I was thinking the exact same thing when i was watching this set live but then he'd get hit like twice and die like 30% earlier. Kinda sad cuz sheik is so fun to watch
@@Dimadome12 she doesn't necessarily "struggle to kill" , her kill confirms are just hard to execute. She actually has a lot of kill confirms and di mixups. There's just a very high skill threshold.
@@Dimadome12 no no. *she* doesn't struggle to kill, the player struggles to kill, but they only struggle if they're not good enough with the character. void has no problem killing. yeah, his opponent might be at 180+ but he's constantly winning neutral exchanges and putting his opponent in edgeguard scenarios.
Tbh this Sheik, now in the state she is, she seems like the most badass and fun version to play. Congrats to my man, Void, he deserves all of this for all the hard work, you need to really love your character to put it at this insane level. Also, Sheik buffs, Grenade is awesome now, needles are godlike, and optimizing those drag-down up-airs is the way to go. p.d: You can make perfectly fine a combo video of this match, Sheik combos galore
I think the consensus is she needs a weight buff and maybe a buff to bair or ftilt. That would make her much more consistent and balanced. Maybe actually see some sheik players come back, cuz I think she is top 3 at least in characters viewers actually want to see in a match.
@@forklesspizza6228 Yeah, you are totally right, her damage is fine, she just blows up people with her attacks thanks to her frame data and tools, also the speed. As we can see in this tournament Void played almost perfectly but because Sheik's weight any error he committed was fatal, 110% and Sheik is dead because how light she is. 110% is a kill percent but some characters can survive past this much better than Sheik.
@Baked keep in mind sheik is a hard counter to rob... also sheik weighs less than kirby. she definitely needs weight, randomly dying at 30-50 at ledge is not okay for how big of a character/hurtbox she is
Everyone talking about how clutch Void is and I'm here just thinking about how smoothly Zackray threw his controller on the table into a handshake 15:30
Void is proving not only that Sheik is better than people thought(Including me), but also proving how capable he is as a player. Passion and patience really does go hand in hand in whatever you want to get good at.
@@shilohschwartz8671 lmao you probably can't even combo bowser as sheik. Getting combos right takes more practice than you think. Oh wait, you can't think. You lack a brain
@@shilohschwartz8671 Is that the only combo you can do? To actually be good at the character you have to learn countless strings, combos, and kill confirms. But honestly it's pointless arguing with you since you probably wouldn't even know.
@@L7U yeah, but it is still a bit strange sometimes that an up-smash hits so far behind, above, in front, and down by their feet. isn't the only case of attacks with weird amounts of range for the direction the move is, but it is weird how some of these moves still exist when nintendo removed a bunch of the weirdly-directioned hitboxes from smash 4.
G&W’s up smash covers to the floor. The big downside to sheik is that a lot of her attacks aren’t very disjointed, so she ends up trading a lot with certain attacks, which is what happened here
@@icecoldnut5152 why? its not broken like gnw, i dont think. quite the opposite actually, it covers only the upper part of CF. i think what Bini was saying is that there are many smash attack that cover notonly the direction you press, but almost all sides of the character
Sheik ia the coolest mid tier because when you play well, she looks like the most oppressive character in the game and you destroy your opponent, but if you mess up at all you get destroyed just as hard. Props to void for making her work
as an athlete, i appreciate emotion in smash. this "little salt" was just proof that he cares. he stayed composed and simply showed how much he wanted to win. i love it
Dang. Sounds like you have to be genuinely glad you lost to not be salty these days. For real though salty is when you're focussing on the negative, edging on bitter and fixating on something. Has a childish connotation, often blowing that something out of proportion a little, but less explosively than raging. It's most similar to being tilted, but being tilted has connotations of spite and revenge more than with being bitter and petty, and often it's something legitimately "tilting" (annoying) that makes someone tilted compared to being salty. I know that getting the whole internet on the same page about slang is a pipe dream, but what else am I going to do, sleep?
commentators: “I believe you can reflect needles but it’s gonna take some *precision*” g&w reflector: permanent press and hold bucket press and hold easiest reflect in the game = *precision*
I wish we'd see Void's Pichu more often. He'd be a great counter pick to ROB. Especially in Void's hands. Edit: Never mind. Watched the rest of the set. Turns out Shiek is a suitable counter pick.
I respect void so much soley cause sheik is a character that takes a high level of skill and you have to work insanely hard to get the kill while avoiding ur death from as early as 50%. He literally plays sheik jus cause she’s cool. It’s not about the car u drive but the driver in the seat
I wonder if Zackray just couldn't match Void's speed. In terms of skill and power they seem equally matched but after following Zackray's pools, it's clear he still has that "japanese playstyle(tm)" that Void is rushing down
As a Sheik main, U don’t fucking know how happy I am 😭😭 though I’m not a solo sheik and I also have Fox in my pocket I mainly use Sheik and hell yes finally 😭😭
aight fuqqit I'm just gonna gush about void rn this nigga went on record saying he likes combo heavy characters, he wants to make a good read, punish the shit out of whiffs and 0-death you every stock, NO cheese, NO match-up bullshit. pre-nerfd pichu was godlike, the joker is acceptable but goddamnit the sheik has always looked so nice. honest but downright oppressive. finally got a couple choice buffs that don't directly fix sheiks "problems" (sHeiK CAn't kiLL), but max out her strengths to make her undeniably mid-high tier. ontop of that dude is quiet, smart, funny and not an asshole. makes me proud to a so-cal sheik mane, it'd be lit to be friends but I'd settle for watching him kick ass at super majors any day.
I like that Void chooses to play characters, that when played perfectly, look unstoppable.
So like every character in this game?
Lol well put that’s so true he’s insane, I love it
I was thinking the exact same thing when i was watching this set live but then he'd get hit like twice and die like 30% earlier. Kinda sad cuz sheik is so fun to watch
@@bigmanluke8266 lol no
I know what you’re saying but like if any character is played perfectly they can’t lose, just something to think about
That last stock was the sexiest stock I've ever seen.
what does it mean?
ancient mystery
Just like your pfp 😉😉😉😉
That's because you have not seen this stock.
ruclips.net/video/q0rzU2ffBcs/видео.htmlm58s
@@collinb3371 Shit that first stock don’t exist
8:42 Zackray’s eternal nightmare
Yes, he still should be having nightmares about drag down up-airs to up smash on that left platform on PS2
The platform is a nightmare, Joker and Sheik combos up air is a nightmare and up smash to finished it off making Zackray's nightmare
Leo killed Zachrays Rob exactly the same way, he was extremely close to beating him but leo just got him killed him this same way and place.
Destroyer of dreams, shatterer of hopes, drag down up smash.
The way Zackray threw the controller on the table was mood.
Looked more dejectded to me. I mean hes japans rank 1 and lost in top 96.
Lamb Hes not. Hes #2 in Japan. Shuton is #1. Its crazy how many people think that though. lol
Duke in the most recent japan pgr zackray is ranked #1 in japan and shuton is #4
@@sharsasuke01 for season 2 of Japan's PGR hes number 1
Oh shit, didn't realise that. Though Shuton started out this season with a Evo win so he'll probably retake #1.
"Did they buff Shiek recently?"
"Yeah something about Down Smash"
oh boy they not reading the patch notes! NEEDLES NEEDLES NEEDLES
I’m actually so surprised they didnt know sheiks character design is basically needles
While I LOVE Shiek's frame data on her normal moves, I hate that she's such a technical character to play & struggles to kill
@@Dimadome12 she doesn't necessarily "struggle to kill" , her kill confirms are just hard to execute. She actually has a lot of kill confirms and di mixups. There's just a very high skill threshold.
@@wroogny
Thus she struggles to kill
@@Dimadome12 no no. *she* doesn't struggle to kill, the player struggles to kill, but they only struggle if they're not good enough with the character. void has no problem killing. yeah, his opponent might be at 180+ but he's constantly winning neutral exchanges and putting his opponent in edgeguard scenarios.
Tbh this Sheik, now in the state she is, she seems like the most badass and fun version to play. Congrats to my man, Void, he deserves all of this for all the hard work, you need to really love your character to put it at this insane level. Also, Sheik buffs, Grenade is awesome now, needles are godlike, and optimizing those drag-down up-airs is the way to go.
p.d: You can make perfectly fine a combo video of this match, Sheik combos galore
*sad smash 4 and melee sheik noises*
I think the consensus is she needs a weight buff and maybe a buff to bair or ftilt. That would make her much more consistent and balanced. Maybe actually see some sheik players come back, cuz I think she is top 3 at least in characters viewers actually want to see in a match.
@@Cs-kz1oq Agree, the weight buff is necessary, bair and ftilt would be cool too but not that mandatory. Weight buff and we full ready to go.
@@forklesspizza6228 Yeah, you are totally right, her damage is fine, she just blows up people with her attacks thanks to her frame data and tools, also the speed.
As we can see in this tournament Void played almost perfectly but because Sheik's weight any error he committed was fatal, 110% and Sheik is dead because how light she is. 110% is a kill percent but some characters can survive past this much better than Sheik.
@Baked keep in mind sheik is a hard counter to rob... also sheik weighs less than kirby. she definitely needs weight, randomly dying at 30-50 at ledge is not okay for how big of a character/hurtbox she is
Everyone talking about how clutch Void is and I'm here just thinking about how smoothly Zackray threw his controller on the table into a handshake 15:30
I like how void will have the most blank face and then pop off outta nowhere
as a sheik player he can never expect a move to actually kill, even if it's an fsmash at the edge of the stage at 91% and there's a zoom-in
@@bokocop5725 This is so accurate damn
Void is my favorite player to watch. Love to see him get this w.
シークの強化パッチを食い止めてんのってVOIDじゃねえのか？？？？？？？？
Damn genesis 6 vibes. Except wolf and pichu look different.
My boy VoiD turning up with Sheik
Void is proving not only that Sheik is better than people thought(Including me), but also proving how capable he is as a player.
Passion and patience really does go hand in hand in whatever you want to get good at.
Bitch please be combod one of the biggest characters in the fame. Not an accomplishment
@@shilohschwartz8671 Ah yes, beating Japan's #1 player is not an accomplishment because rOb iS bIG cHaRActEr
@@shilohschwartz8671 lmao you probably can't even combo bowser as sheik. Getting combos right takes more practice than you think.
Oh wait, you can't think. You lack a brain
@@danielshi9500 down throw up air up air up air. wow so hard
@@shilohschwartz8671 Is that the only combo you can do? To actually be good at the character you have to learn countless strings, combos, and kill confirms. But honestly it's pointless arguing with you since you probably wouldn't even know.
I never realized how much I missed the commentary at majors until I went weeks without hearing it
Im pretty sure game nd watchs helmet is one of those old school deep diving 1s
I come back to this set often to rewatch and learn Void's masterclass on Sheik
VOIDこのまま突っ走ってほしい
Void is still in winners
when Marss, Sam, and Leo are in losers
Edit: Sooooo Ummmmm......
And Gluttony
And light
IK guys
And Zackray 🤷🏻♂️
You do realize leo puts himself in losers on purpose right?
When did Sheik switch from playing VoiD to VoiD playing Sheik?
Yeah, i came here for Sheik’s VoiD gameplay but i was pretty disappointed... wish Sheik would go back to solo maining VoiD
Pichu's better at VoiD
1:20 bruh wtf is this range
if you go frame by frame, you can see shiek using down tilt. that's how gnw hit her
@@L7U yeah, but it is still a bit strange sometimes that an up-smash hits so far behind, above, in front, and down by their feet. isn't the only case of attacks with weird amounts of range for the direction the move is, but it is weird how some of these moves still exist when nintendo removed a bunch of the weirdly-directioned hitboxes from smash 4.
G&W’s up smash covers to the floor. The big downside to sheik is that a lot of her attacks aren’t very disjointed, so she ends up trading a lot with certain attacks, which is what happened here
Bini if you want a weird up smash take a look at cpt falcon
@@icecoldnut5152 why? its not broken like gnw, i dont think.
quite the opposite actually, it covers only the upper part of CF.
i think what Bini was saying is that there are many smash attack that cover notonly the direction you press, but almost all sides of the character
I know I'm 4 years late, but G&W up smash is an old fashioned diving helmet
シークの撃墜コンボ増えてプレッシャーはんぱないわ
15:30 - Yeah, Zackray wasn't too happy about how that turned out. VoiD's conversion ability is godlike.
AlphaJ4769 buff Rob
@@jemarshaw4986 no lol
@@jemarshaw4986 i mean, he doesn't need a lot of buffs but k.
@@jemarshaw4986 R.O.B is perfectly balanced
Jemar Shaw bruh, Rob is top tier, strong high tier at worst.
8:30 Keitaro's Heath Ledger Joker impression 🔥
Void かっこよすぎ
Sheik ia the coolest mid tier because when you play well, she looks like the most oppressive character in the game and you destroy your opponent, but if you mess up at all you get destroyed just as hard. Props to void for making her work
10:47 As a ROB main, that absolutely blew my mind.
Let’s go Void this entire match was sick
Man Im so excited to see Void's Sheik come into tournaments now.
The 1st stock of game 3 reminded me how much I missed Voids Sheik since Sm4sh. 8:16
How can I love the combos and feel bad for Zackray at the same time?
Damn, VoiD is on fire! Hope he gets far this tournament. Ando zackray with the little salt at the end was the best
Ikr, Zackray always seems salty when he takes an L. I guess with how young he is he carries that sorta mentality
For lightly throwing his controller to offer a handshake after a demoralizing loss? You haven't seen actual salt if that's your definition.
Average Joe It’s definitely salt when you consider how nice and polite the Japanese usually are
as an athlete, i appreciate emotion in smash. this "little salt" was just proof that he cares. he stayed composed and simply showed how much he wanted to win. i love it
Dang. Sounds like you have to be genuinely glad you lost to not be salty these days.
For real though salty is when you're focussing on the negative, edging on bitter and fixating on something. Has a childish connotation, often blowing that something out of proportion a little, but less explosively than raging.
It's most similar to being tilted, but being tilted has connotations of spite and revenge more than with being bitter and petty, and often it's something legitimately "tilting" (annoying) that makes someone tilted compared to being salty.
I know that getting the whole internet on the same page about slang is a pipe dream, but what else am I going to do, sleep?
Remember when tournaments where actually cool and hype and not on nintendo’s shitty online? Man I miss life before the virus
We all do
When sheik lives longer than 67%: *impossible*
It' a deep sea diving helmet. You know, the really heavy one. Astronaut upsmash lol
OMG VOID MY BOY
Zack in disadvantage
0:27, 0:30, 0:34, 0:38, 0:40, 0:44, 0:58, 1:18, 1:24, 1:27, 1:41, 1:53, 1:55, 2:08, 2:15, 2:23, 2:31, 2:54, 2:57, 3:12, 3:29, 3:37, 3:40, 3:50, 4:08
I’m so glad I was live for that last stock
This is probably my favorite set of all time. Void and Sheik were shmovin!
6:00 “whachu doin’ Terry”
Dead ☠️
commentators: “I believe you can reflect needles but it’s gonna take some *precision*”
g&w reflector: permanent press and hold bucket
press and hold easiest reflect in the game = *precision*
In airquotes
Memes aside of Sheik, that was insane o.o
how tf is this set top 96? how stacked is thiis tournament?
Void was seeded in the mid-40's since his results haven't been as strong recently. Super excited to see him do well again
there was 35 out of 50 PGR players
faxxxxx
Protokille the hell are you doing here proto
@@phazetbh552 I follow competitive smash lol cause I play the game
I wish we'd see Void's Pichu more often. He'd be a great counter pick to ROB. Especially in Void's hands.
Edit: Never mind. Watched the rest of the set. Turns out Shiek is a suitable counter pick.
This match feels like an anime fight
Damn, Void is doing awesome with his Sheik.
the way the man throws his controller is even smooth
Who else thinks Void vs Marss would be siiiiiiickkkkkkk?
VoiD: can I save the replays? I need it for a combo video.
Nah the commentary plus superb sheik was jokes 👌🏽 well done
I respect void so much soley cause sheik is a character that takes a high level of skill and you have to work insanely hard to get the kill while avoiding ur death from as early as 50%. He literally plays sheik jus cause she’s cool. It’s not about the car u drive but the driver in the seat
The combo game on both of these guys is god like
the drag down up airs are giving flashbacks to zackrays lost to mkleo at ssc
10:04 44 to 95 just from ledge trapping
This sort of stuff is why I tried Sheik for a bit as my main in Smash 4
Pretty sure that Void is still a top 10 player
Had not expected that height difference at the very end
9:10 top play
Voidのシーク強いな、特にロボットとか相手だとなおさら
the Zero video about this match in the suggestions spoiled the match for me right from the start XD
Was that thin black outline on the grey GnW alt always there, or did they stealth patch it in?
SHEIK IS BACK ON THE MAP
コントローラー前投げ草
Can I mute the Commentary?
sheik is back booois! we made it!
That 2 last stock really aggresive😮
sheik vs joker would be fun to watch...
10:23 Can we talk about that crazy parries from Zackray, god he is so amazing he just blow my mind and giving me a headache every time he does that
If you parry the first one it’ll flash the parry animation for the rest for you lol
素晴らしい3タテ
1:18あたるんだ！
まるまる シークが下強攻撃してるのでその足に当たってますね。スローで見ればわかりやすいです。
もりぃ なるほどですね。ありがとございます~
Zackray chooses the white/black color for stages like this one or lylat?
I dont think ive ever seen a character thats both big brain and small brain at the same time as G&W
I wonder if Zackray just couldn't match Void's speed. In terms of skill and power they seem equally matched but after following Zackray's pools, it's clear he still has that "japanese playstyle(tm)" that Void is rushing down
コントローラー前投げのコメが気になって見てみたら、予想と違った
シーク使いの希望すぎる
日本の恥ザクレイくんまたやらかしてて草
VOIDさんのシークがうますぎる
自分はこんな事出来ないのに言ったらダメですよ
そうですね。自分にはあんな態度できません。同じ土俵に立つところでした。ご指摘ありがとうございました。
Kティロ いえいえ
ザクレイの動画見てるとコメ欄で日本の恥とか言ってる人それなりにいますけど、そんな気になりますか？
自分と関わることない人の性格なんてどうでもいいしプレイだけ見てればよくないですか？それに日本の恥とかは絶対言えないっすね、自分が正しい行動だけできてる自信がないんで。人にそんなこと言える人間の自信がないんで。
素人 流石に気になってしまいます。日本を背負ってやってるのに態度悪かったら流石に嫌でしょ。
Damn, all the effort he put into sheik, he could’ve put that into a top tier.
I wonder what kinda nice substance those pros do have in those half full bottles. Keepo
Am I trippin or is zacks headphones backwards
VOID BOYS ARE BACK
7:30 look at Zackray the poor guy is is really stressed I think that 3-stock calm him down.
ザク信者態度の悪さ指摘すると高校生だから多めに見ろとかよく言い訳するけど高校生から大人になるまでの間に人間の性格なんてそう簡単に変わるもんじゃないし本人が意識しない限り永遠に治らんと思う
疑問なんですけど、やっぱりプロだから態度良くないといけないんですかね？
個人的には上手くて面白い試合してくれればいいと思ってます
K O プロは企業からスポンサーを受けてお金をもらってるから、態度とか悪くてそれが目立ってしまったら企業の印象とかも悪くなるのかもしれないからじゃないですかね？よく知らんけど。あと見てていい気分にはならないし。
やっぱりプロとして、お金もらってたりeスポーツという名のもとにやっているのであれば態度だったり相手へのリスペクトは大事だと思います。
例えばラクビーだったりサッカーだったり負けた後に態度悪ければ批判はされますしね。お金をもらい観てもらう立場にある限り、負けても気持ちの良い終わり方ができるとeスポーツももっと評価される気がします。長文失礼しました。
@@ヤマツカミ-r9q あなた他の動画のコメ欄で荒らし？として紹介されてた気がする
とある卓球選手 紹介（笑）
ガイジ信者が本当のこと言われて勝手に荒らし認定してるだけやろ＾＾
Void is our boy!
Why is this thumbnail the only one with a white font??
13:47 Does anyone know how to throw the grenade so far off stage as Sheik?
WalkinHorror just hold b
@@trashcant4678 thanks!
I looked at the characters and I already know VoiD won
I really want to VoiD to want this tourney he really deserves it
NO SPOILER PLEASE I DON'T WATCH THE LIVESTREAM
What is it that they say to each other in between matches??
Discussing stage picks
Reason zackray even lost to voids sheik . He wasn’t camping and abusing nair . Shien literally can’t do anything to nair
1:19 What the hell??
In my opinion I don't get why zackray doesn't play rob more
Sheik's void is insane
As a Sheik main, U don’t fucking know how happy I am 😭😭 though I’m not a solo sheik and I also have Fox in my pocket I mainly use Sheik and hell yes finally 😭😭
zackrays rob is my fov player and character in the smash tourny
Holy fuck! I love this!
aight fuqqit I'm just gonna gush about void rn
this nigga went on record saying he likes combo heavy characters, he wants to make a good read, punish the shit out of whiffs and 0-death you every stock, NO cheese, NO match-up bullshit. pre-nerfd pichu was godlike, the joker is acceptable but goddamnit the sheik has always looked so nice. honest but downright oppressive. finally got a couple choice buffs that don't directly fix sheiks "problems" (sHeiK CAn't kiLL), but max out her strengths to make her undeniably mid-high tier. ontop of that dude is quiet, smart, funny and not an asshole.
makes me proud to a so-cal sheik mane, it'd be lit to be friends but I'd settle for watching him kick ass at super majors any day.
Oh my goodness vids sheik just manhandled zackrays rob last stock game 4
VoiD’s Sheik is SO good
15:30 ザクレイむちゃくちゃあったまってて草
この前のevojapanのシュルクの盾批判といい負けたとき態度の悪さなんとかならんの？
最近失礼な感じあるよね
ザクレイも糞だがこういうダメな部分すら意味不明な擁護をする信者のキモいことキモいこと
子供やからな、、👶
クソガキだから許したれや
プロの仕事にも就いてるし子供だからって擁護するのは違うと思う
8:19 the best sheik combo for me
Bruh how old is zachray? He looks so young.