You just summarised my own feelings on Avowed. The more that is revealed of the game, the less excited I become.... which is a shame, because I generally enjoy Obsidian RPGs. I'll give Avowed the benefit of the doubt at least until release, and I genuinely hope it ends up being a good game that is well received, but at this point my enthusiasm is definitely muted.
I agree. There's nothing wrong with the direction they decided to take, per se. It's just not the Skyrim competitor that a lot of people thought it would be. Glad we know that ahead of time, at least.
Tbf, Obsidian even said a while ago that it wasn't meant to be their Skyrim, so I think some of this, "its not the Skyrim competitor I hoped," line of thinking is honestly just foolish. That said, I would have preferred they went with a full open world game, as that is the kind of RPG I crave more of.
@eternal7912 "foolish" is way too strong a word. You can't blame people for thinking (or hoping) that after the first teaser trailer. Plus, it was originally going to be comparable in size and scope to Skyrim. It wasn't until more recently that they announced the project would be "scaled down."
@@eternal7912 Why is that foolish? That makes no sense. When this game was originally relvealed, it had a completely different tone and it was being talked about by Obsidian themselves as being their own Skyrim, in terms of scope and scale. The purpose of a reveal trailer is to convey to the potential playerbase what the developer is going for. Obsidian then realised that they were biting off more than they could chew. They altered the tone from the first reveal, and scaled everything back. Wishing that it was still going to be that big Skyrim competitor is not "foolish". Whole thing just feels like a big disappointment to me, personally. But it is what it is, and I am glad that there are still lots of people who appreciate their new direction and what they're going for.
It was foolish because outer worlds wasn't fallout. They already set the precedent of differentiating their games from bethesda. (Maybe unreasonable is an easier word to swallow.)
@@Tazza19931 Just backing you up so you know you're not alone- the art change is devastating, it looks way too cartoony. Secondly, Obsidian is riding the coattails of Kotor 2 and New vegas, which admittedly are god-tier games- but their recent catalogue is very lackluster- the Outer Worlds is literally bad. Thirdly, there is nothing wrong with expecting a Skyrim competitor with New Vegas depth. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
Pretty spot on, feel the same. The very first cinematic made me a bit excited for it, and as time went on and more was shown, hype just dropped. The latest one just looked stiff. Dialogue with the NPC's was just off. The animation felt off, bland, and dated. The tone seemed much too vibrant from what I was expecting. And the way they described the combat system 'they' developed for the game is literally nothing new from other games in the last decade. This is a wait and see.
@@eliteextremophile8895 For RPGs, I find that the system in Dying Light 1 works, upgrades are rarely just numerical and additional effects but whole new maneuvers becoming available or more viable allowing for more skill expression and achieve a certain power fantasy eg. adding a dash+riposte option with greater maneuverability allowing you to fulfill a dashing fencer archetype climaxing to a finisher and step back maneuver this being single player allows for more freedom for the devs in creating/allowing mechanics like slow mo sadly, this game is too far into development for changes of this level
The best way I can put it is that the teaser Trailer way back looked like a gritty, deep PC RPG - and this new gameplay footage looks like a blindingly colourful, floaty, console action adventure. For those who like that kind of thing, great - but it's not for me, and not what I was excited about. I wrote much the same, except in more detail, under Obsidians Video, but it appears they privated that after it got tons of productive criticism in the comments, just for it to be reuploaded with suddenly majority positive ones. Save to say, despite still hoping for the best ofc, my excitement for the game has died down almost completely.
@@jamieo8840 PoE was fairly gritty with a lot of pretty dark set pieces - imagery like the Hanging Tree, the Old City and various engwithan ruins come to mind. PoE 2 overall was brighter, yes, but I also liked that a lot less in theme and setting than the first one. Also colour details to break up an environment work a lot differently for a D2 backround which you quickly scan over than in a 3D space, where it's a lot more.. well, in your face.
Granted, this is a new, never before seen, region, so they can do pretty much whatever with it, especially given it's established lore. I'm just not really digging the feel of it. But what they have shown in terms of the animations and combat is of even bigger concerns to me than the vibe of the world. But that at least has a decent chance of still seeing fairly significant improvements until release.
I had the exact same reaction when I saw the gameplay trailer, the teaser trailer looked sick, but the gameplay trailer was just not what I expected, it was way to vibrant and looked almost plastic-y, it heavily reminded of the sea of thieves artstyle, which works great for a pvp pirate game, but doesn't work at all for a single player RPG imo,
@asum7786 animations was my complaint also. There are times where the enemies are attacked in the reveal where there is no physical response to being hit, or the hit animation is the same every time. I'd like too see physical representation of damage done as well. You hit a guy in the shoulder with a sword and there should at least be a wound or if by a fire spell there could be scorch marks
The overall saturation needs to be dialed back. It feels overly... cartoonish, for lack of a better word. Like this art style would be better suited in Fable 2. The game world feels like it'd be something for Ratchet & Clank. The gameplay almost "feels" borderline Sea of Thieves. I was super-hyped for this but now I'm perfectly fine giving it a very hard pass. I'm far more excited about Grim Dawn's upcoming expansion.
Had the exact same thoughts when I saw the trailer last year compared to the teaser. Loved how gritty and real the teaser looked, this looks too stylized and colorful.
@@chrisluvener173 when they’re doing that it looks really good I just don’t get why you would throw wands into that formula as well. It’s like having the force and magic in the same universe.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like there's just something "off" about the combat. It seems almost like very old tech, kind of like it's closer to Oblivion's combat than Skyrim's, when you'd expect it to look _more_ modern than Skyrim. Additionally, the part about "scaling back" has me a bit worried. The biggest issue I had with Outer Worlds was that it felt like half a game, like it seemed the story was just so short, yet it was still marketed and priced as a full priced AAA game. I worry that the same might be true for Avowed.
I've got similar feelings. I'm very disappointed by the shift in tone from that original cinematic. I'm not fond of this oversaturated graphical style. In fact, that was one of the reasons I didn't like Outer Worlds. I will have to wait to see more gameplay, but I find it hard to believe they'd be making adjustments to the art direction they've chosen.
I never had too much hype because I did not care for the outer worlds. In the first cinematic I thought it looked cool but I was worried after the outer worlds that it would be flooded with poop joke level humor. The more I've seen the less enthused I have got. I'll give it a shot, but i have game pass so it will be free. I usually still buy games i am hyped for even if they are on game pass.
I personally like the art style and am still hyped about this game. I think one of the things I'm most excited about is the magic. That said, there is something about the gameplay that seems off to me. Maybe its just too stiff and snappy.
it's hard for me to say how to feel about Avowed... so it looked better than what the first teaser looked like, but the attacks seemed pretty slow... the best I can say about it right now is that it's like skyrim but better looking?, but at the same time the mods (which are free) make Skyrim look almost as good if not better. they talked a lot about the combat mechanics but it just reminded me of skyrim but somehow seemed slower ? it's pointless to talk about the story and the effects of the decision until it's released... but the fact that the playable races are only humans and elves is a strange choice, at least for me, in the world of Eora there are much more interesting races that would certainly have made the game more interesting.
I love the vibrant fantasy graphics... my only issue was how weak the enemy A.I combat look.. it look like they just stand around brainless & dont even really attempt to attack u & when it do show them attempt to attack u it look weak & slow... i dont know if they had the difficulty level on very easy or not but I've seen other games get played with the difficulty level on very easy & the enemy A.I still put in more attack effort than that 💀
Yeah noticed that too, they're trying to make the combat easy so anyone can play that's the same think they did for skyrim hence the non existent combat system in it, I don't like slow combat.
I like the idea of there being a smaller world. A lot of games for the past several of years have worlds that are far too big. By making the game smaller they make it feel denser and focus on making fun quests rather than making content that just exists to fill up the unnecessary space.
I liked the gritty style of the original reveal trailer, it's unfortunate that they made it this... let's say bright? I dunno, I'm just not interested in Avowed as I used to be, so I understand!
I feel like avowed has just been screwed by its marketing. The first inital traller set up a dark tone, the gameplay reveal didnt have a dark tone leading to disapointment, and with this trailer at least for the dialouge, it feels poorly spliced together and along with missing context lesding to the dialouge feeling like shit
I agree with this. The showcase they gave us was not great. The side quest seemed pretty low stakes as far as the worldbuilding goes, and didn't really show off their dialogue system properly. They needed to have a full section of running through a more engaging quest, in my opinion.
@@glowinTHXI liked what i saw of Avowed, but this is just false. PoE 1 has a really mature tone and the art style is grittier and darker than this, a loooot darker. Avowed tone and art style seems relatively similar to PoE 2, that was already a bit brighter (aestethically) and lighter (as for the writing) than the first one. But, and this is an idiot mindset that fantasy and rpg fans have ever since Game of Thrones, darker doesn't mean better. So to me personally isn't a big deal, probably people are slightly underwhelmed because of the cgi reveal trailer, that definitely suggested a dark fantasy RPG game.
I found the latter point to be pretty common in Pillars of Eternity 2, particularly in regards to the Aumaua characters. Many of them just did not sound right. I loved that game, but that's something that always bugged me.
@@Skegfromcraigslist Immersion is not allowed anymore- everything has to be 2024, there is no escape in escapism. Everything needs to feel like you're getting lectured in a Starbucks
You hit the nail on the head with this, the announcement trailer made me thing of a lord of the rings type of world style, but the gameplay trailer reminds me of the fable game worlds
Josh Sawyer did help create the world of Eora that Avowed is set in, even though he's not working on Avowed. You really should check out both Pillars games though.
I felt exactly the same watching the latest trailer. In the original trailer, it looked dark and moody. Had that gritty look to it and had that eerie feel to it. The latest trailer is the complete opposite to what I was expecting. Definitely disheartening to see..
This is funny because 2 years ago they released a statement saying everything this game was and the trailer they showed last summer was exactly what they said it is. You guys wanted it to be Skyrim but after Microsoft bought Bethesda I'm sure Microsoft told them to make it simple just to get a game out for Game Pass.
@@Velly2g I was never expecting another Skyrim, I was though however expecting a different take on the game than this. A statement I knew nothing about to be honest with you? I’ve seen the original trailer and that was all. Looked something potentially exciting. But as Light put it, we’ve instead got a weird cartoony art style that just doesn’t look like it fits well. Game mechanics to me look dated and clunky. Nothing I’ve seen in this latest trailer looks exciting or different in anyway. Just isn’t the direction I was expecting. Guess I was hoping for a more serious take on it as it looked on the original trailer, as I mentioned above a more serious gritty take on it. This for me would be like picking up Fortnite and playing that. It’s okay and you can have fun on it, with its bonkers art style. But you just can’t take it seriously. This Avowed has that vibe to it for me.
@LostInDistance since 2021 they been saying the game is bright and full of color. I guess you didn't read the leaks. The game director is a woman so i don't know where people got this darkness shit from. Before the trailer came out all these monsters were leaked on youtube. I'll judge the game when it comes out.
@@Velly2g The original trailer looked dark and gritty, that’s where most people got the darkness from I’m guessing. All I’ve seen or heard about was the original trailer a few years back. Nope didn’t read any leaks. I’m sure it’ll still be a fun game. Just not expecting anything amazing or original from it.
So the reason I am still hype for this game is because I have actually played both Pillars of Eternity I and II. If you enjoyed Baldur's Gate III, go ahead and try those two games. The world is phenomenal, the mechanics are ripped straight from D&D, and the build possibilities are crazy. I'm excited to see all of those mechanics in a first person game. Basically, imagine a BG style real time first person game. As clunky as it looks, I still have faith. But, yeah, I hope they give a better presentation soon because this is not how they should've showcased the game.
Getting rid of classes for this load out system hurts so bad. I want to play pure mage and I don't know if I can. Are there even any spells in the game that aren't mapped to an ability button?
My assumption is that it will be similar to Skyrim, because I think it's evident to them that everyone very much wants another Skyrim. With that in mind, in Skyrim you very much are encouraged to specialize in something, but depending on the difficulty, you may find it wise to have some backup equipment. Say if you're a mage but you're running out of magic potions, you might switch to a physical weapon to dispatch some enemies. Or what I assume they might be doing here as well is experimenting with enemies having resistances that encourage you to use multiple attack styles. Say if you're a mage that walks into a valley of Magic resistant lizards, it's better to switch to a sword and board. If they go that route, a well rounded character might be better for higher difficulties, but I'd imagine you could still main as one class in others. Also I played a bit of the first PoE, and it seemed to include multiclassing as a requirement, so that might also just be the PoE flavor, a character that is not just 1 trick.
I can't agree more. The first trailer got me super excited, but now, I don't like anything I see, everything you said in the video, is exactly how I feel. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Very fair. I was extremely excited with that first teaser years ago. Now I can only say I’m a little excited. I am certainly very hopeful and optimistic for the game, but I think it’s pretty clear that it will not be delivering the exact same product as was originally advertised. A lot has changed- and some changes might even be for the better, but changed nonetheless. And- maybe this is nitpicky and stupid- but my hype started to truly fade once I heard that there will only be two playable races to choose from. Customizing my character and race was one of my favorite things to do in Skyrim (and most other rpgs) and I knew that Avowed’s predecessor games provided several unique, awesome-looking, and lore-rich races to choose from. So it kinda sucked to wait literal years to hear more about avowed only to find: change in tone, art style, map size, and even character customization. I’ll mooooost likely still be playing Avowed as well, but I’m not nearly *as* hyped. Games like Dragon’s Dogma 2 are really starting to overshadow Avowed for me.
Agree 100 percent. To be fair it was never gonna be my thing really as I have little interest in first person melee combat and the idea of using wands does not appeal to me in the slightest. (Gimme a damn staff lol) but I was expecting a much darker and frankly less clunky spell casting game. Hope its good and people enjoy. I really like obsidion but this does not appeal. Love pillars of eternity 1. Hopefully with the massive BG3 success maybe we get a pillars 3. :)
I feel exactly the same, I hope it's fantastic because I loved New Vegas, but I also played a few of their previous games [Alpha Protocol, KotOR2, Outer Worlds] and the gameplay always feels lackluster and unpolished. As if majority of development went toward the story/characters and then at the last second they remembered you have to have actual gameplay between story segments.
what is this game's story about? can you play as a female mc? is exploration and combat done only in 1st-person? can you play a pure mage from the begining ,no melee?
Why cant a game company go with the classic fantasy style, the classic castle look with skeletons and the iconic wizard and knight looks woth traditional style lore and monsters.
@@bigdaddynero Dogma is one of my all time favorite games- but it's about monster killing, it has little to no RPG elements at all , period. The hunger in the air is for a deeper Skyrim.
Another thing that I'd say really hasn't helped their somewhat seemingly lacklustre showcases of this game is the complete lack of music in them. Not all good games have killer soundtracks (look no further than New Vegas, pretty freakin' good game but no one remembers it for its soundtrack, and no the real life music from the radio doesn't count), but I've very rarely seen a game with a stellar soundtrack be bad. Sooooo where's the music ? I've also never played Pillars 1 & 2, but I did listen to their soundtracks to specifically get an idea of what to expect for Avowed and those soundtracks are good ! Quite Oblivion like soundtracks I'd say, so why not use some music from the game to give off a vibe/set a tone ? Also, I feel like they've not shown enough of what to expect from the world/setting, ie they've not shown enough setpieces/environments (more different biomes, more of the bestiary, populated areas, interiors, etc) and/or items (armours, weapons, etc). Worst case scenario would be that they've actually shown pretty much all what's to expect, which wouldn't be much if that's the case. Like sure those deserty landscapes, rocky coasts or church-like interiors are great and all but ... Are there lush forests ? What about sprawling seemingly endless plains ? Mmmmmaybe a big fortified town with a castle in the centre ? Can we even swim underwater and perhaps explore underwater caves and sunken wrecks ? We lack too much information. I can only assume they'llgive it at least another showing before its full release but if we don't learn much more a few weeks/months before its release then I wouldn't expect much :(
@@alfie6102 it is not just you, bro- it is very, very obviously the polar opposite of pillars of eternity. Yes, Pillars of Eternity has some color- but the tone is extremely bleak, there is a tree of hanged people two minutes into the first game. Avowed is extremely cartoony. What the heck happened here? Haha
The size worries me. Is this gonna be almost like a looter shooter and just repetitive, because there’s nothing to explore after 15/20 hours. I hope you’re wrong, but time will tell. Great video👍🏻
Way too bright and colorful for me. That may appeal to a lot of people, but I myself, and I think many others who were looking forward to this game, were hoping for something more "gritty." This looks like a Marvel movie.
I like the style. My concern is how immersive is this going to be? Is it just going to be Outerworlds ad a fantasy game? If so I will not be too happy. I liked outerworlds, the dialogue was good, the combat was okay. But the world and immersion was horrible. Worlds felt small and exploring was not interesting. I was able to finish everything interesting in about 50 hours where fallout 4 and Skyrim took me almost 7 months. I would choose fallout 4 over Outerworlds.
i get how you feel man. I was excited too from that first teaser, i thought, kool xbox is making a dark rpg that will be awesome. and now it almost doesnt even feel like its a real RPG. it feels like a demo for one. and i think thats xbox getting them to change their vision of the game from a skyrim-like rpg to the cookie cutter 15 hr game that kinda resembles an rpg but anyone and their grandma can pick up and play. like even when you watch the deep dive. its like ok this isnt an rpg. this is just a sandbox grounded kiddy game. like even core elements of a rpg arent even present here. I have no faith in this game at all.
There is a hunger in the air for a deeper Skyrim type game; I used to think some dev out there would take up the cause, but I now think it'll never happen.
Most of the vibrant issues could be overcome with a colourcube shader in post processing. The rest of the gameplay related stuff can't be fixed in post, so I hope the gameplay's right and tight.
I can't believe this is set in Eora... it really feels like they're trying to chase commercial success as opposed to innovation. PoE was truly special. Avowed looks like painfully watered down.
Ew I've never understood people who just took reviews telling them what to play You can get a refund on anything on Xbox and PC easily in the first 2 days to 2 weeks and less than 2 hours playtime unless the game is known to be broken after launch by everyone. Idk about ps5 I haven't returned any games on mine yet considering I knew what I was buying before I bought a ps5
I've always found people who let other people form their opinion on if they'll like a game or not to be people missing out on tons of titles. There's been plenty of badly reviewed games that ended up being a gem to me. Popular channels are just normal people who can have bad takes on gaming, it's extremely common for them to jump on a bandwagon like everyone else. Avowed first trailer definitely made everyone, including myself, overly excited for a game that was never being created to begin with.
You hit the nail on the head with this for me. There's something about the game that looks really awful, and maybe it's simply that the game plays better than it shows. Honestly though, I thought Outer Worlds was a caricature of a video game. I disliked the level design (hallways) and I was barely able to trudge my way through the intro, so I'm hoping that Avowed can at least provide some better level design (which is does seem to be doing, thankfully) and not have such a bloated intro section.
While I did like the Outer Worlds more than you did, I 100% agree with your feelings about Avowed. I am going to pinpoint exactly my concerns: 1. Art style - I have no problem with all sorts of art styles. So, I generally don't care about graphics. However, this game has a rare problem: mismatched art styles. The realistic backgrounds and the weak basic enemy models is VERY jarring and distracting. 2. Interface - the dialogue interface looks odd and clunky and makes me concerned about interface design 3. Floaty combat - I agree combat animations look poor and, on top of that, there does not seem to be any combat feel. You hit something - it falls over, you blow it up - it falls over, you smash it with spells - it falls over. Each of these things alone is not super concerning as most could be fixed, but there is not much time left and more importantly, all of these things together make me feel like the overall design of the game is a bit rudderless or lost. THAT would be very hard to fix.
I believe this will be a mediocre game. Not only from the visuals they have shown so far, which really feel outdated. But simply because Microsoft took the company over. And I do not think this will lead to a good result. Lets face it. Obsidian never was great with "visuals" really. The games they made always looked mediocre. But they had really good writing and ok-gameplay. That is, when their studio was still independed. When they had creative freedom. That is gone however. They are not their own studio anymore. So I do not expect this to go well.
I didn't like The Outer Worlds that much and soured my lofty opinion of Obsidian. That game's 'open world' map was so small and limited, and spent way too much time fast traveling here and there for fetch quests.
It would seem Obsidian's strengths come out when they are under the pump. Smaller budget, far less time (like, under 2 years) and engine and assets from another studio. Also needs Chris Avellone and Josh Sawyer.
I'm still looking forward to this game, but I have to admit that the latest Gameplay showcase reduced my hype too. The combat doesn't look so good and the first cinematic (surprise, surprise...) had a much better vibe, at least for me.
I hate that games make everything sooooo bright, i remember in skyrim i would have to pull up the wait menu to know if it was day or night lol. I hate glowing caves and dark forests where the shadows are as dark as a glass of milk. Good shadows and darkness adds so much visually. Ill never understand it.
Yer obsidian isn't the same anymore sadly and outer worlds proved that to me i liked the game for what it is but i was expecting more specially when they kept saying fallout new vegas devs worked on it but im guessing there all gone now
I keep telling people the great games are attached to the specific Devs that made said game, not the Studio. Halo 1 2 3 ODST, and Reach are connected to the old Devs from Bungie. Not current day 343. Just because Bungie made Destiny doesn't mean it will be better than Original Halo because that team of people left little by the time Destiny 1 life cycle was half way over. I would love Elder Scrolls 6 and Avowed to be deeper based RPGs and have the dice roll system with attributes and skills like The Area, Daggerfall, and Pillars of Eternity but the likelihood of that happening is slim to none. We already see Avowed isn't dice roll in combat. Studio's respect, for all Studios, needs to reset after about 10 to 15 years because that about how long it take to change everyone on the entire said team. Therefore, they must EARN that respect back.
Honestly I wasn’t expecting avowed to be mind blowing gif you remember most if not all of outer worlds hype was either obsidian beat Bethesda to starfield or people acting like it was made as an insult to fallout 76 to the point even obsidian was disappointed my it
This was honestly expected when it was shared that they had scaled down because that's not what Obsidian is good at. But what is Obsidian good at? Certainly not creating a compelling RPG game with engaging characters and dialogue, as it was not noticable in Outer Worlds. And when you have a development team spread thin working on other mediocre games like Pentiment, Grounded, and Outer Worlds 2, the game is not likely going to feel good or finished.
Pentiment is amazing and so are there other recent games like Pillars of Eternity 2. And you say that OW doesn't have engaging dialogue? It's pretty obvious you don't know what you're talking about.
@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 Outer Worlds DOES NOT have engaging anything. Defend POE2 and Pentiment all you'd like- but there is virtually nothing remarkable about Outer Worlds; including the writing
Dunno.. To me new trailer looks way better than previous one. Seems they found some feedback on colors and made some changes. Still guns and goblins look a bit strange and I'm not a huge fan of Obsidian (think it's overhyped because of one clunky mod they've made). But I would like to see some more info.. might be a good game.
I remember seeing ni-no Kuni when I was in college and going "meh". Then years later realizing who made the game and what the premise was... To this day, one of the best games I ever played. To be fair tho, I wasn't looking at any media, just saw the vague art on the case and laughing it off as childish. But I have to agree with you and I'm a major pillars fan. It'll be on game pass so I'll try it day one but, the more I've seen, the less pumped I am
Avowed completely ditched stats and skills, and instead its just a perk system like Skyrim. That's the final straw for me. This went from being my most hyped game since it was originally announced, to me probably avoiding it completely. I thought Obsidian would be one of the last devs to still embrace real role-playing mechanics because they gave us PoE, but they've abandoned that completely.
@@captbloodbeard i can see that, advancements in AI will make asset creation significantly faster, that's the biggest bottleneck in games like this. So in the future a small team could pull this off.
I probably will not buy this game on launch, if anything I’ll wait for it to go on sale on Steam or just skip it entirely. I already decided to get Stalker 2 & with how expensive games are getting these days I don’t have the money or care to spend lots of money on 3 or more $70 titles. There’s rumors that Blizzard & others are looking to raise the price of games even more to something like $100. With how things are going in the industry (Broken uncompleted games, lots of micro transactions, now rumors of $100 games) it’s surprising these companies don’t realize people will buy fewer games if the initial price of them keeps going up. They won’t be able to get away with broken uncomplicated games anymore if a game is $100 & most people only will buy 2-3 games.
It looks like generic garbage pushed out by a studio that was bought out and no longer can create. I am really hoping the story/character aspects are WAY better than what we have seen so far. It's not looking good.
It looks boring and unpolished. The voice acting is extremely unprofessional sounding and looking. The gameplay looks pretty mundane and honestly not that interesting. I bet its going to come out and people will flock to it like blind chickens and then stop talking about it after like a week or two just like starfield. That or its going to be forgotten before it even comes out which is already looking to be the case. Im more hyped for indana jones which imo is a good thing because i personally love indana jones and grew up watching it as a kid.
7:20 I actually think the lip sync is quite good considering this is a game with a huge amount of dialogue. RPGs like this should be compared to action adventure games with respect to graphics and animations and lip sync.
I’m so pumped for this game, Poe always did a great job of balancing the high fantasy and dark fantasy, this is right in that wheel house, and I think the graphics looks great idk, it’s not red dead or anything but it looks awesome the scales on the skin is a chefs kiss
DUDE!!, stop apologizing for having an opinion!!, two minutes into the video and you have apologized like 3 times. It is your opinion, of someone doesn't like it, too bad for them, so what?, only positive opinions are acceptable, otherwise you have to be constantly covering your back?. The psychological damage the internet has done to content creators.
It seems gamers never learn art style /= tone. Oblivion and Morrowind had very bright and colorful art styles and yet had very dark stories. The only reason Skyrim had a dark art style was because it took place in Tamriel which was inspired by nordic cultures and regions.
Yeah I'm with you on this one I was really hoping for a Elder Scrolls type experience The Avowed ain't it 👎🏾I'm definitely disappointed 😕 however The Outer Worlds 2 sounds more promising I can't believe they ruined the potential of a Skyrim type RPG 😔
I think it's cool that obsidian is very inspired by bethesdas games. Like how the outer worlds was undeniably inspired by fallout and now avowed is inspired by the elder scrolls but my issue is that these games are very similar to each other yet obsidians have been smaller in features and size compared to bethesdas games. (exluding new vegas obv). Its like why would i settle for the outer worlds which is basically just fallout but with less features and overall smaller scope when i can just go play fallout? Im feeling the same way with avowed right now. Too its own detriment, its too similar to skyrim without seemingly bringing anything that new to that style of game and at the same time being overall smaller in scope. In my opinion, Obsidian has to really start differentiating themselves from Bethesda and really do more creative and new features and mechanics if they want to keep doing games at this smaller level
The change in tone was a let down for sure, it really seems it went from a cool big Skyrim like style into possibly very tiny zones with oversaturation like The Outer Worlds which I didn't like, also I wonder if the magic is only through wands now, maybe I missed that but the original casting of spells looked cooler (maybe just spells or abilities now idk), I'll give it a shot but at this point I'm most looking forward to using dual wielding anything as well as sword and pistol dual wielding looks cool.
I think it plays like outer worlds in hack and slash. It will be a fun to play, quick to complete RPG. It will be AA at best. Do not go looking for AAA quality and you will live it. I am playing the Outer worlds spacers choice edition. The video looks eerily similar.
I think Avowed is still going to be really good story-wise. Obsidian games never had exceptional gameplay and never had gorgeous visuals. The RPG elements is always what saves Obsidian games, and that is exactly the part that was NOT shown in any showcase or trailer. Its probably just bad marketing decisions from higher ups.
The combat looks like a repeat of the oblivion/skyrim fiasco, where Todd literally admitted it was just meant to "look cool" - just shallow action-y animation spam with no interesting mechanics behind. If it stays like this then hopefully they at least make levelling it more impactful. I love most of the clothes/armour design though PS I think it would be a good idea to reduce the amount of "I'm not hating on the game" disclaimers, it's already evident from the context, you give your reasons, and you already have one in the beginning so if somebody still doesn't get what you're trying to communicate they're not gonna start listening, and it's therefore redundant.
a small world can be fine Kingdom Come Deliverance is a great game. But I think you are right nothing here really impresses me. It all kind of been there done that and super bright.
Yeah, I lost interest pretty quick after the first gameplay trailer. Too pretty and colourful, reminded me of the Outer Worlds, which was okay, but kind meh.
I just want poe3. Hopefully the leveling systems are similar to poe2 rather than a surface level system like skyrim or outer wilds. Level of build crafting in the crpgs of poe2 compared to the garbage of bethesda games just makes me hate the simplistic skill trees most games employ today.
I really enjoyed Outer worlds and Pillars of Eternity. This footage looks a lot like OW, so I am looking forward to Avowed. Only one thing I don't like is a biome of the game, I hate tropics, I hate beaches... and most of all I hate mushrooms growing on animals. So, I am actually looking forward to this game, but I don't really know if I could play it.
Combat looks a little wonky, which is fair considering the game is unfinished, but I'm certain everything else will more than make up for it (assuming they dont fix it before launch) This is Obsidian afterall. Have faith. Or don't. No one's gonna force you to buy it.
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You just summarised my own feelings on Avowed. The more that is revealed of the game, the less excited I become.... which is a shame, because I generally enjoy Obsidian RPGs. I'll give Avowed the benefit of the doubt at least until release, and I genuinely hope it ends up being a good game that is well received, but at this point my enthusiasm is definitely muted.
Prepare for another Outerworlds. Btw I struggled to remember the name for that game
I agree. There's nothing wrong with the direction they decided to take, per se. It's just not the Skyrim competitor that a lot of people thought it would be. Glad we know that ahead of time, at least.
Tbf, Obsidian even said a while ago that it wasn't meant to be their Skyrim, so I think some of this, "its not the Skyrim competitor I hoped," line of thinking is honestly just foolish. That said, I would have preferred they went with a full open world game, as that is the kind of RPG I crave more of.
@eternal7912 "foolish" is way too strong a word. You can't blame people for thinking (or hoping) that after the first teaser trailer. Plus, it was originally going to be comparable in size and scope to Skyrim. It wasn't until more recently that they announced the project would be "scaled down."
@@eternal7912 Why is that foolish? That makes no sense. When this game was originally relvealed, it had a completely different tone and it was being talked about by Obsidian themselves as being their own Skyrim, in terms of scope and scale. The purpose of a reveal trailer is to convey to the potential playerbase what the developer is going for. Obsidian then realised that they were biting off more than they could chew. They altered the tone from the first reveal, and scaled everything back. Wishing that it was still going to be that big Skyrim competitor is not "foolish". Whole thing just feels like a big disappointment to me, personally. But it is what it is, and I am glad that there are still lots of people who appreciate their new direction and what they're going for.
It was foolish because outer worlds wasn't fallout. They already set the precedent of differentiating their games from bethesda. (Maybe unreasonable is an easier word to swallow.)
@@Tazza19931 Just backing you up so you know you're not alone- the art change is devastating, it looks way too cartoony. Secondly, Obsidian is riding the coattails of Kotor 2 and New vegas, which admittedly are god-tier games- but their recent catalogue is very lackluster- the Outer Worlds is literally bad. Thirdly, there is nothing wrong with expecting a Skyrim competitor with New Vegas depth. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
Pretty spot on, feel the same. The very first cinematic made me a bit excited for it, and as time went on and more was shown, hype just dropped. The latest one just looked stiff. Dialogue with the NPC's was just off. The animation felt off, bland, and dated. The tone seemed much too vibrant from what I was expecting. And the way they described the combat system 'they' developed for the game is literally nothing new from other games in the last decade. This is a wait and see.
The thing that sorta surprised me was how bland the melee combat looked, it didn't look impactful enough.
Vermintide 2
First person melee is very hard to pull off
@@chrishance7604especially when you're using rpg mechanics and not real life fight simulation mechanics.
@@eliteextremophile8895 For RPGs, I find that the system in Dying Light 1 works, upgrades are rarely just numerical and additional effects but whole new maneuvers becoming available or more viable allowing for more skill expression and achieve a certain power fantasy
eg. adding a dash+riposte option with greater maneuverability allowing you to fulfill a dashing fencer archetype climaxing to a finisher and step back maneuver
this being single player allows for more freedom for the devs in creating/allowing mechanics like slow mo
sadly, this game is too far into development for changes of this level
The best way I can put it is that the teaser Trailer way back looked like a gritty, deep PC RPG - and this new gameplay footage looks like a blindingly colourful, floaty, console action adventure. For those who like that kind of thing, great - but it's not for me, and not what I was excited about.
I wrote much the same, except in more detail, under Obsidians Video, but it appears they privated that after it got tons of productive criticism in the comments, just for it to be reuploaded with suddenly majority positive ones. Save to say, despite still hoping for the best ofc, my excitement for the game has died down almost completely.
looks like a 3d pillars of eternity to me, which the game is based on
@@jamieo8840 PoE was fairly gritty with a lot of pretty dark set pieces - imagery like the Hanging Tree, the Old City and various engwithan ruins come to mind.
PoE 2 overall was brighter, yes, but I also liked that a lot less in theme and setting than the first one.
Also colour details to break up an environment work a lot differently for a D2 backround which you quickly scan over than in a 3D space, where it's a lot more.. well, in your face.
Granted, this is a new, never before seen, region, so they can do pretty much whatever with it, especially given it's established lore.
I'm just not really digging the feel of it. But what they have shown in terms of the animations and combat is of even bigger concerns to me than the vibe of the world. But that at least has a decent chance of still seeing fairly significant improvements until release.
I had the exact same reaction when I saw the gameplay trailer, the teaser trailer looked sick, but the gameplay trailer was just not what I expected, it was way to vibrant and looked almost plastic-y, it heavily reminded of the sea of thieves artstyle, which works great for a pvp pirate game, but doesn't work at all for a single player RPG imo,
@asum7786 animations was my complaint also. There are times where the enemies are attacked in the reveal where there is no physical response to being hit, or the hit animation is the same every time. I'd like too see physical representation of damage done as well. You hit a guy in the shoulder with a sword and there should at least be a wound or if by a fire spell there could be scorch marks
The overall saturation needs to be dialed back. It feels overly... cartoonish, for lack of a better word. Like this art style would be better suited in Fable 2. The game world feels like it'd be something for Ratchet & Clank. The gameplay almost "feels" borderline Sea of Thieves. I was super-hyped for this but now I'm perfectly fine giving it a very hard pass. I'm far more excited about Grim Dawn's upcoming expansion.
As much as I love Obsidian I hate to say the game looks very mid in every aspect. Let's hope the game ends up being better than it seems.
Had the exact same thoughts when I saw the trailer last year compared to the teaser. Loved how gritty and real the teaser looked, this looks too stylized and colorful.
The magic wand looks super silly for a game like this. Three years ago we got a glowing hand, not a Harry Potter kids wand
I know. The wands just fine seam to fit
@@ecargfosreya the dual wands to me look out of place
The player can use magic with their hand as well rewatch the gameplay. You can see instances of using magic with their hand
@@chrisluvener173 when they’re doing that it looks really good I just don’t get why you would throw wands into that formula as well. It’s like having the force and magic in the same universe.
@@ecargfosreya they probably function differently each having some benefit.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like there's just something "off" about the combat. It seems almost like very old tech, kind of like it's closer to Oblivion's combat than Skyrim's, when you'd expect it to look _more_ modern than Skyrim.
Additionally, the part about "scaling back" has me a bit worried. The biggest issue I had with Outer Worlds was that it felt like half a game, like it seemed the story was just so short, yet it was still marketed and priced as a full priced AAA game. I worry that the same might be true for Avowed.
I thought I was crazy everyone was upselling outer worlds. I thought it felt like half of a game from last decade
I've got similar feelings. I'm very disappointed by the shift in tone from that original cinematic. I'm not fond of this oversaturated graphical style. In fact, that was one of the reasons I didn't like Outer Worlds. I will have to wait to see more gameplay, but I find it hard to believe they'd be making adjustments to the art direction they've chosen.
I never had too much hype because I did not care for the outer worlds. In the first cinematic I thought it looked cool but I was worried after the outer worlds that it would be flooded with poop joke level humor. The more I've seen the less enthused I have got. I'll give it a shot, but i have game pass so it will be free. I usually still buy games i am hyped for even if they are on game pass.
People who have game pass are the vegans of the gaming world
I personally like the art style and am still hyped about this game. I think one of the things I'm most excited about is the magic.
That said, there is something about the gameplay that seems off to me. Maybe its just too stiff and snappy.
I agree... It looks like play-school. Kiddie time.
it's hard for me to say how to feel about Avowed... so it looked better than what the first teaser looked like, but the attacks seemed pretty slow... the best I can say about it right now is that it's like skyrim but better looking?, but at the same time the mods (which are free) make Skyrim look almost as good if not better. they talked a lot about the combat mechanics but it just reminded me of skyrim but somehow seemed slower ? it's pointless to talk about the story and the effects of the decision until it's released... but the fact that the playable races are only humans and elves is a strange choice, at least for me, in the world of Eora there are much more interesting races that would certainly have made the game more interesting.
i mentioned skyrim because this game was originally supposed to be their take on skyrim, but then they scaled down their game.
I love the vibrant fantasy graphics... my only issue was how weak the enemy A.I combat look.. it look like they just stand around brainless & dont even really attempt to attack u & when it do show them attempt to attack u it look weak & slow... i dont know if they had the difficulty level on very easy or not but I've seen other games get played with the difficulty level on very easy & the enemy A.I still put in more attack effort than that 💀
You actually think they would turn up enemy AI when they're trying to show combat? LMAO
Yeah noticed that too, they're trying to make the combat easy so anyone can play that's the same think they did for skyrim hence the non existent combat system in it, I don't like slow combat.
I like the idea of there being a smaller world. A lot of games for the past several of years have worlds that are far too big. By making the game smaller they make it feel denser and focus on making fun quests rather than making content that just exists to fill up the unnecessary space.
I liked the gritty style of the original reveal trailer, it's unfortunate that they made it this... let's say bright? I dunno, I'm just not interested in Avowed as I used to be, so I understand!
I feel like avowed has just been screwed by its marketing. The first inital traller set up a dark tone, the gameplay reveal didnt have a dark tone leading to disapointment, and with this trailer at least for the dialouge, it feels poorly spliced together and along with missing context lesding to the dialouge feeling like shit
I agree with this. The showcase they gave us was not great. The side quest seemed pretty low stakes as far as the worldbuilding goes, and didn't really show off their dialogue system properly. They needed to have a full section of running through a more engaging quest, in my opinion.
I has the exact same art style that Pillars of eternity. For me, it turned out better than expected.
@@glowinTHXI liked what i saw of Avowed, but this is just false. PoE 1 has a really mature tone and the art style is grittier and darker than this, a loooot darker. Avowed tone and art style seems relatively similar to PoE 2, that was already a bit brighter (aestethically) and lighter (as for the writing) than the first one. But, and this is an idiot mindset that fantasy and rpg fans have ever since Game of Thrones, darker doesn't mean better. So to me personally isn't a big deal, probably people are slightly underwhelmed because of the cgi reveal trailer, that definitely suggested a dark fantasy RPG game.
@@glowinTHXno it doesn't it's The Outer Worlds Art style not Pillars.
My main issue is the terrible voice acting. And the voices don't seem like they should be coming from that npc.
I found the latter point to be pretty common in Pillars of Eternity 2, particularly in regards to the Aumaua characters. Many of them just did not sound right. I loved that game, but that's something that always bugged me.
Modern day speak with Californian accents. Also the current day hairstyles, not good.
They sound like they rounded them up off the streets of there USA’s cities
@@Skegfromcraigslist Immersion is not allowed anymore- everything has to be 2024, there is no escape in escapism. Everything needs to feel like you're getting lectured in a Starbucks
You hit the nail on the head with this, the announcement trailer made me thing of a lord of the rings type of world style, but the gameplay trailer reminds me of the fable game worlds
Josh Sawyer did help create the world of Eora that Avowed is set in, even though he's not working on Avowed.
You really should check out both Pillars games though.
I felt exactly the same watching the latest trailer. In the original trailer, it looked dark and moody. Had that gritty look to it and had that eerie feel to it. The latest trailer is the complete opposite to what I was expecting. Definitely disheartening to see..
This is funny because 2 years ago they released a statement saying everything this game was and the trailer they showed last summer was exactly what they said it is. You guys wanted it to be Skyrim but after Microsoft bought Bethesda I'm sure Microsoft told them to make it simple just to get a game out for Game Pass.
@@Velly2g I was never expecting another Skyrim, I was though however expecting a different take on the game than this. A statement I knew nothing about to be honest with you? I’ve seen the original trailer and that was all. Looked something potentially exciting.
But as Light put it, we’ve instead got a weird cartoony art style that just doesn’t look like it fits well. Game mechanics to me look dated and clunky. Nothing I’ve seen in this latest trailer looks exciting or different in anyway. Just isn’t the direction I was expecting. Guess I was hoping for a more serious take on it as it looked on the original trailer, as I mentioned above a more serious gritty take on it. This for me would be like picking up Fortnite and playing that. It’s okay and you can have fun on it, with its bonkers art style. But you just can’t take it seriously. This Avowed has that vibe to it for me.
@LostInDistance since 2021 they been saying the game is bright and full of color. I guess you didn't read the leaks. The game director is a woman so i don't know where people got this darkness shit from. Before the trailer came out all these monsters were leaked on youtube. I'll judge the game when it comes out.
@@Velly2g The original trailer looked dark and gritty, that’s where most people got the darkness from I’m guessing. All I’ve seen or heard about was the original trailer a few years back. Nope didn’t read any leaks. I’m sure it’ll still be a fun game. Just not expecting anything amazing or original from it.
So the reason I am still hype for this game is because I have actually played both Pillars of Eternity I and II. If you enjoyed Baldur's Gate III, go ahead and try those two games.
The world is phenomenal, the mechanics are ripped straight from D&D, and the build possibilities are crazy. I'm excited to see all of those mechanics in a first person game.
Basically, imagine a BG style real time first person game. As clunky as it looks, I still have faith. But, yeah, I hope they give a better presentation soon because this is not how they should've showcased the game.
It will be Outer World: Swords Edition. It will be mid, but enjoyable if you're into that kind of games.
Getting rid of classes for this load out system hurts so bad. I want to play pure mage and I don't know if I can. Are there even any spells in the game that aren't mapped to an ability button?
My assumption is that it will be similar to Skyrim, because I think it's evident to them that everyone very much wants another Skyrim. With that in mind, in Skyrim you very much are encouraged to specialize in something, but depending on the difficulty, you may find it wise to have some backup equipment. Say if you're a mage but you're running out of magic potions, you might switch to a physical weapon to dispatch some enemies. Or what I assume they might be doing here as well is experimenting with enemies having resistances that encourage you to use multiple attack styles. Say if you're a mage that walks into a valley of Magic resistant lizards, it's better to switch to a sword and board.
If they go that route, a well rounded character might be better for higher difficulties, but I'd imagine you could still main as one class in others. Also I played a bit of the first PoE, and it seemed to include multiclassing as a requirement, so that might also just be the PoE flavor, a character that is not just 1 trick.
I can't agree more. The first trailer got me super excited, but now, I don't like anything I see, everything you said in the video, is exactly how I feel. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Very fair. I was extremely excited with that first teaser years ago. Now I can only say I’m a little excited. I am certainly very hopeful and optimistic for the game, but I think it’s pretty clear that it will not be delivering the exact same product as was originally advertised. A lot has changed- and some changes might even be for the better, but changed nonetheless. And- maybe this is nitpicky and stupid- but my hype started to truly fade once I heard that there will only be two playable races to choose from. Customizing my character and race was one of my favorite things to do in Skyrim (and most other rpgs) and I knew that Avowed’s predecessor games provided several unique, awesome-looking, and lore-rich races to choose from. So it kinda sucked to wait literal years to hear more about avowed only to find: change in tone, art style, map size, and even character customization. I’ll mooooost likely still be playing Avowed as well, but I’m not nearly *as* hyped. Games like Dragon’s Dogma 2 are really starting to overshadow Avowed for me.
Agree 100 percent. To be fair it was never gonna be my thing really as I have little interest in first person melee combat and the idea of using wands does not appeal to me in the slightest. (Gimme a damn staff lol) but I was expecting a much darker and frankly less clunky spell casting game. Hope its good and people enjoy. I really like obsidion but this does not appeal. Love pillars of eternity 1. Hopefully with the massive BG3 success maybe we get a pillars 3. :)
As a lover of Skyrim I get more excited the more gets released.
I feel exactly the same, I hope it's fantastic because I loved New Vegas, but I also played a few of their previous games [Alpha Protocol, KotOR2, Outer Worlds] and the gameplay always feels lackluster and unpolished. As if majority of development went toward the story/characters and then at the last second they remembered you have to have actual gameplay between story segments.
The guys who made new Vegas a masterpiece aren’t at obsidian anymore
@@wlot28 that's true!
Basically The Outer Worlds but fantasy setting
what is this game's story about? can you play as a female mc? is exploration and combat done only in 1st-person? can you play a pure mage from the begining ,no melee?
I'm still not seeing 5 games that would make me drop $500 for an Xbox. Gunna stick with Sony for awhile I think.
Why cant a game company go with the classic fantasy style, the classic castle look with skeletons and the iconic wizard and knight looks woth traditional style lore and monsters.
Dragon's Dogma, man.
@@bigdaddynero I'm gonna check that out.
@@damiansmithey1420 Update me with your opinion
@@bigdaddynero Dogma is one of my all time favorite games- but it's about monster killing, it has little to no RPG elements at all , period. The hunger in the air is for a deeper Skyrim.
@@mistersparkles1842 What are you even talking about? Did you read the same comment I read?
Another thing that I'd say really hasn't helped their somewhat seemingly lacklustre showcases of this game is the complete lack of music in them.
Not all good games have killer soundtracks (look no further than New Vegas, pretty freakin' good game but no one remembers it for its soundtrack, and no the real life music from the radio doesn't count), but I've very rarely seen a game with a stellar soundtrack be bad.
Sooooo where's the music ? I've also never played Pillars 1 & 2, but I did listen to their soundtracks to specifically get an idea of what to expect for Avowed and those soundtracks are good ! Quite Oblivion like soundtracks I'd say, so why not use some music from the game to give off a vibe/set a tone ?
Also, I feel like they've not shown enough of what to expect from the world/setting, ie they've not shown enough setpieces/environments (more different biomes, more of the bestiary, populated areas, interiors, etc) and/or items (armours, weapons, etc). Worst case scenario would be that they've actually shown pretty much all what's to expect, which wouldn't be much if that's the case. Like sure those deserty landscapes, rocky coasts or church-like interiors are great and all but ... Are there lush forests ? What about sprawling seemingly endless plains ? Mmmmmaybe a big fortified town with a castle in the centre ? Can we even swim underwater and perhaps explore underwater caves and sunken wrecks ?
We lack too much information. I can only assume they'llgive it at least another showing before its full release but if we don't learn much more a few weeks/months before its release then I wouldn't expect much :(
It doesn't seem to match the Pillars of Eternity universe
@Mike313H Too, vibrant but maybe it's just me
@@alfie6102 it is not just you, bro- it is very, very obviously the polar opposite of pillars of eternity. Yes, Pillars of Eternity has some color- but the tone is extremely bleak, there is a tree of hanged people two minutes into the first game. Avowed is extremely cartoony. What the heck happened here? Haha
The size worries me. Is this gonna be almost like a looter shooter and just repetitive, because there’s nothing to explore after 15/20 hours. I hope you’re wrong, but time will tell. Great video👍🏻
I’m worried it’ll be like tiny Tina wonderlands where it is hyped but dies out real quick
Way too bright and colorful for me. That may appeal to a lot of people, but I myself, and I think many others who were looking forward to this game, were hoping for something more "gritty."
This looks like a Marvel movie.
Its for the fortnite crowd.
@@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148 Who won't play it; weird times where no industry will appeal to its fanbase anywhere anymore.
I like the style. My concern is how immersive is this going to be? Is it just going to be Outerworlds ad a fantasy game? If so I will not be too happy. I liked outerworlds, the dialogue was good, the combat was okay. But the world and immersion was horrible. Worlds felt small and exploring was not interesting. I was able to finish everything interesting in about 50 hours where fallout 4 and Skyrim took me almost 7 months.
I would choose fallout 4 over Outerworlds.
i get how you feel man. I was excited too from that first teaser, i thought, kool xbox is making a dark rpg that will be awesome. and now it almost doesnt even feel like its a real RPG. it feels like a demo for one. and i think thats xbox getting them to change their vision of the game from a skyrim-like rpg to the cookie cutter 15 hr game that kinda resembles an rpg but anyone and their grandma can pick up and play. like even when you watch the deep dive. its like ok this isnt an rpg. this is just a sandbox grounded kiddy game. like even core elements of a rpg arent even present here. I have no faith in this game at all.
There is a hunger in the air for a deeper Skyrim type game; I used to think some dev out there would take up the cause, but I now think it'll never happen.
Most of the vibrant issues could be overcome with a colourcube shader in post processing. The rest of the gameplay related stuff can't be fixed in post, so I hope the gameplay's right and tight.
I can't believe this is set in Eora... it really feels like they're trying to chase commercial success as opposed to innovation. PoE was truly special. Avowed looks like painfully watered down.
People can say whatever they want about me but the no romances thing killed any hype I had.
Same. They apparently shifted from the dark fantasy to typical fantasy setting and they lost me right there.
I watch 5 reviews and then view trailers and based on that accumulated information I decide if I wanna save 70$ or not, this is looking like a not lol
Ew
I've never understood people who just took reviews telling them what to play
You can get a refund on anything on Xbox and PC easily in the first 2 days to 2 weeks and less than 2 hours playtime unless the game is known to be broken after launch by everyone.
Idk about ps5 I haven't returned any games on mine yet considering I knew what I was buying before I bought a ps5
I've always found people who let other people form their opinion on if they'll like a game or not to be people missing out on tons of titles.
There's been plenty of badly reviewed games that ended up being a gem to me. Popular channels are just normal people who can have bad takes on gaming, it's extremely common for them to jump on a bandwagon like everyone else.
Avowed first trailer definitely made everyone, including myself, overly excited for a game that was never being created to begin with.
You hit the nail on the head with this for me. There's something about the game that looks really awful, and maybe it's simply that the game plays better than it shows. Honestly though, I thought Outer Worlds was a caricature of a video game. I disliked the level design (hallways) and I was barely able to trudge my way through the intro, so I'm hoping that Avowed can at least provide some better level design (which is does seem to be doing, thankfully) and not have such a bloated intro section.
Why is gore non-existant now?
While I did like the Outer Worlds more than you did, I 100% agree with your feelings about Avowed. I am going to pinpoint exactly my concerns:
1. Art style - I have no problem with all sorts of art styles. So, I generally don't care about graphics. However, this game has a rare problem: mismatched art styles. The realistic backgrounds and the weak basic enemy models is VERY jarring and distracting.
2. Interface - the dialogue interface looks odd and clunky and makes me concerned about interface design
3. Floaty combat - I agree combat animations look poor and, on top of that, there does not seem to be any combat feel. You hit something - it falls over, you blow it up - it falls over, you smash it with spells - it falls over.
Each of these things alone is not super concerning as most could be fixed, but there is not much time left and more importantly, all of these things together make me feel like the overall design of the game is a bit rudderless or lost. THAT would be very hard to fix.
I believe this will be a mediocre game. Not only from the visuals they have shown so far, which really feel outdated. But simply because Microsoft took the company over. And I do not think this will lead to a good result.
Lets face it. Obsidian never was great with "visuals" really. The games they made always looked mediocre. But they had really good writing and ok-gameplay. That is, when their studio was still independed. When they had creative freedom. That is gone however. They are not their own studio anymore. So I do not expect this to go well.
I still hyped for it, graphic doesn't concern me, it's the gameplay and choices that matter.
IMO it look amazing!! Im so hyped dude this gonna be a masterpiece of obsidian genius !
I didn't like The Outer Worlds that much and soured my lofty opinion of Obsidian. That game's 'open world' map was so small and limited, and spent way too much time fast traveling here and there for fetch quests.
The gameplay is stiff like elder scrolls online when you hit enemy’s
It would seem Obsidian's strengths come out when they are under the pump. Smaller budget, far less time (like, under 2 years) and engine and assets from another studio. Also needs Chris Avellone and Josh Sawyer.
I'm still looking forward to this game, but I have to admit that the latest Gameplay showcase reduced my hype too. The combat doesn't look so good and the first cinematic (surprise, surprise...) had a much better vibe, at least for me.
I hate that games make everything sooooo bright, i remember in skyrim i would have to pull up the wait menu to know if it was day or night lol. I hate glowing caves and dark forests where the shadows are as dark as a glass of milk. Good shadows and darkness adds so much visually. Ill never understand it.
I love PoE but I've never been interested in Avowed. Wasn't big on Outer Worlds either.
Yer obsidian isn't the same anymore sadly and outer worlds proved that to me i liked the game for what it is but i was expecting more specially when they kept saying fallout new vegas devs worked on it but im guessing there all gone now
In Fallout 1, I believe Obsidian was not on board (was developed by Black Isle Studios). But otherwise, great video.
I keep telling people the great games are attached to the specific Devs that made said game, not the Studio.
Halo 1 2 3 ODST, and Reach are connected to the old Devs from Bungie. Not current day 343. Just because Bungie made Destiny doesn't mean it will be better than Original Halo because that team of people left little by the time Destiny 1 life cycle was half way over. I would love Elder Scrolls 6 and Avowed to be deeper based RPGs and have the dice roll system with attributes and skills like The Area, Daggerfall, and Pillars of Eternity but the likelihood of that happening is slim to none. We already see Avowed isn't dice roll in combat.
Studio's respect, for all Studios, needs to reset after about 10 to 15 years because that about how long it take to change everyone on the entire said team. Therefore, they must EARN that respect back.
I once watched Bioware go from the top dog RPG dev in all of western gaming to fading into oblivion, never to be heard from again.
Honestly I wasn’t expecting avowed to be mind blowing gif you remember most if not all of outer worlds hype was either obsidian beat Bethesda to starfield or people acting like it was made as an insult to fallout 76 to the point even obsidian was disappointed my it
This was honestly expected when it was shared that they had scaled down because that's not what Obsidian is good at. But what is Obsidian good at? Certainly not creating a compelling RPG game with engaging characters and dialogue, as it was not noticable in Outer Worlds. And when you have a development team spread thin working on other mediocre games like Pentiment, Grounded, and Outer Worlds 2, the game is not likely going to feel good or finished.
Pentiment is amazing and so are there other recent games like Pillars of Eternity 2. And you say that OW doesn't have engaging dialogue? It's pretty obvious you don't know what you're talking about.
@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 Outer Worlds DOES NOT have engaging anything. Defend POE2 and Pentiment all you'd like- but there is virtually nothing remarkable about Outer Worlds; including the writing
Dunno.. To me new trailer looks way better than previous one. Seems they found some feedback on colors and made some changes. Still guns and goblins look a bit strange and I'm not a huge fan of Obsidian (think it's overhyped because of one clunky mod they've made). But I would like to see some more info.. might be a good game.
I remember seeing ni-no Kuni when I was in college and going "meh". Then years later realizing who made the game and what the premise was... To this day, one of the best games I ever played. To be fair tho, I wasn't looking at any media, just saw the vague art on the case and laughing it off as childish. But I have to agree with you and I'm a major pillars fan. It'll be on game pass so I'll try it day one but, the more I've seen, the less pumped I am
Avowed completely ditched stats and skills, and instead its just a perk system like Skyrim. That's the final straw for me. This went from being my most hyped game since it was originally announced, to me probably avoiding it completely. I thought Obsidian would be one of the last devs to still embrace real role-playing mechanics because they gave us PoE, but they've abandoned that completely.
We all await a Skyrim competitor with New Vegas depth; but I don't think we'll ever get it.
@@mistersparkles1842 it may happen 10 to 20 years from now as a retro game like Pillars of Eternity was.
@@captbloodbeard i can see that, advancements in AI will make asset creation significantly faster, that's the biggest bottleneck in games like this. So in the future a small team could pull this off.
At least Owlcat and Larian still makes real RPG's. They are a saving grace in today's market.
I like it I don't see a problem with perk system
Im currently playing pillars of enternity 1 and i like the dark and gritty tone much more than this disney comic style.
it's grown on me
.quite frankly it looks pretty sick...it looks less lord of the rings now but i still think it looks intriguing
It looks like a 1st person Wish version of Forspoken where you fight lizards. Enjoy that I'll stick with FF7 next month
I probably will not buy this game on launch, if anything I’ll wait for it to go on sale on Steam or just skip it entirely. I already decided to get Stalker 2 & with how expensive games are getting these days I don’t have the money or care to spend lots of money on 3 or more $70 titles. There’s rumors that Blizzard & others are looking to raise the price of games even more to something like $100. With how things are going in the industry (Broken uncompleted games, lots of micro transactions, now rumors of $100 games) it’s surprising these companies don’t realize people will buy fewer games if the initial price of them keeps going up. They won’t be able to get away with broken uncomplicated games anymore if a game is $100 & most people only will buy 2-3 games.
rebirth and dd2 are the most anticipated rpgs, not this lol
It looks like generic garbage pushed out by a studio that was bought out and no longer can create. I am really hoping the story/character aspects are WAY better than what we have seen so far. It's not looking good.
Its funny, Pillars of Eternity 1 was pretty dark , this looks bright and coloriful. Kinda opposite.
It looks boring and unpolished. The voice acting is extremely unprofessional sounding and looking. The gameplay looks pretty mundane and honestly not that interesting. I bet its going to come out and people will flock to it like blind chickens and then stop talking about it after like a week or two just like starfield. That or its going to be forgotten before it even comes out which is already looking to be the case. Im more hyped for indana jones which imo is a good thing because i personally love indana jones and grew up watching it as a kid.
There's a lack of first-person fantasy rpgs on the market right now, we haven't had anything since skyrim
7:20 I actually think the lip sync is quite good considering this is a game with a huge amount of dialogue. RPGs like this should be compared to action adventure games with respect to graphics and animations and lip sync.
I’m so pumped for this game, Poe always did a great job of balancing the high fantasy and dark fantasy, this is right in that wheel house, and I think the graphics looks great idk, it’s not red dead or anything but it looks awesome the scales on the skin is a chefs kiss
Funny, the environments they've shown are all grand canyon, western American- so. . .it is read dead. Except featuring sea of thieves characters.
DUDE!!, stop apologizing for having an opinion!!, two minutes into the video and you have apologized like 3 times. It is your opinion, of someone doesn't like it, too bad for them, so what?, only positive opinions are acceptable, otherwise you have to be constantly covering your back?. The psychological damage the internet has done to content creators.
Shush 🤫
It seems gamers never learn art style /= tone. Oblivion and Morrowind had very bright and colorful art styles and yet had very dark stories. The only reason Skyrim had a dark art style was because it took place in Tamriel which was inspired by nordic cultures and regions.
Yeah I'm with you on this one I was really hoping for a Elder Scrolls type experience The Avowed ain't it 👎🏾I'm definitely disappointed 😕 however The Outer Worlds 2 sounds more promising I can't believe they ruined the potential of a Skyrim type RPG 😔
I wanted to say it reminds me of a first person fable more than skyrim
Oh, damn you know it's a serious video when it hits 10 minutes in length.
Huh. As someone who loves PoE, Kotor 2, Fallout NV and Outer Worlds, I'm hyped. I guess people prefer Bethesda and Starfield..
Outdated cartoony trash
Obsidian didnt make fallout Vegas they just moded Fallout 3 thats all 😂
I think it's cool that obsidian is very inspired by bethesdas games. Like how the outer worlds was undeniably inspired by fallout and now avowed is inspired by the elder scrolls but my issue is that these games are very similar to each other yet obsidians have been smaller in features and size compared to bethesdas games. (exluding new vegas obv). Its like why would i settle for the outer worlds which is basically just fallout but with less features and overall smaller scope when i can just go play fallout? Im feeling the same way with avowed right now. Too its own detriment, its too similar to skyrim without seemingly bringing anything that new to that style of game and at the same time being overall smaller in scope. In my opinion, Obsidian has to really start differentiating themselves from Bethesda and really do more creative and new features and mechanics if they want to keep doing games at this smaller level
The change in tone was a let down for sure, it really seems it went from a cool big Skyrim like style into possibly very tiny zones with oversaturation like The Outer Worlds which I didn't like, also I wonder if the magic is only through wands now, maybe I missed that but the original casting of spells looked cooler (maybe just spells or abilities now idk), I'll give it a shot but at this point I'm most looking forward to using dual wielding anything as well as sword and pistol dual wielding looks cool.
Pillars of Eternity deserves better
I think it plays like outer worlds in hack and slash. It will be a fun to play, quick to complete RPG. It will be AA at best. Do not go looking for AAA quality and you will live it. I am playing the Outer worlds spacers choice edition. The video looks eerily similar.
The voices and npc animation is clunky. Basing excitement on not enough brown and gray is equally clunky
I think Avowed is still going to be really good story-wise. Obsidian games never had exceptional gameplay and never had gorgeous visuals. The RPG elements is always what saves Obsidian games, and that is exactly the part that was NOT shown in any showcase or trailer. Its probably just bad marketing decisions from higher ups.
The combat looks like a repeat of the oblivion/skyrim fiasco, where Todd literally admitted it was just meant to "look cool" - just shallow action-y animation spam with no interesting mechanics behind. If it stays like this then hopefully they at least make levelling it more impactful.
I love most of the clothes/armour design though
PS I think it would be a good idea to reduce the amount of "I'm not hating on the game" disclaimers, it's already evident from the context, you give your reasons, and you already have one in the beginning so if somebody still doesn't get what you're trying to communicate they're not gonna start listening, and it's therefore redundant.
a small world can be fine Kingdom Come Deliverance is a great game. But I think you are right nothing here really impresses me. It all kind of been there done that and super bright.
Yeah, I lost interest pretty quick after the first gameplay trailer. Too pretty and colourful, reminded me of the Outer Worlds, which was okay, but kind meh.
I just want poe3. Hopefully the leveling systems are similar to poe2 rather than a surface level system like skyrim or outer wilds. Level of build crafting in the crpgs of poe2 compared to the garbage of bethesda games just makes me hate the simplistic skill trees most games employ today.
The combat looks like a slightly polished up ESO.
And ESO combat puts me to sleep
This is exactly my opinion as well.
I think the graphics are pretty good and the combat looks cute and funny in a good way. I like it.
I really enjoyed Outer worlds and Pillars of Eternity. This footage looks a lot like OW, so I am looking forward to Avowed.
Only one thing I don't like is a biome of the game, I hate tropics, I hate beaches... and most of all I hate mushrooms growing on animals.
So, I am actually looking forward to this game, but I don't really know if I could play it.
Combat looks a little wonky, which is fair considering the game is unfinished, but I'm certain everything else will more than make up for it (assuming they dont fix it before launch) This is Obsidian afterall. Have faith. Or don't. No one's gonna force you to buy it.