Soul
Tomioka Mai
D
Oh Yuna
Kim Chaeeun
Park Yeeun
F
Tabata Nana
Kang Jiwon
i think jiwon from unforgiven deserved higher than after like people who got D's (great vid tho!!)
Fr right!!! She's so underrated and talented, she deserves more recognition
i gave her a D b/c shes very young, when she did yunjins part she didn’t bend back as far as the original choreo is, and i think she has potential. but she has shown sm improvement in the latest episodes!!! tbh i dont want her to debut w iland 2 b/c shes rlly young and could use this as a stepping stone for the future. she will def dominate the scene
lingling is so robbed, i agree that shes kinda invisible / doesnt find her own flair YET but mnet is literally cutting her already mediocre screentime even more thus further feeding into the notion that shes overhyped. of course people would say shes overhyped when mnet is literally giving her 0 screentime. yeah shes not on the main vocal / main dancer level yet but she has that captivating charm, something about her aura pulls me in.
also people complaining why she got so much support when shes the only SEA representative here. she can even speak chinese which will definitely help since there are no other chinese contestants. as of now she pulled her own weight, she did not ruin any parts. unless she does suck like voice cracks / obvious moves mistake, i will still place my support for her. definitely top 4 among all of the grounds.
I agree, it's like Bahiyyih in Kepler. She barely got screen time outside of the first episode, but because she got votes still everyone thought she was over hyped 😭 They don't know how her fans literally found any clip she was in and make compilations of her performing because Mnet refused to show her being friends with everyone😭
I agree, I am actually happy Lingling is getting support despite Mnet being shady and the lack of screen time. I think the group should have a member who speaks Chinese and I understand why people want her in the group. When the fan votes come in, I think she will get in 100 percent as long as she gets out of the ground 😭
Exactly
Kim Gyuri deserves more attention.. :(
She really does 😭 So does Yui
@@Tummyachesurvior yes:((
Finally someone who agrees
@RoyaleMusical I mean, she’s only 15 and a trainee for 6 months. She’s got PLENTY of time to grow and improve even more and debut (hopefully a little older than she is now…)
Team Baggy Jeans(my fav performance)
•Koko A (slayed and left no crumbs,her dance,rap was great and her stage presence very natural and catchy)
•Yui A (strong rapper,strong stage presence,strong dancer,she deserves more screen time,very solid performer)
•Yuju B (her stage presence is another level,strong rapper,her vocals were pretty good there was just some mistakes,overall she ate)
Why Choi Soul a D? She should be a B while Yuiko, Kim Eunchae should be D
Not yuiko.. she was the most stable there
soul always wink make her sp bad.
I would put Choi Soul as C or B because she made no mistakes and also originally made it into Iland, Eunchae shouldn’t be higher than her she made many vocal mistakes
Yeah agree
I actually liked Nam Yuju the best in her group. Not really a fan of Koko's voice but Yui was also really good I want them 2 to be the rapping duo of the debut group.
I really liked Nam Yuju too! I really liked Koko's voice personally b/c she's giving the fierce vibe the other contestants IMO don't have at all. I hope one/all of them make it!!
jeemin, ling ling and nam yuju win my heart
3:35 i thought that windows disconnect sound was me but i kept replaying it to make sure it wasn't LOL
LOOOOOL MY BAD
@@KPOPTrashLyrics ITS FINE LOL BUT I WAS SO CONFUSED I WAS LIKE "is that my keyboard..? no its still working ok is it my mouse? no that still works too"
Can you do Universe ticket one? Like with the 1:1 battle or with the revenge battle (concept performances)
Please vote jiyoon and jeemin please 😢😢
To be honest I was dissapointed on every performances...I don't know if it's because recent vocal scandals but none gave me the main vocal vibe at least... just Jeongeun and she's good at dancing and rapping too but not a main vocalist...
Also are people tone deaf? Why anybody is complaining about sound system? When Koko sang it was clear they used a kind of sound arrangement to each one trainee to make it sound better. Also happened sometime in R U Next (a bit dissapointing too) but I hope production don't use it anymore because ,don't trainees have to be talented?...
For real nam yuju c?!!
i rmbr when u gave minsol a D in the my tennage girl and now she improved to a B!!
YESSS I was surprised to see she was coming on this show and I was looking forward to see how she improved and she surely did
@@KPOPTrashLyrics SAMEE (my picks in my tennage girl were yoon seungju, lee youngchae, park boeun, kim riwon, kim hari, yoon chaewon and myung hyungseo) 😭😭💗
@@limzsoo ahh mine were chaewon, hyunhee, yunseo, hyungseo, mihee, inhye, boeun, seonyou
UMJI D😭??? She literally was so stable doing Yunjin's part and hit the high note omg what
Also for the cake performance u must've switched eunchae and soul or what?? Cause sould carried the performance😭
i don't want to get killed in twitter for this, i will assume this is a safe place. but the trainees are all so average! i was really dissappointed, there's no main vocal, most of these girls are performers. sorry you will not convince me jungeun is main vocal material, she's just the only one who can pull high notes and sound (kinda) stable while dancing.
tbh the only strong trainees are fuko, jeemin, yuju, yui, jungeun and jiyoon. the rest i just like them for their pretty faces
agreed like none of these girls can compete with any of the Produce series main vocals, even Girls/Boys planet or even MTG though. Jungeun couldn't even stand a chance against Son Jiwoo from RUNext.
Guess the vocal game in Kpop is getting weaker every year. Glad that NMIXX and ZB1 carried this era.
am I the only one thinking Yui was the best of the three ?
I think yui was the best
I really liked Yui!!! I think there was moments when she was in the centre that she seemed out of focus/not taking advantage of it. But Ik she'll do so well in the next stages
i would argue that soul is AT LEAST a C
Our opinions are really similar, you gave all my current picks A.
I'm just sad about Yui not making it cause she was the only competent rapper.
I'm sure someone like Koko can do rap lines but a proper rap verse? The group will have to go without.
Am sad too. I made sure to vote her everyday. I cried so much during the elimination i still feel bad.
I know.. I'm sad about Yui only because she was promising, but I think she lost support for her Final Love Song performance. But I really hoped she would have won over everyone with her IWALY performance. And I think Koko can def do the rap lines OR the group will just not be rap heavy.
Either way, I can see Koko, if she gets in, getting some more rap lines and training a bit more in that. Same with the other members.
@@KPOPTrashLyrics I just really hate when they force competent vocalists to do rap instead, but I do like some rap in my songs.
So I'd like for the group to have some members who aren't likely to get a vocal position and have some experience rapping - like Koko.
@@KPOPTrashLyricsYeah I missed Yui, she was my ult along with Lingling. And Nan Yuju is a better rapper than Koko so I see both of them being in a rap line in the girl group.
Putting Mai at C is hilarious i’m glad she proved y’all wrong💀
She didn't prove anyone wrong, she was still a C in this performance, but she improved the most
1. Junguen
2. Jeemin
3. Jiyoon
4. Koko
5. Sarang
6. Mai
7. Saebi
Choi soul is carrying the cake show
choi soul being chosen by the producers in episode 2 really shocked me cause i felt her vocals weren't that stable
Here are my contestants that get my 'ace member' benefit, based on which ones put in effort/which ones are underrated in my opinion. The 'ace member(s)' benefit keeps the specific trainees with that benefit from getting eliminated early, but it is only active for members who have a *D grade or any grade above that.*
Unforgiven (Le Sserafim) - Ryu Sarang (Ace Member)/Kim Minsol (underrated)
After Like (IVE) - Kim Gyuri & Fuko (Ace Members)/Kang Jiwon (underrated)
Sweet Venow (Enhyphen) - Kim Sujung & Jeong Saebi (Ace Members)/Lingling (Underrated)
Cake (Itzy) - Yuiko (Ace Member)/Choi Soul (Underrated)
Baggy Jeans (NCT U) - Koko (Ace Member)/Nam Yuju (Underrated)
Drama (Aespa) - Choi Jungeun & Bang Jeemin (Ace Members)/Mai (Underrated)
Ace Members:
Ryu Sarang (Unforgiven by Le Sserafim)
Kim Gyuri & Fuko (After Like by IVE)
Kim Sujung/Jeong Saebi (Sweet Venom by ENHYPHEN)
Yuiko (Cake by ITZY)
Koko (Baggy Jeans by NCT U)
Choi Jungeun & Bang Jeemin (Drama by Aespa)
Lets be real if its produce 101 we will only have 3 or 4 As
If this was using grading system like runext
Sarang - HIGH
Juwon - MID
Minsol - MID
Jiwon - LOW
Gyuri - HIGH
Fuko - HIGH
Chaeun - MID
Jiwon - LOW
Yeeun - LOW
Sujung - HIGH
Saebi - MID
Lingling - MID
Yuna - LOW
Yuiko - HIGH
Soul - MID
Eunchae - MID
Nana - LOW
Koko - HIGH
Yui - MID
Yuju - LOW
Jungeun - HIGH
Jeemin - HIGH
Jiyoon - MID
Mai - LOW
Agree
um jiwon definitely deserves B in unforgiven. maybe switch her with kim minsol. I don't think gyuri and koko should have been A either
some of these were very VERY generous rankings, I feel like a lot of the people that got A's didn't blend in seamlessly with the song so it felt highschool recital-y, lacking that wow factor I would say?
My top 7 Now
1.Fuko:Center, Lead Vocal, Leader
2.Bang Jeemin:Main Dancer, Rapper, FOTG
3.Nam Yuju:Main Rapper, Lead Dancer
4.Choi Jungeun:Main Vocal, Lead Dancer
5.Kim Sujung:Main Dancer, Lead Vocal
6.Mai:Lead Rapper, Lead Dancer, Visual
7.Kim Gyuru:Lead Vocal
As a follower of Produce 101 since season 1, it's quite difficult for someone to get into the A class because the judges have very high standards, so I think there are some who are not suitable to be in the A class.
I agree. I looked at the A trainees from S1 and im sorry but tjese trainees are no way close to the levels of sejeong, chungha, heo chanmi, etc.
Do Universe Ticket!!
um jiwon deserves better...
I would give Um Jiwon a B or C
And Soul a C
Soul was stable during cake
Edit: so sorry, what I meant to say was that Umjiwon didn’t sound bad during Unforgiven
This is mine
If anyone has questions or is curious please reply and I’ll explain my reasoning
A:
Ryu Sarang
Kim Gyuri
Fuko
Jeong Saebi
Koko
Choi Jungeun
B:
Son juwon
Kim Sujung
Yui
Nam Yuju
Bang Jeemin
Yoon Jiyoon
C:
Kim Minsol
Um Jiwon
LingLing
Kim Eunchae
D:
Kang Jiwon
Park Yeeun
Yuiko
Choi Soul
Mai
F:
Kim Chaeeun
Oh Yuna
Nana
CAN YOU DO UNIVERSE TICKET? NEXT WHEN THEY PERFORM REVENGE BATTLES❤❤
um jiwon shouldn’t be a D, just because she got two iland in’s doesn’t mean she should be a D because she did really good !
her singing was good but she underdanced a lot it didn't match the energy of the other girls
do universe ticket next!
Sould at D and Eunchae at C??? Help
I know you're grading the individual trainees to determine who stays in I-LAND and who goes to Ground, but you do need to look at how the trainees work together in their group unit, especially as you're saying you're a survival show enthusiast. As an example, GP999 Ice Cream, when Dayeon had the responsibility of choreographing that song, she managed to create transitions, formations, she did a highlight for herself whilst highlighting other girls and subunits. It was a masterpiece! But it was a group mission and came across as such. For Boys Planet, Kill This Love (G Group), each trainee killed their part but what made the performance was their interaction and how each part worked together. And going back to the original I-LAND Chamber 5, each trainee brought their distinct charm to the song, but the performance worked because they worked together. When I watched the audition stages, the only performance that showed a group performance was the Baggy Jeans unit and that was because they worked together. Granted, Koko was the best of the three but Yuju was not entirely horrible because they worked as a unit. Yui had obvious hip-hop training but lacked Koko's all rounder skills. Although you grade some of the trainees with an A, for example the Drama unit, I found that unit to be almost unwatchable as a group as they were borderline preening and that's not what I want to see. If you go back and watch the original aespa MV, wow, the power in their movements, there is purpose in how they interact with each other, how they interact with the camera, they don't have to preen, their presence is power. I understand these girls are trainees and don't yet know the meaning of being an idol but this is a learning moment.
Very true statement! Baggy Jeans team worked so well tgt and i think they had the best synergy out of all the groups! I think performance wise, they would be AAB or ABB but the judges seemed to not love yuju’s performance, especially as the judges are “performance directors”.
@@KPOPTrashLyrics ABC was a correct assessment for Baggy Jeans. Koko is a good all rounder; Yui is a better dancer than she is a vocalist; Yuju needs to pick up her feet and have more fluidity in her movements but the point was as you said the group synergy. All of the missions are group missions, the interactions are within a group setting. Son Sung Deuk/HYBE made a comment about knowing how to support the center when you’re not the center, the different energy it takes while still matching the group energy. You learn while doing that with your team. I hope the mentors impart that type of critical thinking to the trainees.
you should have given Mai B like jiyoon...
honestly i think all these grades are too generous. i don’t think i’d give anyone on this show higher than a B
Choi soul D?
Can u do for universe ticket ?pls
can you do universe ticket as produce series? just the grading hehe (not forcing) ❤️
mhm! i plan to, theres just a lot of contestants and they r all individual
can you do universe ticket?
Omg I watched you before!! I love how you grade honestly, By the way I’m curious if you are gonna make a universe ticket version? Not forcing!! Just curious
Thank you sm!! I love making these videos. I was actually in the process of making a UT video but its taking me a long time cuz theres sm contestants and they have individual videos compared to groups so yes… I will try my best!!!
@@KPOPTrashLyricsOmgsss can’t wait for that one! I wish you all the best for that video! 🩵🩵
i love how at 5:20 its abc😂
Where can I watch this complete??
Mnet RUclips. Search Iland 2 entrance tests
Can you please do a pd48 in your unpopular opinion?? There were lots of grades on the auditions that make me raise an eyebrow 😂 sooo pleeease 🥺🙏
Ooo this sounds like a good idea. I might have some trouble only bc I’ve based everything off of the whole produce series itself… Maybe I can do I-LAND cards for PD48 performances
Team Sweet Venom (Strong stage presence,but very disappointing vocals)
•Saebi B (her sp was insane,however she needs to improve her vocals)
•Sujung B (to be honest I was shocked that her voice is stable,however that’s not enough,her falsetto was very bad placed and poor quality)
•LingLing D(I think she deserves more screen time,she needs some improvements)
•Oh Yuna D (She has distinct face,however her facial expressions were awkward same as her vocals)
Team Cake(the most forgettable performance)
•Soul C (her facial expressions were good,but not her vocals)
•Eunchae D (same as Soul)
•Yuiko D (same as Soul and Eunchae,but her facial expressions weren’t very natural)
•Nana F (she needs to train more)
mai doesnt deserve a C for me
Plzzzzzz🤔🤧
u r too right
(Just adding to my comment as I watch, not hating on your picks😅💃🏽)
I would give Yuna a C and lingling a B, I think I really enjoyed everyone in Sweet Venom. I would give Soul a B instead of a D, I think she did better than everyone in her group. i would give Yuju a B and Yui an A. I totally agree with the other grades though
Yuna voice cracked
I agree with Yui Yuju and Lingling
NO NOT YUNA , because she ruined sweet venom and made it sour venom
Greetings from Southern California and the Western United States 🇺🇸! I saw some of the entrance performances by way of MNET on RUclips and I agree with the group performances or as I like to call it " Channel Your Inner ", in this case Enhyphen's ( I think I got the name right 😜 ) Sweet Venom, IVE's After Like and Itzy's Cake...the three groups needed work,ASAP! They sounded like After LIFE 😵💫...no ☠️...but darn close to it, BURNT Cake and SALTY Venom ( can you cure with that?!? ). This could be even tougher than the first I-LAND or Queendom Puzzle ( The Voice ain't got nothing on this, it's a doozy, especially when you have the top names of producing the best K-Pop South Korea have to offer to the world 🌎🌍... LITERALLY! ).... but I'll need rewatch some of the recap videos though just to be ( kindly ) safe. Keep us posted on the competition and we'll see who'll find paradise or perils on I-LAND 2 : N/A, competition REALLY does have no limits!
( A little shout out to Ultraman Zero, it's his 15th anniversary this year, kinda fits the description doesn't it ? 😄! )!
Umjiwon deserve atleast B. One of the good vocalist in the show.
Tenho pesadelos com a performance de Cake até hoje.
I think Yui would be A
Yuju B
Lingling C or B, I don’t think she did that bad but still not the best
Yuju merece una B
vote for sonjuwon plz❤
I want Mai (as Visual) Nam Yuju (as Main Rapper) and Choi Jungeun (as Main Vocalist) to debut
Jeemin should have and A?? I’m just asking because she is the only one with an unanimous IN out of that group
True, i think there are higher expectations of her and the show would give her a B to give her the villain arc
Nah I think b is good for her in my opinion
why um jiwon is D? she's doing great vocal and dance also facial expressions she is good
at least u need to put her in C if this about that iland ticket, but personally seh would he an B at least lmao
this is totally favoritism
@@한지평-z7iyeah
How is Mai a C? Id give her an A if Koko got one
Mai’s voice was very nasally and i felt it brought down the group’s overall performance. Shes great now but not here
Jeemin would definitely get A
Why give Yuju a C? Because the judges put her in Ground or because that's your opinion?
Wanted to give B but judges put her in ground so C
jeemin❤❤❤❤❤❤
way too many A's to be accurate and no where near enough F's. The fact that A had the most is wild. Like I think the contestants are good but that is not what Produce cared about
in today’s standards, these are mostly considered A level trainees, but in 2015, i doubt it, if they did these performances on produce 101, i think probably half of these people to earn a “D.” in produce 101.
why mai is c atleast she b
Unbiased listener here....for drama Mai is definitely F same with Jeemin, Jiyoon is the best person in drama she should get an A and Jungeun get a B because she sounded very nasal there. I have learnt you are very lenient in these rankings as you rank them as A when they have pitchiness.
Soul must be at least at B or A
letting 3 girls from cake unit is legendary😂😂😂
they let 3 girls in and not letting yuju??😴😴
They got sent down to ground
So yuiko has tattoos now?
Um jiwon C
Yess
Mai B
My changes
Mai B
Jeemin A
Yuju B
Yui A
Gyuri B
Kang Jiwon F
Um Jiwon B or C
Choi Soul B or C
Kim Eunchae D
Yuiko B
How can jeemin B while gyuri and saebi A😂
Mai must be a B dapat nga din all I sya maganda namn boses nya and her performance she slay it my opinion lang din🤞
Mai deserves B!! I don’t understand why people think that just because she sings nasally, it sounds bad?? It literally doesn’t.
her voice is so annoying
choi soul was the best in the cake team...shouldve been B or C
all baggy jeans need to be an A actually, but bcs that one yuju fault she is an B
u take juwon to A but not jeemin wth
Um Jiwon deserves better
Imo
Team Unforgivem
•Sarang B(strong sp,stable vocals,but I don’t think that her vocals and dance are A)
•Juwon B(same as Sarang,but Sarang’s voice was a little more stable)
•Minsol B(strong facial expressions,again vocals are not A)
•Jiwon C(Imo her vocals were more solid than others,but she was nervous and her facial expressions weren’t that catchy)
Team After Like(very forgettable performance)
•Fuko A (her facial expressions,vocals were very good)
•Kim Gyuri C (her voice is stable and she’s very cute,but her facial expressions aren’t that good)
•Park Yeeun D (She tried to do her best with facial expressions,but it was a little bit awkward,she’s very charming,but her vocals need some training)
•Kim Chaeeun D (Poor vocals,poor facials and very forgettable performer)
•Kahn Jiwon D (Her facial expressions🗿,she hadn’t even tried)
For Unforgiven, I agree, I think my A's may have been a bit generous. I kinda saw them as "first group to go usually gets nicer evaluations". The judges seemed to like Sarang and Juwon. But compared to others, they would be B. I think I would change that tbh. How I saw it too was like "put them in A and see how they stand" kinda vibe
nah imo sarang deserved an A, same as gyuri but park yeeun would be an F imo and i agree sm w jiwon, her vocals were more stable than others
everyone has opinions. but i dont think chaeeun and um jiwon are comparable as its obvious i believe that um jiwon is a lot better than her
as notas da BAGGY JEANS UNIT foram muita palhaçada
Wtf con Jiwon..merece una A o en fin B
Agreed
In my opinion yeeun is much better than Chaeeun, yeeun has improved alot
WHY LINGING????
WDYM
What do you expect?
don't comment it here. They don't support Lingling. They support someone else.
@@Livingstonroad_1Who? Me or Mnet? I actually like lingling. i gave her a C but could have easily given her an D/F based on judges. I think she deserved more I tickets than shown on the show. She did well in her performance
Not you, I mean someone who doesnt like Lingling.
Team Drama (Avengers team)
To be honest I expected more!!!
•Jungeun A (deserved her 1st place,her dance,stage presence and vocals are amazing,she slayed)
•Jeemin B (queen,she slayed,her facial expressions were incredible,however I expected more vocals)
•Mai B (very captivating performer,her rap was really good and her stage presence was really good)
•Jiyoon C (very stylistic vocalist and some moments were poor connected)
I expected more for an "Avengers" team as well. With Mai, I think she has so much potential, her voice for me was just very scratchy and changed the vibe of the song. Her dance is very good like did u see that high kick????
Jiyoon - yes - I know what you mean. I think her voice didn't fit for some lines, but she's one of the more promising vocals than what we saw so far. But I think a C is a fair grade for her too despite her being a "good vocalist".
their tones didn’t really suit the song
@@yumethyst i could see them doing unforgiven or even a blackpink song like hylt
@@KPOPTrashLyricsyesss omds esp jungeun. she fits the dark/girl crush concept so much. i hope they don’t ruin this group and give them an ass concept
jiyoon - c???? lol. no comments
jeemin B and mai C?? what
Jeemin wasnt showing her full potential
Mai sounded screechy
@@KPOPTrashLyrics the rap in drama is meant to be really jarring , yeah shes nasally but it doesnt mean shes bad
ジミンはさすがにA
ほかのunforgivenとかのAよりはさすがに上
Wad Park Yeeun that bad? I know she wasn’t as good as Fuko and Gyuri, and she was slightly off her position during the dance, but I think she still did better than Nana overall. I would give her a D.
I gave a an F because she didn’t match up to many of the other contestants. She showed she needs some foundational work based on her mistakes. F isn’t bad, it just means she needs to work on her basics to improve
choi soul is B/C