bit of a smaller video for you guys on Tekken 8. gonna be doing a bit more of these between bigger more edited videos whenever cool stuff happens hope you enjoy 🙂
Idc if the story mode was well written or not, it was fucking awesome. Especially Angel Jin vs True Devil Kazuya, and the final fight with all the Tekken 3 callbacks and Jin going back into his T3 Mishima style. It was such a love-letter for longtime Tekken fans, and as someone who's first video game ever was Tekken 3, I won't lie I shed some tears, and got hype af, especially hearing Jins theme play. (Also, calling the highest rank "God of Destruction" is sick af, and nobody can change my mind. Lol)
This was my favorite Jin(Mishima style blended with Kazaa style) it was the perfect nod to kazuya in Tekken 3 since he was killed off from previous game(my fav character is kazuya) so that Jin filled the void for me in T3.. this def brings back nostalgia
So I’m not a huge video game player, but have always preferred fighting games in general. I really only play with one friend at his house these days. We downloaded both sf6 and tekken 8 and haven’t touched sf6 since tekken came out.
I wouldn't say success fully, rather due to all the Season Passes and DLCs that boosted the budget for Tekken 8. On it's own I hear more negative stuff than positive stuff for TK7. They went all DOA on TK7 in terms of DLCs.
@@necroheartplucker tekken 8 dlc is even became worse that doa(buying avatar, gold t shirt , tekken store for buying stuff within game...and this is just begining(also full game is 120 $)...and people was attacking on free to play game like doa for being greedy , just because game put money on selectable sexy costumes lol...(also tekken 7 done that too for its sexy costumes but people were totally ok) )
@@kingpotato7183 yo some people just like to complain. Misery loves company and " if I hate it I got to have you hate it too" Best to just let 'em fester alone
I think the series' shift to being more overtly "Anime" is, at least in part, owed to the technological progress of videogames. Even if the developers wanted to make a character like Lars or Victor back in Tekken 1, it would have been incredibly difficult to realize it on the PS1 the way they can do it with the tech of today. We even see this in Tekken 8 with Raven. Debuting in Tekken 5 he was a somewhat normal "fighter" that just had an unconventional style, and now he is able to summon shadow clones of himself, which mandates that several highly detailed character models doing individual animations from individual positions have to be displayed at once.
I think by Tekken 5 they were able to do the stuff you see in Tekken 8 just fine judging by other games from the era. I think it has more to do with changing audiences/times and wanting to appeal to different audiences.
Raven already had shadow clones in Tekken 5, he could also teleport and phase through the opponent when backflipping. We also had the devil characters in Tekken 5 and earlier to some extent. I think another thing people aren't considering is the ratio, out of 3 new characters Victor is the only one that's super crazy and ridiculous. And out of the entire roster around 20 or more out 32 characters are based on actual martial arts. So you're definitely right with the hardware limitations, I think people are just ignoring what was already there. Tekken has always been anime it was just 90s shonen coded, but Tekken always changes with the generations of anime similar to how the music always changes with the generations
Wait it doesn't? I never actually played Quick Matches, but that is a bit strange. Just another small thing that Street Fighter does better than Tekken when it comes to online, I guess.
My favorite thing about Tekken always has been and always will be the freedom it provides, especially for a fighting game. You want to customize the music for each piece of the game from menus to stages(love that Jukebox system)? Go right ahead. You want to make your Zafina look like Kunimitsu cosplay? Thats great go for it. Even the gameplay itself, the style of top level Tekken players from each region is so vastly different even when they play the same character you almost couldn't tell they are the same character. Its amazing just how much freedom you have in Tekken and thats the one thing i hope never changes between each game.
@@parry3439 I know i'm overselling it a bit, the game does have it's flaws, but the moves in most characters are closer to tekken 7 than they are to 6, there's no rage art shenanigans, the AI is not as braindead as it was in 7, you can play 1v1, 1v2 or 2v2, the character interactions are fun and it has the most complete cast of characters from all tekken games, I dont think we've had a playable Jinpachi in any other tekken, not even 5. Plus you can't tell me that Snoop Dogg map wasn't fun as heck. I didn't buy it in the day cause i thought it was just 2v2 tk6, but it is now my favourite game in the series, havn't played 8 yet, will buy it asap tho.
@@CErra310thing is tag 2 didn't suck, it didn't bomb because the game was bad. It bombed because fighting games weren't as popular in the early 2010s and it was released at the end of the PS3 era. It also had no post launch support and it came after Tekken 6 which was the actual mainline game that bombed, tag 2 is based on Tekken 6's gameplay so people probably perceived that as being more of the same
I dont play fighting games, so half of the time I have no clue what you are talking about, but it is still really nice listening to you. Keep up the good work man
Yeah I thought some people might have it go over their head haha. I should probably do better at explaining for people who aren't in the know, but this video was mostly unscripted as opposed to my other videos. Glad you enjoyed regardless!
Thats so bullshit, every tekken game that came out was popular and still brings back old nostalgists to play this game. The only one that put people off was tekken 4 due to the changes it had, but with time people appreciated that game even more. Tekken 5 is my favourite
This reads like a movie critic who watched an anime for the first time and reviewed it like it was a blockbuster, using AI to ask what Tekken is about. Intro - Tekken 4's intro is def cooler, but it only shows off like 4 characters. Tekken 8 at LEAST shows off like... 8 characters! Or maybe.... all of them? It's hard to fit them all into something coherent, but at least showing the story battle is a decent approach. Also immediately skimming past 5's intro cause it completely disregards your statement is hilarious! The same "issues" persist for both intros Fighting Styles - There's not enough UNIQUE marshal arts to go around, g. Even if there are, they would have very few actual techniques that could be transcribed into moves for the games. Who cares if Chinese MA #300 has 4 moves that could work, it's not enough to build a character over. The Tekken team would rather spend the money on something potentially cool than boring anyway. Ranked Titles - Tekken's always had these ranks so they decided to stick with them. But sticking to something is bad, right? Oh wait no everybody wants them to stick to only martial arts!! Oh my!! we have quite the dichotomy! God of Destruction is whatever, DBFZ has the exact same title in ranked too, obviously fitting way better there but I digress. The titles past Tekken King are obviously made to one-up one another, and it somehow ended there ig. In the wise words of Eminem "Why be a king, when you can be a god?" Rank Cheater - Yeah you're right, but like, name one game that doesn't have cheaters that all give themselves like 99999 points on the leaderboard? Yeah, every company struggles with that, singling out Tekken is just dishonest. For reviews like this, talk about TEKKEN!!! not some issues that persist through literally ALL MP games. Also calling the story bad is just... man. Like watch any Tekken RUclipsr play it and they enjoy it immensely. Saying nothing happened is just retarqed, honestly. Were your eyes shut? Do you know what a Tekken is? Is this Tekken in the room with us? You're always comparing SF6 to Tekken so let's go, let's play your game then! Did you like SF6's story? How did you like their character episodes? Did something happen at least? overall I give this review about an 8/10. For Tekken 8. Disregard what I said, you liked the game and that's all that mattered :)
I was gonna say quite a few points but other people have already made those so Ill say this instead: Tekken 8 is aggressive, for a tekken game. Not by the standards of other fighting games. Tekkens systems have always been inherently balanced in favour of the defender rather than the attacker, you can duck and sidestep either side, arenas are bigger, movement is hard and most characters dont have many long range moves compared to other fighting games. To compare it to 2 other fighting games: Melee and DBFZ. Melee is also about movement but its stages are much smaller, hitboxes are bigger and characters have lots of ways to approach from the air or ground. This makes it so that getting in your opponent and pressuring with aerials and the like is basically unpunishble if you do it right favouring offense. With DBFZ characters can teleport, dragon dash and have many ways to beat blocking so enforcing mix ups is the name of the game. Tekken 8 as aggressive as it is can't compare to that level of aggression, nor should it considering the scale and complexity of the game systems. Tekken 8 gives as many offensive options and defensive, its just that the defense was already there from the start and the offense only came here
I love both SF6 and T8, they have world tour mode and arcade quest, which is possibly the main attraction that appeals to newcomers and casuals into the franchise, essentially teaching them the fundamentals of inputs and basic combos.
tbf, I never said it was BAD, just entertaining. I don't think anyone is gonna compare Tekken 8's story mode to Shakespeare, but that doesn't mean it was straight up bad.
It was perfect. Because Tekken is never about story. 😂 It's perfect bc they keep every option open for next game' story when nothing changed. But it's not like nothing's happening in story, it's fun and that's all I expect and want.
The beginning of the video is wrong. The downward spiral was after Tk5 which was very popular and successful. T6 sold less than expected but that doesn't mean it was a failure, while TT2 sales were poor. But to propagate that Tekken went down hill all the way from T3 in the 90s until T7 in 2017 is false.
Hopefully Soulcalibur VII will get a budget/support from Bamco AND the FGC. It becomes more and more apparent how well designed and *actually* intuitive Soulcalibur's design is the more I learn about Tekken's inconsistent rules. I mean, over half the cast of SCVI had longer movelists than King in T7 (and 11 have more moves than he does in T8) but no one makes videos talking about how impenetrable SC is because the movelists are actually organized and the game actually adheres to universal rules.
That's a great point you made at around 21:00. I think we can look towards Smash Melee though as an example of aggressive-focused gameplay not becoming stale as long as there are good and creative movement options. Player expression through movement is so entertaining
I didn't neccesarily mean through just movement, I just meant when aggression and defense are equally strong from a core gameplay standpoint. Movement does play a part in that, but the general safety of moves in Melee, the relatively high shield stun compared to the rest of the series and how strong combos are whilst still giving you strong escape options out of them means theres a good amount of risk reward when deciding whether to be aggressive or defensive in Melee.
Here's the thing, Tekken 3 was one of the highest selling fighting games of all time and yet TTT 1 had low sales by comparison selling only about 28% of Tekken 3 sales. The fact that TTT2 came after Tekken 6 (which wasn't even half as popular as Tekken 5) guaranteed TTT2 would be the worst selling tekken of all time up until that point (yet still managing 43% of Tekken 6 says, thus by percentage comparison performing a lot better than the original TTT). TTT2 is still the most fun I've had in a Tekken game and I'm playing Tekken 8 rn (for the last almost 3 weeks) and that's still the case even though I know the internet hates it (especially online only players who often ruin game enjoyment anyway). Tekken 8 really does feel a lot like Tekken 7 part 2. And despite all of Tekken 7's content, for someone who has played all of the Tekken games (except for Dark Resurrection on PSP) over the span of 27 years, TTT2 really was the last game that felt like a Tekken game. Now it's more of a Street Fighter light show with Tekken Characters.
19:22 small correction, backdashing actually got buffed too, what got nerfed is Korean Back Dash Cancelling. Its still useful, just not as necessary anymore since backdashing in T7 was garbage.
Hi there. Fighting game lover who Loves the Tekken franchise and currently having a Ball with Tekken8. I enjoy your articulation of this game. I absolutely love Tekken7 and u describing Tekken8 as T7 with a Budget is perfect. Also I should point out that many FG players both Casual and Pro's have collectively agreed that Tekken8 has the best FG story to date. Believe me the ones saying that are Mortal Kombat fans. But considering all mk fans got was...... invasions and.....a passable story..... Yeah Tekken8 is Gr8
This is such a great video and analysis of Tekken - funny, informative, brings other games into discussion and I loved the edit of Tekken 8's intro. Keep this up!
Tekken is fun but i wont lie i kinda enjoyed the defensive playstyle of tekken 7. So far from what ive seen alot of tekken 8 is similar. The pressure and offence is easier to access but theres still alot about this game thats amazing
I might get Tekken 8 after all. Seems cool all around and also after seeing lots of vids and screenshots of the bonkers level of customization for the fighters just further convinces me.
It's amazing what you can do with the customization options, specially considering that it is a downgrade from previous Tekken. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 was peak in customization.
as far as tiering system for tekken goes, i think its unique that they dont do the standard metal to alloy rank most games go...the names are gonna sound cringe depending on who you ask though lol. Also mighty ruler is lower than fujin because fujin is a wind god, and god of destruction is currently the best description for an absolute beast of a fighter (its currently the summit of power in dragonball for a reason)
There’s no punishment for unplugging online in ranked That needs to be fixed but as far as ranking up goes. It doesn’t take a long time if you get a win streak. I was getting like 1000points per game on a nine win streak in ranked
Yeah that is an issue I forgot to mention, fuck pluggers LOL. Also I didn't know winstreak bonuses were a thing in this game, do they stop after a certain rank like in SF6 or did they continue regardless of your rank?
@@Ardrid_ dont get me wrong i didnt watched the vid but guessing what ts about it but what i believe is that ure not a tekken vetaran and this title alone already made me put work in this cent to solve ur problem in this video i didnt watch😂
hope tekken 9 or 10 will returns to industrial, more grounded like tekken 4. with fewer characters but more individual character stories and not what if.
TTT2 was for people who grew up playing the original Tekken games and especially Tekken 3 and 5 Tekken 8 is a lot more for Gen Z kids who may have only started playing Tekken at Tekken 6 and are not familiar with or used to what the essence of Tekken ever was. Also for Tekken 7 & SF x Tekken fans.
Fighting games recently have just been killing it with ways to get new players into them. Guilty Gear had incredible tutorials, Granblue had the simplified inputs, SF6 had modern controls, and now Tekken 8 has all of this stuff. It's amazing and I think fighting games have never been more accessible than now
You are almost completely wrong in your video. TTT2 didn't "almost kill the franchise". Harada himself said it, yes TTT2 failed to be a commercial success, but it never was anything close to put the entire franchise in a risk of disappearing. I mean look at Soul Calibur. SCV did even worse than TTT2 in sales (in hindsight, as a 3D fighter SCV was objectively much worse than TTT2) and that didn't stop them from making SCVI and surely SC7 will occur at some point in the future as well. So it should be easy to understand that "TTT2 almost killed Tekken" is just a rumor spreaded by some very well known Swedish troll RUclips/Twitch streamer (who is currently known to badmouth and demonize TTT2 in his streams, yet he played it enthusiastically back in the day). It's hard to believe that if a second-rate franchise like Soul Calibur, which did far far worse than Tekken did at the same time period, yet was not let down by its developers, then how such a mainstay game series for Bandai Namco as Tekken is, would be getting such fate? No way. It wasn't going to happen. TTT2's failure to make it big was due to a bunch of factors almost completely unrelated to that game's quality, namely, poor timing - TTT2 had to compete against SFIV and MK9, both of which were, at the time, heralded as the titles that would bring SF and MK back from their own pitholes they had gotten themselves into. There was great expectation to see both Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat's return to glory, and the fighting player community was absolutely hyped for either of them, or both, so TTT2 just went under the radar for most. Also, Bamco failed to market TTT2 as much as they needed to, there was never a "Tekken World Tour" for TTT2 when the game was fresh, nor did they do a massive Twitter campaign to publicize the game as they would do later for T7. And, the most unfortunate and depressing of all, Bamco never made the decision to port TTT2 into Steam as it was done with both SFIV and MK9 (again). Bamco naively believed TTT2 would hit big sales almost on its own so they planned to push other fighting games for PC (Rise of Incarnates) and left TTT2 to look for itself. After the weak TTT2 sales and the complete failure of Rise of Incarnates - Bamco's intended fighting game for Steam - all those mistakes were compounded for T7, and it was THAT which made the difference. Because of its smaller budget T7 has positively worse quality than TTT2 in almost every aspect - graphics, visual presentation, character balance, networking, offline content, you name it - yet it sold big because A) it moved onto Steam, something TTT2 never did and B) a flurry of publicity via Twitter, TWT events, constant patches and DLC content etc etc.
I partly agree with what you’re saying about aggression getting old like defensive play if it becomes the dominant strategy. On the other hand I think aggressive games are generally more interesting because they tend to be more interactive. A balance is best though of course
sorry but the tekken 8 story mode wasn't for you if you truly didn't find it good or even great, it was for the fans of the series that have followed it for god knows how long and the people who actually looked into the games story
Tekken 8 has a frame meter, the game is well balanced between offence and defence. Lastly being experienced in tekken is the same as being experienced in street fighter. Try to beat my friend playing ryu for over a decade as a newcomer lol
I think the naming convention for tekken's ranking system js good, cuz nobody is gonna look at "Usurpur" and think your bad at the game, like how people make fun of Gold nova km csgo. Every rank sounds cool and looks cool. Also the naming convention like kyu and dan are based on karate/judo while Genbu and Suzaku are mythical beast. While Fujin and Ryujin are gods, so it checks out when the final rank is "GOD OF DESTRUCTION".
That's fair, it's not really a bad thing, it's just that a simple "Iron/Bronze/Silver/Gold" etc. is easier to understand for people than Karate ranks, which are well known but you'd need someone who has done karate to know those (I wouldn't be able to tell you the different ranks in karate/judo, although that is an anecdotal experience.)
tekken 8 has frame data in the bottom that training mode is pretty cool especially recording and retrying different instances personal example is azucenas up+ 3, up +4 bamboozles me every time so i can record it and study how to get hit a bit less or throw other mixes into it and have it be randomized to block strings
T8 has the worst customization ever. They even started cracking down on saved colors. That look like skin color. It'll be defaulted to a bright red. Harada took ESG money and it shows. With few exception, most of the females don't have cleavage showing outfits.
Forced 50/50s as a central mechanic and totally nerfed movement will not do this game favors in the long run once the honeymoon period is over with casuals and MK/SF refugees.
People who say this most likely do not play the game. The 50/50s are tied to moves that give you a 50/50 on hit in the old games anyway. And the backdashing is basically the same, it's just the difference between regular backdash and KBD is smaller
@@shaghilathar3588Are you gatekeeping observations? I am a multiple max rank player t6-t7 and I agree too. And you are wrong about the forced 50/50 situations, db1 for example from xiaoyu is just one example of where you can throw it out until you get a forced 50/50 as opposed to Tekken 7 where it was a knockdown and went back to neutral. I seriously question if you yourself play the game as this is a serious change in high level balancing.
@@shaghilathar3588 Definitely not, especially with characters like said xiaoyu with no options to really enforce that unless you're like a red rank or something.
@@KyeCreates Almost every character gets a 50/50 with a knockdown otherwise you're saying they have basically no oki. Xiao from what I can remember has that setup where she can jump over you for example
Seriously, Tekken is supposed to be epic and the tiny portraits immediately stood out to me as kind of odd. I want the feeling of the character select roster to feel huge, both in terms of number of selectable characters and the presence of the icons feeling larger than life.
I'm alomst rank Garyu on with a few characters and I have to admit, I feel kinda bad because I have such an advantage over newer players from play TEKKEN for so long. I'm 31, I got into Tekken in 2003ish and I've been playing since.
Tekken is and always has been more casual friendly than SF. You can pick up the game, pick any number of characters and actually feel like you’re doing something, until advent of modern controls in SF, this was impossible.
I do get that you said "mostly" downward spiral but i don't really think you ought to show Tekken 5 for PS2 in that list while saying that, it was a huge release and to some still the best game in the series.
If I didn't show it, i'd be getting comments then saying "where's Tekken 5!?", so I just showed it so I had every main Tekken game on there. I know that Tekken 5 is a high point in the series, especially in Dark Ressurection.
@@Ardrid_ true enough. Tekken is weird. It has entries that sell loads of copies but people don't seem to think of a game like Tekken 6 as a game with the status of something like it's generational peer Street Fighter IV. Arguably people act like the series was just "3, 5 and 7" and the others must have been "whatever"
So far I think that Tekken 8 is a masterpiece. They made pretty much every right mov e as a followup to tekken 7. They took all the best parts of tekken 7, kept them in this game; then they cut all the bullshit, gave us what we wanted, and made it look and feel amazing. I think this is a better game than tekken 7, and I think all the quality of life adjustments are going to be well appreciated by veterans and newcomers alike.
idk if im slow or perhaps you misspke but what about sf6 training is better than T8 training? cause pff the top of my head they both have all the same options but id argue tekken has more training options in the replay and punishment training. but i heard you mention frame data but t8 has that too so just wondering the thoughts behind ya statment .
I feel like Street Fighter 6's UI for training mode is easier to understand than Tekken 8's (which is ironic because the only major issue for SF6 imo is that its UI outside of training mode is confusing as hell). It doesn't just teach you what you can do but WHY those things are good. Tekken 8 doesn't have character tutorials or combo trials that are extensive and detailed as SF6's, and I truly think the introduction of the Frame Meter into SF6 is THAT big of an improvement. It made something as obtuse and hard to understand for newcomers like Frame Data and gave it a visual explanation thats easy to read, has a simple explanation for what all the bars mean in-game, and other things. Tekken does have the frame data in-game thankfully for free this time, but you'd probably still need someone to explain to you what the hell that number even means if you didn't know already beforehand, whilst I don't think I could say the same about SF6. It even teaches you specific move properties like invincibility frames through the different bar colours, which Tekken 8 doesn't do to my knowledge. Also I think there are minor things like SF6's ability for you to choose the dummy's actions without having to directly record them are more extensive than Tekken 8's, and allow for a greater variety of things it lets you do. I can reliably set up reasonabaly complex situations in SF6 without having to record a single thing specifically, which is a nice thing in streamlining the game. However, looking back on it now I would say that Tekken 8's training mode is a lot more on par with SF6's than I made it out to be in the video, although I don't think its quite there yet.
@@Ardrid_ oh alright that makes a lot of sense, I'm a legacy Tekken player from the very first Tekken on PlayStation 1, and while I've played all the street fighter games it would be disingenuous to say I played them equally I absolutely love Tekken and feel like it's the best fighting game franchise. I didn't know about alot of the extra options in SF 6 I kinda just learned the new mechanics and just combo practiced like a casual 😂 but this explanation makes me Wana boot the game up and try it out with this new knowledge I might start to enjoy it more. I appreciate you taking the time out to answer my question. You just gained a new subscriber as this is the first video I have seen of you and I did enjoy the video.
@@Ldarkkratos Thanks. I don't do only fighting game content if you look at my channel, but I have a fair few on here already and more planned eventually because I just like the genre.
T8 has 3 major flaws for me, as a longtime fan. 1. Why has the customization been on a consistent downgrade post-T6? They should be ADDING things like T3 and T5 King, instead they're REMOVING things like full-body Jaguar King. But its still better than MK1 only offering you 1 slot per character, and it isn't $10/skin. Still disappointing, but I'm being fair. 2. They did not need to canonically undo Ogre's main feat to put Jun in the game if **SPOILERS** her only appearance in the story is in Jin's head. When I fought Azazel the first time, I was positive they were bringing back Ogre for a Jin/Jun story chapter, and it never happened. I'd have left it a mystery until T9 as to whether she's really alive. And even if she is, I'd have made it that Ogre DID kill her, but her Angel powers allowed her to pass back to the reaom of the living. 3. There is NOTHING for Heihachi legacy fans. I expected Reina to play a lot more like Hei. My solution: Mokujin comes as DLC, with his base style being Heihachi, but you can switch with R3 like Unknown. Maybe he has a small chance to become other characters that we know won't be DLC like Baek or Kazumi. And a smaller complaint, but no Team Battle? REALLY?!?!?
I'd personally want mokujin to come back like he always has been, but there's a chance you get heihachi and other missing characters. Id pay plenty for that, and only that.
I get what you’re saying about Ogre, but: 1) his rep was already heavily tarnished when Bruce, Baek, Wang and Ganryu all returned in Tekken 5 after heavy implication Ogre killed them all with their absence in Tekken 3 and 4 and him having at least 1 of their moves. I know many (gen Z in particular) have a soft spot for Tekken 5 but it was the point where Namco began giving up on the lore. 2) I can’t peg exactly where he started saying it, but Harada has referred to Jun as ‘missing’ rather than outright dead for quite some time now to leave the door open for her return. As for Heihachi, well, there’s not supposed to be anything identical for his legacy players, as was the case with characters like Josie and Leroy being spiritual successors to similar absent characters rather than mere model swaps, plus he had been redundant competitively for a while (in a vacuum, he was probably better than Kazuya at least), and Reina so far has been a well-received revamp to the ‘aggressive Mishima’ sub archetype.
@@KyeCreates Actually incorrect. I'm Gen Z (well, Zillenial) and the first Tekken I played was technically Tag Tournament 1 but Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection for the PSP was the first Tekken game I owned. Same with peers at school.
I knew it probably meant something like that in Japanese, but my point then would be that nobody outside of Japan is going to know that. They'd just see Mighty Ruler and random word they don't know being higher. If they translated those ranks to English, then it wouldn't be as much of a deal.
@@WavyJayZNot everyone that watches anime is intimately familiar with aspects of the Japanese language, although now that you've explained Fujin being higher than Mighty Ruler does make sense.
13:35 ...quite sounds to me like Namco saw how _Gran Turismo Sport_ and 7 players can rank up their sportsmanship rating from E to B within a day then blow it back down by smacking onto drivers who expect you (by your SR precisely) to at least try and be somewhat decent... and pushed so hard in the opposite direction that it feels unbearable.
bit of a smaller video for you guys on Tekken 8. gonna be doing a bit more of these between bigger more edited videos whenever cool stuff happens
hope you enjoy 🙂
Smaller video, he says... when it's 23 minutes long with timestamps!
Gonna be listening along as I play some good ass Tekken 8.
It has infinite rematches, you just have to set it in the settings... It's not as straight forward as one would think, but it works, I guess...
2:10 "Where the *easiest* characters characters still have over 100 moves"
Shows Yoshimitsu
Apparently he's easier to pick up in Tekken 8
@@tyresesuri7431 still one of the harder characters to play. Maybe strong at low and intermediate level but thats about it
Eyemusician?
@@tyresesuri7431 easiest would prolly be shaheen or victor
@@captaindiablo604Shaheen is concidered easy? I thought he was mid diff
Idc if the story mode was well written or not, it was fucking awesome. Especially Angel Jin vs True Devil Kazuya, and the final fight with all the Tekken 3 callbacks and Jin going back into his T3 Mishima style. It was such a love-letter for longtime Tekken fans, and as someone who's first video game ever was Tekken 3, I won't lie I shed some tears, and got hype af, especially hearing Jins theme play.
(Also, calling the highest rank "God of Destruction" is sick af, and nobody can change my mind. Lol)
I shed a tear too! Such fun easter egg call backs to the previous games throughout the whole story. Ugh so epic i loved it!
This was my favorite Jin(Mishima style blended with Kazaa style) it was the perfect nod to kazuya in Tekken 3 since he was killed off from previous game(my fav character is kazuya) so that Jin filled the void for me in T3.. this def brings back nostalgia
The only shit thing about the story was that awful section that was similar to tekken force but was horrid. I wish they removed that.
Of course you don’t care you’re a little kid
The rank names sound better in Japanese
Tekken 8 has set a new standard for fighting games honestly
So I’m not a huge video game player, but have always preferred fighting games in general. I really only play with one friend at his house these days. We downloaded both sf6 and tekken 8 and haven’t touched sf6 since tekken came out.
@@drukQs93 I spoke too soon LOL.
I hate the monetisation as well
well well well
This aged like milk! 🥛
And let's not sleep on the fact that the reason Tekken 8 had a budget is because of the success of Tekken 7.
I wouldn't say success fully, rather due to all the Season Passes and DLCs that boosted the budget for Tekken 8. On it's own I hear more negative stuff than positive stuff for TK7. They went all DOA on TK7 in terms of DLCs.
@@necroheartplucker tekken 8 dlc is even became worse that doa(buying avatar, gold t shirt , tekken store for buying stuff within game...and this is just begining(also full game is 120 $)...and people was attacking on free to play game like doa for being greedy , just because game put money on selectable sexy costumes lol...(also tekken 7 done that too for its sexy costumes but people were totally ok) )
Full game is literally 80eurs. What are you on?
@@kingpotato7183 yo some people just like to complain. Misery loves company and " if I hate it I got to have you hate it too"
Best to just let 'em fester alone
I uh... I think that's how sales in a series works, man...
I think the series' shift to being more overtly "Anime" is, at least in part, owed to the technological progress of videogames. Even if the developers wanted to make a character like Lars or Victor back in Tekken 1, it would have been incredibly difficult to realize it on the PS1 the way they can do it with the tech of today.
We even see this in Tekken 8 with Raven. Debuting in Tekken 5 he was a somewhat normal "fighter" that just had an unconventional style, and now he is able to summon shadow clones of himself, which mandates that several highly detailed character models doing individual animations from individual positions have to be displayed at once.
The story, the characters, the designs are anime as fuck since before.
I think by Tekken 5 they were able to do the stuff you see in Tekken 8 just fine judging by other games from the era. I think it has more to do with changing audiences/times and wanting to appeal to different audiences.
Raven already had shadow clones in Tekken 5, he could also teleport and phase through the opponent when backflipping. We also had the devil characters in Tekken 5 and earlier to some extent. I think another thing people aren't considering is the ratio, out of 3 new characters Victor is the only one that's super crazy and ridiculous. And out of the entire roster around 20 or more out 32 characters are based on actual martial arts. So you're definitely right with the hardware limitations, I think people are just ignoring what was already there. Tekken has always been anime it was just 90s shonen coded, but Tekken always changes with the generations of anime similar to how the music always changes with the generations
People who think there Japanese fighting games are too Japanese are silly
Tekken 2 had robots bears and lizards from a genetic lab. I think the anime vibe has always been there just even more so since tekken 6
I would love it if it had infinite rematch for quick matches, but besides that ,tekken 8 has been a lot of fun
Wait it doesn't? I never actually played Quick Matches, but that is a bit strange. Just another small thing that Street Fighter does better than Tekken when it comes to online, I guess.
@@Ardrid_ yeah, it's like both games are a solid 9 and each one has what the other lacks. Tekken's jukebox would be a dream on sf6
@@heathenmonk1249 if that existed, I'd buy the game and immediately put on the 3rd strike OST
Tekken 8 is the best fighting game to date
TTT2 is better than 8 and a lot of old heads will argue TTT1 and 5DR are better than T8. Dont even get started on games like Third Strike lol
@@Geferulf_TAS TTT2? Isn't this the one that almost put an end to the series?
@@Geferulf_TAS TTT2 Was feuture rich but cmon bro tekken 8 had better gameplay + better netcode + tekken ball + insane graphics
@@Scorptice No, that's Tekken 4.
@MyNamesNotLars1 TTT2 was my favorite untill T8, T8 is too clean
My favorite thing about Tekken always has been and always will be the freedom it provides, especially for a fighting game. You want to customize the music for each piece of the game from menus to stages(love that Jukebox system)? Go right ahead. You want to make your Zafina look like Kunimitsu cosplay? Thats great go for it. Even the gameplay itself, the style of top level Tekken players from each region is so vastly different even when they play the same character you almost couldn't tell they are the same character. Its amazing just how much freedom you have in Tekken and thats the one thing i hope never changes between each game.
ttt2 is a misunderstood masterpiece. I still love it more than 7.
It's okay to like things that suck
masterpiece is a biiiig stretch. but it was the number one most fun tekken until T8 came
@@parry3439 I know i'm overselling it a bit, the game does have it's flaws, but the moves in most characters are closer to tekken 7 than they are to 6, there's no rage art shenanigans, the AI is not as braindead as it was in 7, you can play 1v1, 1v2 or 2v2, the character interactions are fun and it has the most complete cast of characters from all tekken games, I dont think we've had a playable Jinpachi in any other tekken, not even 5.
Plus you can't tell me that Snoop Dogg map wasn't fun as heck.
I didn't buy it in the day cause i thought it was just 2v2 tk6, but it is now my favourite game in the series, havn't played 8 yet, will buy it asap tho.
@@CErra310 Amen
@@CErra310thing is tag 2 didn't suck, it didn't bomb because the game was bad. It bombed because fighting games weren't as popular in the early 2010s and it was released at the end of the PS3 era. It also had no post launch support and it came after Tekken 6 which was the actual mainline game that bombed, tag 2 is based on Tekken 6's gameplay so people probably perceived that as being more of the same
I dont play fighting games, so half of the time I have no clue what you are talking about, but it is still really nice listening to you. Keep up the good work man
Yeah I thought some people might have it go over their head haha. I should probably do better at explaining for people who aren't in the know, but this video was mostly unscripted as opposed to my other videos.
Glad you enjoyed regardless!
Thats so bullshit, every tekken game that came out was popular and still brings back old nostalgists to play this game. The only one that put people off was tekken 4 due to the changes it had, but with time people appreciated that game even more. Tekken 5 is my favourite
This reads like a movie critic who watched an anime for the first time and reviewed it like it was a blockbuster, using AI to ask what Tekken is about.
Intro - Tekken 4's intro is def cooler, but it only shows off like 4 characters. Tekken 8 at LEAST shows off like... 8 characters! Or maybe.... all of them? It's hard to fit them all into something coherent, but at least showing the story battle is a decent approach. Also immediately skimming past 5's intro cause it completely disregards your statement is hilarious! The same "issues" persist for both intros
Fighting Styles - There's not enough UNIQUE marshal arts to go around, g. Even if there are, they would have very few actual techniques that could be transcribed into moves for the games. Who cares if Chinese MA #300 has 4 moves that could work, it's not enough to build a character over. The Tekken team would rather spend the money on something potentially cool than boring anyway.
Ranked Titles - Tekken's always had these ranks so they decided to stick with them. But sticking to something is bad, right? Oh wait no everybody wants them to stick to only martial arts!! Oh my!! we have quite the dichotomy! God of Destruction is whatever, DBFZ has the exact same title in ranked too, obviously fitting way better there but I digress. The titles past Tekken King are obviously made to one-up one another, and it somehow ended there ig. In the wise words of Eminem "Why be a king, when you can be a god?"
Rank Cheater - Yeah you're right, but like, name one game that doesn't have cheaters that all give themselves like 99999 points on the leaderboard? Yeah, every company struggles with that, singling out Tekken is just dishonest. For reviews like this, talk about TEKKEN!!! not some issues that persist through literally ALL MP games.
Also calling the story bad is just... man. Like watch any Tekken RUclipsr play it and they enjoy it immensely. Saying nothing happened is just retarqed, honestly. Were your eyes shut? Do you know what a Tekken is? Is this Tekken in the room with us? You're always comparing SF6 to Tekken so let's go, let's play your game then! Did you like SF6's story? How did you like their character episodes? Did something happen at least?
overall I give this review about an 8/10. For Tekken 8.
Disregard what I said, you liked the game and that's all that mattered :)
I was gonna say quite a few points but other people have already made those so Ill say this instead: Tekken 8 is aggressive, for a tekken game.
Not by the standards of other fighting games. Tekkens systems have always been inherently balanced in favour of the defender rather than the attacker, you can duck and sidestep either side, arenas are bigger, movement is hard and most characters dont have many long range moves compared to other fighting games.
To compare it to 2 other fighting games: Melee and DBFZ. Melee is also about movement but its stages are much smaller, hitboxes are bigger and characters have lots of ways to approach from the air or ground. This makes it so that getting in your opponent and pressuring with aerials and the like is basically unpunishble if you do it right favouring offense. With DBFZ characters can teleport, dragon dash and have many ways to beat blocking so enforcing mix ups is the name of the game.
Tekken 8 as aggressive as it is can't compare to that level of aggression, nor should it considering the scale and complexity of the game systems. Tekken 8 gives as many offensive options and defensive, its just that the defense was already there from the start and the offense only came here
The whole video is just like "TEKKEN is good but Street fighter is better" What a fanboy
The Tekken 8 Opening theme is so cheesy but I adore it so much. I absolutely love how over the top it is.
I love both SF6 and T8, they have world tour mode and arcade quest, which is possibly the main attraction that appeals to newcomers and casuals into the franchise, essentially teaching them the fundamentals of inputs and basic combos.
Yes, its crazy how similar the design philosophy's of both Capcom and Namco were going into the next games.
A big part of the reason MK1 is behind.
1:12 to be fair. Thats just the type of music Japanese arcade gamers like
Any other examples?
@@YB_. street fighter
@@YB_.arcade rhythm games
Wilding with the story mode take, it was peak
tbf, I never said it was BAD, just entertaining. I don't think anyone is gonna compare Tekken 8's story mode to Shakespeare, but that doesn't mean it was straight up bad.
@@Ardrid_ I agree tbh, not every narrative has to be Shakespearean in storytelling. Jin's development went hard tho🗣️💯
@@vaudevillevillain21Exactly.
All that "Believe in Your Heart/Embrace Life" stuff is something I'm all about.
Good message there.
It was perfect.
Because Tekken is never about story. 😂
It's perfect bc they keep every option open for next game' story when nothing changed.
But it's not like nothing's happening in story, it's fun and that's all I expect and want.
No it wasn't,there were some good parts but half of it didn't even make sense or was overly prolonged
The beginning of the video is wrong.
The downward spiral was after Tk5 which was very popular and successful.
T6 sold less than expected but that doesn't mean it was a failure, while TT2 sales were poor.
But to propagate that Tekken went down hill all the way from T3 in the 90s until T7 in 2017 is false.
Hopefully Soulcalibur VII will get a budget/support from Bamco AND the FGC. It becomes more and more apparent how well designed and *actually* intuitive Soulcalibur's design is the more I learn about Tekken's inconsistent rules. I mean, over half the cast of SCVI had longer movelists than King in T7 (and 11 have more moves than he does in T8) but no one makes videos talking about how impenetrable SC is because the movelists are actually organized and the game actually adheres to universal rules.
That's a great point you made at around 21:00. I think we can look towards Smash Melee though as an example of aggressive-focused gameplay not becoming stale as long as there are good and creative movement options. Player expression through movement is so entertaining
I didn't neccesarily mean through just movement, I just meant when aggression and defense are equally strong from a core gameplay standpoint. Movement does play a part in that, but the general safety of moves in Melee, the relatively high shield stun compared to the rest of the series and how strong combos are whilst still giving you strong escape options out of them means theres a good amount of risk reward when deciding whether to be aggressive or defensive in Melee.
the jin and kazuya fight at the end was awesome
Here's the thing, Tekken 3 was one of the highest selling fighting games of all time and yet TTT 1 had low sales by comparison selling only about 28% of Tekken 3 sales.
The fact that TTT2 came after Tekken 6 (which wasn't even half as popular as Tekken 5) guaranteed TTT2 would be the worst selling tekken of all time up until that point (yet still managing 43% of Tekken 6 says, thus by percentage comparison performing a lot better than the original TTT).
TTT2 is still the most fun I've had in a Tekken game and I'm playing Tekken 8 rn (for the last almost 3 weeks) and that's still the case even though I know the internet hates it (especially online only players who often ruin game enjoyment anyway). Tekken 8 really does feel a lot like Tekken 7 part 2.
And despite all of Tekken 7's content, for someone who has played all of the Tekken games (except for Dark Resurrection on PSP) over the span of 27 years, TTT2 really was the last game that felt like a Tekken game.
Now it's more of a Street Fighter light show with Tekken Characters.
Fujin’s a god, that’s why it’s above ruler ranks.
19:22 small correction, backdashing actually got buffed too, what got nerfed is Korean Back Dash Cancelling. Its still useful, just not as necessary anymore since backdashing in T7 was garbage.
nice review btw
Ah yes technically correct. Korean Backdash was what I was referring to when I meant "backdashing was nerfed", to clarify.
Thanks!
Hi there. Fighting game lover who Loves the Tekken franchise and currently having a Ball with Tekken8. I enjoy your articulation of this game. I absolutely love Tekken7 and u describing Tekken8 as T7 with a Budget is perfect. Also I should point out that many FG players both Casual and Pro's have collectively agreed that Tekken8 has the best FG story to date. Believe me the ones saying that are Mortal Kombat fans. But considering all mk fans got was...... invasions and.....a passable story..... Yeah Tekken8 is Gr8
moving from the grounded approach was key for the hype, honestly. Been playing since 3 and I'm all for it!!
This is such a great video and analysis of Tekken - funny, informative, brings other games into discussion and I loved the edit of Tekken 8's intro. Keep this up!
Thanks!
Used to hate the set matches but it makes sense now
Tekken is fun but i wont lie i kinda enjoyed the defensive playstyle of tekken 7. So far from what ive seen alot of tekken 8 is similar. The pressure and offence is easier to access but theres still alot about this game thats amazing
Tekken 5 got the same sales as tekken 3 so saying after tekken 3 tekken went on a downward spiral in popularity is a lie
Yeah, Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection on the PSP was pretty popular.
Tekken 5 was a massive commercial success with over 8 million copies sold.
I might get Tekken 8 after all. Seems cool all around and also after seeing lots of vids and screenshots of the bonkers level of customization for the fighters just further convinces me.
The game is very fun regardless if you are a competitive nut or just someone who wants to button mash.
It's amazing what you can do with the customization options, specially considering that it is a downgrade from previous Tekken. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 was peak in customization.
@@ichl46 i really want this on xbox 50 pound is still alot for me lul
I'm probably gonna get it when it's below 30 or sum
@@TiredAsl Yeah g
as far as tiering system for tekken goes, i think its unique that they dont do the standard metal to alloy rank most games go...the names are gonna sound cringe depending on who you ask though lol. Also mighty ruler is lower than fujin because fujin is a wind god, and god of destruction is currently the best description for an absolute beast of a fighter (its currently the summit of power in dragonball for a reason)
There’s no punishment for unplugging online in ranked That needs to be fixed but as far as ranking up goes. It doesn’t take a long time if you get a win streak. I was getting like 1000points per game on a nine win streak in ranked
Yeah that is an issue I forgot to mention, fuck pluggers LOL.
Also I didn't know winstreak bonuses were a thing in this game, do they stop after a certain rank like in SF6 or did they continue regardless of your rank?
Tekken 8, with its magic 🪄 martial artists, should try to get Dr. Strange as a guest character.
yes, snowman talks about fight game
I do like talk about fight game.
@@Ardrid_I also enjoy play fight games 💯
@@Ardrid_
26. November 2007 T6
14. September 2011 TT2
18. Februar 2015 T7
26. Januar 2024. T8
U spot anything here sir?
@@Ardrid_ dont get me wrong i didnt watched the vid but guessing what ts about it but what i believe is that ure not a tekken vetaran and this title alone already made me put work in this cent to solve ur problem in this video i didnt watch😂
@@GuyWithZen459 so i really hope i get an answer and let me know if i was right
hope tekken 9 or 10 will returns to industrial, more grounded like tekken 4. with fewer characters but more individual character stories and not what if.
TTT2 was for people who grew up playing the original Tekken games and especially Tekken 3 and 5
Tekken 8 is a lot more for Gen Z kids who may have only started playing Tekken at Tekken 6 and are not familiar with or used to what the essence of Tekken ever was.
Also for Tekken 7 & SF x Tekken fans.
10:39 That opening music video is so hard. Almost made me shed a tear first time it played. God I wish Japan was real.
Not gonna deny that when it came on at the end of story mode, it was hype af.
I find it amazing how many moves each character has, and Tekken is one of the fighters with the most characters, that's insane to me.
Fighting games recently have just been killing it with ways to get new players into them. Guilty Gear had incredible tutorials, Granblue had the simplified inputs, SF6 had modern controls, and now Tekken 8 has all of this stuff. It's amazing and I think fighting games have never been more accessible than now
Tekken8 training mode is an amazing piece of work, has all the same tools as SF6. Why do you rate it a little less than SF?
It's better than SF6 training mode to me
You are almost completely wrong in your video. TTT2 didn't "almost kill the franchise". Harada himself said it, yes TTT2 failed to be a commercial success, but it never was anything close to put the entire franchise in a risk of disappearing. I mean look at Soul Calibur. SCV did even worse than TTT2 in sales (in hindsight, as a 3D fighter SCV was objectively much worse than TTT2) and that didn't stop them from making SCVI and surely SC7 will occur at some point in the future as well. So it should be easy to understand that "TTT2 almost killed Tekken" is just a rumor spreaded by some very well known Swedish troll RUclips/Twitch streamer (who is currently known to badmouth and demonize TTT2 in his streams, yet he played it enthusiastically back in the day). It's hard to believe that if a second-rate franchise like Soul Calibur, which did far far worse than Tekken did at the same time period, yet was not let down by its developers, then how such a mainstay game series for Bandai Namco as Tekken is, would be getting such fate? No way. It wasn't going to happen.
TTT2's failure to make it big was due to a bunch of factors almost completely unrelated to that game's quality, namely, poor timing - TTT2 had to compete against SFIV and MK9, both of which were, at the time, heralded as the titles that would bring SF and MK back from their own pitholes they had gotten themselves into. There was great expectation to see both Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat's return to glory, and the fighting player community was absolutely hyped for either of them, or both, so TTT2 just went under the radar for most. Also, Bamco failed to market TTT2 as much as they needed to, there was never a "Tekken World Tour" for TTT2 when the game was fresh, nor did they do a massive Twitter campaign to publicize the game as they would do later for T7. And, the most unfortunate and depressing of all, Bamco never made the decision to port TTT2 into Steam as it was done with both SFIV and MK9 (again). Bamco naively believed TTT2 would hit big sales almost on its own so they planned to push other fighting games for PC (Rise of Incarnates) and left TTT2 to look for itself.
After the weak TTT2 sales and the complete failure of Rise of Incarnates - Bamco's intended fighting game for Steam - all those mistakes were compounded for T7, and it was THAT which made the difference. Because of its smaller budget T7 has positively worse quality than TTT2 in almost every aspect - graphics, visual presentation, character balance, networking, offline content, you name it - yet it sold big because A) it moved onto Steam, something TTT2 never did and B) a flurry of publicity via Twitter, TWT events, constant patches and DLC content etc etc.
Tekken 8 changed the established combat direction so much i cant say its t7 with money but in other aspects i can agree.
I partly agree with what you’re saying about aggression getting old like defensive play if it becomes the dominant strategy. On the other hand I think aggressive games are generally more interesting because they tend to be more interactive. A balance is best though of course
sorry but the tekken 8 story mode wasn't for you if you truly didn't find it good or even great, it was for the fans of the series that have followed it for god knows how long and the people who actually looked into the games story
New Ardrid video, Lets go!
Oh yeah
You're still alive great to see
Yes I am very alive rn.
confusing title, makes it seem like you are saying tekken 8 is cheaper than 7
7:53 - yes there were character episodes in Tekken 7, fully animated. You are incorrect here.
Il never forget seeing Chloe teach Eddy how to be a popstar
That Yoshimitsu AI had me dying 😂😂😂.
Nobody:
Hwoarang when dying: "Hwaaaahhhh!"
This is the first video I've watched on your channel. Just wanted to let you know that your editing ist just incredible. Subscribed!
Wow thanks! And I considered this one of my lesser edited videos...
It’s literally the best story line. What are you talking about
i will always get nostalgic for "solitude"
also shoutout the yoshi mains
yoshimitsu truly is the greatest character of all time.
Tekken 8 has a frame meter, the game is well balanced between offence and defence. Lastly being experienced in tekken is the same as being experienced in street fighter. Try to beat my friend playing ryu for over a decade as a newcomer lol
I’m glad that the money I spent on 7 and its DLC was able to help boost 8
I think the naming convention for tekken's ranking system js good, cuz nobody is gonna look at "Usurpur" and think your bad at the game, like how people make fun of Gold nova km csgo. Every rank sounds cool and looks cool. Also the naming convention like kyu and dan are based on karate/judo while Genbu and Suzaku are mythical beast. While Fujin and Ryujin are gods, so it checks out when the final rank is "GOD OF DESTRUCTION".
That's fair, it's not really a bad thing, it's just that a simple "Iron/Bronze/Silver/Gold" etc. is easier to understand for people than Karate ranks, which are well known but you'd need someone who has done karate to know those (I wouldn't be able to tell you the different ranks in karate/judo, although that is an anecdotal experience.)
Naw cuz why Tekken 5 ain't getting the recognition it deserves
How was tekken 5 in a downward spiral? It sold close to tekken 3
I said "a MOSTLY downward spiral" for a reason.
I hope the hyper aggressive playstyle doesn't mess up this game. I remember people saying feng was heavily defensive in tekken 7
tekken 8 has frame data in the bottom that training mode is pretty cool especially recording and retrying different instances personal example is azucenas up+ 3, up +4 bamboozles me every time so i can record it and study how to get hit a bit less or throw other mixes into it and have it be randomized to block strings
Tekken tag 2 got me into tekken
im now purple ranks steve in tekken 8
i have reached raijin with steve in tekken 8
why even bother comparing tekken 8 to sf6, it's kinda biased which makes the video have no sense of direction lol
T8 has the worst customization ever. They even started cracking down on saved colors. That look like skin color. It'll be defaulted to a bright red. Harada took ESG money and it shows. With few exception, most of the females don't have cleavage showing outfits.
Forced 50/50s as a central mechanic and totally nerfed movement will not do this game favors in the long run once the honeymoon period is over with casuals and MK/SF refugees.
People who say this most likely do not play the game. The 50/50s are tied to moves that give you a 50/50 on hit in the old games anyway. And the backdashing is basically the same, it's just the difference between regular backdash and KBD is smaller
@@shaghilathar3588Are you gatekeeping observations? I am a multiple max rank player t6-t7 and I agree too. And you are wrong about the forced 50/50 situations, db1 for example from xiaoyu is just one example of where you can throw it out until you get a forced 50/50 as opposed to Tekken 7 where it was a knockdown and went back to neutral. I seriously question if you yourself play the game as this is a serious change in high level balancing.
@@KyeCreates Knocking someone down already gives you a 50/50 in the first place
@@shaghilathar3588 Definitely not, especially with characters like said xiaoyu with no options to really enforce that unless you're like a red rank or something.
@@KyeCreates Almost every character gets a 50/50 with a knockdown otherwise you're saying they have basically no oki. Xiao from what I can remember has that setup where she can jump over you for example
Make the character portraits bigger on the character select screen, Bamco. The T8 portraits are so tiny compared to previous Tekkens.
Seriously, Tekken is supposed to be epic and the tiny portraits immediately stood out to me as kind of odd. I want the feeling of the character select roster to feel huge, both in terms of number of selectable characters and the presence of the icons feeling larger than life.
Solitude gives me fucking CHILLS! They really want hard af with the OST in tekken 7
great vid
story mode is the least important thing in fighting games and its even greater for tekken cus the journey of learning the game is the story
I'm alomst rank Garyu on with a few characters and I have to admit, I feel kinda bad because I have such an advantage over newer players from play TEKKEN for so long. I'm 31, I got into Tekken in 2003ish and I've been playing since.
did you just never look at the giant box in training telling you the exact numbers of all of the frame dat?
Tekken is and always has been more casual friendly than SF. You can pick up the game, pick any number of characters and actually feel like you’re doing something, until advent of modern controls in SF, this was impossible.
I do get that you said "mostly" downward spiral but i don't really think you ought to show Tekken 5 for PS2 in that list while saying that, it was a huge release and to some still the best game in the series.
If I didn't show it, i'd be getting comments then saying "where's Tekken 5!?", so I just showed it so I had every main Tekken game on there. I know that Tekken 5 is a high point in the series, especially in Dark Ressurection.
@@Ardrid_ true enough. Tekken is weird. It has entries that sell loads of copies but people don't seem to think of a game like Tekken 6 as a game with the status of something like it's generational peer Street Fighter IV.
Arguably people act like the series was just "3, 5 and 7" and the others must have been "whatever"
tek tag2 got me into the series lol
Same
I like Tekken 8 but I love how dark Tekken 7 Feels. If you remove Angel Jin, added Fhakramrum and made Tekken 8 dark I would actually love it
So far I think that Tekken 8 is a masterpiece. They made pretty much every right mov e as a followup to tekken 7. They took all the best parts of tekken 7, kept them in this game; then they cut all the bullshit, gave us what we wanted, and made it look and feel amazing. I think this is a better game than tekken 7, and I think all the quality of life adjustments are going to be well appreciated by veterans and newcomers alike.
I think Tekken really does need faster ranking. In 7 you can play like a match and get 2000 rank points and then the next you get 90.
E V E R Y O N E that is new to tekken is now raging as soon as they get rage.
idk if im slow or perhaps you misspke but what about sf6 training is better than T8 training? cause pff the top of my head they both have all the same options but id argue tekken has more training options in the replay and punishment training. but i heard you mention frame data but t8 has that too so just wondering the thoughts behind ya statment .
I feel like Street Fighter 6's UI for training mode is easier to understand than Tekken 8's (which is ironic because the only major issue for SF6 imo is that its UI outside of training mode is confusing as hell). It doesn't just teach you what you can do but WHY those things are good. Tekken 8 doesn't have character tutorials or combo trials that are extensive and detailed as SF6's, and I truly think the introduction of the Frame Meter into SF6 is THAT big of an improvement. It made something as obtuse and hard to understand for newcomers like Frame Data and gave it a visual explanation thats easy to read, has a simple explanation for what all the bars mean in-game, and other things. Tekken does have the frame data in-game thankfully for free this time, but you'd probably still need someone to explain to you what the hell that number even means if you didn't know already beforehand, whilst I don't think I could say the same about SF6. It even teaches you specific move properties like invincibility frames through the different bar colours, which Tekken 8 doesn't do to my knowledge.
Also I think there are minor things like SF6's ability for you to choose the dummy's actions without having to directly record them are more extensive than Tekken 8's, and allow for a greater variety of things it lets you do. I can reliably set up reasonabaly complex situations in SF6 without having to record a single thing specifically, which is a nice thing in streamlining the game.
However, looking back on it now I would say that Tekken 8's training mode is a lot more on par with SF6's than I made it out to be in the video, although I don't think its quite there yet.
@@Ardrid_ oh alright that makes a lot of sense, I'm a legacy Tekken player from the very first Tekken on PlayStation 1, and while I've played all the street fighter games it would be disingenuous to say I played them equally I absolutely love Tekken and feel like it's the best fighting game franchise. I didn't know about alot of the extra options in SF 6 I kinda just learned the new mechanics and just combo practiced like a casual 😂 but this explanation makes me Wana boot the game up and try it out with this new knowledge I might start to enjoy it more. I appreciate you taking the time out to answer my question. You just gained a new subscriber as this is the first video I have seen of you and I did enjoy the video.
@@Ldarkkratos Thanks. I don't do only fighting game content if you look at my channel, but I have a fair few on here already and more planned eventually because I just like the genre.
Tbf, theres only 3 grab breaks for the million grabs, either 1, 2, or 1+2. One hand, other hand, both hands
T8 has 3 major flaws for me, as a longtime fan.
1. Why has the customization been on a consistent downgrade post-T6? They should be ADDING things like T3 and T5 King, instead they're REMOVING things like full-body Jaguar King. But its still better than MK1 only offering you 1 slot per character, and it isn't $10/skin. Still disappointing, but I'm being fair.
2. They did not need to canonically undo Ogre's main feat to put Jun in the game if **SPOILERS** her only appearance in the story is in Jin's head. When I fought Azazel the first time, I was positive they were bringing back Ogre for a Jin/Jun story chapter, and it never happened. I'd have left it a mystery until T9 as to whether she's really alive. And even if she is, I'd have made it that Ogre DID kill her, but her Angel powers allowed her to pass back to the reaom of the living.
3. There is NOTHING for Heihachi legacy fans. I expected Reina to play a lot more like Hei. My solution: Mokujin comes as DLC, with his base style being Heihachi, but you can switch with R3 like Unknown. Maybe he has a small chance to become other characters that we know won't be DLC like Baek or Kazumi.
And a smaller complaint, but no Team Battle? REALLY?!?!?
I'd personally want mokujin to come back like he always has been, but there's a chance you get heihachi and other missing characters. Id pay plenty for that, and only that.
I get what you’re saying about Ogre, but:
1) his rep was already heavily tarnished when Bruce, Baek, Wang and Ganryu all returned in Tekken 5 after heavy implication Ogre killed them all with their absence in Tekken 3 and 4 and him having at least 1 of their moves. I know many (gen Z in particular) have a soft spot for Tekken 5 but it was the point where Namco began giving up on the lore.
2) I can’t peg exactly where he started saying it, but Harada has referred to Jun as ‘missing’ rather than outright dead for quite some time now to leave the door open for her return.
As for Heihachi, well, there’s not supposed to be anything identical for his legacy players, as was the case with characters like Josie and Leroy being spiritual successors to similar absent characters rather than mere model swaps, plus he had been redundant competitively for a while (in a vacuum, he was probably better than Kazuya at least), and Reina so far has been a well-received revamp to the ‘aggressive Mishima’ sub archetype.
@@strykah92 Gen z most likely would have played Tekken 6, not 5. And Josie is essentially Bruce with a lesser budget and a fictional moveset 😂
@@KyeCreates Actually incorrect. I'm Gen Z (well, Zillenial) and the first Tekken I played was technically Tag Tournament 1 but Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection for the PSP was the first Tekken game I owned. Same with peers at school.
@@YB_. "Most likely" ^.
For most of the people i know, they played t6 or tag 2.
I've been playing Tekken since Tag Tournament. Victor is just cool as fuck.
is there any reason why you dont compare it to mk1 😭
Apparently, the budget wasn't enough to avoid using mutant Harada netcode.
Rage art is the only thing keeping me from giving this a full 10 out of 10
Bruh I don't think tekken was ever failing every game live as hell
I know this sounds dumb, but I own the game and never actually watched the Tekken 8 intro. That shit is hype AF!
You think a mighty ruler is more powerful then a wind god?
I knew it probably meant something like that in Japanese, but my point then would be that nobody outside of Japan is going to know that. They'd just see Mighty Ruler and random word they don't know being higher.
If they translated those ranks to English, then it wouldn't be as much of a deal.
@@Ardrid_ brother if you watch anime, or are a tekken fan it isn't hard to decipher. Raijin? Flying Raijin? Get it?
@@WavyJayZNot everyone that watches anime is intimately familiar with aspects of the Japanese language, although now that you've explained Fujin being higher than Mighty Ruler does make sense.
how is smash hard to understand lol
but anyway i am really glad Tekken 7 & Tekken 8 propelled the serie higher
Defense isn’t boring because it’s prevalent it’s boring because no one is hitting anyone
fujin means "wind god" so i don't think it's weird at all that it's higher than mighty ruler
I’m gonna buy it!! When its 40€ it will be mine
13:35 ...quite sounds to me like Namco saw how _Gran Turismo Sport_ and 7 players can rank up their sportsmanship rating from E to B within a day then blow it back down by smacking onto drivers who expect you (by your SR precisely) to at least try and be somewhat decent... and pushed so hard in the opposite direction that it feels unbearable.
Harada didn't create Tekken
TEKKEN 1
@@Jabermania ?
The net code on ps5 has so far been immaculate for me
19:23 backdashing has actually been buffed its faster than in t7
Bro this guy is glazing street fighter 6 so much
What rekken did yoy start on....