Another great video! I love your videos because you give all tennis products an equal chance and don't not review products just because they aren't by any of the big brands. Keep it up!
The ProKennex Kinetic system has really caught my attention. I have always wondered if I could make a rudimentary concept with other brands. My idea was to take lead BBs and pour a specified amount into the channels of the handle and seal the end with a cotton ball to have plush cushion for the material and a way to prevent the BBs from punching the buttcap off after contact. I am in the rabbit hole of customizing to defy convention. 😂
Love the review! Not a bad idea. I use string savers to help increase that stiffness and lower the launch angle. I was at a tournament last week with one of my students & we had one of his racquets with no string savers & another we put 2. One on the 5th cross down and the 7th one down for the 2nd string saver. First set he lost 1-6. 2nd set he made the change with the stick with string savers and won 6-2(Won 4 straight games!). Then proceeded to win the match breaker 10-2. Definitely made a difference! I went to the Rentenser web site. I’m a total tennis 🤓 to see if there were specifications on weight for the device. There were none there. Again great review!
Jeff - did you just add 2 string savers in total? Have experimented with it more? What do you think the difference were? Slightly more tension? Increase in sweetspot? Any information you can share? Very curious about that.
From their site under support page FAQ - On one hand, the Retenser contributes to added weight, while on the other hand, it replaces the grommet strip at the bottom of the bridge, which offsets weight in the same area. The overall effect is an increase of approximately 5 grams. For reference, racket weights typically range between 250 and 320 grams, making this weight gain typically less than 2%.
Are you use to your wilson prior to playing with the retenser? My question is whether you felt the sweetspot increased a little bit. They claim that on their website. Thanks
The reason this would be said is due to the length of mains being increased. Makes sense, this would technically have to be true. Not sure I noticed that. Was much more focused on the difference in tensions and what not. I'm sure it's true but you may or may not notice it.
Not me, the first stick I couldn't use. I don't get off on martyrdom. The thing inflicts so much pain I need to put it down. Weird huh, well it is what it is. Everyone raves about it, not I sir. Sheer torture.
@@ZeroLoveTennis I'd be interested to hear your impressions. Curious because it has similar specs to the t-fight iso 305 which I loved but possibly contributed to my shoulder issues. I'd be interested in a blade pro if I didn't just buy three Tempo 298s. Have you tried that racquet? Pretty good stuff.
I'm very into ProKennex because I think it has the best method of dealing with the stress of tennis with the movable mass. It has this secondary weight that kicks in right on the moment of contact, the moment of most shock. It's very clever and fixes the problems without needing to be a mushy racquet. But it also has so much feel. I couldn't tell you something like the Blade Pro is arm friendly when I think the ProKennex is more arm friendly and has better feel. Maybe that's why I haven't reviewed the Blade Pro. I've hit with the actual h19's and h22's which do feel a bit different and I'm even more intrigued by the ProKennex stuff. But even that perspective could be a cool one to come at it with. I just haven't personally felt a need to get a Blade Pro review out there. But I can and hope to soon-ish but those are my thoughts right now.
@@ZeroLoveTennis Really interesting, thanks for sharing! Did you have arm issues that you wanted the racquet to solve or ease, or did you buy the racquet for preventative measures? Or...is the racquet just that good on its own?
The only thing that comes to mind is if it could be adjusted on the fly so quickly that you could serve using a higher/lower tension then quickly switch to your preferred rally tension higher or looser. I'm not good enough to imagine what would be the preferred tension for a serve that might be not as good for rallying.
Haha you mean adjust right after hitting serve? That would be something. And I'm sure that decision of tension for serve vs rally would always be pretty personal.
Your level won't drop with cheap strings but they might break sooner, give you less spin, be way less comfortable, drop tension quickly, etc. I still stick with toroline and restring's high snapback options because the cost still works in my favor if I have to string 1/3 as often. If you're paying to string, stringing less often saves money even if a string is a bit more. If you string yourself, you can save yourself a few hours of time over a month or two depending on how often you string. That is also worth the difference in price to me. It's also less expensive than luxilon or something like that and performs/lasts longer/better. So, personally, I can't really get behind the idea as it would only mean worse strings which break more often and end up costing me more while also enjoying it less.
I'm curious if that tighter adjustment altered your accuracy. I've never seen you miss on your left f/H like that. Then again I've never seen a RUclipsr come on screen with hair that looked like you just walked through a hedge backwards, then there's thongs on a tennis court how gauche, then there's leotards in California. What is with the air down there? Wilson has in the Blade; built the only racket I cannot swing. For me it is precision engineered to induce so much pain in my shoulder I can't play more than one game and I'm in excruciating agony. No other racket in the world has even nearly the effect on me. It feels like an amputation with no anesthetic, seriously it's the closest I've come to packing up tennis. Retenser is an audacious product. Is it even legal in competitive play? Secondly your messing with your head balance, thirdly you're really messing with the racket's aerodynamics. Lastly if I bought a beautiful racket like the Wilson Blade do I want to make it look ugly... Uhh no I think not. For all these cons (for me at least) this company is being incredibly audacious because umm who in there right mind would want to compromise there racket to the point of possibly throwing a match for a gimmick. I don't know many who would quite frankly. Don't get me wrong I wish Retenser the very best of success. It's just not for me, there's that old saying if it's not broke, don't fix it. I believe that saying sums up my chances of using this product. The idea is really gutsy, the reality is to many trade-offs for me to even bother testing it myself. That's the same colour grip as mine wuddupwitdat? Is it a Xamsa - Glu? (spoken Zamza) You like quality right. Well this is a base grip not any chincy over grip. Comfort? 110% Tackiness? I nearly put my dumb shoulder out. When they say Glu they really mean it. Don't let the Squash origins fool you, this grip was a bit too long if anything. I guesstimate a 20% consistency improvement in my game. Probably higher I'm naturally conservative if anything because embellishments I've no time for. 🤔👋 PS seems I have racket envy, have you thought of reaching out to them as an official company Rep? They need exposure, that's there worst shortfall in there business plan IMHO xamsasquash.com/products/x-glu-remplacement
Haha you talking about my old covid era haircut? I had to do something myself. Salons were shut down! Fun times. Was the forehand looking good? I've been working on it. Retenser is totally legal. It's a cool idea. I think answering the desire to change tension after stringing is notable. Will be interesting to see if the idea evolves even more. I kinda feel you on the initial reaction to the look but I had it on long enough that I mostly forgot about it. Wanted to give it proper to time to settle in, in all the ways.
As a fucking nerd ( who am I ) i want to ask this company 1 question if your frame breaks ( cause your mains are tighter with maybe 3 pounds or 4 pounds ) if your racket deforms and breaks ..this could be a very big issue with this gimmick
I actually doubt that. Frames withstand way more pressure. Being strung is actually the highest stress thing for a racquet (minus a tantrum that leads one to break a racquet) and as strings age, sometimes the mains or crosses can be quite a bit tighter than the mains other since hybrids don't always age so similarly. I wouldn't worry about it.
@@ZeroLoveTennis I just feel pocketing has to be compromised drastically by tightening 2 or 3 strings. I even think that would compromise tension maintenance not just accuracy. Ever heard of the Serengeti method? Changed my Gravity Pro, gave me just what I wanted more grab for spin, deeper pocketing. Bit of a chore for the stringer but give it a whirl made all the difference with my Gravity Pro. Less board, more touch 👌
I've thought about something similar. I think Federer does a similar thing? Something that does factor in string length for tension. It's a multi-tensioned string job.
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Another great video! I love your videos because you give all tennis products an equal chance and don't not review products just because they aren't by any of the big brands. Keep it up!
Thank you, I appreciate you recognizing that!
The ProKennex Kinetic system has really caught my attention. I have always wondered if I could make a rudimentary concept with other brands. My idea was to take lead BBs and pour a specified amount into the channels of the handle and seal the end with a cotton ball to have plush cushion for the material and a way to prevent the BBs from punching the buttcap off after contact.
I am in the rabbit hole of customizing to defy convention. 😂
I respect productive experimentation to defy convention haha.
Love the review! Not a bad idea. I use string savers to help increase that stiffness and lower the launch angle. I was at a tournament last week with one of my students & we had one of his racquets with no string savers & another we put 2. One on the 5th cross down and the 7th one down for the 2nd string saver. First set he lost 1-6. 2nd set he made the change with the stick with string savers and won 6-2(Won 4 straight games!). Then proceeded to win the match breaker 10-2. Definitely made a difference!
I went to the Rentenser web site. I’m a total tennis 🤓 to see if there were specifications on weight for the device. There were none there.
Again great review!
I will reach out and request that they post the weight somewhere it's easy to find! I'll try to notify in future content of the weight.
Jeff - did you just add 2 string savers in total? Have experimented with it more? What do you think the difference were? Slightly more tension? Increase in sweetspot? Any information you can share? Very curious about that.
From their site under support page FAQ - On one hand, the Retenser contributes to added weight, while on the other hand, it replaces the grommet strip at the bottom of the bridge, which offsets weight in the same area. The overall effect is an increase of approximately 5 grams. For reference, racket weights typically range between 250 and 320 grams, making this weight gain typically less than 2%.
Are you use to your wilson prior to playing with the retenser? My question is whether you felt the sweetspot increased a little bit. They claim that on their website. Thanks
The reason this would be said is due to the length of mains being increased. Makes sense, this would technically have to be true. Not sure I noticed that. Was much more focused on the difference in tensions and what not. I'm sure it's true but you may or may not notice it.
What is the tension range, off of the original string tension, either way?
About 9lbs or 3kg if using the "pro" dial but you can use another that has a smaller range, which might be preferred by some.
I'm sure we're all wondering what your thoughts are on the blade pro, though...
Not me, the first stick I couldn't use. I don't get off on martyrdom. The thing inflicts so much pain I need to put it down. Weird huh, well it is what it is. Everyone raves about it, not I sir. Sheer torture.
Ha, I should review it sometime I suppose. Interested in one?
@@ZeroLoveTennis I'd be interested to hear your impressions. Curious because it has similar specs to the t-fight iso 305 which I loved but possibly contributed to my shoulder issues.
I'd be interested in a blade pro if I didn't just buy three Tempo 298s. Have you tried that racquet? Pretty good stuff.
I'm very into ProKennex because I think it has the best method of dealing with the stress of tennis with the movable mass. It has this secondary weight that kicks in right on the moment of contact, the moment of most shock. It's very clever and fixes the problems without needing to be a mushy racquet.
But it also has so much feel. I couldn't tell you something like the Blade Pro is arm friendly when I think the ProKennex is more arm friendly and has better feel. Maybe that's why I haven't reviewed the Blade Pro. I've hit with the actual h19's and h22's which do feel a bit different and I'm even more intrigued by the ProKennex stuff.
But even that perspective could be a cool one to come at it with. I just haven't personally felt a need to get a Blade Pro review out there. But I can and hope to soon-ish but those are my thoughts right now.
@@ZeroLoveTennis Really interesting, thanks for sharing! Did you have arm issues that you wanted the racquet to solve or ease, or did you buy the racquet for preventative measures? Or...is the racquet just that good on its own?
How much would it increase the swingweight after installing it?
I doubt more than 2-3pts. I haven't measured. It's not very heavy and sits a bit lower than a dampener would.
The only thing that comes to mind is if it could be adjusted on the fly so quickly that you could serve using a higher/lower tension then quickly switch to your preferred rally tension higher or looser. I'm not good enough to imagine what would be the preferred tension for a serve that might be not as good for rallying.
Haha you mean adjust right after hitting serve? That would be something. And I'm sure that decision of tension for serve vs rally would always be pretty personal.
What do you think about buying cheaper tennis reel and still play like a pro.
Your level won't drop with cheap strings but they might break sooner, give you less spin, be way less comfortable, drop tension quickly, etc. I still stick with toroline and restring's high snapback options because the cost still works in my favor if I have to string 1/3 as often. If you're paying to string, stringing less often saves money even if a string is a bit more.
If you string yourself, you can save yourself a few hours of time over a month or two depending on how often you string. That is also worth the difference in price to me. It's also less expensive than luxilon or something like that and performs/lasts longer/better.
So, personally, I can't really get behind the idea as it would only mean worse strings which break more often and end up costing me more while also enjoying it less.
@@ZeroLoveTennis have you heard of Kelist 660 reel for 38 dollar. Say 16 gauge.
I have not. The cheap brands I'm familiar with and tested are...Isospeed, MSV, Oehms (ohems?) and Pro's Pro.
Interesting gadget
I'm curious if that tighter adjustment altered your accuracy. I've never seen you miss on your left f/H like that. Then again I've never seen a RUclipsr come on screen with hair that looked like you just walked through a hedge backwards, then there's thongs on a tennis court how gauche, then there's leotards in California. What is with the air down there?
Wilson has in the Blade; built the only racket I cannot swing. For me it is precision engineered to induce so much pain in my shoulder I can't play more than one game and I'm in excruciating agony. No other racket in the world has even nearly the effect on me. It feels like an amputation with no anesthetic, seriously it's the closest I've come to packing up tennis.
Retenser is an audacious product. Is it even legal in competitive play? Secondly your messing with your head balance, thirdly you're really messing with the racket's aerodynamics. Lastly if I bought a beautiful racket like the Wilson Blade do I want to make it look ugly... Uhh no I think not. For all these cons (for me at least) this company is being incredibly audacious because umm who in there right mind would want to compromise there racket to the point of possibly throwing a match for a gimmick. I don't know many who would quite frankly. Don't get me wrong I wish Retenser the very best of success. It's just not for me, there's that old saying if it's not broke, don't fix it. I believe that saying sums up my chances of using this product. The idea is really gutsy, the reality is to many trade-offs for me to even bother testing it myself.
That's the same colour grip as mine wuddupwitdat? Is it a Xamsa - Glu? (spoken Zamza) You like quality right. Well this is a base grip not any chincy over grip. Comfort? 110% Tackiness? I nearly put my dumb shoulder out. When they say Glu they really mean it. Don't let the Squash origins fool you, this grip was a bit too long if anything. I guesstimate a 20% consistency improvement in my game. Probably higher I'm naturally conservative if anything because embellishments I've no time for. 🤔👋
PS seems I have racket envy, have you thought of reaching out to them as an official company Rep? They need exposure, that's there worst shortfall in there business plan IMHO
xamsasquash.com/products/x-glu-remplacement
Haha you talking about my old covid era haircut? I had to do something myself. Salons were shut down! Fun times. Was the forehand looking good? I've been working on it.
Retenser is totally legal.
It's a cool idea. I think answering the desire to change tension after stringing is notable. Will be interesting to see if the idea evolves even more. I kinda feel you on the initial reaction to the look but I had it on long enough that I mostly forgot about it.
Wanted to give it proper to time to settle in, in all the ways.
As a fucking nerd ( who am I ) i want to ask this company 1 question if your frame breaks ( cause your mains are tighter with maybe 3 pounds or 4 pounds ) if your racket deforms and breaks ..this could be a very big issue with this gimmick
I actually doubt that. Frames withstand way more pressure. Being strung is actually the highest stress thing for a racquet (minus a tantrum that leads one to break a racquet) and as strings age, sometimes the mains or crosses can be quite a bit tighter than the mains other since hybrids don't always age so similarly.
I wouldn't worry about it.
There is Q&A on their website. They address it
First
very nice :)
This dumb device just adds too much weight to the throat. Would have been interesting otherwise.
How much weight does it add?
Seems more like snake oil to me
But it does change the tension and changing the tension does have real effects. So...it definitely makes a difference.
@@ZeroLoveTennis I just feel pocketing has to be compromised drastically by tightening 2 or 3 strings. I even think that would compromise tension maintenance not just accuracy. Ever heard of the Serengeti method? Changed my Gravity Pro, gave me just what I wanted more grab for spin, deeper pocketing. Bit of a chore for the stringer but give it a whirl made all the difference with my Gravity Pro. Less board, more touch 👌
I've thought about something similar. I think Federer does a similar thing? Something that does factor in string length for tension. It's a multi-tensioned string job.