Lovely set of clips of my home area brings back memories for an Ormskirk lad and the trips to Preston, Liverpool and Southport by steam train. Between 1962 and 1964 the 7pm was a spotters must as it was often a duchess or a princess with just 4 coaches from a split train in Preston.
Hi my name is Phil I did 50yrs on the footplate 8yrs on steam i started at edgeley shed on the 4th of April 1961 in 1962 I was made a fireman at Trafford Park shed I finished my time out at longsight as a driver in 2011 Regards Phil.
Despite not being born in this era (somehow!) my mind is blown that I've finally found footage of a steam locomotive at my local station of Orrell! Thank you so much for this hidden gem!
As a lad growing up in Ormskirk I used to traverse many of those fields alongside the Preston line with my mates. There used to be an abandoned farmhouse we would go and explore. Seems like a lifetime ago in 2021. Come to think of it… it is!
Some of those engines looked on their last legs ready for scrapping. They would probably be disposed of at Draper's in Hull or Cashmore's yard at Great Bridge.
My grandfather (seldom met) was a driver based at Meols Cop (Crossens?) . I think he retired about 1955 maybe earlier,so he was around during war years.I met once or twice and he was typical driver, pipe in hand and as I recall and dressed in black waistcoat.I now appreciate how skilled the drivers were.The airline pilots of their day.
Really nice to see Orrell and Up Holland stations. Also look at the members of the public all over the line during the closing sequence. Imagine that today!!
The video is taken from B&R video Productions Lancashire & Yorkshire memories Part 5. The Narrator is Colin White and videos are from various sources including Colin. It's definitely worth getting hold of copy of the full video.
Michael Lloyd thanks for that info, I will look out for a copy of the full video. This was passed to me several years ago as it had a clip of Burscough (were I live) but unfortunately no other info came with it.
We love on the ainscough Mill Estate, and to see the steam trains flying past where our house is, and what the station looked like was amazing thank you
Hi Dave, I you are on Facebook, search out my local history groups ‘Images of Burscough and Surrounding Areas’ lots of old photos of Burscough Junction Railway Station
Thank you for posting this great historical footage. I have really enjoyed watching. The commentary is informative but never intrusive. The slipping of the 5 at roughly 9 1/2 minutes was particularly severe; it sounded like a machine gun! Yet as soon as he controlled it the driver gave it full reg again.
There is a slight error at 17.23, the Liverpool to Glasgow train isn't heading towards Kirkdale it's already past it, those are the tunnels between Hawthorne Road, Brewster Street, Hale Road and Breeze hill just past Kirkdale Station, I'd guess it was filmed from the end of the platform or just past the Hawthorne road bridge. As a child we used to catch the Liverpool to Glasgow train regularly to visit relatives in Kelvinside in Glasgow. I remember my mum used to complain about having to travel into Liverpool Exchange Station from Kirkdale to catch the train as it didn't stop at Kirkdale. These days I travel from Liverpool Central (northern line) with changes at Ormskirk and Preston, the travel time is pretty much the same as when it was a direct service by steam it's also about an hour quicker than going from the main line station Liverpool Lime Street.
nostalgic memories of my trainspotting days in the1960s at Wigan Wallgate and North Western. What video was this taken from? and is it still available as I would love to get hold of a copy
If you're talking about the idiots standing on the rails around 22:35, they were called trespassers even then. There's nothing "sadly" about it: it's perfectly possible to watch trains from the right side of the fence, without putting your life at risk.
Quite common in the North West circa 1966/67/68. The new BR corporate Blue was being pushed out more quickly and some of the old steamers were a bit slow in being withdrawn, hence the unusual sight of steam and BR blue, plus BR MKII carriages! These would have been dual air braked/vacuum for older loco's. One or two Duchess pacifics used to work through to Liverpool Exchange, stopping at Ormskirk. Diesels took over for a few years until Exchange closed and all Scotch services were routed to Lime Street.
Huh that's pretty interesting I never knew the timelines on that sorta thing, I was honestly always under the impression that the BR Blue rebranding happened a little after the Steam era came to a close, thanks for the insight
As a 10 year old child I remember seeing a steam loco pulling British Rail blue coaches through Edge Hill in the spring of 1968, three months before the end of BR steam.
Imagine how useful either reinstating the Burscough curves would be or closing both Burscough stations and building a new station called Burscough interchange where both lines cross. I’m far too imaginative! EDIT: Mind you, you could walk it in 5 minutes, to do it by train now would take hours, it’s ridiculous.
It always surprises me how much wheelslip there is in these films of working steam locomotives. I can see how you'd slip the wheels when starting a heavy train, for example, but look at 0:13 -- light engine, moving slowly, no need to accelerate hard. Why slip the wheels there? Is that bad driving or am I just underestimating the difficulty and being overly critical?
beeble2003: Yes, I totally agree. Far too much. I suspect the wheelslip is done purposely, for effect for the camera, when they know they are being filmed. But of course, I'm only guessing here. ;-)
Some nice footage there. Being picky, the pronunciation of Burscough is wrong. It's not 'Burscoff' or 'Burscow' but 'Burscuh'. The state of some of the locos gives a good indication of the excessive loads they were being asked to haul and the dreadful maintenance current in BR at the time......organised sabotage!
10:10... Lucky they made Exchange.!😲!. Eh.!😂!. Nearly all over the tracks.!🤬!. AND... This was the SECOND TIME it'd happened.!🙄! You'd have thought that he'd have learned from the earlier, shorter 'outburst'.!😂! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Lovely set of clips of my home area brings back memories for an Ormskirk lad and the trips to Preston, Liverpool and Southport by steam train. Between 1962 and 1964 the 7pm was a spotters must as it was often a duchess or a princess with just 4 coaches from a split train in Preston.
Thanks Micheal,remember them well ,that when Longton had a bridge crossing the A59 near my house. Wonderful times❤
Hi my name is Phil I did 50yrs on the footplate 8yrs on steam i started at edgeley shed on the 4th of April 1961 in 1962 I was made a fireman at Trafford Park shed I finished my time out at longsight as a driver in 2011 Regards Phil.
jacco nouwen (28-12-1968)
Absolutely amazing video.superb collection of lines lost,stations gone,steam locomotives.
BRILLIANT THANKS FOR SHARING
Great old films v well narrated. Thanks for posting
Superb footage of our magnificent steam era, never to be forgotten!
Despite not being born in this era (somehow!) my mind is blown that I've finally found footage of a steam locomotive at my local station of Orrell! Thank you so much for this hidden gem!
Super film and memories of steam, especially how relatively recently it ceased. Thanks for the upload.
This is the best local footage I've ever seen. Excellent upload.
As a lad growing up in Ormskirk I used to traverse many of those fields alongside the Preston line with my mates. There used to be an abandoned farmhouse we would go and explore. Seems like a lifetime ago in 2021. Come to think of it… it is!
Some of those engines looked on their last legs ready for scrapping. They would probably be disposed of at Draper's in Hull or Cashmore's yard at Great Bridge.
This brings me back to my days when I saw the end steam and the end of stations and some lines. Very enjoyable.
Brilliant. I travelled often on these lines & the video brings back so many memories of spotting & photographing.
My grandfather (seldom met) was a driver based at Meols Cop (Crossens?) . I think he retired about 1955 maybe earlier,so he was around during war years.I met once or twice and he was typical driver, pipe in hand and as I recall and dressed in black waistcoat.I now appreciate how skilled the drivers were.The airline pilots of their day.
Really nice to see Orrell and Up Holland stations. Also look at the members of the public all over the line during the closing sequence. Imagine that today!!
Brilliant footage. Brings back good memories. Thanks for posting.
Magical footage of my old stomping ground. Brilliant.
Like seeing those steamers in action, very interesting they were in use right up to 1968, even on passenger service.
Many many thanks for uploading this gem!
flippop101 j
Incredible stock and steam🚂
Brilliant! Thanks for uploading.
The video is taken from B&R video Productions Lancashire & Yorkshire memories Part 5. The Narrator is Colin White and videos are from various sources including Colin. It's definitely worth getting hold of copy of the full video.
Michael Lloyd thanks for that info, I will look out for a copy of the full video. This was passed to me several years ago as it had a clip of Burscough (were I live) but unfortunately no other info came with it.
We love on the ainscough Mill Estate, and to see the steam trains flying past where our house is, and what the station looked like was amazing thank you
Hi Dave, I you are on Facebook, search out my local history groups ‘Images of Burscough and Surrounding Areas’ lots of old photos of Burscough Junction Railway Station
Will do, thank you for your work with the past keep it up
What a shame the author of this wonderful footage is unknown. Very evocative.
Thank you for posting this great historical footage. I have really enjoyed watching. The commentary is informative but never intrusive. The slipping of the 5 at roughly 9 1/2 minutes was particularly severe; it sounded like a machine gun! Yet as soon as he controlled it the driver gave it full reg again.
Brings back the time I was at school and out with my note book & pencil getting the locomotives numbers great days
Lovely films, very evocative
The Fairburn tank is leaving Riverside station and crossing the bridge separating Princes Dock, in the background, from Princes Half-tide Dock.
Brilliant video !
Superb.
9:35...
😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
BLOODY HELL
😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
meny thanks shame that its all gone
There is a slight error at 17.23, the Liverpool to Glasgow train isn't heading towards Kirkdale it's already past it, those are the tunnels between Hawthorne Road, Brewster Street, Hale Road and Breeze hill just past Kirkdale Station, I'd guess it was filmed from the end of the platform or just past the Hawthorne road bridge. As a child we used to catch the Liverpool to Glasgow train regularly to visit relatives in Kelvinside in Glasgow. I remember my mum used to complain about having to travel into Liverpool Exchange Station from Kirkdale to catch the train as it didn't stop at Kirkdale. These days I travel from Liverpool Central (northern line) with changes at Ormskirk and Preston, the travel time is pretty much the same as when it was a direct service by steam it's also about an hour quicker than going from the main line station Liverpool Lime Street.
Silly me the clip was filmed from the train not from trackside but that's age for you
nostalgic memories of my trainspotting days in the1960s at Wigan Wallgate and North Western. What video was this taken from? and is it still available as I would love to get hold of a copy
Looks like Lancashire & Yorkshire Memories Part 5
A lot of the enthusiasts would be called trespassers nowadays sadly
If you're talking about the idiots standing on the rails around 22:35, they were called trespassers even then. There's nothing "sadly" about it: it's perfectly possible to watch trains from the right side of the fence, without putting your life at risk.
Great video
The closure of Southport to Crossens was rail sabotage
Yep, politicians and oil companies stuffing us all.. tragic end to an amazing era of railways. Thanks
@@bertfairbrother7745 Well said. The line to the North would have patronage today. So much expense in closing a line that will be used now.
11:35...
😂He's got a bit of a SPEED WOBBLE on there😂
Never realized the BR Blue period and Steam ever had any cross over, let alone seeing a steam engine pull BR Blue couches
Quite common in the North West circa 1966/67/68. The new BR corporate Blue was being pushed out more quickly and some of the old steamers were a bit slow in being withdrawn, hence the unusual sight of steam and BR blue, plus BR MKII carriages! These would have been dual air braked/vacuum for older loco's. One or two Duchess pacifics used to work through to Liverpool Exchange, stopping at Ormskirk. Diesels took over for a few years until Exchange closed and all Scotch services were routed to Lime Street.
Huh that's pretty interesting I never knew the timelines on that sorta thing, I was honestly always under the impression that the BR Blue rebranding happened a little after the Steam era came to a close, thanks for the insight
@@UKman945 That was always my impression, too. Always feels weird when something you just assumed to be true turns out not to be.
As a 10 year old child I remember seeing a steam loco pulling British Rail blue coaches through Edge Hill in the spring of 1968, three months before the end of BR steam.
Imagine how useful either reinstating the Burscough curves would be or closing both Burscough stations and building a new station called Burscough interchange where both lines cross. I’m far too imaginative!
EDIT: Mind you, you could walk it in 5 minutes, to do it by train now would take hours, it’s ridiculous.
Cool
Hi there do you know who the narrator was in the sanctioned film?
It always surprises me how much wheelslip there is in these films of working steam locomotives. I can see how you'd slip the wheels when starting a heavy train, for example, but look at 0:13 -- light engine, moving slowly, no need to accelerate hard. Why slip the wheels there? Is that bad driving or am I just underestimating the difficulty and being overly critical?
beeble2003: Yes, I totally agree. Far too much. I suspect the wheelslip is done purposely, for effect for the camera, when they know they are being filmed.
But of course, I'm only guessing here.
;-)
Some nice footage there. Being picky, the pronunciation of Burscough is wrong. It's not 'Burscoff' or 'Burscow' but 'Burscuh'. The state of some of the locos gives a good indication of the excessive loads they were being asked to haul and the dreadful maintenance current in BR at the time......organised sabotage!
And to add! Gathurst is pronounced Gath Hurst .
Yes you are correct about Burscuh. Exactly.
If tha sez it reet proper, tha sez Bosscuh, tha shud kno' coz tha's frum theere!
Great footage. Some of these old locos look ready for the cutting torches. Have you got any footage of ripping these polluting locos apart for scrap?
It's called closure by stealth, it is politics...
the hull old railway line to honsea
Now even the 508s are gone too
Not yet they haven't, about another year you will start to see them being withdrawn
@@kevingraham3161 I think Anne meant the 502's. Yes, the 508's/507's are still with us, but the end is near as you say.
10:10...
Lucky they made Exchange.!😲!.
Eh.!😂!.
Nearly all over the tracks.!🤬!.
AND...
This was the SECOND TIME it'd happened.!🙄!
You'd have thought that he'd have learned from the earlier, shorter 'outburst'.!😂!
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Boy
Those days when we could fabricate anything ourselves and didn’t need to rely on China to make things for us
we lost it all on design when we joined the eu
Should never have closed the curves.