Swing Lens Panos with the Noblex 6/150 F
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Here's a video about Kornelius Schorle, the creator of the Noblex: • Kornelius Schorle
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Anyway...here's a video about the Noblex 6/150F swing-lens panoramic camera! A viewer was kind enough to trust me with this camera for a couple months. Much like a Widelux or Horizon camera, this Noblex creates panoramic images on a curved piece of film with a swinging lens. But unlike the Widelux and Horizon cameras, this baby shoots medium format film! Big negatives, big camera, and oh biiiig man shooting with the Noblex like you own the place. We're all suuuuper impressed, big shot.
Dude, I don't know why I still write video descriptions. They always go off the rails and I seriously doubt anyone reads them.
I got some new pictures to share in this video along with my gripes and praises for this unique camera. I don't think I'll ever own a Noblex, but boy it was sure fun taking it for a spin. Hey! Get it? Taking it for a spin? Like the spinning lens. Man, I am under-appreciated.
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And when you think you have seen it all, nick comes up with a new video and shows a totally crazy german panorama rotation camera. 😆 greetings from germany by the way
I got one of these in the beginning of 2020 (with the motor grip and panolux meter). It's one of the only cameras I ever sold and the one I sold the fastest. While it was kind of fun to use, the results just weren't for me. I took it out on 2 walks (I only do street photography-ish stuff with all of my cameras) and it was great in use. But I just couldn't get myself to like the distortion of the swing lens. I'll stick to my XPan and keep my eyes out for an affordable 6x17 camera. I tried out the Linhof Technorama 617 once and that was such a fun beast to shoot.
I'm surprised it wasn't compared to an iPhone's panorama feature since that's essentially the same "cigarred" look you end up with. Great review of it though. I love the cactus shot.
excellent review！！！
Hey Nick, usually I like your vlogs, but as someone who has long owned and (occasionally) uses a Noblex Pro 150, I've been boiling all day over your review. Sorry that this camera looks so different, and that it doesn't do the street photography you forced it into failing at. Did you ever consider trying the camera for situations in which it performs best, instead of trying to make it to do what you want it to do and then marking it down because it didn't perform how you hoped it would when shooting the neighborhood cat. Would you use a Kodak Instamatic to photograph El Capitan? The Noblex 150 is a highly specialized piece of gear, and when used accurately, thoughtfully and with consideration (always mounted on a tripod), the results are sharp beyond belief and utterly unique and stunning. Don't listen to Nick on this one, guys; the Noblex 150 is an absolute gem of a camera for those who are prepared to love it how it wants to be loved.
I agree 100%
Nick, I like your vlogs very much, but here you used the camera for pictures that it is not made for. Go out and shoot nature. landscape or forest and you will love it! :)
Well said!
So somewhere around the point where he started talking about the bent horizon lines it got me thinking: what would it look like if I shook this Kamera up and down during an exposure? That could produce some really sick effects could it not? Surely someone out there has done this before... does anyone know what it looks like? I'm curious!
"The photos not that great"? Some of those photos are astonishing, Nick. You whine to much, I dont get why you compare to others. You are a great photographer. Photos are not that personal, they are externals.
I have a 35mm Noblex. I love it. It produces 24x66mm negatives, so a wider ratio that the 120. My model has the ability to shift the lens upwards to avoid converging verticals. Also it has a range of slow shutter speeds down to 1 full second. The 1 second exposure takes over 2 minutes. In the manual there is a description of an accessory exposure meter (Panolux 135) which attaches to the camera and varies the speed of rotation of the drum so that each bit of the frame is correctly exposed.
Fantastic video as always Nick! I legitimately did not know this camera existed. Excellent review and fascinating results!
Now guess what camera doubles in price after this video. Once it's over 2K$ I'm sure my subconscious will decide i want one.
I once ha the 35mm version it's the BEST camera for panos i'm thinking of getting another one.What happened to the last one? well that's something i'd rather forget.Once again a GREAT camera beats digital ,it can take panos "IN TRAFFIC" How do I know? I have the images.One important point is that YOU MUST TAKEYOUR TIME AND WORK SLOWLY, it's not ment for speed
Interesting perspective. It looks like a cylindrical fisheye.
was thinking the same. I get similar effect with an 8mm fisheye on my APS-C Fujifilm cameras.
I get zero scratching with my Noblex, so maybe your friend should get that looked at again. Thanks for the review!
Terrific overview of a camera I never knew even existed. Interesting features contrasted and compared. Great job.
When i was at school (I'm 68 now) we used to have photos of the whole school of around 600 children taken using a camera something like this. To prevent the distortion we used to be arranged in an arc around the tripod bearing the camera; this meant that we were all the same distance from the camera. We used to fantasize about running from one end of the photo to the other while the camera was panning, but I'm not sure that anyone ever did it. The cameras used for the photo-finish pictures at horse-racing tracks work by a similar principle, except that the "slot" remains still, photographing the finish line, while the film is wound past the slot as the horses pass the finish line. You get some very odd-shaped horses if you ever see the whole exposure, but it does the job of deciding who passes the post with their nose in front.
Nick, would you like to be a panelist on my weekly camera news show? It's Friday night 8-10.
This thing needs a trip to the skatepark. A wide shot on some ramps or halfpipes could be sick! Distortion wouldn't be much of an issue either.
Pretty cool design, basically it's an analog equivalent of the panorama mode from your smartphone's camera
Its were smart phones and digital got the idea from 🙂
Another Nick Video. Merci Beaucoup Maestro ! 😊
Edit: I also read the description.
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This is what a king photographer looks like. Peak performance.
One thing I'd say, there's something funky with the audio where it's panning slightly to the right. Not sure if it's because of a stereo microphone or some processing but I'd probably say mixing down in mono and mirroring settings for comps/fx would be a good idea!
I worked with a 35mm Widelux for many years. The Noblex is the best of the bunch. It takes quite a bit of practice before you can make successful swing lens panoramics that don’t look like swing lens panoramics. Eventually it becomes instinctive.
BTW, the 50 mm lens is a Tessar. The earlier ones were even labelled as such. And the equivalent of a 50 mm lens on 6x6 medium format is a 35 mm lens on a 24 x 36 mm frame.
~25mm equivalent on 135 full frame.
Absolutely fantastic video Nick! I think you just created the definitive guide to the Noblex, a weird and wonderful camera!
long exposure would be smoother with a faster shutter speed and more exposures. Its doing the equivalent of stacking the images.
I'd also like to see what this do to a faster moving subject. potential for some interesting motion blur.
the photos on your backyard are a perfect example of great street photos. even though they are simple subjecst doing normal things, the proper use of the camera and idea makes the photos very interesting.
I think for an expensive panoramic street handheld camera, of course the Hasselblad/Fujifilm XPan/TX1.
At least, in my dreams. ;) haha
love the content. hate the lack of it.
This was masterfully explained. The X-pan's and Widelux cameras seemed pretty straight forward, but I never quite realized a curved focal plane camera like this existed! Well worth the watch, thanks Nick. Fascinating camera!
The palms, on the LH side in the Noblex shot @ 12:36, look like the ones from "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World"!
Interesting camera. Researched swing lens cameras not to long ago after watching a video about Jeff’s photography. Like you they didn’t fit my type of photography so I will stick with my XPan and Shen Hao. The video was informative so thanks for that.
I’m a bit different from other viewers in that I have been familiar with Widelux and Noblex for decades, but didn’t know about the Horizon. Howcome this wasn’t a Behind the Glass with a Glass??
Inquiring minds want to know why this was not behind the glass with a glass??
be aware when getting such a camera from only trustful source. check tripod-mount-screws inside and add loctite otherwise surprises can occur. maybe they solved that for newer than 150 cams. 150 was first serie
Drink every time you hear "Swing-Lens-Panoramic-Camera" :P
why i dont like your videos: you are trying too much. everything seems to be so perfect and clean and unnatural, like an expensive holywood production. youtube is not tv: we want to see life the way they are.
newest models go back by 90° most probably to speed up-no more full pre-rotation.
I remember Cornel all too well dating back to the Sky Park Circle days of the late 80’s
How do you even shoot handheld with that machine without moving during the "swing" which takes a couple seconds?
The Xpan is the one to get, end of story
Isn't this a complicated way to get rolling shutter on film? 😅
Cool camera. It would be interesting to view the prints with the ends bowed towards you, opposite to the way they were taken. Probably useful in some commercial settings but I wouldn't like to frame one at home!
If you hold a Noblex print close to your face and curl the edges around your field of view the distortion is straightened out.
Thanks! Interesting for sure. You taught me a lot here.
So is the way a Noblex shoots a panorama kind of like when you shoot a digital panorama with the camera body attached to a tripod? I say "camera body" because I think to create accurate stitched panorama you have to rotate around the entrance pupil of the lens.
Thank you for watching~❤
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Wait... You're not filthy rich?
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Masterpiece at 25:42
its like taking an iPhone panorama kinda
Many years ago I used to have one of those Noblex cameras too. It also had a one click shift lens. I have shot factory and hotel low light interiors with many rotations (multiple exposure) as well as bright and sharp exterior holiday resort transperancies.
Those were the days... Thanks for reminding.
220 is also possible. one must know how to do.
Já fotografei com essa!?
I've been considering purchasing one of these (or to be honest, one of the lower priced alternatives) and found your review interesting to say the least. I am no closer to making a decision, but really enjoyed, thanks! FWIW I have a 6x17 pinhole camera with curved plane and LOVE IT!
omg i always wanted one of these beauties
Could this episode be any wider
15:54 😆
Great video as always, Nick! You're always fun to watch and very informative. This is interesting because the effect it does is similar to when manually panning a camera from side to side and taking a photo each movement. And when it is stitched in Photoshop, it has this weird side to side inclusion of the scene. And if the camera is tilted ever so slightly it affects the panning and causes weird distortions even more.
And also, we read your video descriptions!
Exactly. This camera does the stitching in real time, directly onto the film.
I have the Noblex
35mm version with the lens shift/rise function, if someone is interested in it please contact me.
Where are you based
I read the description!
Do a Cirkut camera next! 😄
ah, the original rolling shutter ;)
The first time I ever heard of what I think was a swing-lens panoramic camera, was when I was a kid and heard people taking about what was once used for taking large group photographs at summer camp. No idea what camera was being described, or even what format, but the typical results were a very wide print. Also, apparently it wasn't uncommon for kids to jump from one side of the frame to the other mid-exposure.
special squeezer!
Too long for me.
09:32 flat earth confirmed
Niche of a niche
It had me at Nob
Can you cram an 8x10 wide angle on the Shen Hao? And thereby reduce the softness, vignetting etc?
JACKPOT!
This is essentially how cell phone panoramic images are made.
Very well done review. I was wondering if the Noblex is designed to use filters like the Widelux? Perhaps the most interesting swing lens (film) camera is the Globuscope, which is capable of taking 360 degree images, and is a challenge to use. The camera appeared in the movie Ghostbusters, as a handheld ghost detection device. Thanks!
So noblex basically Noblex is a horisontal fisheye lens?
Very wide horizontally, and regular vertically?
In the end, you're just comparing very wide angle lens with a regular lenses.
Really good Noblex intro video. I have a 35mm model - the 135 S. I bought it new in 2002, and it's still going strong after ~20 years. Not my main camera of course, but I've made some of my favourite photos with it. (Incidentally, I don't get the scratching you mentioned - maybe the medium format models are more prone to it?)
Just a point - you mention that the Noblex is a 6x12 camera. There was another medium format model called the 175 UX, which had a 75mm lens. The longer focal length produced a more "zoomed in" effect, and recorded a 138-degree-wide view across 50 x 170 mm of film.
This would be a great camera for taking photos of […:l:.:l:..Las Vegas at night…:l:...]
My friend - and fellow photo assistant - had a 'Widelux' 35mm back in the 90's. Crank it up, press the shutter, and... pzzzzzzt! the lens panned from left to right 180 degrees. I think you go 6 frames out of a roll of 36.
I got one of these in the beginning of 2020 (with the motor grip and panolux meter). It's one of the only cameras I ever sold and the one I sold the fastest. While it was kind of fun to use, the results just weren't for me. I took it out on 2 walks (I only do street photography-ish stuff with all of my cameras) and it was great in use. But I just couldn't get myself to like the distortion of the swing lens. I'll stick to my XPan and keep my eyes out for an affordable 6x17 camera. I tried out the Linhof Technorama 617 once and that was such a fun beast to shoot.
YT algorithm really screws up. How did I not get notification for Nick Carver video?
I've seen one of these in my local camera museum (although it was for sale, not one of the museum pieces). I was mesmerised by the look - seemed more like a Cold War spy weapon to me than a camera, but I had no idea how it actually took pictures, or what those pictures would look like. Now I do - thanks! Interesting panoramic street photography option these days is actually digital (I know, I know...) Fuji GFX 50R in 65:24 mode, which apparently is the same as the old Fuji TX-1/TX-2/Hasselblad X-Pan ratio. Any of those would also work, I guess, but they go for mind-bending prices now and they're limited to 35mm negatives...
Wonder if it's possible to use the slow shutter and have someone or a dog run across the frame at 1m at the same pace as the swing?
Sure.
Oh great, just purchased one after watching your video 😅 I love the look 👍🏾
Great video as always 🖤 Dont know if I love it or hate it the way you described it. 28mm focal length is the street photography focal length for places like New York. Hit the busy streets with it looking like a maniac with a doomsday device 🤗😃
This just feels wrong --- a Carver vid on Monday??? It feels like eating dessert first. Fascinating look at a camera I've never heard of (and would never use!). Thanks.
nick, thanks for giving pretty much an overview of pano cameras and their ways. as a newly owner of a widelux (thanks to his dudeness...) i was wondering about the vertical bands that happened on some frames only. now i know it's how the flare shows itself.
this camera could well be the pentax 67's bulky brother. what a pretty bunch.
also: on your multiexposure frames, did somehow underexpose each single shot in order not to overexpose the whole thing?
cheers from germany.
Hey Nick awesome video! Which black and white film did you use?
Nice video, but is it my headset, or is your mic somehow broken (only hearing you on the right side mostly).
Thanks for the great review and video (as always) Nick! I've been looking at one of these for awhile now to add to my growing obsession with panoramic cameras. Thanks to your thorough review I think I'll just skip it and shoot more with my GX617. I think if I bought the Noblex it wouldn't be long before I was tired of the stretched look in landscape and architecture images, and it would start to feel gimmicky to me. If I want funky 1x2-ish panos I'll just stick with my Holga 120 Pan. Thanks again!
I must say that 6:17 has slowly become my favorite crop - I know cropping a digital photo is not the real thing, but does work for some photos. Maybe one day, I’ll become a film photographer.
Def. learned something new today... Thx Nick.
I read your video descriptions.
Nick delivers again! It was a turkey this time but was a fun video all the same, you don't want to get stale doing the same thing over and over and over, eh?
I bought a Horizon from Russia a while ago, nice to see a review on this type of camera. Thanks
Very interesting video. Probably the only and certainly the best information available anywhere on this particular camera. Not only a very clear and detailed description of the camera and how to use it, but also relevant user experience with example photos. I also liked the clear explanation of the difference between the two cameras and their results.
I had one of these, great camera to use. The electronic motor control is imho better, even essential for this size of format. There is a ‘slow speed’ module which gives more exposure options. The lens is very good, sharp with good contrast. I never had any scratching issues.
Cool camera, excellent review and way to specialized for me. I get this isn't the point of the camera, but did you try to remove the "distortion" digitally?
Super interesting video Nick - lots int here that I didn't know. You did a great job with the images too imo.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks! I read the video description each and every time.
Great review. I have been tempted to buy one of these in the past, but I think the drawbacks, especially the film scratching, are probably just enough to put me off. You've saved me some money!
Great considered personal view of a unique camera. 👍😀
Nick the picture similar to what I get out of my 8mm Rokinon fisheye lens
Brilliant video! Thank you so much Nick for that masterclass 👊