Can you please add a backup hole there? Search for vacuum pump or something in RUclips and refit something so the chamber can have at least some vacuum!
@@LandtoHouse hey Seth the reason your micro hydro turbine slowed down a little is when you open the lid there's good air flow which the squirrel cage blower attachment creates drag to keep the turbine from over working and burning up plus if there NO air movement it may burn up or it's performance will be greatly reduced due to lack of air resistance.
I really think the kids add a bit of humor to your vids. They make me smile and sometimes laugh when they make an appearance. They are at such a fun age, enjoy them. And they do seem to get along just as one would expect for their ages.
@@LandtoHouse - And that's cool that you allow them to do that. Many of today's parents would be horrified to allow their little ones to be exposed to all that dirt and germs! Heaven forbid! Yet we played in mud when we were kids and we turned out OK (I think!). Humans need exposure to life's experiences to grow a good immune system! Great work with the hydro, too. I'd have been tempted to give the steel box some love in terms of wire-wheeling, priming and painting. I wouldn't want corrosion getting a hold there and rusting away the big holes for the nozzles. Did Mr. Langston ever give you a postmortem on the old unit as to the failure point? (please forgive me if I haven't read it yet in past messages)
That air-cooling fan on top of the rotor needs an inlet. It is generating a low pressure area between it and the plexi cover. It could pull the cover down into contact with the spinning fan at high speeds. Venting the face of the fan where it mounts to the rotor could be an excellent option to promote cooling, or sucking debris into your rotor.
Thinking a little deeper, if you added a filtered fresh air intake for the rotor compartment, this could be used to maintain a positive pressure in that compartment to aid in water evacuation and drying.
The reason why it spins up when you put the lid on: Because the lid is so close to the Turbine's Top, it can't pull enough Air through the Fan Blades (less Air-Friction) - this is why it spins up. When you open the Lid, it can move more Air and has more Air-Friction. You can test this with every Fan. The same happens, when you block the Air-Intake of your vacuum cleaner.
And for that matter it is bad for the cooling. The manufacturer attached the fan for a reason. It is obviously to cool the windings. But without (fresh) airflow around em it will probably burn out the windings on high load.
@@casemodder89 I think the size of the fan is probably overkill for where he lives especially in winter I do get your point though if it was me I'd do some heat tests with the fan and with out and push my look with as little as possible
In addition to no air flow through the turbine fan with the lid closed and the lack of cooling on the windings, the thrust load on the bearings may be insufficient and result in skidding which will reduce expected life.
I concur, the lid is too close to the fan to allow air to circulate properly; it spins up with the air closed off the same way a vacuum cleaner spins up higher when you seal the hose with your hand.
@@workbenchz I was going to disagree, but went back to see that the fan doesn't actually pull air through the alternator. It looks like it's meant to have a pipe coming in from above pull air through the chaimber. He might want to put a u channel upside down with an air filter and shroud over it.
the fan on the rotor is slowing it down when you open it because now it can move air, with the lid closed the fan blows most of the air to the outside causing a vacuum near the center thus nothing to cause drag
@@LandtoHouse Yes , the flowing water can cool the turbine very efficient, if there is enough heat transfer between the metal housing and the coils (I suppose the air flow should cool the copper wire in the coils). But why Spencer Langston then has added this fan? I guess you should ask him what current the coils can handle without that additional fan cooling. Probably you are way below that critical current. Otherwise, you can drill a hole with your hole saw into the Plexiglas lid in the center of the turbine/fan.
Just a quick comment. If you install a pvc Y on the drain close to the top. The outlet should facing up hill. On the outlet install a piece of pipe at the hi water level. This will let air into the drain for a much faster flow.
I really like how you can manually fix the stuff. So many things are built to be impossible to fix yourself. It's why Varg opted for an UAZ instead of some fancy new car, because even though he's far away from other people, he could still fix the thing himself, no problem.
I have been watching all the way from the Cayman Islands here in the Caribbean. Loving all your videos I am learning a few stuff to do a project myself. I have one of that pelton generator and honestly it worth every Penny pushing a lot of voltage and amps.
The alternator looked very corroded. I think as much as the design is good it isn't great. Keeping the wet and dry areas completely seperate is so important for the reliability and longevity of the unit. I don't think you're there yet. Great project though.
@@LandtoHouse RTV gasket ought to do it! It'll also fill the imperfections from that thin metal box, as it'll surely want to bend with anything between it and the generator.
@@LandtoHouse Also the enclosure needs to be weather proof in terms of moisture. There's a lot of mist (humidity) around there so that will effect it. I was thinking how about a Peltier Heater that runs off 12V drying out the air in the upper chamber. Cheap on eBay. Just a thought.
You're definitely choking the fan with that lid closed, which is going to heat up your turbine. You're also going to create issues by putting foam under the housing. You need to cut some vent holes into the catchment box underneath the turbine before making a seal for the turbine housing. It's going to vapor lock.
you can see here 9:03 the new one has the same issue a too small white cabel without much protection you have to remove with a bigger one. it's too loud for the moles/molles you have to use thick walls for the box as soundproofing
I would recommend some kind of vent on the side of the housing to help with ventilation, as the turbine is going to throw off some heat when it's producing a lot of power. If the housing is just left the way it is, the fan will just recirculate the air within the housing and it'll heat up fast. Other than that, everything looks amazing, keep up the great work!
Your very correct, Jim! There needs to be free air flow to keep it cool. Closed in like it is now there will likely be insufficient cooling. The greater the load the more important cooling will be. That is a squirrel cage blower blade on top of that turbine. The air flow is being drawn from below around the gap where the wiring goes under, up through the coils, out the top and outward from that spinning blade. There will be diminished cooling performance if that turbine is closed in like it is from outside air. Under full load the coils of the stater will get hot and that blade is what moves the air past the coils to remove that heat. (Out the top). I wouldn't have that closed up like you have it now when it's running. The unit needs outside air for cooling. cheers.
Love the video and thanks for sharing. Really neat to use the acrylic to see it in action. For cooling, I'd suggest cutting a circle out of the lid the same size as the rotor, add a bit of riser to that with filters for fresh air to enter, and then a flat bit of acrylic on top to shed rain water but still see inside. The second advantage is that it will not only suck air in through these top filters to cool the PMA, it will also blow air out the leaks around the bottom and push any water out as well (positive overpressure).
When your lid is down it restricts the air flow into the cooling squirrel cage intake fan. Same principle is if you put you hand over the suction on a vacuum cleaner hose. The labor to move air is removed and it speeds up. Eventually the vacuum cleaner motor will overheat and meltdown. My advice is increase the distance for air to circulate so your dynamo will run cooler.
Adding more of this cells in series may cause out of balance for one cell. I would recommend to disable your inverters and give the system a full charge. Check if any of the cells exceed it's 14,4 Volts. If yes, disconnect them all. parallel them all until current stops to flow. I would recommend to check at Aliexpress for a lead acid battery balancer. They are available for 2 or more cells. you can use multiple 2 cells balancer to balance your system. It will give more security in aspect to over-voltage. Anyways, great job done. I like to follow your projects. Continue in this way
Money is on cracked varnish and moisture, it has been conducting to other phases and chewed copper away. Insufficient space between lid and the fan. Lid closed limits airflow to fan thus less drag and spins up.
I always though all the 90° bends eat up power. Personally i'd go with a doublesided nozzel input blasting at 180° to the wheel. Split incoming pipe with 45° Y-piece and plumb it with 3 following 45° ellbows to the nozzles. Shaped just like a stetoscope.
It should be fine if there's limited flow rate in the pipes. The bigger your pipes the better, and those pipes are a lot thicker than the nozzle so while there will be some loss it probably isn't too bad.
To modify your dowel to suit, simply drill the size you need with a drill bit into a metal plate. Once done, place your existing dowel into the chuck on the drill and run it through the hole you made in the metal plate, it will bring it down to the size you need.
I'm planing this one. But my prolem is the flowing river into my house is 300meters away. do you think it is possible to make like a generator in 300 meters away from my house? and what cable do I use? thank you. I'm hoping that you'll answer my question.
15:45 the fan on top is shoveling more air when the lid is open, as it is almost touching the fan when closed. It's like a vacuum cleaner shutting the inlet and then open it again.
I love the terms you use for cable and your connections. In 🇬🇧 We call the grey cables twin and earth and I am glad you used the conduit because if it is like our cable rodents and your dog could chew through it. The screw connectors were never that popular in 🇬🇧 and classed as unsafe/ not the best method of joining cables. Especially if the conductors were different type like stranded and solid core. We would use steel armoured for that type of run with appropriate mm conductor, what you would call gauge i think for the voltage drop and we would have the appropriate gland type for the final termination. An isolation means near the power source and at the property would also be required. The video is great though, I am finding them very interesting so please keep it up. Ps you are a little like me in that you make a mock up then think and find ways to improve it/ make it look or perform better
What if you had all that water coming out go into a tank, then a small pump to take it back to the top and allow it to again power the generator? If you have excess power it should pump most if the water back up and allow you to reuse water. It would only allow for excess power but may be a little extra water when needed or use a windmill to pump water back to the top tank.
I'd remove the fan from the PMA, it's not needed where you are and with all that water flowing. If you were worried about heat you could run a small fan on a temp switch. Currently that fan is just wasting power.
Can you use smaller delivery pipe than intake on ram pump for higher output pressure? For example 2 inch intake big pressure chamber and 1/2 output? Our necked down delivery from 1 inch to half
15:35 it slows down because the black bit of the turbine motor is a cooling fan and your lid is so close that it blocks the airflow - exactly like putting your hand over a vacuum cleaner nozzle makes the vacuum motor run faster... :)
As Marv65 said, stainless hardware. I would use stainless for all the bolts and use anti seize as well. Makes for a much easier dis-assembly later. Also under full load the air in that box is going to heat up. I'd add some screened louvers to the sides.
15:30 because that cooling fan is so close against the lid, it creats a low presure -> lower density of air --> less air mass --> less air mass to move. it can easily be recreated with a vacum cleaner, block the suction, the fan rpm of the vacuum cleaners goes up, and it is not that the vacuum sents more power to the motor.
@landtohouse - wouldnt it be easier to add a electronic flow meter, and motor-controlled valves? that way you can automate turning on and off the valves, and have auto-shutoff in the event of a emergency?
Excelente idea, actualmente ya tenemos que usar bombas perifericas para poder llenar el tinaco de la red de agua potable, voy a implementar ese generador despues de la bomba periferica para recuperar algo de la energia invertida y almacenarla en baterias, para usarlas en la iluminacion que es la que consume menos energia. Saoudos desde Torreón, Coahuila, México.
I have to ask. I've also seen videos of you letting your ram pump freeze and break. Why not set things up so that you can take the water out of things at the beginning of cold weather? Otherwise it kind of seems like a big cost in time and money. Great videos!
Please drill a 7/8” whole and put you an outside electrical box on the outside of your box and get the wires out of there before you fry this unit or worse yourself. If you haven’t heard yet water and electricity don’t mix well especially when you are in the mix
i would redo design of it that way have vent on top suck air in n vent out bottom to tank under it or dryer vent on both side to keep motor cooler in summer i dont like way u have wire outside i would recommend putting it in steel pipe from box outside thur wall inside motor housing to save urself a headache from rat chewing wires awesome u got uupgraded motors with fan keep it cool without being burn out
Just caught your series, what you're doing is amazing! Have you considered a more technological approach to the monitoring of the system? In terms of digital pressure monitoring and perhaps even valves opening/closing at the wheel when certain pressures are reached? probably even remote control connectivity?
@ :46 I already know the problem....the varnish on the coil wire has melted or chipped off and is shorting 2 things you can do 1) try to drizzle varnish or whatever they use on those wire, onto the coils and hope it penetrates 2) get another generator and as someone else pointed out in another comment...you need air flow so the cooling fan on top can cool the coils
15:32 Maybe because by opening the lid more air could enter and because of that the fins (or whatever they are called) could push more air? I have no idea if I'm right but I thought I might aswell share my thoughts.
It is fun to run the turbine at absurd speed without load. You should configure one of the 2 classic 150 outputs in electrical load shunt and apply a dissipation resistor after a static relay capable of dissipating all the maximum power produced by the turbine, this is needed in case of charged batteries and lack of current for the grid. connected, or in case you do not absorb anything at home because for example on vacation, it allows you to maintain a constant load by stabilizing the voltage, now what happens if the power supply goes off and the batteries are charged? It would also be useful to have some external ventilation so as not to allow the humidity to stagnate in the alternator. Ciao
Is this thing truly ever can produce 400w or it is designed to go up to 400w? I am interested to buy it for my small home and run everything on this turbine, unnecessary I would like to spent $$$ for something what just can't achieve my needs. We don't have enough sun at the property so I can't use solar power for backup. Please let me know i will appreciate, thank you. P.s. I have 30+ waterfall on my property.
Whenever I open up my water to 100% I've seen 500 W on this turbine. I just don't have sufficient Waterflow to produce lots of power. The simple calculation for hydrophower is: (Head pressure in Feet X gpm)/10=power If you have a 30' waterfall and 200 gallons per minute flowing over that you could produce 600 w
@@LandtoHouse sorry for bothering you, will this thing produce enough amps to run my miniature home, water heater, range, light etc. Thank you so much for your help. Ps. I can send you a picture of waterfall.
I find those stupid taps break after a bit. I have one on a rainwater storage tank and the handle snapped off when I tried to open the faucet. Now I have a multi grip plyers on it to turn it because I can't remove it to replace it..being the water tank is never empty and I can't afford to dump the contents.
You could block the hole with a rubber ball from the inside if you have access through the top... might not stop every last drop, but it should do the trick to change it out...
Seth, can you please post an update of your Micro Hydro? Was it running during the summer and is it operating flawless? Do you plan to let it run during winter? Remember, you are bad at winterizing. ;-)
Sorry brother I don't mean to rant it's just that once you've been electrocuted once or twice the thought of having a electrical turbine getting wet just freaks me out a little k Thanks for the videos Take care and God bless you and your's Just saying
Thats Cool ,& We started Using These ELECTRONIC REPELANT & THEY Seem To Work Real Good, & it Only Has The Name Electronic Repeal and on It & Nothing Else , I Think It Puts Out A High Pitch Sound They Don't Like A Neighbor Moved & Took His Shed After About 9 years & There Were We Think Hundreds of Them & They Went To All The Neigbors & We think Thats What Got Rid of ThemYou Just Plug It in to A Plug & Forget Them & They Were Really Cheep
Ok , brotha i scrolled through, got to this point ,i could have asked a million questions but if i keep watching .. my questions are always awnsers, so my comment is , i cant stand that 2 inch ball valve lol
Sounds like your parents passed on the age old parental curse: "You were such a sweet young innocent child, I hope all your children turn out just like you..."🤣 It slowed down on air-flow... The lid is close enough that you know longer have air-flow for the fan on top of the generator.
hello, I use same kind of alternator on my pelton turbine, but a high voltage one. 89 psi, up to 70 GPM. I can produce up to 1000W. I have video in my YT chanel. (in french )
Good idea, poorly designed. I would work on sealing the wire and motor from water/moisture before it gets corroded. Also, need a small vent in the top to vent air in. Not having a vent creates negative pressure and will build heat. Research how other water/electric turbines are housed to seal and get better ventilation to make sure it will last longer! It will corrode super fast if ran like it is. You could pull the turbine off, make an insulation panel, cut a hole for the shaft and place it over the wires and seal around edges, and put the shaft back on to keep moisture out.
Your lower box is way too small and your piping should be below the turbine enclosure Water + electricity = ☠☠☠☠☠☠☠ 😖😖😖😖😖😖😖 Is a bad idea Your turbine needs to be isolated from everything and it needs to have ventilation to allow the turbine to cool down Hope this helps you out brother Just saying
Cats aren't everywhere all the time... He should invest in laser beams... When they step on the cover and put weight on the switch, they'll get toasted crispy... and you can feed that to your cat...
Caulking silicon to seal it? Shame you cant run more, wind turbines and water wheel washing machine next as well as auto compost and a wall or moat and youll be zombie ready.
Please check out marty T on RUclips I think you will be really happy you did K hope this helps you it helped me a lot with my power supply off grid Just saying
seven wonders of the world #1 GOD,, I don’t know why he bothered sending his only begotten son to suffer for the sins of humankind..? #2 LOVE No one can control this. No one can truly explain this. It is a power even the angels in heaven would give a great deal to know more about. (In the Holy Spirit) #3 MUSIC. A power able to transcend time and space itself. It can take one forward in the minds eye. You had it always takes one back to the memories of when one first enjoyed it. #4 WATER. An inner Spring of perpetual waters. Without it all life dies. King David knew of evaporation and how it creates rain. and hydraulics in the states of water help us understand expansions of space and time. #5 SPACE & TIME Infinity is a flat chord time, with a half twist in the form of an eight. Space is the line that needs itself in the inner section the pin never leaves the strap one line meets itself. #6 GRAVITY. Strange force. The sun pulls the planets through space spiraling behind it at how many thousands of miles per hour? And the Milky Way is pulled along by a black hole? #7. LIGHT. God spoke to the chaos of darkness. “ let there be LIGHT”. Earth would die without it. It is not a particle, Northern energy, but a wave. Like ice, it does not absorb energy, it releases it. Photons
Have you seen this 500+ Watts Micro Hydro install?
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I appreciate that. this channel definitely started off strange but has found a good rhythm now
Can you please add a backup hole there?
Search for vacuum pump or something in RUclips and refit something so the chamber can have at least some vacuum!
@@DrawdeThePotato That's funny.
@@LandtoHouse hey Seth the reason your micro hydro turbine slowed down a little is when you open the lid there's good air flow which the squirrel cage blower attachment creates drag to keep the turbine from over working and burning up plus if there NO air movement it may burn up or it's performance will be greatly reduced due to lack of air resistance.
I love that the kids are there. Being a father myself, this is exactly how I end up working. 😁
I really think the kids add a bit of humor to your vids. They make me smile and sometimes laugh when they make an appearance. They are at such a fun age, enjoy them. And they do seem to get along just as one would expect for their ages.
They actually do get along really well! Playing in the mud is their favorite thing to do.
@@LandtoHouse - And that's cool that you allow them to do that. Many of today's parents would be horrified to allow their little ones to be exposed to all that dirt and germs! Heaven forbid! Yet we played in mud when we were kids and we turned out OK (I think!). Humans need exposure to life's experiences to grow a good immune system! Great work with the hydro, too. I'd have been tempted to give the steel box some love in terms of wire-wheeling, priming and painting. I wouldn't want corrosion getting a hold there and rusting away the big holes for the nozzles. Did Mr. Langston ever give you a postmortem on the old unit as to the failure point? (please forgive me if I haven't read it yet in past messages)
That air-cooling fan on top of the rotor needs an inlet. It is generating a low pressure area between it and the plexi cover. It could pull the cover down into contact with the spinning fan at high speeds. Venting the face of the fan where it mounts to the rotor could be an excellent option to promote cooling, or sucking debris into your rotor.
Thinking a little deeper, if you added a filtered fresh air intake for the rotor compartment, this could be used to maintain a positive pressure in that compartment to aid in water evacuation and drying.
Now it's up and running 👏👏
Thanks for sharing
The best part was the kid crying huging dad! =)
The reason why it spins up when you put the lid on: Because the lid is so close to the Turbine's Top, it can't pull enough Air through the Fan Blades (less Air-Friction) - this is why it spins up. When you open the Lid, it can move more Air and has more Air-Friction. You can test this with every Fan. The same happens, when you block the Air-Intake of your vacuum cleaner.
And for that matter it is bad for the cooling.
The manufacturer attached the fan for a reason. It is obviously to cool the windings. But without (fresh) airflow around em it will probably burn out the windings on high load.
@@casemodder89 I think the size of the fan is probably overkill for where he lives especially in winter I do get your point though if it was me I'd do some heat tests with the fan and with out and push my look with as little as possible
In addition to no air flow through the turbine fan with the lid closed and the lack of cooling on the windings, the thrust load on the bearings may be insufficient and result in skidding which will reduce expected life.
I concur, the lid is too close to the fan to allow air to circulate properly; it spins up with the air closed off the same way a vacuum cleaner spins up higher when you seal the hose with your hand.
@@workbenchz I was going to disagree, but went back to see that the fan doesn't actually pull air through the alternator. It looks like it's meant to have a pipe coming in from above pull air through the chaimber. He might want to put a u channel upside down with an air filter and shroud over it.
the fan on the rotor is slowing it down when you open it because now it can move air, with the lid closed the fan blows most of the air to the outside causing a vacuum near the center thus nothing to cause drag
Exactly this I was thinking too. This might lead to a lack of cooling!??
Interesting! Makes sense. Being in the shade and 50 degree water should keep it cool.
Perhaps being in the shade will keep it cool.
yes. It kills the purpose of the turbine. The airflow in that housing should be managed dynamically somehow.
@@LandtoHouse Yes , the flowing water can cool the turbine very efficient, if there is enough heat transfer between the metal housing and the coils (I suppose the air flow should cool the copper wire in the coils). But why Spencer Langston then has added this fan? I guess you should ask him what current the coils can handle without that additional fan cooling. Probably you are way below that critical current. Otherwise, you can drill a hole with your hole saw into the Plexiglas lid in the center of the turbine/fan.
Just a quick comment. If you install a pvc Y on the drain close to the top. The outlet should facing up hill. On the outlet install a piece of pipe at the hi water level. This will let air into the drain for a much faster flow.
I really like how you can manually fix the stuff. So many things are built to be impossible to fix yourself. It's why Varg opted for an UAZ instead of some fancy new car, because even though he's far away from other people, he could still fix the thing himself, no problem.
I have been watching all the way from the Cayman Islands here in the Caribbean. Loving all your videos I am learning a few stuff to do a project myself. I have one of that pelton generator and honestly it worth every Penny pushing a lot of voltage and amps.
Thank you for being part of the channel. These Pelton units are great! With enough head pressure and flow they can power a house.
The alternator looked very corroded. I think as much as the design is good it isn't great. Keeping the wet and dry areas completely seperate is so important for the reliability and longevity of the unit. I don't think you're there yet. Great project though.
I will place a rubber gasket in there to stop that water. The good news is if this design fails I can bring more hydro content to youtube.
@@LandtoHouse RTV gasket ought to do it! It'll also fill the imperfections from that thin metal box, as it'll surely want to bend with anything between it and the generator.
@@LandtoHouse Also the enclosure needs to be weather proof in terms of moisture. There's a lot of mist (humidity) around there so that will effect it. I was thinking how about a Peltier Heater that runs off 12V drying out the air in the upper chamber. Cheap on eBay. Just a thought.
You're definitely choking the fan with that lid closed, which is going to heat up your turbine. You're also going to create issues by putting foam under the housing. You need to cut some vent holes into the catchment box underneath the turbine before making a seal for the turbine housing. It's going to vapor lock.
you can see here 9:03 the new one has the same issue a too small white cabel without much protection you have to remove with a bigger one. it's too loud for the moles/molles you have to use thick walls for the box as soundproofing
I would recommend some kind of vent on the side of the housing to help with ventilation, as the turbine is going to throw off some heat when it's producing a lot of power. If the housing is just left the way it is, the fan will just recirculate the air within the housing and it'll heat up fast. Other than that, everything looks amazing, keep up the great work!
Your very correct, Jim! There needs to be free air flow to keep it cool. Closed in like it is now there will likely be insufficient cooling. The greater the load the more important cooling will be. That is a squirrel cage blower blade on top of that turbine. The air flow is being drawn from below around the gap where the wiring goes under, up through the coils, out the top and outward from that spinning blade. There will be diminished cooling performance if that turbine is closed in like it is from outside air.
Under full load the coils of the stater will get hot and that blade is what moves the air past the coils to remove that heat. (Out the top).
I wouldn't have that closed up like you have it now when it's running. The unit needs outside air for cooling. cheers.
the source of the leak problem is the increased pressure in the drain box. You can overcome this by drilling a vent or overflow hole in the drain box.
Love the video and thanks for sharing. Really neat to use the acrylic to see it in action.
For cooling, I'd suggest cutting a circle out of the lid the same size as the rotor, add a bit of riser to that with filters for fresh air to enter, and then a flat bit of acrylic on top to shed rain water but still see inside. The second advantage is that it will not only suck air in through these top filters to cool the PMA, it will also blow air out the leaks around the bottom and push any water out as well (positive overpressure).
When your lid is down it restricts the air flow into the cooling squirrel cage intake fan. Same principle is if you put you hand over the suction on a vacuum cleaner hose. The labor to move air is removed and it speeds up. Eventually the vacuum cleaner motor will overheat and meltdown.
My advice is increase the distance for air to circulate so your dynamo will run cooler.
Your top plastic cover is blocking the motor cooling fan intake, that is why it slows when you lift the lid with the fan load.
Adding more of this cells in series may cause out of balance for one cell. I would recommend to disable your inverters and give the system a full charge. Check if any of the cells exceed it's 14,4 Volts. If yes, disconnect them all. parallel them all until current stops to flow. I would recommend to check at Aliexpress for a lead acid battery balancer. They are available for 2 or more cells. you can use multiple 2 cells balancer to balance your system. It will give more security in aspect to over-voltage. Anyways, great job done. I like to follow your projects. Continue in this way
Money is on cracked varnish and moisture, it has been conducting to other phases and chewed copper away. Insufficient space between lid and the fan. Lid closed limits airflow to fan thus less drag and spins up.
looks alot better then it did for sure . the new unit looks like its a little bigger to . awesome stuff buddy .
dear sir grear job you done.
how many load (watt) we can run on this pelton wheel ?
I always though all the 90° bends eat up power.
Personally i'd go with a doublesided nozzel input blasting at 180° to the wheel.
Split incoming pipe with 45° Y-piece and plumb it with 3 following 45° ellbows to the nozzles. Shaped just like a stetoscope.
It should be fine if there's limited flow rate in the pipes. The bigger your pipes the better, and those pipes are a lot thicker than the nozzle so while there will be some loss it probably isn't too bad.
To modify your dowel to suit, simply drill the size you need with a drill bit into a metal plate. Once done, place your existing dowel into the chuck on the drill and run it through the hole you made in the metal plate, it will bring it down to the size you need.
You have powerz back!! :)
Have you though about changing the two inch main valve out to a Metal Ball valve. I have found the plastic valves can be sticky to open and close.
I'm planing this one. But my prolem is the flowing river into my house is 300meters away. do you think it is possible to make like a generator in 300 meters away from my house? and what cable do I use? thank you. I'm hoping that you'll answer my question.
You need a flinger under the impeller to stop the water from splashing up to the stator.
15:45 the fan on top is shoveling more air when the lid is open, as it is almost touching the fan when closed. It's like a vacuum cleaner shutting the inlet and then open it again.
I love the terms you use for cable and your connections. In 🇬🇧 We call the grey cables twin and earth and I am glad you used the conduit because if it is like our cable rodents and your dog could chew through it. The screw connectors were never that popular in 🇬🇧 and classed as unsafe/ not the best method of joining cables. Especially if the conductors were different type like stranded and solid core.
We would use steel armoured for that type of run with appropriate mm conductor, what you would call gauge i think for the voltage drop and we would have the appropriate gland type for the final termination. An isolation means near the power source and at the property would also be required.
The video is great though, I am finding them very interesting so please keep it up.
Ps you are a little like me in that you make a mock up then think and find ways to improve it/ make it look or perform better
What if you had all that water coming out go into a tank, then a small pump to take it back to the top and allow it to again power the generator? If you have excess power it should pump most if the water back up and allow you to reuse water. It would only allow for excess power but may be a little extra water when needed or use a windmill to pump water back to the top tank.
Really shouldn't have to say this: use stainless hardware in mounting the unit to the housing.
id have welded legs and opening sides to the box it comes with and made a funnel style outlet
I'd remove the fan from the PMA, it's not needed where you are and with all that water flowing. If you were worried about heat you could run a small fan on a temp switch. Currently that fan is just wasting power.
Can you use smaller delivery pipe than intake on ram pump for higher output pressure? For example 2 inch intake big pressure chamber and 1/2 output? Our necked down delivery from 1 inch to half
Is that the basic principle of the micro hydro? Cant remember if it has a ramp pump on it.
Are you using a ram pump to get that pressure up?
That excess water dripping/leaking should be dealt with somehow, no?
15:35 it slows down because the black bit of the turbine motor is a cooling fan and your lid is so close that it blocks the airflow - exactly like putting your hand over a vacuum cleaner nozzle makes the vacuum motor run faster... :)
As Marv65 said, stainless hardware. I would use stainless for all the bolts and use anti seize as well. Makes for a much easier dis-assembly later. Also under full load the air in that box is going to heat up. I'd add some screened louvers to the sides.
15:30 because that cooling fan is so close against the lid, it creats a low presure -> lower density of air --> less air mass --> less air mass to move.
it can easily be recreated with a vacum cleaner, block the suction, the fan rpm of the vacuum cleaners goes up, and it is not that the vacuum sents more power to the motor.
You should cover the pipes with insulation, Before cold weather.....
Yes. The problem is that the pipes are 1100 feet long.
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Please - remember to isolate the cables (the 3 black wires) before you spin up the generator. If they touch you will have a short circuit..
@landtohouse - wouldnt it be easier to add a electronic flow meter, and motor-controlled valves? that way you can automate turning on and off the valves, and have auto-shutoff in the event of a emergency?
Perhaps we will get there. So far this testing has been fun and.getting the housing right has been a priority.
Excelente idea, actualmente ya tenemos que usar bombas perifericas para poder llenar el tinaco de la red de agua potable, voy a implementar ese generador despues de la bomba periferica para recuperar algo de la energia invertida y almacenarla en baterias, para usarlas en la iluminacion que es la que consume menos energia. Saoudos desde Torreón, Coahuila, México.
With winter flow and winter power consumption you could run two turbines into two charge controllers.
Got your hands full, bro
I have to ask. I've also seen videos of you letting your ram pump freeze and break. Why not set things up so that you can take the water out of things at the beginning of cold weather? Otherwise it kind of seems like a big cost in time and money. Great videos!
When you cover a squirrel cage fan it stops pumping. When you open the lid the fan starts to cool again loading the system
Please drill a 7/8” whole and put you an outside electrical box on the outside of your box and get the wires out of there before you fry this unit or worse yourself. If you haven’t heard yet water and electricity don’t mix well especially when you are in the mix
Would you look at automating the valve opening and closing? Could use some simple IOT stuff to do so.
Could also include some flow rate sensors etc
i would redo design of it that way have vent on top suck air in n vent out bottom to tank under it or dryer vent on both side to keep motor cooler in summer
i dont like way u have wire outside i would recommend putting it in steel pipe from box outside thur wall inside motor housing to save urself a headache from rat chewing wires
awesome u got uupgraded motors with fan keep it cool without being burn out
you need ventalation or it will overheat thats why when you open the lid its slow down because is grabbing airflow
Just caught your series, what you're doing is amazing! Have you considered a more technological approach to the monitoring of the system? In terms of digital pressure monitoring and perhaps even valves opening/closing at the wheel when certain pressures are reached? probably even remote control connectivity?
I think u should use metal pipe to keep wires between PMA and wire cable pipes from mice a gain
What happens if you put a 6-foot pipe as your RAM pump pressure tank inside of the 3-foot one that you have their 2-foot
@ :46 I already know the problem....the varnish on the coil wire has melted or chipped off and is shorting
2 things you can do
1) try to drizzle varnish or whatever they use on those wire, onto the coils and hope it penetrates
2) get another generator
and as someone else pointed out in another comment...you need air flow so the cooling fan on top can cool the coils
15:40 in its the air flow from the cooling fans on the unit
Have you thought for your grid tied system using a salt Battery for your constant charge/discharge battery. It's safer
15:32 Maybe because by opening the lid more air could enter and because of that the fins (or whatever they are called) could push more air? I have no idea if I'm right but I thought I might aswell share my thoughts.
It is fun to run the turbine at absurd speed without load.
You should configure one of the 2 classic 150 outputs in electrical load shunt and apply a dissipation resistor after a static relay capable of dissipating all the maximum power produced by the turbine, this is needed in case of charged batteries and lack of current for the grid. connected, or in case you do not absorb anything at home because for example on vacation, it allows you to maintain a constant load by stabilizing the voltage, now what happens if the power supply goes off and the batteries are charged?
It would also be useful to have some external ventilation so as not to allow the humidity to stagnate in the alternator.
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Is this thing truly ever can produce 400w or it is designed to go up to 400w?
I am interested to buy it for my small home and run everything on this turbine, unnecessary I would like to spent $$$ for something what just can't achieve my needs. We don't have enough sun at the property so I can't use solar power for backup.
Please let me know i will appreciate, thank you.
P.s. I have 30+ waterfall on my property.
Whenever I open up my water to 100% I've seen 500 W on this turbine. I just don't have sufficient Waterflow to produce lots of power.
The simple calculation for hydrophower is:
(Head pressure in Feet X gpm)/10=power
If you have a 30' waterfall and 200 gallons per minute flowing over that you could produce 600 w
@@LandtoHouse sorry for bothering you, will this thing produce enough amps to run my miniature home, water heater, range, light etc.
Thank you so much for your help.
Ps. I can send you a picture of waterfall.
Mate your obstructing the airflow from your fan on top there with that lid.
I find those stupid taps break after a bit. I have one on a rainwater storage tank and the handle snapped off when I tried to open the faucet. Now I have a multi grip plyers on it to turn it because I can't remove it to replace it..being the water tank is never empty and I can't afford to dump the contents.
You could block the hole with a rubber ball from the inside if you have access through the top... might not stop every last drop, but it should do the trick to change it out...
@@MRGF78 I don't. It has a 5" inlet on the top. it's a 330 gal food grade tote. Probably used to hold olive oil or something like that.
Do you have a video on how you plumed the water to the turbine ?
I sure do. There's actually a 10 part series on installing this turbine
I'm gonna just go right ahead and ask: Don't you have a vice? xD
try adding gears to your generator because your water have a lot of torque
Seth, can you please post an update of your Micro Hydro? Was it running during the summer and is it operating flawless? Do you plan to let it run during winter? Remember, you are bad at winterizing. ;-)
Haha very bad at winterizing.
Yes update soon. I am hopefully going up the mtn tomorrow to work on the new coanda intake.
15:30 Its slowing down because of the fan's airflow being cut off when the lid is closed x3
if you had an insane number of ram pumps would it be possible to make an infinite loop hydro station
Why no stainless mount bolts
i bought some of those plastic ball valves years ago, they are crap, i only buy stainless steel ones now
9:58 you could have sand that rust off and spray-can them, to stop corrosion...
Hello! Where you buy turbine set?
Sorry brother I don't mean to rant it's just that once you've been electrocuted once or twice the thought of having a electrical turbine getting wet just freaks me out a little k
Thanks for the videos
Take care and God bless you and your's
Just saying
Yes I will be installing some waterproofing soon!
at 1:23, you may know that energy is Lost, at those Right-angle bends.!
Could have an open rotor, could be a lot of things
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dear sir run car alternator on pelton wheel. Car alternator have 12 Volt DC and 90 Amp.
12 Dc X 90 Amp = 1080 Watt
Ok , brotha i scrolled through, got to this point ,i could have asked a million questions but if i keep watching .. my questions are always awnsers, so my comment is , i cant stand that 2 inch ball valve lol
Dude! Use wire nuts on the exposed wires otherwise, you'll fry it again! :)
Sounds like your parents passed on the age old parental curse:
"You were such a sweet young innocent child, I hope all your children turn out just like you..."🤣
It slowed down on air-flow... The lid is close enough that you know longer have air-flow for the fan on top of the generator.
Why don’t you cap the wires while testing? Wires unprotected outside can still get chewed. Not by mice, but rabbits like them too!
Cooling fan slowed it down!
hello, I use same kind of alternator on my pelton turbine, but a high voltage one. 89 psi, up to 70 GPM. I can produce up to 1000W. I have video in my YT chanel. (in french )
Ha maybe you'll realize why it slows down when you open the lid after you fry that stator.
It should stay mostly cool in there. But... we will see.
@@LandtoHouse awesome Bud nice work! Can't wait to see more
You need to work smarter. Get some clamps and straps for the workbench.. 👍
Yes I want to try dogs. The holes and pegs with holding clamps built in.
@@LandtoHouse also get a main shutoff valve that's easier to turn and less prone to causing pressure spikes when operated too jerky
Good idea, poorly designed. I would work on sealing the wire and motor from water/moisture before it gets corroded. Also, need a small vent in the top to vent air in. Not having a vent creates negative pressure and will build heat. Research how other water/electric turbines are housed to seal and get better ventilation to make sure it will last longer! It will corrode super fast if ran like it is. You could pull the turbine off, make an insulation panel, cut a hole for the shaft and place it over the wires and seal around edges, and put the shaft back on to keep moisture out.
Solder. Sol-der.
Not 'sodder'
Your lower box is way too small and your piping should be below the turbine enclosure
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Is a bad idea
Your turbine needs to be isolated from everything and it needs to have ventilation to allow the turbine to cool down
Hope this helps you out brother
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your camera loves to be out of focus lol
You should see what that camera looks like. It has been through a lot. Drops, rain, sawdust, the rubber grip is almost off.
He is not the sharpest knife in the drawer
I can't watch channels like this, the lack of training is comedy.
Langston Alternative power looks equally comedic.
Why don't you invest in a 🐱 cat? Would save you a lot of similar problems in the future.
Cats aren't everywhere all the time...
He should invest in laser beams...
When they step on the cover and put weight on the switch, they'll get toasted crispy... and you can feed that to your cat...
Caulking silicon to seal it? Shame you cant run more, wind turbines and water wheel washing machine next as well as auto compost and a wall or moat and youll be zombie ready.
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first view
Technically I was the first view.
Thank you for being consistent haha
@@LandtoHouse I think your right :)
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seven wonders of the world
#1 GOD,, I don’t know why he bothered sending his only begotten son to suffer for the sins of humankind..?
#2 LOVE No one can control this. No one can truly explain this. It is a power even the angels in heaven would give a great deal to know more about. (In the Holy Spirit)
#3 MUSIC. A power able to transcend time and space itself. It can take one forward in the minds eye. You had it always takes one back to the memories of when one first enjoyed it.
#4 WATER. An inner Spring of perpetual waters. Without it all life dies. King David knew of evaporation and how it creates rain. and hydraulics in the states of water help us understand expansions of space and time.
#5 SPACE & TIME Infinity is a flat chord time, with a half twist in the form of an eight. Space is the line that needs itself in the inner section the pin never leaves the strap one line meets itself.
#6 GRAVITY. Strange force. The sun pulls the planets through space spiraling behind it at how many thousands of miles per hour? And the Milky Way is pulled along by a black hole?
#7. LIGHT. God spoke to the chaos of darkness. “ let there be LIGHT”. Earth would die without it. It is not a particle, Northern energy, but a wave. Like ice, it does not absorb energy, it releases it. Photons