From your description of this coach, I am pretty sure I spoke with the owner of this bus several months ago. I have been watching it for about a year. There were too many things he said to me that were squirrelly. I am a potential first time buyer. It is encouraging to know I smelled something off and you confirmed it. You have given me a little more confidence as I search for a coach. Thanks Andrew!
This is an extremely valuable video for buyers who are looking for their perfect RV. For some reason the sales of cars & RVS attract more than a few dishonest people who are more than happy to take you for as much as possible. I’m appalled by his behaviour and so happy that you accompanied the buyer Andrew. It’s something I learned from you early on to always find an independent inspector who can help with your purchase or stop the sale completely. Personally I’d flag the seller on social media for misrepresentation and lying to potential buyers. Thank you so much for highlighting the issues of buying your RV privately or from an unknown dealership. 👏👏👏
I know nothing about RV Inspection, however you said a lot . . . Anytime Integrity is broken, the transaction is a deal-breaker for me. And that goes for any situation. There is a con-artist in every field.
I was thinking about becoming a certified RV inspector...was a truck/motorcoach mechanic in a former life and currently drive entertainer outta Nashville..I'm around these things constantly. In the process of restoring an '89 XL Le Mirage classic so I do all my own stunts.. Peace of mind is a wonderful thing.
What I got from this is that you know your stuff and even though the buyer paid out a lot of money before a purchase, the buyer made a sound investment in you and your knowledge of the coach but also what questions to ask and extract the information needed to determine your level of comfortability with the seller and a possible sale. Don't beat yourself up over the fact the buyer paid you and a no sale took place. you proved to the buyer the money he paid you was far more valuable than the R.V and the $10,000.00 the buyer paid for everything was a drop in the bucket compared to losing $500,000.00 plus the $250,000.00 in repair cost. The bond you and the buyer established that day will be immeasurable in the future.
Great video Andrew. Eyes Wide Open. First time owners need to understand this. We've owned our Wanderlodge for 4 years now. Were fortunate to purchase from an honest owner. Through WOG and contacts we knew the history of the bus and the owner's history fixing up Wanderlodges. He liked to do stuff like that and is honest as the day is long. We've not really had to repair much in our 4 years of ownership other than maintenance and a few repairs that are consistent with ownership of a 17 year old class A diesel pusher. Thanks again for the videos. I appreciate your channel.
I collect Rolls Royces. The same thing happens to me very often! I have lost thousands in travel expenses to find owners not totally transparent or simply do know their cars! Whatever one buys is tremendously important to know about it AND see it IN PERSON to validate the condition!
Super informative video Andrew, thank you for taking the time to share. I would never be comfortable buying from a private seller. BTW, love your Grech. Take care
You said that Prevost inspected the coach before you and the owner inspected it. I would be upset that the Prevost inspection didn't reveal the fire damage.
Great video, Andrew, thank you. Classic case of why you want to have every coach put through an in-depth inspection. Imagine finding out there was a fire and that the inverter was not properly updated and other problems after the purchase! Yes, the inspection costs money, but a bad purchase could cost much, much more!
Thank you Andrew for making this video and I really appreciate your candor about these types of sales in the used market. I also the videos that that you and Brad do at the Motorcoach store too.
Ty Andrew for sticking with integrity value. Everything craters when you lose that. This is why I’ll be calling you in the near future about my first motorcoach purchase. I’m fairly certain it’s going to be a Newell ordered from factory but want to bounce some thoughts off you. I’m facing major back surgery in the next month which will dictate my timeline. I’ll call when things clear up after surgery. Ty again for your honesty and informative videos.
Also, if you’re buying a bunk style charter bus, especially Prevost, there’s a good chance it’s got about 2,000,000 miles on the chassis before they sell them might have engine replacements obviously but a bunk style bust. It’s already been built is typically very high miles on the body and suspension.
Heck the 4th A/C is a dead giveaway 😂 .. What I am wondering is, was it a Entertainer Shell the whole time and you know they are different than a Coach Shell ... that lil bit of cost for plane ticket and your fee saved him hundreds of thousands
Just amazes me how people treat others sometimes. You can never cheat your way through this type of business deal. It will always bite you hard later. He was lucky he had you to to be there to help. So sad to see people trying to screw others. Thanks Andrew for opening everyones eyes.
I was set to buy a famous brand Scandinavian leather chair and ottoman (Stressless) off CraigsList that was advertised as like new, mint, perfect, or similar. A lot of time was wasted, as there was leather finish scuffed off the person side of the ottoman. presumably from normal moving of pant legs on, off, and around the edge many many times. On the good side, it made not want to buy even a new set of that type. Misrepresentation is common in personal sales ads (and politics, and in humanity in general). Buyer beware.
He was lucky to have you with him. What would have happened if he would have just gone to the private seller by himself? He wouldn’t have known what all to look for, bought it, and then found a ton of red flags afterwards. Not talking about this case, but sometimes a private seller, or even a dealership can spot someone who doesn’t know anything about RV’s at all, from a mile away. Not all people will prey on and deceive someone they are selling to or a client. But unfortunately they are out there. So my advice to anyone who is a first time buyer would be to just be careful. Look for experts like Andrew who know the ins and outs of motor coaches, and all RV’s for that matter. Or if not a professional, then someone who you know well that knows what their doing. Glad you were able to help him Andrew.
Exactly ! Well said. After all,this is how we learn. Sometimes it takes a hands on ( well in this case, hands off ) approach just to see what was done wrong. I am sure he is now addressing those shortfalls. 🙏👍💯
This was an "excellent" video. I'd be interested in more like this. As a side note, when you review those beautiful and expensive coaches, I wish you'd take time to point out some simple but important features on kitchen appliances. For instance, the size (CuFt) of the refrigerators. It is a fact that "all women" and most men want to know what size it is. If it isn't at the top of their list of questions when they walk through a coach, it's most certainly something they'll look for and find on a spec sheet, or will ask about before they buy. Also, consider stating the brand name of the washer/dryer combo units, and the brand name of the stackable units. FYI- Spendide has an unfavorable repair reputation (I've been in the appliance biz for a while) and GE is owned by a Chinese company called Haier. China "anything" very likely turns off a potential buyer on the high end. Although that may not make the the difference in whether or not a guy buys a coach, a high-end buyer is more discriminating and the fact definitely is noted. If I were a buyer at the high end and ran into a GE or Splendide appliance, I'd negotiate replacement appliances. Last thing... is may not be wildly important to most buyers, but it is something I know I'll need to know when I buy. I'll need to know the width and depth of the largest bay. I need one that is a hair over 4 feet wide. Back to the washer/dryer/refrigerator thing- please share my thoughts with Brad, he may find value in replacing those brands and using it as a value statement when making sales. Keep up the good work.
1/2 price. Then you can’t trust anything. We sold a loved ones house. Had 3 inspections. All a bit different, but they all had a few things in common. Sure enough the buyer tried to sue. I sent the inspections as part of discovery. The whole thing went away in a week
It wasn't a real fire a couple batteries arced it was nothing. Now Andrews RV fire that was a barnstormer I was 6.3 mi away and it burned the siding off my house.
as a prevost owner i hope that cockroach seller sees my comment. You did a perfect job of exposing that pond scum professionally. Top dollar for a yet to be salvaged title coach!!!!!! Ill be posting this vid in the prevost fb group
Thanks Andrew for your info, Great stuff and very informative for us planning a big purchase. Also good info on the Mattress option as that is also something that comes with a used coach. Any good options in hide-a-bed mattresses for our valued tag-alongs that we plan to have?
Buying a Used RV from a private seller(individual) is the same as buying a car your buying "As Is" and you don't get a warranty. There really isn't any recourse, unless there's a recall on the vehicle. That's why it's called buying a lemon.
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From your description of this coach, I am pretty sure I spoke with the owner of this bus several months ago. I have been watching it for about a year. There were too many things he said to me that were squirrelly. I am a potential first time buyer. It is encouraging to know I smelled something off and you confirmed it. You have given me a little more confidence as I search for a coach. Thanks Andrew!
This is an extremely valuable video for buyers who are looking for their perfect RV. For some reason the sales of cars & RVS attract more than a few dishonest people who are more than happy to take you for as much as possible. I’m appalled by his behaviour and so happy that you accompanied the buyer Andrew. It’s something I learned from you early on to always find an independent inspector who can help with your purchase or stop the sale completely. Personally I’d flag the seller on social media for misrepresentation and lying to potential buyers.
Thank you so much for highlighting the issues of buying your RV privately or from an unknown dealership. 👏👏👏
I know nothing about RV Inspection, however you said a lot . . . Anytime Integrity is broken, the transaction is a deal-breaker for me. And that goes for any situation. There is a con-artist in every field.
Great point
Very true.
Well said. 👍💯
That is so true. When in doubt walk out.
Without integrity there's nothing there. You nailed it right there.
I wonder How Prevost did not find the ashes and evidence of a fire during their inspection.
This 👆
I was thinking about becoming a certified RV inspector...was a truck/motorcoach mechanic in a former life and currently drive entertainer outta Nashville..I'm around these things constantly. In the process of restoring an '89 XL Le Mirage classic so I do all my own stunts..
Peace of mind is a wonderful thing.
What I got from this is that you know your stuff and even though the buyer paid out a lot of money before a purchase, the buyer made a sound investment in you and your knowledge of the coach but also what questions to ask and extract the information needed to determine your level of comfortability with the seller and a possible sale. Don't beat yourself up over the fact the buyer paid you and a no sale took place. you proved to the buyer the money he paid you was far more valuable than the R.V and the $10,000.00 the buyer paid for everything was a drop in the bucket compared to losing $500,000.00 plus the $250,000.00 in repair cost. The bond you and the buyer established that day will be immeasurable in the future.
Great video Andrew. Eyes Wide Open. First time owners need to understand this. We've owned our Wanderlodge for 4 years now. Were fortunate to purchase from an honest owner. Through WOG and contacts we knew the history of the bus and the owner's history fixing up Wanderlodges. He liked to do stuff like that and is honest as the day is long. We've not really had to repair much in our 4 years of ownership other than maintenance and a few repairs that are consistent with ownership of a 17 year old class A diesel pusher. Thanks again for the videos. I appreciate your channel.
I collect Rolls Royces. The same thing happens to me very often! I have lost thousands in travel expenses to find owners not totally transparent or simply do know their cars! Whatever one buys is tremendously important to know about it AND see it IN PERSON to validate the condition!
He should buy from Brad. When i'm ready to buy the only place i'm going is to see brad
Super informative video Andrew, thank you for taking the time to share. I would never be comfortable buying from a private seller. BTW, love your Grech. Take care
Thank you for your help Andrew, great video. Happy trails!
You said that Prevost inspected the coach before you and the owner inspected it. I would be upset that the Prevost inspection didn't reveal the fire damage.
Yes, I found that interesting too. In fact, distressing.
They only inspected the house side
I've learned so much about RVs watching your channel
We thank you for keeping it real with us.. This is why you are known all over the USA... Keep up the good work....
Great Narration. Keyword: INTEGRITY
Great video, Andrew, thank you. Classic case of why you want to have every coach put through an in-depth inspection. Imagine finding out there was a fire and that the inverter was not properly updated and other problems after the purchase! Yes, the inspection costs money, but a bad purchase could cost much, much more!
Your attention to the details while reviewing a coach is certainly appreciated. I learn a lot watching your videos. Thanks!
Thank you Andrew for making this video and I really appreciate your candor about these types of sales in the used market. I also the videos that that you and Brad do at the Motorcoach store too.
Ty Andrew for sticking with integrity value. Everything craters when you lose that.
This is why I’ll be calling you in the near future about my first motorcoach purchase. I’m fairly certain it’s going to be a Newell ordered from factory but want to bounce some thoughts off you.
I’m facing major back surgery in the next month which will dictate my timeline. I’ll call when things clear up after surgery. Ty again for your honesty and informative videos.
Wow!! What a story. That pictures says it all!!
Thank you! This helps so much! When I decide on one, it will be my first one, I want it to be for full-time use.
Andrew, Your integrity continues to stand tall. Thanks.
Thanks for watching over this buyer .
Man... Thanx for your integrity Andrew.... rare in this day and age man
Thank you Andrew for your candor, honesty and guidance. Love your channel. We want to see more of your dog...LOL
Being honest is the best policy
Buddy, I can tell you ALL about "private party" vs "dealer" purchase experience!
Ive had both, and boy have I learned how valuable a dealer is!!!
Also, if you’re buying a bunk style charter bus, especially Prevost, there’s a good chance it’s got about 2,000,000 miles on the chassis before they sell them might have engine replacements obviously but a bunk style bust. It’s already been built is typically very high miles on the body and suspension.
Heck the 4th A/C is a dead giveaway 😂 .. What I am wondering is, was it a Entertainer Shell the whole time and you know they are different than a Coach Shell ... that lil bit of cost for plane ticket and your fee saved him hundreds of thousands
Just amazes me how people treat others sometimes. You can never cheat your way through this type of business deal. It will always bite you hard later. He was lucky he had you to to be there to help. So sad to see people trying to screw others. Thanks Andrew for opening everyones eyes.
Why didn't Prevost catch the fire & the inverter switch?
They only inspected chassis, not the house side.
I was set to buy a famous brand Scandinavian leather chair and ottoman (Stressless) off CraigsList that was advertised as like new, mint, perfect, or similar.
A lot of time was wasted, as there was leather finish scuffed off the person side of the ottoman. presumably from normal moving of pant legs on, off, and around the edge many many times.
On the good side, it made not want to buy even a new set of that type.
Misrepresentation is common in personal sales ads (and politics, and in humanity in general). Buyer beware.
He was lucky to have you with him. What would have happened if he would have just gone to the private seller by himself? He wouldn’t have known what all to look for, bought it, and then found a ton of red flags afterwards. Not talking about this case, but sometimes a private seller, or even a dealership can spot someone who doesn’t know anything about RV’s at all, from a mile away. Not all people will prey on and deceive someone they are selling to or a client. But unfortunately they are out there. So my advice to anyone who is a first time buyer would be to just be careful. Look for experts like Andrew who know the ins and outs of motor coaches, and all RV’s for that matter. Or if not a professional, then someone who you know well that knows what their doing. Glad you were able to help him Andrew.
Great job and video Andrew! Nothing wrong on being honest and keeping your integrity. Thank you!
Exactly ! Well said. After all,this is how we learn. Sometimes it takes a hands on ( well in this case, hands off ) approach just to see what was done wrong.
I am sure he is now addressing those shortfalls.
🙏👍💯
One person doesn't tell the truth - it becomes a politician in my eyes, and I don't trust any politician
Thank you Andrew for the great info your the best big hugs
Andrew a very true video. THANKS
I love how this man of integrity just slips a nice commercial in there.
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
Integrity, Integrity, integrity!! Blessings
This was an "excellent" video. I'd be interested in more like this. As a side note, when you review those beautiful and expensive coaches, I wish you'd take time to point out some simple but important features on kitchen appliances. For instance, the size (CuFt) of the refrigerators. It is a fact that "all women" and most men want to know what size it is. If it isn't at the top of their list of questions when they walk through a coach, it's most certainly something they'll look for and find on a spec sheet, or will ask about before they buy. Also, consider stating the brand name of the washer/dryer combo units, and the brand name of the stackable units. FYI- Spendide has an unfavorable repair reputation (I've been in the appliance biz for a while) and GE is owned by a Chinese company called Haier. China "anything" very likely turns off a potential buyer on the high end. Although that may not make the the difference in whether or not a guy buys a coach, a high-end buyer is more discriminating and the fact definitely is noted. If I were a buyer at the high end and ran into a GE or Splendide appliance, I'd negotiate replacement appliances. Last thing... is may not be wildly important to most buyers, but it is something I know I'll need to know when I buy. I'll need to know the width and depth of the largest bay. I need one that is a hair over 4 feet wide. Back to the washer/dryer/refrigerator thing- please share my thoughts with Brad, he may find value in replacing those brands and using it as a value statement when making sales. Keep up the good work.
Why is the word excellent in quotes? Why is all women in quotes?
What is a better compact stackable than Splendide? In your humble opinion.
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@@timinsandiego6979 I wouldn't have guessed that. You usually see Whirlpool in more budget friendly RV's.
Well said! When we have an integrity issue, we’re done. Great content! Subscribed!
You have a lot of people around the world who gives you 👍👍🇦🇺
1/2 price. Then you can’t trust anything. We sold a loved ones house. Had 3 inspections. All a bit different, but they all had a few things in common. Sure enough the buyer tried to sue. I sent the inspections as part of discovery. The whole thing went away in a week
Great video you are one of the best because of who you are!
Can't go wrong with the truth.
OMG! A FIRE? For HALF A MILLION BUCKS??? You just saved your client a fortune! And a humongous headache.
Sounds like you saved him from making a bad decision! 💪👍🏼
How did the fire damage get past prevost.
Nice video keep up the good work fella
Honesty is like pregnancy- you are or you ain't.
Your a great person andrew
Thank you from Kentucky ✌️
Spending the $$ to check out the Motorhome is really worth it. Saved him in the long run!
I almost bought a bus because of you
What a coincidence I just looked up and saw a bus!
Learn something new today ANDREW!😀
I hope you post the name of the coach and the model number so that everybody's aware it's a scam
Could it be CCI # L056?
Any electrical fire in an RV is bad news…Owner should’ve known about that after the swap out of the inverters
It wasn't a real fire a couple batteries arced it was nothing. Now Andrews RV fire that was a barnstormer I was 6.3 mi away and it burned the siding off my house.
Thank you for this lesson!!!
It’s amazing what some people call. Excellent condition and how pictures don’t tell any of the story.
as a prevost owner i hope that cockroach seller sees my comment. You did a perfect job of exposing that pond scum professionally. Top dollar for a yet to be salvaged title coach!!!!!!
Ill be posting this vid in the prevost fb group
I would be leery of slander bro.
Great stuff! Thank you! (Honesty pays off)!
WHO wants to sleep on anyone else's mattress?? ya gotta afford a new mattress regardless what you buy.
Thanks Andrew for your info, Great stuff and very informative for us planning a big purchase. Also good info on the Mattress option as that is also something that comes with a used coach. Any good options in hide-a-bed mattresses for our valued tag-alongs that we plan to have?
I have seen that coach for sale for a LONG time.
Is it L056?
Not sure, just saw in on prevost stuff for sale. @@castloft8628
So Prevost did a inspection on the bus side and never opened the bays that would have found the fire damage???
Prevost only inspects bus side of coach. An rv tech has to inspect house side of coach so Prevost wouldn't catch that.
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele Sketchy at best...
Andrew is loose with the facts at times but I wouldn't call him sketchy.
What are you RVing in now and what happened to your girlfriend and dog?
better a few Dollars than $500k
So, are you saying that Prevost didn't see the evidence of the fire?
I knew by your description it was a lease coach before you said it.
Good for the. Sounds like it was the best thing that never happened you did him a favor
Sad, so sad that someone in the RV’ing community would try to scam another RV’er (out of $480k no less!). Newbie or not! Live & learn I guess.
Why didn’t Prevost catch that?? That’s pretty noticeable.
I've yet to find an honest 'private seller' i don't know. There's always something they're hiding.
good job buddy
Haven't seen Doug for awhile.
Integrity is everything. lose it and you have nothing to build from.
Spending a few grand to avoid a potential money pit sounds like a bargain.
Pay a little more and buy from a reputable dealer
The inspector missed the fire...wow, Don't rely on dealership inspections.
Get to the point!
The Motor Coach Store is the only direction to steer this Buyer to…period
We will be hiring you soon to help with advice of buying a used RV.
Anyone buying a 16 year old coach… WHATEVER the make… had BETTER have a lot of money in reserve to fix things that break… because things WILL break.
Keep it real Andy😧
Super C, buy quality
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This is exactly why you have a successful channel. People can smell b/s (and smoke) a mile away.
I smelled Andrews RV fire from miles away and we were even having a barbecue and I could smell it.
Prevost Motorcoach to jebel ali and fuckedcunted of Lanarafat's pal carajo.
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Dat’s whuksf shisf sed!! Olo
I really wish he would pronounce the name correctly, so grating.
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Buying a Used RV from a private seller(individual) is the same as buying a car your buying "As Is" and you don't get a warranty. There really isn't any recourse, unless there's a recall on the vehicle. That's why it's called buying a lemon.
Love my Grech….