If a man does not register, he can ... 1. Be liable for upto $250,000 fine. 2. Upto 5 years in jail. 3. Can be refused federal employment for the rest of his life. 4. Is not eligible for federal student loans. 5. Will not be able to get a drivers license in some states. if a woman does not register. 1. No consequences. Yes we truly live in a Patriarchy that privileges men and oppresses women!
@@RandomUser043yeah the government says that they respect people's identities until it actually matters. During the draft if you have a penis, your female identity isn't respected. 😂
The reason women are exempt from the draft is the patriarchy... Men doesn't think women are strong enough to serve snd should instead be at home. Not a single woman was part of making these decisions, its all men thinking thejre superior. There has been multiple attempts to get women into the army but it's never gone far. And who's the reason for that? Men! This is ome lf the the rare times the patriarchy backfired and made it worse for men. I think it'd only be fair to not make it mandatory for men also. Instead lf making it mandatory for women.
If you don't want to serve just choose a different gender - it's all the rage. But women can join the combat arms now, so there is no reason not to select them. Does the US have a law that says all places a law says "man" it can be read as saying women" and vice versa?
@@1337flite The law states only men are subject to the selective service. If they decide it included women then almost 70% of federal employees could face the sack! If a male federal employee is discovered not to have registered then he can be sacked! The DoD/SSS have issued a statement about gender identity being irrelevant in their view, I believe. The federal court has already issued a ruling that the men-only rule is uncontitutional but it was overturned I believe but never made it to the Supreme Court.
I use to think like this but then I thought why would China stop at Tawain if they took that over? They’d be the #1 global superpower by a long shot, So i’d be down to stop that than go to jail for not doing my service, maybe our country needs this in a way to unify idk
Depends on your goal. If you're planning on invading, sure, you don't want conscripts. But if you don't have a need to project force, nothing does deterrence like every single person in your country having been through military training, with a solid portion of them having trained recently in refreshing courses, with hardware preplaced in every town and village.
Until the volunteers run out. Just ask Russia, the Ukraine or the US Army in the 1960s or for that matter the US Forces of the 2020s who are having a huge personel issue.
If we’re fighting in Eastern Europe, the Pacific, South China Sea and the Middle East, there’s going to be a draft. There would be one even if the military met 100% of its recruitment goals, which it hasn’t for years
No, equality is only needed if women benefit from it! Don't see any femunists complaining about women's under representation in sewer cleaning, homelessness, prison, murder etc.
Because it's an outdated law from a time where women didn't actively serve in the military and it needs to be updated include more inclusive language or abolished. Doesn't matter what fever dream gender you decide to be, either you sign up or serve time.
They tried that in WWI. It did not go well. Turns out sending all your skilled workers to the front lines at the same time means you no longer have the ability to sustain the necessary industry for war.
You are volunteering for the military by registering. If they call you name - you will be punished if you refuse or don't want to go etc! Her body, her choice. His body, the government's choice!
Shitty part is if you have a ID your automatically enrolled into it so yeah if you have a Drivers License or any ID issued by the state or federal government you were automatically enrolled if i remember correctly
Well selective service is still a thing, all men when they turn 18 have to register for it or else it’s a federal crime. But it’s likely to never to be used given how the criteria would have to be a serious threat to the nation as a whole and more manpower is desperately needed like word war 2. Also the U.S. already has such a large and expensive military, that the draft is likely never to be used unless something goes really wrong or a war with a world power were in motion.
the way that americans are thinking about war reminds me in a way of how we (israelis) were thinking... being strong and big means 0 if you arent READY for war... the mexican cartels could pull a 7th on texas and i would not be suprised, it would probably be way easier to do since the border is so much bigger as well... (apart from the texans who thank god would be able to deffend themselves pretty great, unlike the lefty's in the kibbutzim...) if you guys dont want to be in a war be VERY ready for it. war is not some faraway situation, its a human reality. and america has a lot of enemies.
@@thehevytrooper america doesnt need foot soldiars any more. only time we have really used them in the past 20 years, is training troops in the middle east. besides that you think we really on the ground fighting? grunts have been replaced by tech. why send young men to die when we have drones and literal laser beam weapons.
actually that is not true, there have been lawsuits filed against the government to allow women in the draft, also congress hasn’t listened to women wanting the draft apply to both sexes
Those who hold more political and economic power are men. Men shouldn't seek help from women, when they look down on women that want to have more power. First give half of power men hold, then cry that feminists don't do anything for men.
There was a bill in Dec where it sits at the senate still to this day of women being force to draft. I think it should pass for all the single women. 🙏
Well selective service is still a thing, all men when they turn 18 have to register for it or else it’s a federal crime. But it’s likely to never to be used given how the criteria would have to be a serious threat to the nation as a whole and more manpower is desperately needed like word war 2. Also the U.S. already has such a large and expensive military, that the draft is likely never to be used unless something goes really wrong or a war with a world power were in motion. Not a single person has been drafted since Vietnam.
@@8ending8ranchesalso the war on terror post 9/11 gained a majority of support from the American people. So you would be wrong if you count that as “legal majority.” If you are talking about a war with a nation in particular, then you would be right.
The automatic enlistment has already been in effect before they formally announced it. You just get a letter in the mail telling said person they've been automatically enlisted as of 18years of age.
selective service isn't just the military. if the government needs you to build roads, work in a factory, etc, they'll use this too its pretty damned unlikely it would ever come to that though
My uncle couldn’t serve in combat due to a ragweed allergy but was still offered an administrative role as an officer. The U.S. Military will *always* find a place for you. 😂 I foresee SSS extending to females, minimum service times of 24-36 months, and the age range expanding to 18-40 if things pop off with Russia or similar conflicts.
When this draft ended the average age of an American was 29, now it’s 38, the cut off limit for the us military is 35, this means that most of the country is to old to fight,
I'm styll confused about the 2nd half of the vid. I think I understand if they choose, say, May 15th. But what does that mean when it chose 48 for the other one? I'm slow, lol, someone explain it to me in lament terms plz. Thnx.
There are very few situations in which the US is desperate enough to reinstate a draft without also being desperate enough to overrule the sexism of its geriatric ruling caste and make it universal. That the US was sexist back in the 1970's should not be news to you.
That ain’t right, I’m sorry, but I’m from ‘02, I’m 21, if anybody should be first in the COD lobby, it should be us, not the younger class men we went to school with
You probably got a drivers license or a student loan etc. Signing up for those while male is taken as volunteering for the military! Keep the letter, it will mean you can apply for Federal Employment when you are older. Without registering for SS they can deny you a job or fire you if you do get a job with them. Of course the 67% of federal employees who are female and never registered are safe in their jobs!
Im just confused on how they are actually gunna make anyone go, people will protest which lead to riots people are not gunna want to fight, they are to comfortable who gunna go fight a war when you can sit in your house with ac drinking a nice beverage watching ur favorite show 😂😂 no one
@@asherwyatt7421 just because it’s reinstated doesn’t mean it will happen. There is a major reason why it won’t happen. I’d be happy to tell you about it in two 3 words that you can look up.
@@LoveYoursco remember the USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6). Remember how that ship was lost? Remember they tried to blame one disgruntled sailor? Now just imagine, you implement a draft where thousands of people hate the military. It’s not like the drafts of the past where people loved their country and would rather protect it than watch it burn. 1000 drafted sailors could literally take out the entire fleet of aircraft carriers.
I honestly don't think most people will maim themselves to get out of this draft if and when it happens. If you have felonies, or even a drug abuse history, thy won't want you, at least at first. That'll go out the window the longer such a conflict lasts. Also they will figure out a way to bring the pain, and penalize you somehow for dodging the draft, they always do.
im old there gunna take my kids before they take me but you better go i have a number so do you (men) in extreme acts older people will be drafted for things like homeland defence like the ww1 vets manning anti aircraft installations and listing posts. others will ramp up the war industries
The Selective Service Must Be Updated to Serve ALL Equally! IOW, qualified males & females would be required to serve a minimum of two years PERIOD. Such service would be located at a site at least 1,000 miles from "home." Not all would serve in the military and such alternative public service might be in hospitals, outreach programs and other public service entities. It's time to spread the load and responsibility evenly. I'm just tossing this concept into the ring to adjust the need to maintain the country's needs for all...
The worst lottery to win
Big factz
Add mini will be winners which will be the biggest loser
scary part is that I would have been drafted in the last one (Vietnam), based on this lottery, had I been a few years older.
If a man does not register, he can ...
1. Be liable for upto $250,000 fine.
2. Upto 5 years in jail.
3. Can be refused federal employment for the rest of his life.
4. Is not eligible for federal student loans.
5. Will not be able to get a drivers license in some states.
if a woman does not register.
1. No consequences.
Yes we truly live in a Patriarchy that privileges men and oppresses women!
@@RandomUser043yeah the government says that they respect people's identities until it actually matters. During the draft if you have a penis, your female identity isn't respected. 😂
@@RandomUser043 Sad;y the US military don't see it that way!
The reason women are exempt from the draft is the patriarchy... Men doesn't think women are strong enough to serve snd should instead be at home. Not a single woman was part of making these decisions, its all men thinking thejre superior.
There has been multiple attempts to get women into the army but it's never gone far. And who's the reason for that? Men!
This is ome lf the the rare times the patriarchy backfired and made it worse for men. I think it'd only be fair to not make it mandatory for men also. Instead lf making it mandatory for women.
If you don't want to serve just choose a different gender - it's all the rage.
But women can join the combat arms now, so there is no reason not to select them.
Does the US have a law that says all places a law says "man" it can be read as saying women" and vice versa?
@@1337flite The law states only men are subject to the selective service. If they decide it included women then almost 70% of federal employees could face the sack! If a male federal employee is discovered not to have registered then he can be sacked!
The DoD/SSS have issued a statement about gender identity being irrelevant in their view, I believe.
The federal court has already issued a ruling that the men-only rule is uncontitutional but it was overturned I believe but never made it to the Supreme Court.
Gonna die in the bankers wars are ya?
Just might
I use to think like this but then I thought why would China stop at Tawain if they took that over? They’d be the #1 global superpower by a long shot, So i’d be down to stop that than go to jail for not doing my service, maybe our country needs this in a way to unify idk
@@juans1468 If the politicians can't get people to VOLUNTARILY fight for their cause, then the cause is not legitimate.
Conscription is slavery.
Good thing its been proven that volunteer armies preform all around better than conscripted
Depends on your goal. If you're planning on invading, sure, you don't want conscripts.
But if you don't have a need to project force, nothing does deterrence like every single person in your country having been through military training, with a solid portion of them having trained recently in refreshing courses, with hardware preplaced in every town and village.
Which is all well and good until shit hits the fan and you need more soldiers than are willing to volunteer.
I'd wager the majority of men between 20 and 26 wouldn't meet the requirements for enlistment. 😂
Until the volunteers run out. Just ask Russia, the Ukraine or the US Army in the 1960s or for that matter the US Forces of the 2020s who are having a huge personel issue.
If we’re fighting in Eastern Europe, the Pacific, South China Sea and the Middle East, there’s going to be a draft. There would be one even if the military met 100% of its recruitment goals, which it hasn’t for years
why just the men? why are todays women not protesting against this blatant discrimination?
No, equality is only needed if women benefit from it!
Don't see any femunists complaining about women's under representation in sewer cleaning, homelessness, prison, murder etc.
Because it's an outdated law from a time where women didn't actively serve in the military and it needs to be updated include more inclusive language or abolished.
Doesn't matter what fever dream gender you decide to be, either you sign up or serve time.
It was 1970, it would likley be different today
@@nathansavage8692I mean only men have to sign up for the draft, still to this day
@@nathansavage8692 Soooooo close!
The correct answer was 1917.
The Selective Service Bill passed on May 18, 1917.
Honestly always thought that the draft was just if you’re a man who’s 18 and older you had to enlist 😂
Same.
They tried that in WWI. It did not go well. Turns out sending all your skilled workers to the front lines at the same time means you no longer have the ability to sustain the necessary industry for war.
It is.
If they call your name, you are in the Army!
You are volunteering for the military by registering.
If they call you name - you will be punished if you refuse or don't want to go etc!
Her body, her choice. His body, the government's choice!
But now you can just be trans.
@@jeltoninc.8542 nope. Army does not recognize trans men pretending to be women. Nice try.
Shitty part is if you have a ID your automatically enrolled into it so yeah if you have a Drivers License or any ID issued by the state or federal government you were automatically enrolled if i remember correctly
Depends on state. Michigan, no. Utah, yes.
Only if you are male! 50% of people with drivers licenses and 67% of those with student loans are not registered - the female drivers/students!
@@hWat-Ever didnt know that everything I got was from my family so it was 2nd hand at best and I kept getting conflicting answers when I researched it
Well selective service is still a thing, all men when they turn 18 have to register for it or else it’s a federal crime. But it’s likely to never to be used given how the criteria would have to be a serious threat to the nation as a whole and more manpower is desperately needed like word war 2. Also the U.S. already has such a large and expensive military, that the draft is likely never to be used unless something goes really wrong or a war with a world power were in motion.
the way that americans are thinking about war reminds me in a way of how we (israelis) were thinking... being strong and big means 0 if you arent READY for war... the mexican cartels could pull a 7th on texas and i would not be suprised, it would probably be way easier to do since the border is so much bigger as well... (apart from the texans who thank god would be able to deffend themselves pretty great, unlike the lefty's in the kibbutzim...)
if you guys dont want to be in a war be VERY ready for it. war is not some faraway situation, its a human reality. and america has a lot of enemies.
@@thehevytrooperfor me it goes back to the Latin phrase “si vis pacem, para bellum”
@@thehevytrooper america doesnt need foot soldiars any more.
only time we have really used them in the past 20 years, is training troops in the middle east.
besides that you think we really on the ground fighting?
grunts have been replaced by tech.
why send young men to die when we have drones and literal laser beam weapons.
I didnt even register I just got a letter in the mail saying I was in it now
You are too complacent. Thats when the worst happens.
The only lottery I would ever win!
No feminist asking for equality in this area😂
actually that is not true, there have been lawsuits filed against the government to allow women in the draft, also congress hasn’t listened to women wanting the draft apply to both sexes
Those who hold more political and economic power are men. Men shouldn't seek help from women, when they look down on women that want to have more power. First give half of power men hold, then cry that feminists don't do anything for men.
Actualy yes. Feminists do want equality in the draft.
@@standard-anime-girljpeg6479 becouse thats ridiculous, the crazy feminists arent getting everyones mothers in ww3 trenches😂
There was a bill in Dec where it sits at the senate still to this day of women being force to draft. I think it should pass for all the single women. 🙏
I got hemorrhoids, scabies and suffer from anxiety 😥 can’t go. Too risky for them. 😮
I love my country but I would never fight for this POS administration
If that ever happens I'm faking my death again. It got me out of jury duty and its gonna get me out of service
We all need to stand against selective service over seas it is not the intended use of conscription. Never again!
Also against war for profit
@@jiaan100 that has nothing to do with the video but yes 99% of Americans agree with you
@@jiaan100 not a single war waged by America since ww2 has been sported by a legal majority of the American people.
Well selective service is still a thing, all men when they turn 18 have to register for it or else it’s a federal crime. But it’s likely to never to be used given how the criteria would have to be a serious threat to the nation as a whole and more manpower is desperately needed like word war 2. Also the U.S. already has such a large and expensive military, that the draft is likely never to be used unless something goes really wrong or a war with a world power were in motion. Not a single person has been drafted since Vietnam.
@@8ending8ranchesalso the war on terror post 9/11 gained a majority of support from the American people. So you would be wrong if you count that as “legal majority.” If you are talking about a war with a nation in particular, then you would be right.
Its giving hunger games
I never knew how they decided . I had to register for it when I turned 18 in 1988.
If the dradt is brought back, it should be ages 10 - 90!
The automatic enlistment has already been in effect before they formally announced it. You just get a letter in the mail telling said person they've been automatically enlisted as of 18years of age.
Damn as a 29 year old I thought I'd go first since I've got particular skills. Thanks young folks for going first
I don't think the young men will fight in a war that they have absolutely no control over. If you want the war, you should fight it.
selective service isn't just the military. if the government needs you to build roads, work in a factory, etc, they'll use this too
its pretty damned unlikely it would ever come to that though
I never thought I’d see kids saying it’s cool to chop off your junk. But here we are.
Doesn't that completely contradict the 13th amendment?
@@jeltoninc.8542what kind of crack are you on 😂
My uncle couldn’t serve in combat due to a ragweed allergy but was still offered an administrative role as an officer. The U.S. Military will *always* find a place for you. 😂
I foresee SSS extending to females, minimum service times of 24-36 months, and the age range expanding to 18-40 if things pop off with Russia or similar conflicts.
When this draft ended the average age of an American was 29, now it’s 38, the cut off limit for the us military is 35, this means that most of the country is to old to fight,
Selective Service is still in effect.
If it was reinstated.
It's still in place
Bro looks like he needs a good night sleep. Take care of yourself man 💤
Its always young men who die. Why?
I'm styll confused about the 2nd half of the vid.
I think I understand if they choose, say, May 15th.
But what does that mean when it chose 48 for the other one?
I'm slow, lol, someone explain it to me in lament terms plz.
Thnx.
@abdc1234xyz
Wow. 👌🏾
I appreciate the in-depth explanation, but I'm apparently a dummy, and I'm now even more confused. Lol
@abdc1234xyz
Lol.
My brain jus isn't clicking the lego parts together.
Having a brain fart rn. Haha.
'Ppreciate ya tho!
Shit. Im the perfect age. I was born 2004
What excuses will exclude people this time?
Bill Clinton......
EXPLAINED HOW IT WORKS ALREADY!!
THANK YOU...
Very unfortunatly this country has voted for and elected the un american. Would not fight hard for it
Our generation is really aboutta be modern day nam vets
Will the Feminists also be drafted?
women will according to the new selective service
I have a problem with the term MEN, it is 2024 and women can do everything a man can.
There are very few situations in which the US is desperate enough to reinstate a draft without also being desperate enough to overrule the sexism of its geriatric ruling caste and make it universal.
That the US was sexist back in the 1970's should not be news to you.
That ain’t right, I’m sorry, but I’m from ‘02, I’m 21, if anybody should be first in the COD lobby, it should be us, not the younger class men we went to school with
They should draft first age 60 first and going down
How does it work on leap year
😂
Forrest Gump
So , this aged poorly
ye it did😂
why no women?
Some animals are more equal than others.
I got a letter last year saying I was signed up for selective service
You probably got a drivers license or a student loan etc. Signing up for those while male is taken as volunteering for the military! Keep the letter, it will mean you can apply for Federal Employment when you are older. Without registering for SS they can deny you a job or fire you if you do get a job with them. Of course the 67% of federal employees who are female and never registered are safe in their jobs!
Does anyone not understand when men are selected? It's much like deer hunting, any why most the tags are male and not female.
With women wanting equality they will be eligable for the draft also, correct?
Most women aren’t war mongers I’ll give them that
Umm how can sleepy joe not put his social agenda in front of,this process and put males at the bottom of the list?
Im just confused on how they are actually gunna make anyone go, people will protest which lead to riots people are not gunna want to fight, they are to comfortable who gunna go fight a war when you can sit in your house with ac drinking a nice beverage watching ur favorite show 😂😂 no one
WoOT, Bring back the LBJ Camps.
There will never be another draft
This didn't age well lol
@@asherwyatt7421 just because it’s reinstated doesn’t mean it will happen. There is a major reason why it won’t happen. I’d be happy to tell you about it in two 3 words that you can look up.
@@Velvetred1551why?
@@LoveYoursco remember the USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6). Remember how that ship was lost? Remember they tried to blame one disgruntled sailor?
Now just imagine, you implement a draft where thousands of people hate the military. It’s not like the drafts of the past where people loved their country and would rather protect it than watch it burn. 1000 drafted sailors could literally take out the entire fleet of aircraft carriers.
@@asherwyatt7421 you still there buddy?
*gets drafted*
Oops, looks like I just accidentally shot myself in the foot.🤷♂️
I honestly don't think most people will maim themselves to get out of this draft if and when it happens. If you have felonies, or even a drug abuse history, thy won't want you, at least at first. That'll go out the window the longer such a conflict lasts. Also they will figure out a way to bring the pain, and penalize you somehow for dodging the draft, they always do.
im old there gunna take my kids before they take me but you better go i have a number so do you (men) in extreme acts older people will be drafted for things like homeland defence like the ww1 vets manning anti aircraft installations and listing posts. others will ramp up the war industries
It won't work at all. No one in my family will fight your jew wars.
I honestly think this would be good for our country
I would literally maim myself rather than be drafted lol
this didnt age well
It wouldn't work I don't think, as an unwillingly army is worse than a small one with desire to be around
The Selective Service Must Be Updated to Serve ALL Equally!
IOW, qualified males & females would be required to serve a minimum of two years PERIOD. Such service would be located at a site at least 1,000 miles from "home." Not all would serve in the military and such alternative public service might be in hospitals, outreach programs and other public service entities.
It's time to spread the load and responsibility evenly.
I'm just tossing this concept into the ring to adjust the need to maintain the country's needs for all...
Covert communism 😅
After the election
lol this shit never gunna happen.
spoke too soon😂😂😂😂
@@deesosa401 They reinstated the draft!?
Yeah ur cooked