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When Kara said she wanted to sit across from her captor in the courtroom and for him to know "choosing me was the biggest mistake he ever made"... chills! That was so powerful!
The fact that people tell Natalia that her kidnapping “wasn’t real” because it was her dad, is absolute bs! 9/10 times the kidnapper is a family member or friend of the family. There are SO many cases where kids get kidnapped by a parent, and it does not make it any less traumatic.
we aren't talking about a family member. we are talking about a parent. Natalia didn't know she was "kidnapped". She thought she was spending the day with her dad. i understand people's logic in thinking this is not a real kdnapping
Nothing that infuriates more then missing teens or children being labelled as a "runaway". There should always be an Amber alert for all missing children and teens . Kara, your a absolute legend .
@@drm.himself yet how many times have police labeled kids runaways only for them to be found dead later. It shouldn’t matter if the kid is stupid or troubled labeling them runaways makes the police culpable in their deaths.
Even if they ARE a runaway does it really hurt to mark them as an Amber alert/missing child? Catching the people who are actually missing or kidnapped is 1000 times worth the few actual runaways being Amber alerted
im confused with her story, maybe i missed something but it sounded like she went to an amusement park w her dad and he got arrested for it? now she wants him to be in jail for life? idk she seems dramatic and doesnt really belong here lol
@@marakahl Taking a child you don't have custody of forcefully is very much considered kidnapping. Especially considering her dad was emotionally unstable, breaking things, and said he was going to "take them to heaven", something really bad could have definitely happened. Experiences like hers can also cause emotional rifts and can be incredibly scary for a child. Your comment is actually so disrespectful like what?????
Mad respect to Kara for remembering so many miniscule details about her kidnapper. The hairbrush and the doctor/dentist info was incredible. Certified BAMF
Idk a lot about it but an adrenaline rush can increase your senses and makes it easier to process information. Maybe that’s how she memorized so much stuff.
@@indigoselinger1640 You're correct, your senses do increase- I was more impressed on what details were being cataloged- I would have never thought to pay attention to things like hair color in hairbrushes and names of doctors if I was in that situation
Shout out to the little girl in my town who fended off a kidnapper and rubbed the slime she'd been playing with all over his arm because she learned from Olivia Benson to mark attackers if you can so they can be found later. That's exactly what happened, the slime helped nail her kidnapper later when they tracked his car down.
@@jihyodestroyer that shit does not come out of cloth, if he didn’t throw away the shirt or whatever it would absolutely still be there. maybe it was even the same day and he still had it on
Kara not only saved her own life, she potentially saved other victims and she brought closure to the families of those three girls. Kara you are the reason those murder cases were solved. What a smart, brave, and strong woman you are. To think you were only 15 at the time!
At 15 years old Kara is one of the most incredibly intelligent teens ive ever heard of. In that situation she kept herself calm cool and collected. She saved her OWN life. Absolutely an incredible story.
I would’ve killed him with no second thoughts If I knew anyone defenseless was kidnapped. And yet, I wouldn’t be satisfied so I would try of other ways like torture but I still wouldn’t feel achievement. That’s because she has been assaulted already. If I killed him before that happened then my mind would feel relished. Excuse my detailed thoughts expressed in this comment… have a blessed life.
It really bothers me that people actually think that a kidnapping isn’t a kidnapping when it’s the parent. A few years ago on my area in Valentine’s Day, which also happened to be the little girls birthday, her father didn’t return her to her mother when he was supposed to and by the time they found them, the child had passed and he attempted his own life kilometres away. RIP Riya.
Two kids from my hometown were taken by their father in the middle of a nasty divorce and killed them both, just to hurt the mother. It took years to find the bodies, the father refused to say where they were or what had really happened. Kidnapping by a parent absolutely does count and can be devastating.
@@ShyAnn291 things like this are actually almost always done by family or family friends. Any harm you could commit to a child is most accessible by the people they're *allowed* to be alone with, so that's where it happens the most. It's such a sad perversion of trust :( It's why I never accept the excuse that 'but he's their dad' or 'I've known x all my life, they can take care of my kid.' If someone doesn't seem trustworthy to me, I will not let them watch a kid. This extends past the worst case scenario to things like simple responsibility. Sure, x might not intentionally hurt them, but what if the kid waddles out the door while that person is catatonically high on the couch or something? People are far too blasé about our most helpless because they don't want to unintentionally insult anyone
@@dragonsrule20201 Thank you for writing this, its has put words to the reservations I have towards family watching my daughter. My grandma, who raised my dad and took care of my sisters and I very often, is now much less able bodied than she used to be. I know she can tell I don't want her to watch my daughter and I feel bad, but it's absolutely not worth risking my daughters safety.
@@worldsbiggestholdthegirlfan I would’ve forgotten that I was brought in a container 😩 I was in awe at her ability to be collected and memorise all those details!
THIS is how you do true crime. With the victim's willingness AND input. A chance for them to tell THEIR story about THEIR trauma, instead of using their trauma to tell your own story. Obviously, you can't do this with every victim, so ask the family. If they say no, then it's a no.
There's a film called 'the girl who ascaped' which is based on Kara's story. It's a very good representation of her story if anyone was wondering. She's so extremely smart
My mum always taught me that you always listen to the kidnapper / the person who’s holding you at point and then when you have the chance , Always try to runaway
@@Ziz-The-Fox yep often in those types of situations your brain just put you into survival mode often can sometimes just shut off your emotions until you are somewhere safe to just read it all out so in that time you basically just become like a machine gathering as much as you can to survive
“I wanted him to know that choosing me was the biggest mistake he ever made and he was outsmarted by a 15 yo girl” What an amazing person, wow. She really was incredibly smart.
Tbh I think he already knew that without her saying. Cause he knows she got away and he knows the police are chasing him because of her cause who else could it be?
@@morganrakes4184 she probably wanted to say it to his face. Like how she was saying she wanted to sit across from him in court to be able to show him the result of his behaviour
@@arilexi Nah that is very understandable tho. Even if you strongly believe in your heart of hearts that they knew, it’s not always as satisfying as directly seeing such being proven by shoving it in their face. It’s definitely a satisfaction I wish she could have gotten as well.
Not enough people talking about how smart Kara was. Like, she knew almost exactly what to do at every point. I think if she didn’t treat her captor like that, maybe he would’ve been more aggressive. He was probably completely disarmed when she asked if there was anything she could do for him and that gave her such an advantage. Such a smart 15yo
Wow listening to Kara tell her story and how intelligent she was, how she was memorizing important details even at such a young age is SO incredible. So glad she escaped
"He sexualy asulted me..." You don't just get over that dude. They may seem calm but they might cry about it every night. These ppl are strong and brave for being able to handle this and not have a mental breakdown just thinking of it.
@@R4qayyah Yeah and at some point, trauma can become... "Casual". Like it's muted down. Bad to say for everyone of course, as I do relate to her on the sense of having more muted emotions overall. But still, handling trauma in a long while can and should make it even a bit easier to chew.
Nothing infuriates me more than when a criminal and/or predator shoots himself to take the easy way out. What absolute scumbags. Nothing but the upmost respect to all these people sharing their stories and speaking out. They're incredibly strong. ❤
@@d0ll.f3tish I wrote himself in this comment specifically because of the story shared in this video about the man who shot himself. But my statement still applies to all criminals who do it.
I really admire and appreciate how Anthony knows when to be certain ways. Like he was joking about the Joker with Natalia but he knows to be serious with Kara
The whole video I just kept being blown away by how smart Kara is/was..especially so young..the strength and brains it must have taken to do what she did…wow
These survivors have shown remarkable resilience. Their stories are truly inspiring, and they've fearlessly brought them to light. Huge respect to them and Anthony for spotlighting these crucial topics. By the way, have you heard about that park kidnapping? Absolutely mind-blowing!
As soon as Kara said front yard I knew exactly who she was. I’ve heard her story 100 times and every time I am still in awe of her bravery, strength and intelligence.
The story Natalia told was very impactful to me due to being in a similar situation with my father when I was a kid - he had weekend custody and didn’t take me home, instead we went on a wild goose chase that lasted three days where we stayed at several different motels while he was in the throes of a schizophrenic delusion. It’s harrowing, but it’s nice to hear a story akin to mine that I can relate to. I hope i can recover like she did.
I have heard/read of Kara's story before. Always blew my mind. The way she said 'he sexually assaulted me multiple times' was so factual it's heartbreaking. She has overcome such a horrifying situation and come out a strong, well-spoken woman who would be the inspiration for so many people.
She says that he did that multiple times, and then also says he "wasn't violent with her". Just goes to show how that kind of stress can affect the victim's perception of the captor, even after such a short amount of time.
@@theharold5948 when she said he wasn't violent i thought "he literally held a gun to your neck" like? i get that stuff like this can mess with your mind but you just said this like ten minutes ago?
@@cassie3780You’re not understanding what she meant by violent. She is saying that through out the 18 hours she was kidnapped she wasn’t physically beaten at all. Yes she was sexually assaulted but she isn’t really categorizing that as violence. Based on what a kidnapper could’ve done to her, she’s saying that he actually treated better than she expected. That’s why she says he didn’t act violent with her.
I would've felt more inclined to believe my captor would kill me if he was violent in the sense of beating and physical violence, which was the context behind her response. Violence DID happen, but she was referring to a different kind.
Holy cow, Kara's ability to keep stone cold under pressure is so impressive to me. Her memorizing things is crazy. I would've panicked so hard. Respect 🙏
It's a survival mechanism, it's extremely draining afterwards with the sheer amount of energy your brain is using to think lightning-fast and try to search for every possible way out, but it does work. I wasn't in her situation but I've been in my own and I'm still shocked until this day of how it was to experience that mental state
I’ve always thought this as well until one day I was in a situation where my phone was dead and I needed to use my dad‘s phone but it had a passcode on it and somehow I knew his passcode. It was one of those pattern passcodes and I’ve seen him do it but never memorized it but the image was in the back of my brain memorized and so when I was in a state of major distress I instinctively put his passcode in without a thought.
People not believing you or saying it's not that bad compared to other experiences. That hurts. It still effects the person as much as it would anyone else. I had this happen where I was sexually assaulted by my boyfriend when I was 15. I wasn't believed because of my age and the fact that we were dating at the time. "Teenagers do that" "boys will be boys" that fucking hurts
You can't compare one person's trauma to another person's trauma. Whatever that person went through is almost always the worst thing to ever happen to them.
It does hurt. I was told by a female prosecutor at 15 that I didn't "say no the correct way" and that I didn't "fight back hard enough" even though I was an underweight 5 foot 14 year old and he was almost 6 feet tall and way stronger than me. It does feel awful. If you can, look for help in your area. Sliding pay scale or groups that specifically help women work through trauma. I found one online, have been referred to good trauma informed therapists and it helped me a lot. I wish you the best!
@@SmexyMinionyes I always say this even if it’s just about being sad about somthing because it still effects them even if what your going through is “worst”
I had a very similar experience to Natalia. My dad and his wife kidnapped me and my two younger siblings when I was 12. We were only technically kidnapped for 4 hours, but it was still traumatic. I really relate to Natalia when she says people don’t see her as a victim bc her kidnapper was her father.
It does not matter how long it lasted, it was traumatic for you, it could still be traumatic even if it was only for 10 minutes. People who care about how long you were in a bad situation like that, and think that matters for it to be traumatic, are wrong and are assuming something about something that they could not feel. Happy you got through it:)
i had a similar experience as well. my parents had seperated and my dad moved to texas with his wife. my brother (4) and i (2) traveled to texas with my dad to stay with him for the summer and he refused to return us back after summer was over to tennessee which is where we lived with our mom. my mom (who was pregnant 7 months pregnant with my little sister) ended up getting in a car with my aunt and drove 14 hours to get to us in houston, tx.
I hope you're doing better. People who say stuff like that are wrong and I hope you're happy and healthy despite trauma. You're beautiful and I support you
you’re so right and think about how long five minutes feels when you’re waiting for something to be over or to be done. She was in there for 18 HOURS. She is truly brave and it probably felt like three years to her. You never know what it’s like until you’re in that situation, so don’t downplay her trauma.
even 1 second in a serial killers presence is absolutely horrifying let alone litteral HOURS with someone that can end your life in mere seconds (who has done so to others before) thats terrifying, she is so lucky to have made it out alive im so thankful all of these beautiful people were able to escape these horrible situations. The fact that people are downplaying the situation is insane to me, i cant believe how disassociated people are with the situation
Her outlook on forgiveness is so insightful. We're all broken and I think it becomes easier to forgive others when we're able to see our own flaws and develop the sort of empathy that only comes from personal experience.
Here’s one for Natalia since I did one for Kara and the comment section is all about Kara. Natalia is so brave and she literally just was so amazing. She chose the good options and like kind of laughs it offs. It’s not like she was about angry or anything, she was actually kind of forgiving. “Forgiveness isn’t for the other person, it’s for you.” The most wise words I’ve heard her say this whole time.
Forgiveness is actually about BOTH the sinner and the sinnee. If we forgive them in Jesus' name, they are forgiven, said Jesus. If we forgive not, then their sins are not forgiven them, he added. This all comes with a catch: ""If ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father in heaven forgive you YOUR trespasses. But if ye forgive men their trespasses your Father in Heaven will also forgive you of YOUR trespasses."" How do we forgive best? With the help of Christ. When we remember all that God has forgiven us for, it is!much easier to forgive others. But those who claim to not need forgiveness will remain unforgiven by God.
The guy that took Kara killed my two friends in Fredericksburg, VA before her. They were sisters. Kristin and Katie Lisk. He killed a total of 3 girls in my hometown. I found out when I was older that he lived there for a while and met his wife there. That summer was terrifying and I am pretty sure me and my cousin almost ran into him near my school. They shut down all after school stuff and we had cerfews.
Holy absolute sh*t. I’m so so so grateful you’re here, and I have absolutely NO words to describe how genuinely heartbreaking it is to hear that your friends lost their lives to that freak. May you find peace and happiness ahead❤️
“Forgiveness isn’t for the other person. It’s for you.” I absolutely love this statement Natalia made. I’m not saying everyone should do it, but I know from my own experience that it can really heal and free you from what someone did to you.
You're right, not everyone should do it. Forgiveness doesn't help some people, it doesn't help a lot of people. As a trauma survivor forgiveness doesn't help me, it makes me angry and sad and like I want to punch the air out of frustration. Forgiveness only works to a point, the thing that helps is catharsis. Catharsis comes from many things, but it comes from closure which forgiveness can provide, but forgiveness can also just make you feel like catharsis is never in reach now. Everyone should try forgiveness, but if it doesn't help you don't feel like you're a worse person because you couldn't forgive. You don't need to forgive them, you need to find your catharsis and closure.
@@bye1551 I think it's more like you forgive yourself for not "doing enough" on trauma events. Like " If I hadn't done x y z things it wouldn't happened" mentality. So you forgive yourself, accept it happened way it did. That doesn't include forgiving the attacer ever.
I remember they made a movie about karas kidnapping called the girl who escaped. It was a beautiful movie and its cool how i can now see her tell her own story
My mom accidentally stopped a kidnapping. (Putting this into her pov) It was December 13th, 1987. Me and my friend Grace were going door to door in a nearby neighborhood, handing out Christmas mass panflets from our school. We heard a little boy yelling across the road, and we walked back onto the sidewalk to see what was happening. A man was trying to lift this eight year old boy from his front yard, and a large car/van was parked about 40 feet away. Me and my friend yelled at him, and I held my phone in the air, making sure that it was visible to him. Sure enough, he ran away and the boy ran back inside his home. I never went to that neighborhood again.
@@Someone-from-somewhere. lol I completely forgot that I commented this edit:but I am glad that you stopped that you probably save lots of trauma for that kid
I’ve heard Kara’s story before. As soon as I heard her mention the plastic container in the back seat I knew it. I remember hearing how she memorized the serial number on the container and I was mind blown. That one detail stuck with me because it’s truly amazing. Most people in that situation would not have the forethought to do that. And her quick thinking and bravery not only saved her own life but got answers for the families of three other young girls. This man’s other victims, if you don’t know, were 16 year old Sofia Silva and 15 & 12 year old sisters Kristin & Kati Lisk. I wish these four had been able to get true justice but I’m glad that this monster will never hurt another person again. And I’m so happy that Kara was able to use her trauma and her experience to help others. Thank you Anthony for sharing these stories with us.
Wow I was going to say thank you for this comment, but it actually goes to the replies too. I truly wish the 4 of them would have gotten justice but the justice is he won't hurt anyone else.
@@karachamberlain Ive been living in an orphanage for around half my life. And what always bugs me is when i tell people i live there and people always say "Im sorry!.." Like it dosent help i wish people didnt pity people for these things instead they should just try listening to the person talking about their experience and maybe tell them how brave they are for sharing the story and dont change the way you treat them because of the trauma they’ve experienced !
@@cringeweebooo60 Wow! I have to say: I'm sorry, ONLY because you had to deal with major assholes. That isn't right at all. I noticed you wrote 'around half' of your life so I doubt it was all happiness but I grew up without any sisters or brothers. I can see some positives growing up around people my age for sure. Yeah, I know there are negatives but unless I know where exactly you grew up and why it's so sad, I just view it as a different upbringing. I have just never understood why housing matters to people. I was born and still live in New York, but about 3 hours north of NYC in a very rural area. Seriously: two of my 4 neighbors are huge farms (one corn, one dairy) and just 5 minutes away my grandparents own 14 acres. But growing up in the 90s, my house was built in 1910. The roof leaked, bats got in a random hole (found it eventually though!), the foundation was cracking, and any money we had went to heat. A normal house around then was 1600 sqft and cost $100 in natural gas to heat. Ours was 3200 sqft (two apartments - us, and my great gram) and cost $1000 to heat as we had no insulation... even though there'd be 12 inches of snow outside. But man, I love that house. So many good memories. I want more than anything to buy it back one day. So... yeah. Lol, sorry that I spoke so much. The point I'm making is that where you grew up/live right now doesn't matter. How it shapes you as a person, like the good memories you have and the life lessons you learned, matter. And people who don't get that are dumb.
I’m in awe at her quick thinking to gather so much information on her captor and ability to keep composure enough to do so in such a high stress situation,probably makes her a great police officer
Love them going over what a helpful response is. The "im so sorry" putting the burden back on them honestly makes a lot of sense and its great to hear how it would help to respond to these things
I was kidnapped at 16 by a random stranger from my home...he preyed upon me when I was so troubled and lost....he used that to convince me my family didn't love me and that he can take care of me better. I had no idea. My brain protected me for years, it told me that I was just picked up by a friend and hungout for a bit and got into a fight. Far from the truth. I found out what happened because my partner and I got Into an argument when I was 24 and the sound of the bathroom door lock clicking, sent me into a cptsd flashback and flushed allllll the suppressed memories. I'm 27 now and I am loved, I safe, I am strong and I've never shared this before....I hope whoever reads this knows I am ok and I have so much love give this world in return for the love it's tried to take from me.
you can FEEL how powerful Kara is, and how genuine. I’m glad she’s able to feel her feelings now, i’m certain that’s helpful to the survivors she works with.
@Christopher Perry she is coming in this show not for fame and money, but to share her story and help others with similar situations. She even became a police officer!
@Christopher Perry No? She consented to sharing her story and frankly, sharing it with so many people can be a tremendous help to others who are or have been in a similar place. She talked about a coping mechanism that is seldomly acknowledged, she talked about things in her case that could really help people if they unfortunately ever find themselves in a situation like that. What do you see wrong with this?
This just unlocked something for me. I have one vivid and specific memory of a man angrily knocking down a trash can after getting off a ride at an amusement park when I was a kid. When Natalia mentioned that, I looked more into her story and saw that she’s from Ohio, which is where I lived in 2004, I was 8 years old at the time. I know I’ve for sure been to Cedar Point at some point in my childhood. I got CHILLS thinking I could have potentially witnessed this as a kid.
You are so good at reading the room and matching the vibe of the person you’re talking to. It’s an amazing skill to have. Thank you for being so respectful and kind.
A lot of people feel like they can't do what Kara did, but I don't know if it's just me who thinks we can. I remember there was one time where I thought I was being followed when I was 14, and the compartmentalising and quick thinking is no joke. When you think it's life or death, your body is going to use all of that adrenaline to good use and your thinking is going to be fast and clear. That bravery isn't a choice, it's a necessity to survive that most people can have.
At my Sumer camp one time there was a “bear attack” the second I heard of it we hid in the bathroom stalls and then the leaders told us to RUN to the basketball court and I was like “no you don’t run from a bear it will just chase” but she kept yelling “RUN” so I speed walked to the basketball court I thought maybe they needed all the campers there to make sure they didn’t lose anybody so on my way over I saw people running by and I told them “don’t run from a bear” I got to the basketball court and there were girls crying and hyperventilating so I went over to her and told her she needed to calm down and regulate her breathing but then everyone started running again and I was like stop running the bears just going to want to attack you more and then the bear got me it was just a care bear though the whole thing was a prank there aren’t even bears at that site they even told us that on the first day. The crazy part is I completely accepted there was a bear like right behind me and I stayed super calm and remembered everything I’m supposed to do in case of a bear attack.
Everyone’s talking about how Kara is brave and strong, but the both of them are. Any case of kidnapping is a lot of stress whether it’s from a stranger or someone close. I’m glad the both of them got out well, and are living well today.
Natalia story was a huge fear for my family growing up. My parent's went through a very long, nasty divorce & my father always threatened that he would kidnap my brother and I; he'd cut both of our hair and bleach it so no one would be able to recognize us. It was a constant thing he would say and lots of other things. It got to the point where my mom had to have police at our house at certain times to make sure he wasn't around to try it. The whole thing is insane and I feel for all kids who's been a part in their parent's divorce. It's truly scary.
my mom is a daycare provider and one of her families is going through a nasty divorce rn. the father beats the mom senseless and yesterday she got a PPO on him. him & his mother were threatening to take the children and run so we had to help sneak the kids out of the house with the mother so that they could escape to a DA shelter. it’s horrific and i cannot fathom the pain and terror. im glad youre okay
I love how Anthony has built a safe platform where people can talk about these absolutely horrifying events and bring awareness to mental health issues too.
17:19 In talking about forgiveness: “People hurt people. And it’s because they’re broken.” I love that. She said it so matter-of-factly. I want to live by this attitude!
Natalia and I have talked about our experiences with each other. My dad was schizophrenic and kidnapped me during the custody battle. He planned to take me to Alaska. My mom convinced him to turn around in Colorado (we lived in TN). My dad lost his fight with his physical and mental health in 2013 via a shotgun. I cleaned it. I had a hard time accepting that I still love my dad and always will. He was just sick and grew up in a time when no one understood his illness. Natalia told me she understood me. That meant a lot. I love these women. They're my heros.
I remember watching Natalia’s video on this YEARS ago. She deleted it and I could never find anything else about it. Glad to see she’s okay and still can tell her story.
I absolutely love how you listen to the interviewee. You listen and you try your best to understand what they are going through. You don’t just set their experience aside, you take it into consideration and how that event must have affected them. I truly admire it.
i was kidnapped by my dad when i was three, so hearing a story so similar to mine was pretty shocking! very validating, though. i do feel sometimes as if it "doesn't count" because he was my dad. and, no, he's not in jail; i'm still legally required to visit him until i turn 18. karma rarely gets people, unfortunately.
@@joelle4226 Well unless court decides otherwise both parents will always have the right to see their children until they become legally considered adults themselves. At least that's the practice in many countries. So even though the child has no desire to see the other parent, they are still required to meet with them 🤷♀
I gotta say, Kara And Nataila are the bravest, strongest, most courageous women i've ever seen. Their story is phenominal of how they were kidnapped, memorizing everything he has, make a plan for escape, and go to police and tell them she was kidnapped and give'em details of the kidnappers. "People hurt people, it's because they were broken." - Kara "Forgiveness isn't for the other person, Forgiveness is for you." - Natalia That's my favorite quotes. Kara and Nataila are legend.
Natalia and kara are both AMAZING. Glad they're okay! Rest in peace to everyone that has been affected badly,been injured Or died from another person's actions
yeah but it’s still awful to compare them. like they equally went thru traumatizing things, like yeah kara got out because she observed her surroundings but still.🤷♀️
i’m glad i’m not the only one who was kidnapped by a family member, i was also seven and it was my dad, he’s better now and im glad he got help, he was on a lot of things during that time
So I did some research on both of their incidents and weirdly enough they were both kidnapped on a June 24th. Kara's kidnapping was in 2002 and Natalia in 2004. Apparently the interview was also done on June 24th like Natalia said. So that's a triple coincidence.
Dude, Kara having enough awareness while KIDNAPPED to look at things like dentist info and doctor info and absorbing info of all the surroundings is badass!!!
I researched Karas killer. I got quite Interested , he died in the state I live in, which is terrifying to think about the city was only about 4-5 hours away from me. It is so scary that people like this live everywhere.
i went thru an assault in school that didn’t have enough evidence for the guy to get actually punished, so i struggle with the fact that i didn’t get justice, but this video helped me to realize that i can move on without it. it helps me to send him hope sometimes, hope that he gets help but it’s hard. i appreciate my school for believing me and i’m no longer around him since his parents had him move schools. in his mind, i’m a kid who got upset that he wouldn’t go out with me so i made up stories when in reality i was young and blind and didn’t know he was taking advantage of me. thank you!!
i’m really lucky too that it was a less detrimental attack and i only had to push him to get him off of me but i really really feel gratitude that whoever is watching over me caused gave me a chance to get out of the situation before it got worse.
@@Sally_crazygirl78why are you so rude? Like did you even read it no the world does not revolve around them but when did you have to be so rude? Like would you want that to happen to you?
Omg Kara’s so brave. She was so unbelievably smart and she was only 15. I can’t imagine being in that situation, most people would go blank. But she observed literally everything. The numbers, lady with long red hair, doctor and dentist, so much more. Amazingly intelligent. Wishing her and Natalia well.
@@koalaplays8855so what? being able to use litera things you see in movies irl isn't that common even if Al her ideas were based on true crime movies she was still able to save her very own life she's azing and S M A R T don't deny that and stop being rude wil ya
I absolutely adore Natalia. I’ve been following her for a few years and she has such an incredible story that needs to be heard. And not only this but there is so much more to her. So much respect❤️
When Natalia said that people have said "i wish my dad would kidnap me" I was instanley disgusted and shocked on how stupid people can really be. First of all, keep your daddy issues to yourself, this is not the time or place. Secondly, Natalia is very luck and one of few kids who get to tell that story. I have heard many stories of messy divorces and breakups leading to the kids getting kidnapped and often serverly injured or killed by the parent who took them.
Yes he was absolutely about to kill her. It FLOORED me to hear that she still questions and doubts that he would have actually followed through on it, and it really reveals a lot about her level of compassion and forgiveness. I’m almost glad that she is able to disconnect from that realization because it’s horrible.
The scariest thing anyone can go threw. I pray no one has to go though this, and those who have to recover. Sometimes I’m so so so deeply sorry this is the world we live in.
As a mother, I can’t imagine the pain and fear their parents felt, but the thought of such young children dealing with this and surviving after this is so heartbreaking. I’m so proud of each and every one of them and glad that they were able to beat the monsters who took them.
i'm a sexual assault survivor and i relate to karas coping mechanism of shutting off so hard. that's exactly what i did for years and breaking out of it requires a lot of strength. kara is incredibly strong and it's really impressive what she did
There’s this thing, less than %1 of people experience it, but I think it would be a really cool episode if you did a “ I spent a day with anesthesia awareness” which is people who were awake during surgery. The anesthesia putting the person in a paralysis state but the mind is still awake.
Or people who have had botched medical surgeries- I would love to see that interview and how people cope. It happened to me years ago and I’m still disabled to this day from it.
Kara is really amazing, she stayed calm under pressure, analysed the situation perfectly knew the danger she was in and escaped safely. She is brave and intelligent. Impressive.
I find amazing and really nice how Anthony brings light to these peoples past experiences/traumas and lets them tell their story without being judgemental but instead being supportive and giving them a platform to share and grow from it
I really needed this video, in part because it shares kidnapping stories that don't quite fit the idea we so often get in our heads about kidnapping. Even if you're held captive by a loved one, even if it's a short amount of time, even if you made it out physically safe, it still makes a huge impact. I was locked in a small basement storage room by someone I thought was my best friend for 13 hours. It comes off sounding like a childhood prank, but 15+ years later, I am still deeply affected by that trauma. As a kid when it happened, I fully believed that I was left for dead. I screamed until my voice broke and no one ever came. Sure, it wasn't for very long, I wasn't chained up, I wasn't sexually brutalized. But I still have severe PTSD that impacts my life every single day. No one deserves to experience what I did.
25:41 this advice from Kara is exactly the advice I got from my trauma counselor… and it meant the world to me. She said “you acted how any sane person would act in an insane situation. And the defense mechanisms you put in place were completely reasonable for someone healing from such a deep wound. But you have grown, you have healed. You have got yourself safe… it’s time to allow yourself to let go of those defenses.” Didn’t “cure” me completely. But it helped me break out of a destructive PTSD i had gotten into and now have a really beautiful family and home life. There are pieces of you that are always “PTSD” like for those that know what they are looking at -BUT I just look at those pieces as a reminder that I have what it takes to survive the impossible.
The amount of women that have been sexuaIIy assauIted by men is insane...and somehow women still survive and throve despite going through the worst things that a human can go through. Women are amazing
It made me so sad to hear her say she got SA'd multiple times by him but then she still said he wasn't violent. 😭 Sexual assault is violent and so many people somehow don't consider it violence.
@@Charliecat16 he wasn’t violent when he first kidnapped her. Aka, he wasn’t beating her over the head to keep her quiet. Obviously he was violent later on.
Kids need to learn boundaries and consent early. Parents don't want to have those conversations. That is where it starts. From parents & trusted adults not talking about it with kids. Also different parenting styles for example parents who can excuse their child's bad behavior or parents who allow their children to be assaulted so the child grows up thinking it's normal. It starts in individual communities.
SA is no joke. you shut off all of your emotions. i thought for the longest time it was my fault. and that i put myself in that situation. but that is never an excuse for people to act that way. great video, as always! much love everyone ^w^
Once Kara said she memorized the serial number on the container I was like, "That's so smart!" and then she just kept going on the things she memorized and the little things she said and did to get that opportunity to memorize something, absolutely amazing. He really picked up the wrong girl.
It would be cool to see an episode of people who have been through sexual assault at a young age, forgot it, then through time remembered it again. I was as a child, and my brain blocked it all out till I got to age 23 where I started to remember again, and used therapy to help.
natalia’s story really resonates with me, having had a similar experience with my mother. it’s hard to talk about because of the response people give and how they downplay it, but her coming out and sharing this experience is really helpful for me and likely a lot of people with similar experiences. she makes a good point in saying forgiveness is for yourself, and i hope to get to the point where i can forgive my mother. also wanted to mention, kara is a baddie. remembering that many details while experiencing something like that is really impressive, she should be very proud of herself. im glad both of them came out of these experiences safely and are sharing their stories. very powerful women!
When the one girl said she was sexually assaulted I just kinda broke because I’ve experienced that. And they are both doing so great. It’s actually amazing how well they are doing. Good job, I don’t know you guys but I’m so proud❤️
I never thought a parent kidnapping story would be covered but Natalia’s insight about the mental state of her father really got me thinking about mine. I was four so I don’t remember much but from the things my mom mentions he was fighting some strong demons. Also from what she tells me I know that I never want to meet the master manipulator that is my father but damn am i curious to know how he thinks. Thankfully he is still in jail and will be for another 6 years, but he knows where i live with my mom currently and im worried about the future… 🤞🏻fingers crossed guys 💀
@@esther_6 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
I remember watching a video learning about Kara just a couple months ago, I was absolutly in awe at her ability to memorize important information in order to find her captor. She is truly amazing.
I have already watched both of these women’s stories in great detail but there is nothing that compares to watching them again but with the best interviewer talking to them although these stories break my heart it makes me feel a bit more warm knowing they are in Anthony’s presence so they will feel at least a bit comfortable
I remember when Natalia first told her story, and I remember everything that happened in 2017 and I am so beyond proud of her. She’s done such a great job 🖤
I wish Anthony would do more videos like this despite getting relatively less views compared to the ones featuring big personalities. He's an incredibly empathetic interviewer, and I find stories of regular people fighting their own battles more relatable and compelling. Keep up the good work, Anthony!
Kara is an absolute rockstar. She’s so intelligent and resilient she honestly feels like a real life Sherlock. She saved not only herself but a man like that would no doubt go after others so she saved other girls as well. And helping other SA survivors as well bravo
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When Kara said she wanted to sit across from her captor in the courtroom and for him to know "choosing me was the biggest mistake he ever made"... chills! That was so powerful!
Agreed 👍
Understand her desire but I rather the fuxker dead
I admire her because the last thing I want to do in the world is till my dad in front of a bunch of people how you hurt me
She didn't get that though...😂
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The fact that people tell Natalia that her kidnapping “wasn’t real” because it was her dad, is absolute bs! 9/10 times the kidnapper is a family member or friend of the family.
There are SO many cases where kids get kidnapped by a parent, and it does not make it any less traumatic.
Especially when her Dad told her Mom he was going to unalive her.
If the police hadn't found them when they did she wouldn't be alive right now.
probably even more traumatic since the kid can't trust anyone after this happens
we aren't talking about a family member. we are talking about a parent. Natalia didn't know she was "kidnapped". She thought she was spending the day with her dad. i understand people's logic in thinking this is not a real kdnapping
@@m-pl9fd true. Your parents are supposed to be the ppl you trust the most in the world.
@@msrainbowbrite a parent is a family member... anyywayysss
Nothing that infuriates more then missing teens or children being labelled as a "runaway". There should always be an Amber alert for all missing children and teens . Kara, your a absolute legend .
Because edgy teens run away all the time.
Small police stations aren't gonna send huge search parties for random dumb teenagers.
@@drm.himself yet how many times have police labeled kids runaways only for them to be found dead later. It shouldn’t matter if the kid is stupid or troubled labeling them runaways makes the police culpable in their deaths.
Even if they ARE a runaway does it really hurt to mark them as an Amber alert/missing child? Catching the people who are actually missing or kidnapped is 1000 times worth the few actual runaways being Amber alerted
Exactly! Anytime a child/teen is missing law enforcement should always look regardless!!! ❤
Ya why dos it has to be missing teen or kids that needs to stop
Natalia ability to understand her biological fathers condition and forgive him is incredible. They are both such strong women.
It probably helps that she inherited some of the genetic aspects, making her fear breaking down the same way .
im confused with her story, maybe i missed something but it sounded like she went to an amusement park w her dad and he got arrested for it? now she wants him to be in jail for life? idk she seems dramatic and doesnt really belong here lol
@@marakahl Taking a child you don't have custody of forcefully is very much considered kidnapping. Especially considering her dad was emotionally unstable, breaking things, and said he was going to "take them to heaven", something really bad could have definitely happened. Experiences like hers can also cause emotional rifts and can be incredibly scary for a child. Your comment is actually so disrespectful like what?????
Fr, I would be furious and would probably become a legal threat around him.
what no her dad had a mental illness and started kidnapping her and was going to 'take her to heaven'
Mad respect to Kara for remembering so many miniscule details about her kidnapper. The hairbrush and the doctor/dentist info was incredible. Certified BAMF
Idk a lot about it but an adrenaline rush can increase your senses and makes it easier to process information. Maybe that’s how she memorized so much stuff.
@@indigoselinger1640 You're correct, your senses do increase- I was more impressed on what details were being cataloged- I would have never thought to pay attention to things like hair color in hairbrushes and names of doctors if I was in that situation
@@indigoselinger1640 that’s exactly what I attribute this to!
why was there lady products but they never showed up?
@@hotsexyangel that’s so eerie that the lady might not have known he was a serial killer or whatever you call it😬 i’m filled with so much curiosity
Shout out to the little girl in my town who fended off a kidnapper and rubbed the slime she'd been playing with all over his arm because she learned from Olivia Benson to mark attackers if you can so they can be found later. That's exactly what happened, the slime helped nail her kidnapper later when they tracked his car down.
Not related to the topic but I was named after Olivia benson
how does the slime help track them?
@@jihyodestroyer I thought it stuck on his arm and left bits in his car
@@jihyodestroyer that shit does not come out of cloth, if he didn’t throw away the shirt or whatever it would absolutely still be there. maybe it was even the same day and he still had it on
@@jihyodestroyer under his nail beds, in little hair follicles. The tint of the slime on the skin and clothes
Kara not only saved her own life, she potentially saved other victims and she brought closure to the families of those three girls. Kara you are the reason those murder cases were solved. What a smart, brave, and strong woman you are. To think you were only 15 at the time!
Agreed
Yes she is amazing
Uh
I believe there is a movie about her
@@Rplane28 there is
The fact Kara became a police officer later is so poetic. Good on her.
@0bsessedKatk⁹loop I I 9th😊😊😊😊
‘Good for her’ (sorry if I offended u)
@elizabethaguilero it's an expression in the UK.
no.... acab includes her mama
this story seems familiar to me... is there a documentary or movie about this story??
At 15 years old Kara is one of the most incredibly intelligent teens ive ever heard of. In that situation she kept herself calm cool and collected. She saved her OWN life. Absolutely an incredible story.
Thank you!! 🤍
Fr! She’s so strong and brave. I would have probably let him kill me.
I would’ve killed him with no second thoughts If I knew anyone defenseless was kidnapped. And yet, I wouldn’t be satisfied so I would try of other ways like torture but I still wouldn’t feel achievement.
That’s because she has been assaulted already. If I killed him before that happened then my mind would feel relished. Excuse my detailed thoughts expressed in this comment… have a blessed life.
She has also saved other possible victims since he was a serial killer. She is truly incredible.
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I'm in awe of both of them. Two incredibly strong, insightful women who have risen from horrible trauma and come out so incredible.
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Absolutely, well said . They are truly Inspiring
You mean.. Normal humans?
Unfortunately, everyone nowadays is a weakling.
ikr I would've lost my mind
It really bothers me that people actually think that a kidnapping isn’t a kidnapping when it’s the parent. A few years ago on my area in Valentine’s Day, which also happened to be the little girls birthday, her father didn’t return her to her mother when he was supposed to and by the time they found them, the child had passed and he attempted his own life kilometres away. RIP Riya.
Two kids from my hometown were taken by their father in the middle of a nasty divorce and killed them both, just to hurt the mother. It took years to find the bodies, the father refused to say where they were or what had really happened. Kidnapping by a parent absolutely does count and can be devastating.
I agree, I don’t understand how people can think that a parent can’t kidnap their children, because I’m sure it happens more than we think it does.
@@ShyAnn291 things like this are actually almost always done by family or family friends. Any harm you could commit to a child is most accessible by the people they're *allowed* to be alone with, so that's where it happens the most. It's such a sad perversion of trust :( It's why I never accept the excuse that 'but he's their dad' or 'I've known x all my life, they can take care of my kid.' If someone doesn't seem trustworthy to me, I will not let them watch a kid. This extends past the worst case scenario to things like simple responsibility. Sure, x might not intentionally hurt them, but what if the kid waddles out the door while that person is catatonically high on the couch or something? People are far too blasé about our most helpless because they don't want to unintentionally insult anyone
Ya every now and then I get an amber alert about a kidnapping and 9/10 times the kidnapper is a parent of the child.
@@dragonsrule20201 Thank you for writing this, its has put words to the reservations I have towards family watching my daughter. My grandma, who raised my dad and took care of my sisters and I very often, is now much less able bodied than she used to be. I know she can tell I don't want her to watch my daughter and I feel bad, but it's absolutely not worth risking my daughters safety.
As an abuse survivor myself, I have NOTHING but respect for both these strong women!
Wow are you okay
@@SWIFTYFORLIFEEE Yes, I am. Thanks for your concern!
@starzii_skullz Thanks!
well that would’ve been creepy, hopefully you recover of that traumatic experience.❤
@@yktr4p Thanks for your concern.
KARA is a G for real. She didn't get strong "because" of this, she was already a fucking badass.
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Her brain turned to survival mode, any means necessary to live. The human brain is so incredible
She is so incredibly smart too! My god how she memorized everything and looked for clues, etc
This
@@worldsbiggestholdthegirlfan I would’ve forgotten that I was brought in a container 😩 I was in awe at her ability to be collected and memorise all those details!
THIS is how you do true crime. With the victim's willingness AND input. A chance for them to tell THEIR story about THEIR trauma, instead of using their trauma to tell your own story. Obviously, you can't do this with every victim, so ask the family. If they say no, then it's a no.
I absolutely agree! The histories should be about the victim, not glamourazing the criminals or the crime and violence.
Wait, what?
@@B1g_B0sssss a lot of true crime is used for monetary gain, romanticizes the perpetrators, and/or takes advantage of the victims in some way.
@@magiiyoo6715 ok
Say it louder for the people in the BACK
There's a film called 'the girl who ascaped' which is based on Kara's story. It's a very good representation of her story if anyone was wondering. She's so extremely smart
i had a feeling it was based off kara
When I heard Kara’s story it reminded me of that movie and now I am just realizing it’s about her
@@francism12fm the movie "the girl who escaped" was based off her story
I was wondering if this is what the movie was based on!
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The fact that she wasn’t freaking out and she could memorize all that stuff, wow! Just WOW! I couldn’t have ever thought to do that.
You have no idea what your brain can do under immense pressure
My mum always taught me that you always listen to the kidnapper / the person who’s holding you at point and then when you have the chance , Always try to runaway
@@Ziz-The-Fox yep often in those types of situations your brain just put you into survival mode often can sometimes just shut off your emotions until you are somewhere safe to just read it all out so in that time you basically just become like a machine gathering as much as you can to survive
“I wanted him to know that choosing me was the biggest mistake he ever made and he was outsmarted by a 15 yo girl”
What an amazing person, wow. She really was incredibly smart.
Tbh I think he already knew that without her saying. Cause he knows she got away and he knows the police are chasing him because of her cause who else could it be?
@@morganrakes4184 she probably wanted to say it to his face. Like how she was saying she wanted to sit across from him in court to be able to show him the result of his behaviour
Thank you! 🤍🤍
@@arilexi Nah that is very understandable tho. Even if you strongly believe in your heart of hearts that they knew, it’s not always as satisfying as directly seeing such being proven by shoving it in their face.
It’s definitely a satisfaction I wish she could have gotten as well.
@@karachamberlain Lots of love! You went through so much and you’re incredibly strong!
Not enough people talking about how smart Kara was. Like, she knew almost exactly what to do at every point. I think if she didn’t treat her captor like that, maybe he would’ve been more aggressive. He was probably completely disarmed when she asked if there was anything she could do for him and that gave her such an advantage. Such a smart 15yo
Thank you! 🤍 survival mechanisms are pretty amazing!
pretty sure everyone is
@@karachamberlain you are so brave Kara, much kindness your way
@@WILDM1K everyone can survive a kidnapping?
@@bycintia what?
Wow listening to Kara tell her story and how intelligent she was, how she was memorizing important details even at such a young age is SO incredible. So glad she escaped
There’s a movie about it
@@cocoforeverrrfr
You should definitely do a video on “I spent a day with Child marriage/forced marriage survivors”
I would love to see this!
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Omg totally
I've read "A Thousand Splendid Suns"
This would strike a chord
this makes me think of the flds child marriages. maybe he could spend a day with somr of the child brides from the cult
"He sexualy asulted me..."
You don't just get over that dude. They may seem calm but they might cry about it every night. These ppl are strong and brave for being able to handle this and not have a mental breakdown just thinking of it.
You don't just get over it but you learn to not let it define you and learn to let be a part of your life on the past
Some people have muted emotions, I think she mentioned something about her not feeling much in regards to emotion.
@@R4qayyah Yeah, she seеms Iike a very Iogical person
@@R4qayyah Yeah and at some point, trauma can become... "Casual". Like it's muted down. Bad to say for everyone of course, as I do relate to her on the sense of having more muted emotions overall.
But still, handling trauma in a long while can and should make it even a bit easier to chew.
When she said I was getting checked out for S'A right after she escaped i thought how must've this girl felt to go thru all that.
Nothing infuriates me more than when a criminal and/or predator shoots himself to take the easy way out. What absolute scumbags. Nothing but the upmost respect to all these people sharing their stories and speaking out. They're incredibly strong. ❤
*Themself
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@@d0ll.f3tish I wrote himself in this comment specifically because of the story shared in this video about the man who shot himself. But my statement still applies to all criminals who do it.
@@d0ll.f3tish it's confirmed the predator this commenter mentioned is a man. Why even bother posting that? Lmao
@@d0ll.f3tish "themself" is not a word. It would be "themselves." Why are you trying to correct someone when you're wrong?
I really admire and appreciate how Anthony knows when to be certain ways. Like he was joking about the Joker with Natalia but he knows to be serious with Kara
The whole video I just kept being blown away by how smart Kara is/was..especially so young..the strength and brains it must have taken to do what she did…wow
Seriously. I don't think I would have been able to think as clearly right away
@@sfr2107adrenaline can be a powerful thing
It makes complete sense she went into law enforcement later in life. She’s wired for that.
These survivors have shown remarkable resilience. Their stories are truly inspiring, and they've fearlessly brought them to light. Huge respect to them and Anthony for spotlighting these crucial topics. By the way, have you heard about that park kidnapping? Absolutely mind-blowing!
Especially because she was 15!
Kara is such a brave person. I don't think I could've been as collected as she was in such a situation
Me neither, especially not at 15!
I wouldve litteraly passed out in the container lol
I SAW HER ON A TRUE CRIMW TGING
Thank you 🤍🤍
I’m 30 and male and if I were in her same situation then it would have been rip me
As soon as Kara said front yard I knew exactly who she was. I’ve heard her story 100 times and every time I am still in awe of her bravery, strength and intelligence.
dude same. it’s unreal
Same! I remember I watched a long video about her saying the story before and it was in way more detail.
There was a documentary/drama movie about the incident and she was incredibly brave to have gone through all of this
I swore I had heard the story before. Now I remember that I watch so many documentaries like that in covid. Kara is the one that always stuck with me.
I did too 💜 I remember from crime stories & 20/20.
The story Natalia told was very impactful to me due to being in a similar situation with my father when I was a kid - he had weekend custody and didn’t take me home, instead we went on a wild goose chase that lasted three days where we stayed at several different motels while he was in the throes of a schizophrenic delusion. It’s harrowing, but it’s nice to hear a story akin to mine that I can relate to. I hope i can recover like she did.
I have heard/read of Kara's story before. Always blew my mind. The way she said 'he sexually assaulted me multiple times' was so factual it's heartbreaking. She has overcome such a horrifying situation and come out a strong, well-spoken woman who would be the inspiration for so many people.
She says that he did that multiple times, and then also says he "wasn't violent with her". Just goes to show how that kind of stress can affect the victim's perception of the captor, even after such a short amount of time.
@@theharold5948 when she said he wasn't violent i thought "he literally held a gun to your neck" like? i get that stuff like this can mess with your mind but you just said this like ten minutes ago?
@@cassie3780You’re not understanding what she meant by violent. She is saying that through out the 18 hours she was kidnapped she wasn’t physically beaten at all. Yes she was sexually assaulted but she isn’t really categorizing that as violence. Based on what a kidnapper could’ve done to her, she’s saying that he actually treated better than she expected. That’s why she says he didn’t act violent with her.
I would've felt more inclined to believe my captor would kill me if he was violent in the sense of beating and physical violence, which was the context behind her response. Violence DID happen, but she was referring to a different kind.
Holy cow, Kara's ability to keep stone cold under pressure is so impressive to me. Her memorizing things is crazy. I would've panicked so hard. Respect 🙏
right?! i wouldn’t even think of looking at the refrigerator for info
YEAH her actually memorizing the doctors name and all the other stuff on the fridge was smart. I admire her for staying strong under so much pressure
It's a survival mechanism, it's extremely draining afterwards with the sheer amount of energy your brain is using to think lightning-fast and try to search for every possible way out, but it does work. I wasn't in her situation but I've been in my own and I'm still shocked until this day of how it was to experience that mental state
I’ve always thought this as well until one day I was in a situation where my phone was dead and I needed to use my dad‘s phone but it had a passcode on it and somehow I knew his passcode. It was one of those pattern passcodes and I’ve seen him do it but never memorized it but the image was in the back of my brain memorized and so when I was in a state of major distress I instinctively put his passcode in without a thought.
People not believing you or saying it's not that bad compared to other experiences. That hurts. It still effects the person as much as it would anyone else. I had this happen where I was sexually assaulted by my boyfriend when I was 15. I wasn't believed because of my age and the fact that we were dating at the time. "Teenagers do that" "boys will be boys" that fucking hurts
You can't compare one person's trauma to another person's trauma. Whatever that person went through is almost always the worst thing to ever happen to them.
It does hurt. I was told by a female prosecutor at 15 that I didn't "say no the correct way" and that I didn't "fight back hard enough" even though I was an underweight 5 foot 14 year old and he was almost 6 feet tall and way stronger than me. It does feel awful.
If you can, look for help in your area. Sliding pay scale or groups that specifically help women work through trauma. I found one online, have been referred to good trauma informed therapists and it helped me a lot. I wish you the best!
@@SmexyMinionyes I always say this even if it’s just about being sad about somthing because it still effects them even if what your going through is “worst”
what happened to you wasn’t okay, dating or not, & it wasn’t your fault either. i believe you.
@@SmexyMinion n i
Both of these women are incredibly strong and amazing. I can't imagine how terrifying this was for anyone who has gone through something like this.
I love how considerate and understanding anthony is
yeah he’s so easily moves the conversation along i envy that
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We all do
Absolute gigachad
I had a very similar experience to Natalia. My dad and his wife kidnapped me and my two younger siblings when I was 12. We were only technically kidnapped for 4 hours, but it was still traumatic.
I really relate to Natalia when she says people don’t see her as a victim bc her kidnapper was her father.
It does not matter how long it lasted, it was traumatic for you, it could still be traumatic even if it was only for 10 minutes. People who care about how long you were in a bad situation like that, and think that matters for it to be traumatic, are wrong and are assuming something about something that they could not feel. Happy you got through it:)
i had a similar experience as well. my parents had seperated and my dad moved to texas with his wife. my brother (4) and i (2) traveled to texas with my dad to stay with him for the summer and he refused to return us back after summer was over to tennessee which is where we lived with our mom. my mom (who was pregnant 7 months pregnant with my little sister) ended up getting in a car with my aunt and drove 14 hours to get to us in houston, tx.
I hope you're doing better. People who say stuff like that are wrong and I hope you're happy and healthy despite trauma. You're beautiful and I support you
Those must have been the 4 longest hours of your life.
I hate when people tell me “well it’s your dad so it not kidnapping” like what is wrong with you 😂
For the people who say “18 hours isnt that long” ITS WITH A SERIAL KILLER.
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you’re so right and think about how long five minutes feels when you’re waiting for something to be over or to be done. She was in there for 18 HOURS. She is truly brave and it probably felt like three years to her. You never know what it’s like until you’re in that situation, so don’t downplay her trauma.
He sexually assaulted her tf idc how long or short and that mf killed himself after all without getting punished and shamed for what he did
even 1 second in a serial killers presence is absolutely horrifying let alone litteral HOURS with someone that can end your life in mere seconds (who has done so to others before) thats terrifying, she is so lucky to have made it out alive im so thankful all of these beautiful people were able to escape these horrible situations. The fact that people are downplaying the situation is insane to me, i cant believe how disassociated people are with the situation
ok well it was 18 hours but yeah those are probably the longest 18 hours of ur life
Also chances of finding a missing person alive are reduced significantly after 24 hours, and even further after 48
Her outlook on forgiveness is so insightful. We're all broken and I think it becomes easier to forgive others when we're able to see our own flaws and develop the sort of empathy that only comes from personal experience.
Here’s one for Natalia since I did one for Kara and the comment section is all about Kara. Natalia is so brave and she literally just was so amazing. She chose the good options and like kind of laughs it offs. It’s not like she was about angry or anything, she was actually kind of forgiving. “Forgiveness isn’t for the other person, it’s for you.” The most wise words I’ve heard her say this whole time.
Forgiveness is actually about BOTH the sinner and the sinnee.
If we forgive them in Jesus' name, they are forgiven, said Jesus.
If we forgive not, then their sins are not forgiven them, he added.
This all comes with a catch:
""If ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father in heaven forgive you YOUR trespasses.
But if ye forgive men their trespasses your Father in Heaven will also forgive you of YOUR trespasses.""
How do we forgive best?
With the help of Christ.
When we remember all that God has forgiven us for, it is!much easier to forgive others.
But those who claim to not need forgiveness will remain unforgiven by God.
@@pellaxestorba4836 stop. bringing. religion. into. everything.
@@pellaxestorba4836facts
@@pellaxestorba4836 Please shut up about religion, this isnt about your or your god, its about the victims.
@@TC4loveandlife no not facts
The guy that took Kara killed my two friends in Fredericksburg, VA before her. They were sisters. Kristin and Katie Lisk. He killed a total of 3 girls in my hometown. I found out when I was older that he lived there for a while and met his wife there. That summer was terrifying and I am pretty sure me and my cousin almost ran into him near my school. They shut down all after school stuff and we had cerfews.
Holy absolute sh*t. I’m so so so grateful you’re here, and I have absolutely NO words to describe how genuinely heartbreaking it is to hear that your friends lost their lives to that freak. May you find peace and happiness ahead❤️
I am so sirry that happened to your friends.
If you don't mind would you share his name? I would like to read more about those stories.
@@magdalliee didn't Kara say his name in the video?
@@fedem14 Yes she did
“Forgiveness isn’t for the other person. It’s for you.”
I absolutely love this statement Natalia made. I’m not saying everyone should do it, but I know from my own experience that it can really heal and free you from what someone did to you.
If you never forgive, you're a weakling.
@@Emma_78 No.
Your lack of awareness astounds me.
You're right, not everyone should do it. Forgiveness doesn't help some people, it doesn't help a lot of people. As a trauma survivor forgiveness doesn't help me, it makes me angry and sad and like I want to punch the air out of frustration.
Forgiveness only works to a point, the thing that helps is catharsis. Catharsis comes from many things, but it comes from closure which forgiveness can provide, but forgiveness can also just make you feel like catharsis is never in reach now.
Everyone should try forgiveness, but if it doesn't help you don't feel like you're a worse person because you couldn't forgive. You don't need to forgive them, you need to find your catharsis and closure.
@@bye1551 I agree. You don’t owe anyone anything.
@@bye1551 I think it's more like you forgive yourself for not "doing enough" on trauma events. Like " If I hadn't done x y z things it wouldn't happened" mentality. So you forgive yourself, accept it happened way it did. That doesn't include forgiving the attacer ever.
I remember they made a movie about karas kidnapping called the girl who escaped. It was a beautiful movie and its cool how i can now see her tell her own story
Ik I don’t know how no one is talking about that
Imagine the guilt Tara’s friends mom must feel to this very day for having them go outside by themselves.
Kara
i mean it's not her fault but i know i would feel so bad!
there a movie off of her
@@alwa-jo5vtcompletely irrelevant
Well she was 15 tho I think right? I know I was doing insane things at age, but you’re likely right. Aw
I haven't seen Natalia in years. I'm glad she's doing so well now.
You know her?
@@Marsh57852she was a popular RUclipsr
I thought that was her 🙄 guess she had to hop on and get some clout again
@@Stephaniemickle she is telling a story about her kidnapping
@@Stephaniemickle girl what….
My mom accidentally stopped a kidnapping.
(Putting this into her pov)
It was December 13th, 1987.
Me and my friend Grace were going door to door in a nearby neighborhood, handing out Christmas mass panflets from our school.
We heard a little boy yelling across the road, and we walked back onto the sidewalk to see what was happening.
A man was trying to lift this eight year old boy from his front yard, and a large car/van was parked about 40 feet away.
Me and my friend yelled at him, and I held my phone in the air, making sure that it was visible to him.
Sure enough, he ran away and the boy ran back inside his home.
I never went to that neighborhood again.
@@The-kentucky-fried-one that was in 1983
I don’t think a 40 year old would be on RUclips with the handle @smiley_monster😭
Its good that you stopped the kidnapping!
@@Someone-from-somewhere. lol I completely forgot that I commented this edit:but I am glad that you stopped that you probably save lots of trauma for that kid
What did you mean by “I held MY phone in the air”? It can’t be a smartphone since this is 1987
@@MineZack2 that’s just what she told me so that’s all I’m going off of.
I’ve heard Kara’s story before. As soon as I heard her mention the plastic container in the back seat I knew it. I remember hearing how she memorized the serial number on the container and I was mind blown. That one detail stuck with me because it’s truly amazing. Most people in that situation would not have the forethought to do that. And her quick thinking and bravery not only saved her own life but got answers for the families of three other young girls. This man’s other victims, if you don’t know, were 16 year old Sofia Silva and 15 & 12 year old sisters Kristin & Kati Lisk. I wish these four had been able to get true justice but I’m glad that this monster will never hurt another person again. And I’m so happy that Kara was able to use her trauma and her experience to help others. Thank you Anthony for sharing these stories with us.
isnt there a movie based off her story now?
@@emmamandac8787 Yes, it's called "The Girl Who Escaped." It just came out so it might not be available to stream yet.
Wow I was going to say thank you for this comment, but it actually goes to the replies too.
I truly wish the 4 of them would have gotten justice but the justice is he won't hurt anyone else.
I love that Kara gave an example as to what you should say instead of "I'm sorry" when hearing about someone else's traumas! So helpful!
I’m so glad you found that helpful! 🤍
@@karachamberlain Ive been living in an orphanage for around half my life. And what always bugs me is when i tell people i live there and people always say "Im sorry!.." Like it dosent help i wish people didnt pity people for these things instead they should just try listening to the person talking about their experience and maybe tell them how brave they are for sharing the story and dont change the way you treat them because of the trauma they’ve experienced !
@@cringeweebooo60 Wow! I have to say: I'm sorry, ONLY because you had to deal with major assholes. That isn't right at all. I noticed you wrote 'around half' of your life so I doubt it was all happiness but I grew up without any sisters or brothers. I can see some positives growing up around people my age for sure. Yeah, I know there are negatives but unless I know where exactly you grew up and why it's so sad, I just view it as a different upbringing.
I have just never understood why housing matters to people. I was born and still live in New York, but about 3 hours north of NYC in a very rural area. Seriously: two of my 4 neighbors are huge farms (one corn, one dairy) and just 5 minutes away my grandparents own 14 acres. But growing up in the 90s, my house was built in 1910. The roof leaked, bats got in a random hole (found it eventually though!), the foundation was cracking, and any money we had went to heat. A normal house around then was 1600 sqft and cost $100 in natural gas to heat. Ours was 3200 sqft (two apartments - us, and my great gram) and cost $1000 to heat as we had no insulation... even though there'd be 12 inches of snow outside. But man, I love that house. So many good memories. I want more than anything to buy it back one day.
So... yeah. Lol, sorry that I spoke so much. The point I'm making is that where you grew up/live right now doesn't matter. How it shapes you as a person, like the good memories you have and the life lessons you learned, matter. And people who don't get that are dumb.
I’m in awe at her quick thinking to gather so much information on her captor and ability to keep composure enough to do so in such a high stress situation,probably makes her a great police officer
Love them going over what a helpful response is. The "im so sorry" putting the burden back on them honestly makes a lot of sense and its great to hear how it would help to respond to these things
I was kidnapped at 16 by a random stranger from my home...he preyed upon me when I was so troubled and lost....he used that to convince me my family didn't love me and that he can take care of me better. I had no idea. My brain protected me for years, it told me that I was just picked up by a friend and hungout for a bit and got into a fight. Far from the truth. I found out what happened because my partner and I got Into an argument when I was 24 and the sound of the bathroom door lock clicking, sent me into a cptsd flashback and flushed allllll the suppressed memories. I'm 27 now and I am loved, I safe, I am strong and I've never shared this before....I hope whoever reads this knows I am ok and I have so much love give this world in return for the love it's tried to take from me.
I'm so glad your doing better now! You're loved, and I support you!!!
Thank you for sharing! The more I learn about repressed memories… it’s crazy what our brains try to do to keep us safe!
Mad respect 4 u
you can FEEL how powerful Kara is, and how genuine. I’m glad she’s able to feel her feelings now, i’m certain that’s helpful to the survivors she works with.
@Christopher Perry the only pathetic being here is you.
@Christopher Perry christopher why don't you pipe down and save us all the trouble of listening to your bs
@Christopher Perry she is coming in this show not for fame and money, but to share her story and help others with similar situations. She even became a police officer!
@Christopher Perry Why? Cause she's sharing her story?
@Christopher Perry No? She consented to sharing her story and frankly, sharing it with so many people can be a tremendous help to others who are or have been in a similar place. She talked about a coping mechanism that is seldomly acknowledged, she talked about things in her case that could really help people if they unfortunately ever find themselves in a situation like that.
What do you see wrong with this?
This just unlocked something for me. I have one vivid and specific memory of a man angrily knocking down a trash can after getting off a ride at an amusement park when I was a kid. When Natalia mentioned that, I looked more into her story and saw that she’s from Ohio, which is where I lived in 2004, I was 8 years old at the time. I know I’ve for sure been to Cedar Point at some point in my childhood. I got CHILLS thinking I could have potentially witnessed this as a kid.
That's actually crazy
Small world, could have happened
that’s insane!
Probably just a false memory
@@chuggaa100then is it a coincidense they live/d in the same area and the time line matched
You are so good at reading the room and matching the vibe of the person you’re talking to. It’s an amazing skill to have. Thank you for being so respectful and kind.
A lot of people feel like they can't do what Kara did, but I don't know if it's just me who thinks we can. I remember there was one time where I thought I was being followed when I was 14, and the compartmentalising and quick thinking is no joke. When you think it's life or death, your body is going to use all of that adrenaline to good use and your thinking is going to be fast and clear. That bravery isn't a choice, it's a necessity to survive that most people can have.
You’re so right! We are all capable of amazing feats of survival.
At my Sumer camp one time there was a “bear attack” the second I heard of it we hid in the bathroom stalls and then the leaders told us to RUN to the basketball court and I was like “no you don’t run from a bear it will just chase” but she kept yelling “RUN” so I speed walked to the basketball court I thought maybe they needed all the campers there to make sure they didn’t lose anybody so on my way over I saw people running by and I told them “don’t run from a bear” I got to the basketball court and there were girls crying and hyperventilating so I went over to her and told her she needed to calm down and regulate her breathing but then everyone started running again and I was like stop running the bears just going to want to attack you more and then the bear got me it was just a care bear though the whole thing was a prank there aren’t even bears at that site they even told us that on the first day. The crazy part is I completely accepted there was a bear like right behind me and I stayed super calm and remembered everything I’m supposed to do in case of a bear attack.
@@Anna-mw3xp That’s fucked up
@@nonamebxtch me or the care bear
@@Anna-mw3xp not you, im pretty sure they meant pranking about such a thing is fucked up
Anthony is so good at allowing people to tell there stories. He is so patient and kind he could make anyone feel comfortable 🥺
*their
@@kevinsundelin8639 their?
@@cinnamon5675 yeah
@@cinnamon5675 Yes
@@meowmeow_986 oh yea I see it, I thought he was using non-binary pronouns for Anthony but I’m just a dumba*s
Everyone’s talking about how Kara is brave and strong, but the both of them are. Any case of kidnapping is a lot of stress whether it’s from a stranger or someone close. I’m glad the both of them got out well, and are living well today.
The fact that every single one of these stories could’ve went horribly wrong but these people made it out alive it amazing
Natalia story was a huge fear for my family growing up. My parent's went through a very long, nasty divorce & my father always threatened that he would kidnap my brother and I; he'd cut both of our hair and bleach it so no one would be able to recognize us. It was a constant thing he would say and lots of other things. It got to the point where my mom had to have police at our house at certain times to make sure he wasn't around to try it. The whole thing is insane and I feel for all kids who's been a part in their parent's divorce. It's truly scary.
my mom is a daycare provider and one of her families is going through a nasty divorce rn. the father beats the mom senseless and yesterday she got a PPO on him. him & his mother were threatening to take the children and run so we had to help sneak the kids out of the house with the mother so that they could escape to a DA shelter. it’s horrific and i cannot fathom the pain and terror. im glad youre okay
Kara is very emotionally intelligent, I admire how much she can process her emotions and understand that she is not to blame.
@@christopherperry2787how?
@@christopherperry2787 I’m very confused
@Christopher Perry are you saying Antony’s show is not genuine?
@Christopher Perry @fishlife asked a yes or no question: "are you saying that Anthony's show is not genuine?"
@Christopher Perry are you saying that it isn't?
I love how Anthony has built a safe platform where people can talk about these absolutely horrifying events and bring awareness to mental health issues too.
I love your name that's funny as heck 😂
Both of these women are so powerful and are such an inspiration. I’m so sorry these things happened to you, but I am so glad you survived.
17:19 In talking about forgiveness: “People hurt people. And it’s because they’re broken.” I love that. She said it so matter-of-factly. I want to live by this attitude!
Then you need to be a negative person.
it’s like the saying “hurt people hurt people”
We really need to understand what's causing men to disproportionately behave in creepy, violent ways
@@acegikm Well I can tell you that the habit of silencing and not encouraging men to talk about mental health issues is definitely part of it.
Yeah but that shit gets enforced by like 80% of men
Natalia and I have talked about our experiences with each other. My dad was schizophrenic and kidnapped me during the custody battle. He planned to take me to Alaska. My mom convinced him to turn around in Colorado (we lived in TN). My dad lost his fight with his physical and mental health in 2013 via a shotgun. I cleaned it.
I had a hard time accepting that I still love my dad and always will. He was just sick and grew up in a time when no one understood his illness. Natalia told me she understood me. That meant a lot.
I love these women. They're my heros.
I remember watching Natalia’s video on this YEARS ago. She deleted it and I could never find anything else about it. Glad to see she’s okay and still can tell her story.
SAME
omggg me too!!!!
I absolutely love how you listen to the interviewee. You listen and you try your best to understand what they are going through. You don’t just set their experience aside, you take it into consideration and how that event must have affected them. I truly admire it.
i was kidnapped by my dad when i was three, so hearing a story so similar to mine was pretty shocking! very validating, though. i do feel sometimes as if it "doesn't count" because he was my dad.
and, no, he's not in jail; i'm still legally required to visit him until i turn 18. karma rarely gets people, unfortunately.
Required?
😔
@@joelle4226 Well unless court decides otherwise both parents will always have the right to see their children until they become legally considered adults themselves. At least that's the practice in many countries. So even though the child has no desire to see the other parent, they are still required to meet with them 🤷♀
@@lenkajunova7419 yeah even though I was in therapy from my dad and almost killed
Myself I’m still required to stay with him
That's cruel to make you visit with him still
I gotta say, Kara And Nataila are the bravest, strongest, most courageous women i've ever seen. Their story is phenominal of how they were kidnapped, memorizing everything he has, make a plan for escape, and go to police and tell them she was kidnapped and give'em details of the kidnappers.
"People hurt people, it's because they were broken." - Kara
"Forgiveness isn't for the other person, Forgiveness is for you." - Natalia
That's my favorite quotes. Kara and Nataila are legend.
Kara is Natalia not so much..
@@Starae336 what???
@@Starae336bro stop copy pasting this everywhere , they are ppl with feelings , you dont choose a fave character.
@@Starae336wdym? Would you like to get kidnapped?
Natalia and kara are both AMAZING. Glad they're okay!
Rest in peace to everyone that has been affected badly,been injured Or died from another person's actions
Kara is Natalia not so much…
@@Starae336 One survived a homicide monster. The Other Was lead on a Police chase with her clearly messed up dad
@@Starae336tf??
@@Starae336she was 7! Kara was 15!
yeah but it’s still awful to compare them. like they equally went thru traumatizing things, like yeah kara got out because she observed her surroundings but still.🤷♀️
i’m glad i’m not the only one who was kidnapped by a family member, i was also seven and it was my dad, he’s better now and im glad he got help, he was on a lot of things during that time
So I did some research on both of their incidents and weirdly enough they were both kidnapped on a June 24th. Kara's kidnapping was in 2002 and Natalia in 2004. Apparently the interview was also done on June 24th like Natalia said. So that's a triple coincidence.
Dude, Kara having enough awareness while KIDNAPPED to look at things like dentist info and doctor info and absorbing info of all the surroundings is badass!!!
I researched Karas killer. I got quite Interested , he died in the state I live in, which is terrifying to think about the city was only about 4-5 hours away from me. It is so scary that people like this live everywhere.
Where does he live?
South Carolina
Do you mind explaining to me his other offenses?
@@Lulubooboobear he lived in stafford virginia but was caught in florida
@Mara sexual assault, murder, kidnapping, kidnapping of a minor (most likely, im basing these off of the video)
i went thru an assault in school that didn’t have enough evidence for the guy to get actually punished, so i struggle with the fact that i didn’t get justice, but this video helped me to realize that i can move on without it. it helps me to send him hope sometimes, hope that he gets help but it’s hard. i appreciate my school for believing me and i’m no longer around him since his parents had him move schools. in his mind, i’m a kid who got upset that he wouldn’t go out with me so i made up stories when in reality i was young and blind and didn’t know he was taking advantage of me. thank you!!
i’m really lucky too that it was a less detrimental attack and i only had to push him to get him off of me but i really really feel gratitude that whoever is watching over me caused gave me a chance to get out of the situation before it got worse.
@Onlyonegummy They are just sharing their story? It would of been better if you just didn't say anything
@@Sally_crazygirl78why are you so rude? Like did you even read it no the world does not revolve around them but when did you have to be so rude? Like would you want that to happen to you?
@@muddy_pup I wouldn’t care if it happened to be tbh
@@Sally_crazygirl78cmon let's not be assholes today
Omg Kara’s so brave. She was so unbelievably smart and she was only 15. I can’t imagine being in that situation, most people would go blank. But she observed literally everything. The numbers, lady with long red hair, doctor and dentist, so much more. Amazingly intelligent. Wishing her and Natalia well.
or maybe she watched a lot of true crime?
@@koalaplays8855so what? being able to use litera things you see in movies irl isn't that common even if Al her ideas were based on true crime movies she was still able to save her very own life she's azing and S M A R T don't deny that and stop being rude wil ya
I absolutely adore Natalia. I’ve been following her for a few years and she has such an incredible story that needs to be heard. And not only this but there is so much more to her. So much respect❤️
Yees me too! And Im so happy she is doing better. (After the hiatus from her youtube channel)
What’s her channel?
@@diaexists969 Natalia Taylor
Me too, I almost didn't recognize her though!
Cough Annataughtyou cough
When Natalia said that people have said "i wish my dad would kidnap me" I was instanley disgusted and shocked on how stupid people can really be. First of all, keep your daddy issues to yourself, this is not the time or place. Secondly, Natalia is very luck and one of few kids who get to tell that story. I have heard many stories of messy divorces and breakups leading to the kids getting kidnapped and often serverly injured or killed by the parent who took them.
Yes he was absolutely about to kill her. It FLOORED me to hear that she still questions and doubts that he would have actually followed through on it, and it really reveals a lot about her level of compassion and forgiveness. I’m almost glad that she is able to disconnect from that realization because it’s horrible.
The scariest thing anyone can go threw. I pray no one has to go though this, and those who have to recover. Sometimes I’m so so so deeply sorry this is the world we live in.
As a mother, I can’t imagine the pain and fear their parents felt, but the thought of such young children dealing with this and surviving after this is so heartbreaking. I’m so proud of each and every one of them and glad that they were able to beat the monsters who took them.
i'm a sexual assault survivor and i relate to karas coping mechanism of shutting off so hard. that's exactly what i did for years and breaking out of it requires a lot of strength. kara is incredibly strong and it's really impressive what she did
Did the bastard who did it get arrested?
@@DavidsSanity no. i didn't have any evidence and i didn't know his name, so i never reported it.
@@nbdjz1058 oh fuck no do u remember anything at all? Like a description of his house or his family members of the house number or street number?
I just wanted to let u know ur a strong person to and I'm proud of u I hope ur doing good now!
🫂
There’s this thing, less than %1 of people experience it, but I think it would be a really cool episode if you did a “ I spent a day with anesthesia awareness” which is people who were awake during surgery. The anesthesia putting the person in a paralysis state but the mind is still awake.
I'm fairly certain he already did a video on that
@@calamitywayblight4752 if he did I can’t seem to find it lol I’ve looked it up and nothing shows up about anesthesia survivors
Or people who have had botched medical surgeries- I would love to see that interview and how people cope. It happened to me years ago and I’m still disabled to this day from it.
My mom had a friend that happened to. It was traumatizing, as you'd expect, and she had nightmares for a long time afterward.
That’s a very interesting idea!
I am so happy that Kara was able to get justice and share her story with everyone
Kara is really amazing, she stayed calm under pressure, analysed the situation perfectly knew the danger she was in and escaped safely. She is brave and intelligent. Impressive.
I find amazing and really nice how Anthony brings light to these peoples past experiences/traumas and lets them tell their story without being judgemental but instead being supportive and giving them a platform to share and grow from it
I find these types of interviews the most interesting. Thanks Anthony.
Edit: both of these women are incredibly strong. Really great interview :)
Me too!
Same!!
@will i hit 1 sub before 2023? 🙏💖 No.
I really needed this video, in part because it shares kidnapping stories that don't quite fit the idea we so often get in our heads about kidnapping. Even if you're held captive by a loved one, even if it's a short amount of time, even if you made it out physically safe, it still makes a huge impact.
I was locked in a small basement storage room by someone I thought was my best friend for 13 hours. It comes off sounding like a childhood prank, but 15+ years later, I am still deeply affected by that trauma. As a kid when it happened, I fully believed that I was left for dead. I screamed until my voice broke and no one ever came. Sure, it wasn't for very long, I wasn't chained up, I wasn't sexually brutalized. But I still have severe PTSD that impacts my life every single day. No one deserves to experience what I did.
25:41 this advice from Kara is exactly the advice I got from my trauma counselor… and it meant the world to me. She said “you acted how any sane person would act in an insane situation. And the defense mechanisms you put in place were completely reasonable for someone healing from such a deep wound. But you have grown, you have healed. You have got yourself safe… it’s time to allow yourself to let go of those defenses.”
Didn’t “cure” me completely. But it helped me break out of a destructive PTSD i had gotten into and now have a really beautiful family and home life.
There are pieces of you that are always “PTSD” like for those that know what they are looking at -BUT I just look at those pieces as a reminder that I have what it takes to survive the impossible.
Natalia's conversation about mental illness was fantastic. She is so compassionate, and I appreciate everything that she said.
The amount of women that have been sexuaIIy assauIted by men is insane...and somehow women still survive and throve despite going through the worst things that a human can go through. Women are amazing
When will this end….I just want women to live their life without being “amazing”
It made me so sad to hear her say she got SA'd multiple times by him but then she still said he wasn't violent. 😭 Sexual assault is violent and so many people somehow don't consider it violence.
@@Charliecat16 he wasn’t violent when he first kidnapped her. Aka, he wasn’t beating her over the head to keep her quiet. Obviously he was violent later on.
Kids need to learn boundaries and consent early. Parents don't want to have those conversations. That is where it starts. From parents & trusted adults not talking about it with kids. Also different parenting styles for example parents who can excuse their child's bad behavior or parents who allow their children to be assaulted so the child grows up thinking it's normal. It starts in individual communities.
I’ve watched a Netflix movie on Kara’s kidnapping it is terrifying knowing this is the lady that went through that for real 😢❤
What is it called
@@MontymoleThe10080TH The Girl Who Escaped
SA is no joke. you shut off all of your emotions.
i thought for the longest time it was my fault.
and that i put myself in that situation.
but that is never an excuse for people to act that way.
great video, as always! much love everyone ^w^
literally. the after math is so hard
Once Kara said she memorized the serial number on the container I was like, "That's so smart!" and then she just kept going on the things she memorized and the little things she said and did to get that opportunity to memorize something, absolutely amazing. He really picked up the wrong girl.
They are both insanely well spoken, truly geniuses both of them, i’m so grateful that they made it out of that.
It would be cool to see an episode of people who have been through sexual assault at a young age, forgot it, then through time remembered it again. I was as a child, and my brain blocked it all out till I got to age 23 where I started to remember again, and used therapy to help.
I'm sorry for what you went through, no one deserves that. Know you're incredibly strong ♡
@Christopher Perry Jesus, what a dick.
@Christopher Perry You sound like someone who has never been sexually assaulted lmao
@Christopher Perry you're literally such a dick for acting like this when someone has the courage to share their story
@Christopher Perry get help
natalia’s story really resonates with me, having had a similar experience with my mother. it’s hard to talk about because of the response people give and how they downplay it, but her coming out and sharing this experience is really helpful for me and likely a lot of people with similar experiences. she makes a good point in saying forgiveness is for yourself, and i hope to get to the point where i can forgive my mother.
also wanted to mention, kara is a baddie. remembering that many details while experiencing something like that is really impressive, she should be very proud of herself. im glad both of them came out of these experiences safely and are sharing their stories. very powerful women!
When the one girl said she was sexually assaulted I just kinda broke because I’ve experienced that. And they are both doing so great. It’s actually amazing how well they are doing. Good job, I don’t know you guys but I’m so proud❤️
Karas story was so impactful especially with the movie that was made about it. "The Girl Who Escaped"
THANK YOU no one is talking about this
@ItsJayden.w truly this movie changed the way I checked my surroundings and take note of details.
@Arilou14714 yess I always read and memories things in scary situations and all the time
I never thought a parent kidnapping story would be covered but Natalia’s insight about the mental state of her father really got me thinking about mine. I was four so I don’t remember much but from the things my mom mentions he was fighting some strong demons. Also from what she tells me I know that I never want to meet the master manipulator that is my father but damn am i curious to know how he thinks. Thankfully he is still in jail and will be for another 6 years, but he knows where i live with my mom currently and im worried about the future… 🤞🏻fingers crossed guys 💀
Best wishes❤️
@@esther_6 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
praying for y’all baby
if u dont mind me asking, is he in jail because of what he did to you or did he do other things as well?
@@lyndsay369 other things but a kidnapping charge didn’t really help his case 🗿
I remember watching a video learning about Kara just a couple months ago, I was absolutly in awe at her ability to memorize important information in order to find her captor. She is truly amazing.
I have already watched both of these women’s stories in great detail but there is nothing that compares to watching them again but with the best interviewer talking to them although these stories break my heart it makes me feel a bit more warm knowing they are in Anthony’s presence so they will feel at least a bit comfortable
DONT READ MY USERNAME!!
I remember when Natalia first told her story, and I remember everything that happened in 2017 and I am so beyond proud of her. She’s done such a great job 🖤
I wish Anthony would do more videos like this despite getting relatively less views compared to the ones featuring big personalities. He's an incredibly empathetic interviewer, and I find stories of regular people fighting their own battles more relatable and compelling. Keep up the good work, Anthony!
Kara is an absolute rockstar. She’s so intelligent and resilient she honestly feels like a real life Sherlock. She saved not only herself but a man like that would no doubt go after others so she saved other girls as well. And helping other SA survivors as well bravo