Supermicro AOC-SLG3-2M2 PCIe Add-On Card for up to Two NVMe SSDs
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2021
- Supermicro Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter unboxing and Installation using WD Black 1TB SN850 NVMe M.2 and Samsung 980 PRO 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2.
We differentiate between the x4 Dual M.2 cards, to this x8 Dual M.2 NVMe which breaks down to either Non Bifurcated or Bifurcated. The Bifurcated cards have a PLX Chip. And that PLX Chip determines the Speed. This Non Bifurcated card is just an I/O Card which Requires a Motherboard Bios for Bifurcation to x4x4. With respect to Speed, dealing with 3 elements, M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive, Supermicro M.2 NVMe Dual Adapter and Motherboard Chipset. The Supermicro M.2 NVMe Dual Adapter does not determine the Speed.
We're using 2 M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0, 2nd Generation Drives to test and verify Speed.
Test platform: Gigabyte TRX40 Designare Motherboard.
1. Supermicro AOC-SLG3-2M2 PCIe Add-On Card for up to Two NVMe SSDs
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2. WD_Black 1TB SN850 NVMe Internal Gaming SSD Solid State Drive - Gen4 PCIe, M.2 2280, 3D NAND, Up to 7,000 MB/s - WDS100T1X0
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3. Samsung 980 Pro 1TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 Internal Gaming SSD M.2 (MZ-V8P1T0B)
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4. Gigabyte TRX40 Designare (sTRX/AMD/TRX40/Direct 16+3 Phase VRM/Fins-Array Heatsink/Gen 4 AIC with 4 Extra M.2/ XL-ATX/Motherboard)
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Crazy amount of detail man i actually learned a shit ton. But mostly i Learned that i need a new motherboard
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Welcome! Glad We could help! Unfortunately there are a lot of Computer Builders in the same situation as You. Education about PCIe Resources of Shared vs. Dedicated PCIe Resources is the key! It's all about the Chipsets! Thanks for Watching! Let's talk when You're ready to Build again which may be sooner rather than later!
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Thank you for the good Video! Dell has no Dual Adapter for M2 NVME-Drives (only SATA). Now I have found one for my R540 (SSD-Cache), thank you!
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Welcome! Outstanding! How's that working? Great Product from Supermicro! Success on Your Installation! Once You go NVMe, no going back!
Thanks, very nice! You answered some questions about this cards and how it works!👌🏻
Hi Moriarty,
Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment. Thank You. The Topic and Products requiring Bios Bifurcation are intriguing and fascinating.
Great video with explanation of the hardware and how it interacts.
And I completely missed the Asus Nvme PCIe card review
Hi JRye34,
Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments!
Hi@@jrye3493,
The ASUS Hyper M.2 NVMe PCIe AIC and the Gigabyte Aorus M.2 NVMe x16 AIC!
Restoring Performance ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 PCIe 4.0 Redux
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Windows Bootable NVMe RAID 0 Tutorial on Gigabyte TRX40 Designare using Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0
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Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 AIC Adaptor Comparison and Simple Install Tutorial TRX40 Designare
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GloTrends Sky x8 M.2 NVMe SSD Quad card Unboxing and Setup Installed in HEDT X399 Motherboard
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ASUS Hyper M2 X16 NVMe Quad card plus four Samsung 970s - AMD NVMe RAID 0 Upgrade
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To name a few! We have more! Hope that helps! Thanks for Watching!
Just the video I was looking for.
Hi Mark Stanchin,
Welcome! Outstanding! Appreciate Your Comment! Thanks for Watching!
Thanks a lot! I bought a Supermicro AOC-SLG3-2M2 now. (:
Hi Tobias,
Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment. Excellent. Are you up and running? Remember: Requires a Motherboard with Bios Bifurcation.
Awesome video, my 2nd of yours, you are very concise and right up my alley. I am an older user (dos 6.0 with 6.2 upgrade!) and just recently into nVME drives and these videos were very helpfull. I have an Alienware 18 with mSata boot, SLI video and raid 0 drives, no NVMe possible there. My old desktop Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 however has 4 - pcie 3.0 x 16 slots (2x16 electrical and 2x8 electrical). Installed a Samsung 970 EVO plus in the second x16 slot (8x elec) with a single rivo board and wow, I thought ssd was fast. 3300 read and 3000 write. HWinfo confirms 4x width 3.0 pcie @ 8.0 GT/s.
My question for you is I have installed two separate modded bios to include my new drive and it does boot but IMEI fails to start on either the new Win 10 install (shows PCI Simple Communications Controller error) on my nVME 970 or my old ssd dual boot (win 10 win 7, shows "Intel(R) Management Engine Interface" could not start). Its not a driver issue and I changed my battery. IMEI seems to be very important. Any idea what can be wrong? I have a SSD boot drive with an onboard intel Raid 1 with 2-2tb drives and an onboard Marvell Raid 0 with 2-1tb drives which I disabled prior to bios mod.
Hi Brad Allen,
Welcome! We can relate! Remember DR DOS! Loved it! Anyway, IMEI, is for the Motherboard. Something maybe to do with Your Bios Mod? An Intel generic feature maybe was enabled that You don't have?
Educational gold. Thank you professor
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thank you for the info, I benefited a lot from your video.
Hello Cem Dede,
Welcome! Excellent! Appreciate Your Comments!
Could you perhaps some day look at a card like the SuperMicro AOC-SLG3-2H8M2 which has a RAID chipset (And probably a PLX chip on it too) and see if it could RAID-0 two NVME SSD's into a slightly older computer motherboard that -DOES NOT- have bifurification support and let us know if it would work? It's something I have considered doing but no one on the internet has tested anything like this. And you seem like the sort of person that might be interested in trying something like that. I just found you today with this video and I love everything you have done for us. I plan to spend a lot of time tonight watching most of your other videos too. Please keep doing what you're doing. I found the information you shared here very useful.
Hi Blueberry Apples,
Welcome! Thank you! Appreciate Your Comments!
SuperMicro AOC-SLG3-2H8M2 - Low profile 2 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSDs. Requires: x8 PCIe Gen3 Host interface; BMC-enabled management. Designed for a Server or Workstation.
www.supermicro.com/en/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SLG3-2H8M2.php
That will have a Broadcom PLX Chip, yes.
Broadcom SAS3408 Tomcat I/O RAID Controller
www.broadcom.com/products/storage/sas-sata-controllers/sas-3408
Tell Us more about Your Motherboard. X79 Chipset? Have You considered a self Bifurcated card? There are two. Glotrends Sky (4 Drive) and Amfeltec Squid (6 Drive). Both can use a PCIe 3.0 x8 Slot. We have Videos on both of those AICs.
Glotrends Sky (4 Drive)
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Amfeltec Squid (6 Drive)
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Hope that helps!
the pin for the ssd standoffs goes back into the standoff to push outward the latches that retain the standoffs to the pcb of the card. They kept the pin short because the function was met, and with the pin in place the standoffs cannot be removed readily without the absence of the pin in that position.
Hi craig leach,
Welcome! Yes, absolutely agree! And they do hold well! A commenter on amazon complained about the standoffs. I like them! As You stated, they work! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!
Thank you 🌹Learning a lot from you⭐️🌹
Hi Mee 2# G,
Here to help! Knowledge should be shared! This Supermicro Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter has turned out to be most helpful in Testing the Heatsinks. Easy to install due to the nylon stand offs! Thank You for Watching!
what an amazing video... thanks so much!
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Love these videos! Your channel is awesome. I wonder if you have addressed chipset heat management, ssd , cpu , northbridge, mosfets ,etc... all dissipate lots of heat thus the need to keep em cool via thermal interface materials and heat sinks/heatpipes, I would love to see a video about the calculation/considerations when choosing TIMs and heatsinks, it’s so strange that most laptops don’t have any heat dissipation on the mostfets , and they get pretty hot and fail easily , I know the basics, but when I want to modify a high end laptop and add a heatsink on the vrm section I don’t know how to choose the right size/volume heatsink.
Hi 5 nm,
Welcome! Thank You for Your Comments! I'm honored! Excellent Questions! As those relate to the Test Platform, Gigabyte TRX40 Designare, the Chipset (PCH) Fan only runs at startup! The M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives, always should have a Heatsink! We're working on a Test Video of 6 Heatsinks, 3 types, for 2280 M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives since doing this Video before We do another M.2 NVMe Dual Adapter AIC!
We had to side step for Drive SMART Telemetry. That required a Video. Have to see the Heat Sensor to identify the heat! On this Platform, Drives cannot be in RAID for SMART technology telemetry. Crazy right. We've addressed the CPU Heat by using the Noctua CPU Cooler with an extra CPU Cooler Fan. Very Quiet. We've used Liquid Coolers before. That was like Building a Swiss Watch! The noisiest Fan is the mosfet Fan on the Motherboard running full blast. Controlled in Bios. Dropping the RPMs, affects noise more than heat. That needs a larger Fan or larger heatsink or both! Larger Fans more more CFMs and makes less noise! Copper would help immensely instead of Aluminum!
As for Heatsinks for Laptop M.2 NVMe Drives, We're going to include one in the Mix of 6. Space is a big problem in a Laptop. Being able to breath is the best defense for heat on a Laptop. Yes there are other options but they get expensive. And those options are best left to a professional. We will keep these requests in mind for inclusion in future Videos! To reiterate, Your Questions help Us to make better Videos based on Subscriber Requests! Thanks for Watching! Stay tuned!
So, looking at the results, this adapter, with its gen3 x8 pins, intended in theory for 4GB/s times two(for two gen3 x4 NVMe drives), can actually do gen4 x4 speeds(max 8GB/s, in a gen4-slot), if used, as tested, with a single gen4 x4 NVMe SSD at a time. So it's basicly gen4 capable adapter, if I understand correctly. Just, though, for just one gen4 x4 drive at a time, as the test CrystalDiskMark-test does it, and the LED light showing the same. I think, bandwidth would possibly run out with this kind of gen3 adapter, if we would use both gen4 drives at the same time--as the intended usecase is two gen3 drives. Looking at the test results at read speeds of 7GB/s alone, which isnt possible when using an actual "speed-limiting" gen3 adapter for gen3 x4 drives. Makes sense; the math in theory states: 2 times (gen3 x8 =)8GB/s(rounded up, single gen3 lane being 985MB/s), which equals 1 time (gen4 x4 =)8GB/s(rounded up, single gen4 lane being 1,970MB/s). Very interesting results.
Hi Administrator,
Welcome! Yes, You are correct! The only limiter would be if We had a PLX Chip for PCIe 3.0. For PCIe 5.0, that would be a different story. For PCIe 4.0, We're workable as indicated.
We have Subscriber Questions Questions for both JBOD and RAID. On the Dual Adapter, only JBOD.
1. SATA III is 600MBps, burst mode. Sustained throughput is about 150MBps.
2. M.2 NVMe, PCIe 3.0 is 3,500MBps.
3. M.2 NVMe, PCIe 4.0, 1st Generation is 5,000MBps.
4. M.2 NVMe, PCIe 4.0, 2nd Generation is 7,000MBps.
5. M.2 NVMe, PCIe 4.0, 3rd Generation is 7,300MBps, on the Write. And the Read is almost 7,000MBps!
6. M.2 NVMe, PCIe 5.0, 1st Generation will be 15,000MBps! We do not expect any of the current Dual or Quad Adapters to be able to handle PCIe 5.0.
In RAID 0, We can do a Video on that! You are the 1st to ask! To reiterate, Everyone so far wants JBOD. Yes, interesting. Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!
Thank you for informations!
Hi Richard Cabrera,
Welcome! Outstanding! Glad We could help! Excellent Dual Adapter!
Thank you tremendously!
Hi Kool K,
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@@BuildOrBuy Subscribed. Very informative. This video reminded me of my engineering classes and modules with Ameritech/SBC. You are an excellent instructor.
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Hi Robert A,
Welcome! Outstanding! Glad You see the value of the message! Appreciate Your Comments! Amazing Product! Fascinating to know, not all Supermicro Motherboards support BIOS Bifurcation to accommodate this Add in Card!
Are there any PCIe Bifurcation cards that split x16 to two M.2 (or 2 PCIe x4) slots AND give you a x8 lane slot for a GPU?
The Nvidia 4060 only needs 8 lanes of its PCIe x16 slot.
I found a PCIe x16 to x8x4x4 (dual M.2 slots and x16 riser slot with 8 lanes) ... but it needs motherboard support/control for x8x4x4.
Hi RealKing,
Welcome. There are 2 types of these cards. 1. This Supermicro card requires Motherboard Bios Bifurcation.
2. A Self Bifurcated card. These are more expensive costing as much or more than a Motherboard.
The simplest solution is to utilize a Motherboard like a HEDT or Workstation that has enough PCIe Lanes to cover everything for simultaneous operation. That excludes Consumer Desktop Motherboards.
To your Question, no. Bifurcation is specifically to allow M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives only.
does this card work with aorus b550 slot labeled pciex 16 slot (pciex4) integrated in the chipset supporting pcie 3.0 x 4 mode?
Hi sdog,
Welcome! Think about what You're asking. This card Requires 8 CPU PCIe Lanes. The Slot You describe has 4 Chipset PCIe Lanes. You would only see 1 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive! Hope that helps!
Do you have anything against the M.2 slots on the motherboard? You simply have all your SSD's (including the boot) on the PCIe slots?
Hi Noam Lavi,
Interesting observation. Not at all. Again to reiterate, this setup is a progression of Answering Subscribers Questions. We started with 1 Quad card. That progressed through all Quad cards. Then this Best of class Dual M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Adapter. And along the way showing the differences in CPU PCIe Lanes and Chipset PCIe Lanes. Plus issues of Bifurcation are always present. And that took Us through Defining Bios Bifurcation and Self Bifurcation. Every Video tells a unique story. Plucking 1 Video out of sequence without the back story does not tell the complete story as You have asked. Perspective and Perception. Hope that helps! Our 2 main topics of Questions are Quad cards and Bifurcation. After this Video, that took Us to Test 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive Heatsinks. To again address Subscribers Questions. So to Your Question, M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives are preferred on CPU PCIe Lanes then down the line. To simplify the progression of Quick Tests, We simply the Configuration to prevent confusion for Us and Viewers. Have You ever installed a Quad card? Have You ever tried RAID on a Quad card? We have Videos on those Topics. Quad cards are just I/O cards. JBOD is the default Configuration. RAID is an option but not a requirement. More than You asked! Perception and Perspective!
Hi Bill, Great video, do you know if i can place 2 Firecuda 530 with heat sink on this board? if not do you know any Hyper M.2 PCI-e 3 or 4 with 2 card that can hold 2 Seagate Firecuda with heatsink?
Hi Filpe Cunha,
Excellent Question! Only concern would be the wraparound. Those should work! We've used other M.2 Heatsinks and they also fit! This should fit as well but We have not tried it! To reiterate, as always, Test and Verify! This is the best M.2 Dual Adapter for the price! Hope that helps!
I have an Aorus Elite x570 motherboard which has 1: pciex16 and 1: pciex4. the x16 is populated by my GPU, so I put this expansion card on the pciex4 slot but it's only picking up one of my two drives on the Supermicro card. Am I not able to do anything even If I run them at less bandwidth? Sorry I'm kind of new at this stuff.
Hi Franklin Gomez,
Welcome! Glad to help! Give me a couple of days. We'll have a Video Response to explain Your situation identifying the Problem and possible Solution.
@@BuildOrBuy No worries, I appreciate the help! you're killing it on youtube lately !
Hi@@robin2080,
Appreciate Your Patience! To reiterate, not enough PCIe Resources to go around. Furthermore, that PCIeX4 Slot only has enough PCIe Resources for 1 single M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive. Each M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive requires 4 Lanes hence We need a X8 Slot or use the X16 Slot to see 2 Drive due to the way that Slot handles Bifurcation. Bummer! Neither option is ideal! Let's talk Chipsets next time before You Build! Chipsets rule!
Motherboard speakers...yes...got a bag of them. They tell you up front if it will boot or not.
Hi Mike Quinton,
Welcome! Absolutely! Keep it simple! Thanks for Watching!
Hello BuildOrBuy. I check my BIOS for bifurcation but I don't see the option. I have an Alienware R11 Z490 motherboard. Is it something I'm overlooking? I would like to use this card for dual Samsung 980 pros with Heatsinks. The only options I see in my BIOS in regards to drives is SATA Operation with a selection for RAID on or AHCI. My BIOS is extremely limited.
Thanks again for your videos.
Hi Kool K,
Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! What's the age of Your Motherboard? Bifurcation is about 5 years old now. Z490 Chipset does not have enough PCIe Resources even if it did partially support Bifurcation. You only have 20 PCIe Lanes from the CPU. Everything else is through the Chipset. You need a HEDT or Workstation to fully support Bifurcation from the CPU PCIe Lanes. In Your Bios under PCIe Slots would be a setting for changing from x16 to x4x4x4x4 for full Bifurcation.
Your other Option would be a self Bifurcated Add in card. Those are expensive since the Bifurcation PLX Lane switching chip is built in to the card. Either Highpoint or Glotrends. Hope that helps!
@@BuildOrBuy Yes it does. Very much. The Super Micro AOC SLG3-2M2 is working well and my speeds are great. Your tutorial on lane speeds helped me understand a great deal. I'm transferring my data from drive to drive without any issues. I literally moved over 500gb of data from my C: to G: in record time due to your videos. A fellow Guru at Guru3d helped me get the drive recognized on Steam.
Thanks again.
HI@@koolk2115,
Outstanding! Glad We could help! Thanks for Sharing! Success on Your Upgrade!
what is the best thermal compound you recommend? do we have any videos testing different thermal compounds?
Hi Srini,
Welcome! Great Question, Not yet! Two things We would want to consider:
1. Thermal Emissivity Rating
2. Non Conductivity
So far, We've only Tested 14 M.2 NVMe PCIe Heatsinks and 3 Thermal Pads. All seperate Videos! Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!
@@BuildOrBuy appreciate if you could do that at some point of time (if you find time)
Hi@@sriniattaluri9388,
We will definitely keep that in mind for a future Video! Appreciate Your Request! Right now, We're sorting out PCIe Lanes for Slots and Storage on X670E Motherboards! When We Test more Thermal Solutions for M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives, We'll keep that as an inclusion! Details matter! To reiterate, the first part will be Defining a List based on Thermal Emissivity Ratings! Then Test and Verify!
AOC-SLG3-2M2 is pcie 3.0
980 pro is 4.0
how are you getting these 4.0 rates?
Hi Srini Attaluri,
Welcome! Excellent Question! To reiterate,
1. Motherboard Chipset
2. M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive Spec
The AIC or Add in card whether PCIe 3.0 or 4.0 does not affect Speed. PCIe 5.0 is a different animal to deal with! If this were a Self Bifurcated card then the Bifurcation PLX Chipset would be the Controlling factor in limiting the Speed to whatever Spec said Chipset meets. All Self Bifurcated cards are PCIe 3.0 at this time. Hope that clarification helps! Thanks for Asking!
sir...i really need your help...we are using supermicro mother board H12DSU-iN and AOC-SLG-3-2H8M2 raid card.. But we unable to install Operating system (Ubuntu version 18, 20 and 22 as well). I am ready to give you my any desk ID for support... Please help me
Hi mahesh waghmare,
Welcome! Must be setup and configured from UEFI mode. And NOT Bios mode (legacy).
Enable Bifurcation
1. PCIe Slot CPU Lanes x4x4x4x4
BIOS Setup -> Advanced -> Chipset Configuration -> North
Bridge -> IIO Configuration -> CPU Configuration -> IOU Setting -> x4x4x4x4.
2. NVMe Firmware Source set to AMI Native Support. This option may
be found under BIOS Setup -> Advanced -> PCIe/PCI/PnP Configuration ->
NVMe Firmware Source -> AMI Native Support.
UEFI mode.
3. Disable CSM.
4. Disable Secure Boot.
Activate NVMe option in GRUB
5. nvme_load=YES
6. nvd_load=YES
7. remove "quiet splash ---"
NVME drive should now available in Installer.
Voila!
Hope that helps! Appreciate Your Support!
Good day, sir!
I want to purchase this adapter for high height M.2 connectors in order to install one double sided PCB NVMe SSD with a third party heatsink. Most of M.2 to PCIe adapters only have low height m.2 connectors. Would you kindly tell whether the top or bottom M.2 is prioritised for a single drive load. I want to to install this in PCIe 4.0 x4 slot through chipset lanes on my motherboard.
Hi MagicCaster,
This card requires a X8 Slot and a Motherboard that has Bios Bifurcation capability. For your Motherboard with a X4 Slot, you'll need a Self Bifurcated card. Amfeltec out of Canada can do what you want. But at a steep price.
@@BuildOrBuyI appreciate for your response, sir!
Do you mean that this adapter won't likely work for a single drive on a X4 chipset slot? Both primary PCIe 5.0 x16 and x8 slots support bifurcation, but the x16 one is used by a 4 slot GPU and\, hence, the x8 slot is inaccessible.
Hi@@magiccaster-hn7rg ,
For a Single Drive, Yes.
I guess that I have to look for another brand. Thank you kindly for your reviews!
Hi@@magiccaster-hn7rg,
This will do what you want. Focus on the technology. To reiterate, to make full use of this card requires X8. To use this card with 1 Drive, X4. And if you want to utilize 2 Drives on X4 Lanes, Amfeltec from Canada. That's a difference in this card requiring a Motherboard Bios Bifurcation to a Self Bifurcated card.
What about heat sinks or fans for the m.2's? And like Regan, trust but verify. I know they need to be warm but not hot.
Hi David White,
Excellent Question! Exactly! We ran into a little problem. We cover that problem in this next Video! Heatsinks next! Thanks for Asking!
How To Update Firmware on M.2 NVMe Drives on Gigabyte TRX40 Designare
ruclips.net/video/PXn47dUefwg/видео.html
Well you get big heat sinks and small fans on the AIC quad NVMe cards for four drives. They're in a socket not under your hot GPU. Should help. As for controller temp, I did try Grizzle pads $$ on the controller and cut the stock pad to cover the nand flash. I didn't know how to get temp sensor info, but they didn't throttle.
Hi@@maxhughes5687 , How much of a difference did the Thermal Grizzly pads make? Did You check both ways?
We'll test 6 heatsinks of 3 types. So far, without a Heatsink We hit 84 degrees Celsius! Way too Hot! Down the rabbit hole! Stay tuned!
@@BuildOrBuy The E16 controller temp info was from GN several years ago. Grizzly was the best W/mK, but expensive, so I just put it on the controller and used regular pads on the nand. Temps no info. I didn't know how to get it. I'd just test the speed then spin um up as much as I could and run CD Mark again. But as I've said before this was with 6 GEN4 drives on a GEN3 mobo. 4 were an AIC and two were on Asus new DIMM2 cards with heat sinks. 3500/3500 isn't really pushing these drives. 5000/4400 would have been ideal. GEN4 V2, I don't have any.
Hi@@maxhughes5687, Getting the SMART technology telemetry was a bit of an ordeal on the TRX40 Designare.
That was a bit of work cutting and fitting those pads.
Knowing the potential speed of PCIe 5.0, can You imagine the heat those are going to generate. Vendors will have to use Copper. No Aluminum! I'd like to try a Silver heatsink just for grins. We'll see!
ayone knows what kind of ATX Motherboard with remote managagement will that card AOC-SLG4-2H8M2 works?
Hi BOOSTNET,
Welcome. Interesting question. Start with Supermicro. After that, Test and Verify.
@@BuildOrBuy that was not helpfull ...
Hi@@boostnet_it_solutions,
We have not seen any documentation on this add-in card for remote management nor have we had any experience based on the technology at the time when this card was introduced. This card requires a Motherboard that supports Bios Bifurcation. That's the best we can offer. Based on PCIe Resources for a Workstation, a Quad card might make more sense.
@@BuildOrBuy thanks for reply, can you send me an example of working MB with remote management and an card for 4 x slots m.2 nvme - to work this together?
Hi@@boostnet_it_solutions,
Although Bios Bifurcation has been around since the Intel X299 Chipset and BMC has been around, utilizing those 2 technologies together is very new. There is only one Dual Adapter by Supermicro that can do what You want that we know of at this time. Even though a Quad card is a more efficient use of PCIe Resources, none of them are validated for BMC, that we know of at this time. A Honey Badger card falls in that category but no documentation available. Therefore, here's the product You want. Link below:
Supermicro AOC-SLG4-2H8M2
store.supermicro.com/aoc-slg4-2h8m2-o.html
Currently out of stock. Querry Supermicro for stock status. New product.
Add-on Card AOC-SLG4-2H8M2
www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SLG4-2H8M2.php
- Support BMC-enabled management
- operating through BMC IPMI WebGUI > Storage Monitoring > Controller View > Enable JBOD; or
- operating under BIOS > Controller > Advanced (Controller Properties) > JBOD Mode
The Gigabyte z590 Arous Pro AX has 4 M.2 spots on the board.
Hi BDP Racing,
Thanks for Subscribing! Appreciate Your Support!
Gigabyte z590 Arous Pro AX
www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z590-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-10/sp#sp
*20 PCIe Lanes.*
3 M.2 NVMe SSDs to CPU.
Primary x16 Slot, mechanically, x8 electrically when 2nd and 3rd M.2 NVMe SSD are used. And that's a Bummer!
1 M.2 NVMe SSD through Chipset.
Hope that helps!
BTW: Did You know about the new NVIDIA RTX A4500 announcement? Next Video, We're going to talk about that GPU! Although, I know You need a GPU right now! Stay Tuned!
NVIDIA RTX A4500
www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/rtx-a4500/
@@BuildOrBuy I did not know about the RTX A4500. Thanks for the heads up. I could have sworn it had 4 spots on the motherboard. I should have gone through the owners manual. I was looking at those motherboards about a month ago before the 12th gen Intel chips came out.
HI@@bdp-racing,
Absolutely! The RTX A4500 looks like it's worth waiting for. Right between the RTX A4000 and RTX A5000. 2 Slots Wide, 200 watts, Can use NVLink Bridge or can be Synced. Has right amount of VRAM too at 20GBs!
There are 4 Spots on that Motherboard. 3 are to the CPU. And 1 is through the Chipset. And 2 of those to the CPU Share Bandwidth with the GPU Slot. Not enough PCIe Resources!
Will this work in Mac Pro 5,1
Hi William B Jones,
Welcome! Unfortunately no. The Mac does not support Bifurcation and that's a Requirement. Bifurcation is the Ability to Fork or Split CPU PCIe Lanes specifically in the Motherboard Bios. Your best Option is a Self Bifurcated Add in card such as Highpoint which are 4 or 8 Drive cards.
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This is actually interesting. Even product page show us that card is Gen 3, but in fact it... let's be 100% correct - show us "Gen 4 speed for SSD". Is it mean that card is actually Gen 4? Basicly card is simple (electrical) converter 1x PCI Express x8 to 2x M.2 x4 slots. So, no "special" electrical preparation on PCB level (extra layers or shielding)? Because i know that PCI Express riser cables actually have got stuff inside... well... cables - shielding of the signal. Maybe that shielding is important only for GPU (intense data transfer)?
It can't be that Supermicro don't have PCI Express 4.0 motherboards, right? Thay are big manufacturer.
P.S. But it good anyway, since this is cheap card. Even in my country it cost ~$50. Good for cheap raid experiments (SSD\Optane Raid combos).
Hi rusTORK,
Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! This is very important to understand Resources and how they are allocated on a Motherboard and how they interact. The Speed Test verification says Yes! We expect that to change with PCIe 5.0, as You have described. And those Riser Cables are apparently not made to a high enough tolerance nor standard to be practical from what We've tested. Starting this List off with a Server Component only made sense as We work Our way through to the Consumer Cards. And maybe a Card with a PLX Chip.
We've already covered one Quad card with a PLX Chip. The Glotrends Sky card. Which requires a x8 Slot electrically for 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 Drives.
We're going to have to do a Video on RAID Types and Levels of RAID. This is a poor man's RAID for either a Hybrid Bios RAID or an O/S RAID but not a Hardware RAID. Amazing what We can accomplish on the Desktop these days! Thanks for Watching! Stay tuned!
GEN3 aic that works with GEN4 drives near the cpu but doesn't work further from the cpu put the mfgr in a odd position. At GEN4 NVMe launch new more expensive mobos with larger traces and more layers for signal integrity cost more. Some mobos offered a beta bios update to use GEN4 drives on a GEN3 motherboard, but again length of the run made a difference. GEN4 drives on a GEN4 mobo running in a GEN3 AIC should work. I noticed Asus GEN3 AIC to GEN4 AIC had more capacitors to handle the sudden power surge when drives went from idle to in use.
Hi@@maxhughes5687 , Agreed. When We get to PCIe 5.0, that will definitely matter!
What language is this man speaking "delineation"?
Hello tiptizlode4995,
Welcome ! Excellent Question! The fundamentals of specificity! Indubitably!
it's called wind-ow-s not win-da-s....hehe
Hi Readog,
Welcome! We're from different neck of the woods!
Great content. The switching of point of view is distracting though.
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