Prevost vs Newell: High End Motor Coach World Explained! (Million Dollar RV's)
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- What makes Prevost and Newell the best in the business? It is something I explain pretty regularly so I thought I would sit down and explain it a little bit. There are a lot of misconceptions out there in RV world and I feel the need to air out some of these myths. How does a 25 year old million dollar coach compare to a brand new "production" model?
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Congrats on 5k bro!!!
Thanks bro 💪🏻
Love the “motor coach” content. I recently purchased a 2000 Monaco in March mainly for going drag racing, towing my Chevy Vega in a 28ft enclosed trailer, and camping here and there. Been learning a lot every time I hop in and it’s a cool experience. I’m 25 years old and 6’5 as well lol.
You got the right idea sir. Monaco’s are built well compared to others!
You want to live, sleep, and vacation in a Newell, but you want to get there in a Prevost!
What an incredible home, Mitchell! I just saw a picture with the full side of your coach and realized that it’s your vehicle in motion, tires and all! Thank you for explaining what makes a Newell different from the ones that are bus conversions. I am really envious of the life that you are leading. Thank you so much, Mitchell
Love all the Oklahoma content. I love in Claremore. I never knew Newel's were built in Miami OK. My second job in high school was working for Dave's RV in Claremore. I've always liked R.V's but never watched videos on them so I was surprised when I caught myself binge watching all your videos but especially the RV videos. Lol
i have to agree with you 100% mitchell any rv you buy is going to have issues lol my wife and i purchased a 2020 Forest River 403rd had it custom ordered and built to our spec, took 4 months to take delivery of it and sure enough we have electrical issues already hahah oh and my onboard water filter snapped during transport...... im diggin the Newell big time, let the haters hate brother they dont know whats up haha
It’s a different world that’s for sure. I think there’s more crossover from car guys to rv guys than I expected!
Stapleton42 haha heck yea it’s a big transition lol, wife and I sold everything and rv full time I bounce around a lot as a contractor so it’s easier this way, I’m towing a 45ft house on wheels, and yea haha lots more crossover crowd than you’d think bud
wayne james no we opted for more living space 1 full bath only
wayne james yes 1 full bath and a half bath sorry 🤙🏼🤙🏼
You are much better off with a 20yr old Newell, Wanderlodge or Prevost, then anything new. I know from experience. Bought a brand new Tiffin Allegro Bus, after 2yrs of nothing but problems, I traded it on on a 10 yr older Prevost and never looked back...
10000% truth
Great explanation...Great video...I own an 06 Wanderlodge...It cost 850K in 06...Stainless steel construction fully welded...Steel sidewalls welded to the frame...There is a difference....
Oh absolutely. Build quality is worth every penny
Absolutely gorgeous. I know it’s an older video but I’m watching a lot of them just like I said. Great informative video and thanks for sharing Artie 🇺🇸😊
Thanks man 🤟🏻
broo...your interior is fkn fantastic!!!!
I have a 94 Prevost Featherlite....It is my heart!
Good convo...you nailed it!
Thanks man!
I'm just now getting into RV's, what I can say as a matter of fact is that Newell makes a fine product, however I wouldn't take a new one at gun point. I've been buying semi trucks for 15 years, I was a huge Cummins guy when CAT was still around. These days there's 2 dependable engines, Volvo's D13 and Detroit's DD15 and DD16. The rest are garbage. Now someone buying a 3 million dollar rv probably doesn't need to worry about dependability when they're only driving 50k miles a year, but in a commercial application you're buying garbage. If I buy a new coach one day, it will be a Prevost or an Icon Super C with a Detroit.
The build quality on the super c's seems a little cheap though. Daimler really screwed alot of manufacturers when they bought Detroit, it was a brilliant move thats since basically destroyed Paccar (kenworth/Peterbilt) and well.... Navistar (International) wasn't really competitive anyway.
But I wish they'd license out the DD15/16 to Newell as well as Prevost. Volvo is a great engine, but Detroit invested over a billion dollars to engineer the new DD's and it shows. Since switching to Detroit in my freightliners and Western Star, I've saved nearly 100 grand in repairs and maintenance. I only take it to the dealer for routine maintenance every 500k miles for overheads. I do oil changes every 50k-75k miles which was impossible years ago without a bypass filter.
If someone puts 50k miles a year on a new newell they’re driving it a lot. Most of them don’t see that lol. Also if you have the money to buy a 3 million dollar coach do you really care about occasional service? Doubt it. You drop it off and forget about it lol
Really nice job buddy. Great explanation for the unitiated.
My wife and I are short, so we're good with either. In the end, once you get to a certain age in the coach, the issues will be pretty much the same. All the "comfort" systems that is.
I've been fascinated with these coaches for as long as I can remember. I mean like since I was 10. Whenever it was that I saw my first Prevost with a slide and no rivets, I remember feeling sad about it.
My 100% choice is Prevost. I will give up certain luxuries to get that rock solid 'overbuilt' chassis. I have to have those bay doors and the absolute billet-feel of opening, closing, and latching them. For me, that's a must have and I know I'm not alone in this. 🤠. You could find one sitting in in a field, barn, whatever, and those bay doors will be straight and true.
Until we have a fully covered space for ours that is on our property, we will not get ours.
Long live classic motorcoaches!
Edit: but I love Newalls too!
I appreciate you're Newell research and videos. I did not understand the difference between Newell and a Liberty or Marathon. I did know the Prevost is the top dog when it comes to putting miles on your coach. I did not know the Newell was top dog when it comes to living space. I do understand they are both exceptional at both drivability and liveability. Now i know the difference. Thank you.
Glad I could help! That’s what I’m here for
Hey guys I love your challenge request for us OG watchers! Cool idea😁! Anything we can do to help, I know your OG watchers are probably a lot like me. It would be cool if we could have a Stapleton Autoworks car event meet up someday. I’m going to pop in on a bunch of my favorite vids and lay down some sweet comments about what I liked! Loved the Coach series! I always thought it would be cool to do what you’re doing wwith a diesel pusher.
Motorhome’s are quite literally homes with drivetrains. Homes are always requiring maintenance. So do motorhomes.
This was a very informative video. Thanks for this. It's not like I'll ever be able to afford one, but if I could the Newell, I think, is the best choice for me. The reason being that, like you, I'll be living in mine and not doing a lot of traveling.
No explanation needed! Just go Newell and you will be fine!
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I like the newel motorhome better myself ,
I like that everything is built Under One Roof that means a lot to me, it means quality.
You do know that newel is built with regular steel? Here's an article on the Prevost body. www.marathoncoach.com/prevost-chassis-advantages/
@@KWlsuz20 I will watch the video, you see Newel is quality to me because the motor home starts and ends fully completed in the Newel factory, I was impressed and to me pravo is a defeated foe.
@@1AEROSOL.1PUFF Defeated foe? LOL, you do realize Prevost puts out the majority of busses for transportation, than they do for RV's. There not defeated by any means... The make busses, and converters build the interiors, and put in all the good stuff. But the frame of the Prevost is far superior to Newell, or any other class A RV builder. You see Prevost has to build all of the busses to meet Gov. standards for the transportation industry. This makes the bus the safest thing to build an RV from. The same bus that carries 70 people millions of miles a year, is the same quality bus that these converters build out for RV use... Just because something isn't built completely in the same building doesn't make it superior. Now there is huge differences between converters. The two top dogs there are Marathon, and Liberty. But like everything, it's all in what you prefer.
Ok ,found this video you talk straight retired out of RV business,of 44 years, now your coach the raised roof ,what was she built for ,nice paint scheme ,you have a great DAY 👍 🖖
Prevost is made of a steel frame all around, anything before 2015 I believe, after that Prevost went to a thinner lighter steel. Prevost is the best chassis to build on. I am thinking of buying 1. Why buy a million dollar condo and pay strata fees and monthly bills and taxes, when I can buy a Prevost and put all the money in it. Also you can change the layout of the floor plan.
Love the content! Love the coach content! We also travel a lot in a coach and love it. Keep up the great videos and thanks for sharing
Thank you! Will do!
Finally someone made it simple to understand. Thank you...
Thats what I'm here for! Anything else come to mind that should be explained simply?
I appreciate it. No other the questions but if I do have any I'll come see you. That was my big question, structure.
Ok you made my decision in this very easy to understand this vs that. Newell!
This is first time someone said it straight 👏
That’s what I’m out to do!
I've also heard them called "Diesel Pushers"
Great extemporaneous video!! 👏🏿
I believe you forgot one other high end top of the line coach manufacture, Foretravel! Check out their new iH45's. They are competing against Prevost and Newell's! Much higher end than the knock out 45 motorhomes a week builder like Monaco's, etc.
before i say " negative"...id like to research that. are they built on stainless steel chassis too?
Definitely great content , keep it as you have with the Newell and the LSXCalade!
Thanks man I will
I watched your Newell factory vid,looking at the suspension, it looks like Newell bought suspension parts from provost,I would tend to think Newell are lighter because of the use of aluminum framing,vs prevosts stainless frames,
Newell uses suspension components from ZF
Very cool. Safe bet that it’s in way better shape than the Earnhardt coach. Your patience paid off.
Looking forward to the tour.
Congratulations!
Thanks man!
Cool as mate... I'm an old petrol head so that blue wagon with all the mumbo got my attention, but I have been lookin at buses to convert for a couple of years now.
What kind of mpg does your coach get & what HP/TQ do you know?
I want to have plenty of power so it gets an easy life, but I've heard of old 2 stroke GMs gettin 3-4 mpg... that doesn't fit with my pension lol.
cheers
Stock should be 475/1650 since I haven’t tuned it yet. It does 6.5-8 mpg in ideal conditions
@@Stapleton42 thanks mate, handy data.
What a difficult decision between the two. I really like the pictures at 10:35. I didn't think there would be a huge difference in drivability between the two. What did you notice between them? Body roll, excellrration, twisting & flexing?
Preamble: I like and subscribe, so please don't hate me for just a tiny correction. I'm really not a grammar nazi, but I know you care about your content and choose your words carefully.
I think you mean 'associate vs assimilate' with in the intro.
Pushing for you and all the other good guys. Came here via Andrew Steele.
Best to you from Austin in Texas.
You kinda seem like a grammar nazi
@@Stapleton42 wow - you took my well - intentioned comment really well. Nice, real nice.
Meanwhile, you're making sure everyone knows how to pronounce Prevost. Are ya seeing anything there?
Nice RV bro
great video you explained it well - would love to see your step by step in updates you have been doing reno, maintenance etc etc
Thanks man. I have been making videos on everything I do to my newell so far. That will continue! Another one coming tomorrow
@@Stapleton42 sweet daily ones are great
Big man ur on ur way 5k thanks man ,also lookin forward seeing u makin passes. Newell life the life of a king and every king needs a princess lol.peace
SNOOK AROO I like how you said princess not queen. Cause queen takes half your shit 🤣
Man damn good video thank u cuz I didn’t have a clue between the two I’ve learned a lot from this video
I hear you can call newell tech support 24 7 even out of warranty!
Yes you can. They’re the best 🤟🏻
Congrats on 5k subs
Thanks man. Just getting started!
Mitchell, you mentioned that they do not have high maintenance bills with age and such in the intro, but would you be able to elaborate on that some? Is that similar to diesel engines having greater longevity to gasoline engines?
Yes
I have a 95 Newell but yore paint job looks so much better on the inside looks similar
"MY AM UH" 👏👏😁😎
How about a demo on the new welder.
I will absolutely do that once I have a legitimate project rolling. Should be soon!
And I wish I could know story of my Newell
You can. Do some digging on the coach number. Newell will also have the original records on the build too
LOVE your motorhome Coach videos! Maybe you can help. Going to be RVing full time within the next year. Hoping to get my last RV first. I’m looking at 3 options…new Renegade Classic 45 ft about $550,000 vs used Newell 2008-2014ish vs Country Coach Magna or Affinity late models $200,000+. Love the customization of the new Renegade Classic, amazing quality of the Newell’s, and I think of the Country Coach as a earlier version of the Newell that you can get into really inexpensive. Any thoughts?
Newell is made for full time. My dad had a couple country coach magnas and they were great. Can’t speak on the lower end ones though. CC doesn’t technically exist anymore so parts and service are more spotty. Newell has customer service repair diagrams and everything on every coach they’ve ever built. Great people. Can’t beat a newell. Just depends on what’s important to you. I wouldn’t consider a stick and staple box renegade though. Not in the same league
Do you still believe that the Prevost drives better than the Newell? Also did you look at high end Super C's like Haulmark, Showhauler and Renegade?
I drove a 95 Prevost XL and it does drive better than my 96 Newell but not by much. I have not driven a 2020 Prevost to compare to the 2020 Newell I drove recently
@@Stapleton42 I.m thinking, based on your reviews and Andrew's also, that Newell listens to their customers and incorporates improvements based on customer feedback. So on that issue, I would bet that the new Newell coaches drive better now. We'll see.
So glad your are enjoying your new I’ll say moter home or coach/.... Probably seems like your going from rags to riches with all that room, compared to the trailer you just sold, 🇺🇸🇺🇸
It does 😂 funny thing is I don’t even use all the room in here but that’s a topic for another video
Mitchell, It's a checkered flag??
My paint job is ues
so, how do they get a fridge in and out if it breaks?
window
@@Stapleton42 didn't realize it was big enough to get it out.
What about Featherlite ?
featherlite is a Prevost converter too
Like people and homes as they get older they have lots of proublems.
In the same way...the good ones have far less problems and live much longer
I wish you had not improvised this review. By your own admission, you didn't write anything out and it shows. You had good information but kept searching for the best way to articulate it. Give us the benefit of your more deliberate thoughts next time, please.
There are other coaches of are built at a residential stuff is well. Is not just Newell and prevost.. There are other coach manufactures its build their chassis is as well...
None of them are on the level of newell or Prevost though. That’s straight up not even debatable lol
PrEEvOst - English pronunciation. Prevosts are BUSSES.