the suit "problem" isn't a problem, just bring up 3 more suits with you, and add 3 temporary seats, you're not lifting 3 people up, you're bringing them down which is allot easier.
Everybody is mindlessly fixated with the idea that H2O and CO2 on Mars will make supporting life possible are blatantly forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that *NITROGEN* is also necessary for terrestrial life, particularly plants. Mars doesn't have much of it. The Martian atmosphere is already about the same pressure as Earth's at an altitude of 200,000 feet! Nitrogen is less than 3% of that thin atmosphere on Mars and, cold as the planet is, it's not cold enough to sustain deposits in the regolith. Especially without plants fixing the nitrogen into various molecules. So, you could could *MAYBE,* with a lot of technological effort and energy expenditure, extract enough nitrogen to sustain some small outposts. But even if you could warm Mars to an Earthlike temperature you still wouldn't have enough nitrogen (or oxygen) to "terraform" the planet. The required elements simply are not there in the quantities needed.
Some plants do in fact produce nitrogen. It is currently unknown if it is a sustainable amount for lifeforms in a controlled environment, tests are, as always underway. Terraforming? Completely unfeasible given current and even the wildest dreams of technology. But, dreaming is what drives man forward. It is important to let people dream
Makes a lot of sense. Any ideas on how to go about getting these elements needed to the surface of mars? I imagine it would be a stupid idea to take vast amounts of what’s needed from earth to mars. But is there any spot in the solar system that would be a good substitute?
Imagine learning about nitrogen from the samr academic who are telling you that H20 and C20 is essential for supporting life and still stating your opinion as if it weren't common knowledge that Nitrogen plays a role on our cycle of life lol Guess what? The reason Nitrogen is the most abundant gas on Earth is because ironically is the most abundant gas disposed as waste. The percentages of Nitrogens on Mars are more than enough to jumpstart the cycle of fixation our plants absorb from the soil for nourishment thanks to a non ending cycle of Nitrification and Detrification produced by bacteria which is then absorbed by herbivorous and omnivorous who are themselves absorbed by a carnivorous consumers and all end contributing to cycle of Nitrogen by recycling back to the atmosphere in the form of waste for it to be absorbed and recompose once again by bacteria. In case you don't understand what I'm saying: The introduction of a colony of humans is more than enough to increase the level of Nitrogen on that planet without ever affecting Earth. If instead of trying to sound like an expert you invested that time on learning common knowledge you would know that the lrvels of Nitrogen on Mars are more than sufficient to sustain life.
I feel like there are dozen of frozen Large Lakes cover up with Mar Dust by layers. I would believe between 4 and 15 inches of Mars Sand. Undected from human eye or camaras. Most Evaporated as well many covered. There is more ice water their then what we think.
I know of a planet that has an absolutely shit load of drinkable water currently. And you don't have to spend literally trillions of dollars in resources to get to it.
It would be nice to think that the team at the ISS could patch the hole with some sealant or epoxy glue and refill the coolant. It's not as though the capsule needs to be re-usable after entry.
I wonder why they don't use cold welding for space repair. Space has no oxygen, therefore metal doesn't form an oxide layer on the outside, which means that you can essentially weld two pieces of metal together in outer space simply by pressing them together.
@@peopleofearth6250 Not quite that simple since most metal develops an oxide coating or has paint and may be contaminated with oil, dirt or dust. You need to remove the coating and contaminants for the metal atoms to bond together or you will get a very weak bond. But i agree they could try something like a friction stir welded plug to patch the hole and maybe they will try. A supply craft can send them up a puncture repair kit to fix the leak with a friction welding tool or thermal welding tools.
Wait you have to be kidding me, people will get in a little bitty capsule on top of a very large amount of explosives, and they're not prepared to die if shit goes wrong.
Astronauts in the Dragon do not have to wear space suits, space suits are merely precautionary. In the event of an emergency ISS astronauts woudn't have time put on space suits no matter which capsule theyuse as a lifeboat.
Could SpaceX launch a CargoDragon “tomorrow”? If so could they ship up extra space suits and extra O2 so the current CrewDragon could be used as a longer term bolt hole for 7instead of the current short term 4 ppl?
FYI to be clear water ice and snow will end does sublimate very often in huge areas going directly from a solid or semi-solid state to a vapor state this is all dependent of course on moisture in the atmosphere temperature at the surface temperature in the atmosphere pressure of the atmosphere at the particular time Etc
Would be nice to see some venus probs landing for a long term stay if possible. Or a soon to be moon base to make bigger better telescopes to see deeper into the universe and mybe find life.
The Teslabot might do it for us and we just go there in luxury. It's just a matter of making the robots as dexterous as us. With the way our algorithms are progressing it could even be some time soon. Maybe not soon but not too far off. The hardware mechanics are pretty straight forward, it's the controlling that's hard (the software). Needs AI that's for sure. If it happens we all retire young and rich. We won't even fight wars anymore, the robots will. The bots will be able to build stuff in space (like O'Neil cylinders). Not possible with just humans and way too expensive. Bots will (eventually) make everything free (including O'Neil cylinders).
In the big picture adding exoplanets or moons , to lncrease Mars mass to the point it has a magentosphere will be critical. It could take millions of years, and energies still to be discovered.
Anyone please tell me your thoughts on viewing the past. If somehow we could get so far away from Earth where the events of the past haven't reached yet could we technically go there with some unbelievable future technology and view Earth time where our reality is finally arriving from that time? No interactions just see back in time? Like an example being Stars may have died but we have yet to see as the message from many light years hasn't reached us so we are technically looking back in time. Hope I explained my question correctly thanks.
No, because that would require superluminal spaceflight which violates the laws of physics as we know them. The only way to travel faster than light would require negative energy which is not proven to exist.
Well, why don't they always have an escape capsule attached to the space station like they have in the movies it is unacceptable to place the station crews in such jeopardy.
It is not going to be survivable at -122 degrees, if that is where the water ice is; it may as well be on Jupiter. Water must be accessible somewhere it is temperate.
You should ask Elon for a Starship that has a lock on the nose to Big enough to evacuate every on in a emergency...1for all _ all for 1. Mean while you can bring extra resources at once.
Did you? It wasn't exactly a 'discovery'. More like NASA's published a 3 minute holiday season video discussing what was discovered over the years about snow and ice on Mars. Disappointed? Me too. In a seperate comment I wrote several paragraphs nailing exactly how we got clickbaited, if you want to spend the time.
@@davidarbuckle7236 So first I deleted the view from my history, and then when it popped up agian on my home page, I selected don't recommend the channel. I do it this way a lot. It's harsh but it's a good way to make the recommendations algorithm work much better. Discouraging the behavior is a different issue. In other, more serious cases I may have been known to report a vid or two on other channels for misinformation. It's great to have control over your viewing content, but they sure make you work for it.
Why do they need to use the Russian space suits? If they are sending a capsule up, why can't they send a few spare suits up inside? And a container for storing a few more outside (not sunside of course) while we're there. Sounds a bit dumb to me...
@@jessepollard7132 yep, I'd be very surprised if they didn't do 3d scans though. Even mid-level online places can do that pretty easily just with a few cellphone photos these days. And you likely change quite a bit after a few months in space, so I bet they leave some margin for error
I met Elon Musk in the summer of 2000 and we discussed many of these ideas. There isn't a smarter CEO that has done what Elon has done with Tesla or SpaceX by building his own Starships. Elon is building multiple Starships for the consideration of commercial space exploration and colonization. Some people think they are smarter than Elon but I have yet to see anyone outsmart him. Using methane and oxygen, also known as ultra cool methylox for his Starships Rockets was brilliant considering most planets we land on have the ingredients to propel the Starships further out of our solar system and back. Of course the use of hydrogen 3 in a nuclear fusion rocket would take us to the depths of our solar system and further a lot faster. Over the period of four to five years he can realign him self back in the winning seat because he's already aware of the steps he has to take and he's already making them! Elon Musk is making the world cleaner and better place to live for many generations to come. I don't know if you could say the same for the fossil fuel industry! Even though the businesses we talked about we're going to be incredibly difficult to become successful at and there was a good chance of failing. So we talked about ways of reducing advertising, manufacturing and distribution costs because Elon was going to move forward regardless. Innovative people with integrity expect to be believed otherwise they let time prove them right. So let's shoot for the Moon and Mars, then we will to live amongst the Stars!
trust me no humans are going to mars in your lifetime...... i guarantee you. there is still alot of variables they haven't worked out, unless they already when there and didnt tell anyone.
ah not really, you can still breathe in Ukraine and there's no radiation and you can hunt for food and drink water and have sex and still enjoy the little things....... space is no one's friend
the suit "problem" isn't a problem, just bring up 3 more suits with you, and add 3 temporary seats, you're not lifting 3 people up, you're bringing them down which is allot easier.
Everybody is mindlessly fixated with the idea that H2O and CO2 on Mars will make supporting life possible are blatantly forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that *NITROGEN* is also necessary for terrestrial life, particularly plants. Mars doesn't have much of it. The Martian atmosphere is already about the same pressure as Earth's at an altitude of 200,000 feet! Nitrogen is less than 3% of that thin atmosphere on Mars and, cold as the planet is, it's not cold enough to sustain deposits in the regolith. Especially without plants fixing the nitrogen into various molecules. So, you could could *MAYBE,* with a lot of technological effort and energy expenditure, extract enough nitrogen to sustain some small outposts. But even if you could warm Mars to an Earthlike temperature you still wouldn't have enough nitrogen (or oxygen) to "terraform" the planet. The required elements simply are not there in the quantities needed.
Some plants do in fact produce nitrogen. It is currently unknown if it is a sustainable amount for lifeforms in a controlled environment, tests are, as always underway. Terraforming? Completely unfeasible given current and even the wildest dreams of technology. But, dreaming is what drives man forward. It is important to let people dream
Makes a lot of sense. Any ideas on how to go about getting these elements needed to the surface of mars? I imagine it would be a stupid idea to take vast amounts of what’s needed from earth to mars. But is there any spot in the solar system that would be a good substitute?
@@chubbynuggz4298 with the next rocket that goes, just have seeds in water pockets with parachute
May i ask how does mars almost have The same atmosferic prezure but only 3% atmosfer of earth that sounds of to me ???
Imagine learning about nitrogen from the samr academic who are telling you that H20 and C20 is essential for supporting life and still stating your opinion as if it weren't common knowledge that Nitrogen plays a role on our cycle of life lol
Guess what? The reason Nitrogen is the most abundant gas on Earth is because ironically is the most abundant gas disposed as waste. The percentages of Nitrogens on Mars are more than enough to jumpstart the cycle of fixation our plants absorb from the soil for nourishment thanks to a non ending cycle of Nitrification and Detrification produced by bacteria which is then absorbed by herbivorous and omnivorous who are themselves absorbed by a carnivorous consumers and all end contributing to cycle of Nitrogen by recycling back to the atmosphere in the form of waste for it to be absorbed and recompose once again by bacteria.
In case you don't understand what I'm saying: The introduction of a colony of humans is more than enough to increase the level of Nitrogen on that planet without ever affecting Earth.
If instead of trying to sound like an expert you invested that time on learning common knowledge you would know that the lrvels of Nitrogen on Mars are more than sufficient to sustain life.
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I feel like there are dozen of frozen Large Lakes cover up with Mar Dust by layers. I would believe between 4 and 15 inches of Mars Sand. Undected from human eye or camaras. Most Evaporated as well many covered. There is more ice water their then what we think.
buried frozen seas..
Spell much, bro?? lol...but yeah totally possible!
I know of a planet that has an absolutely shit load of drinkable water currently. And you don't have to spend literally trillions of dollars in resources to get to it.
It would be nice to think that the team at the ISS could patch the hole with some sealant or epoxy glue and refill the coolant. It's not as though the capsule needs to be re-usable after entry.
I wonder why they don't use cold welding for space repair. Space has no oxygen, therefore metal doesn't form an oxide layer on the outside, which means that you can essentially weld two pieces of metal together in outer space simply by pressing them together.
@@peopleofearth6250 Not quite that simple since most metal develops an oxide coating or has paint and may be contaminated with oil, dirt or dust. You need to remove the coating and contaminants for the metal atoms to bond together or you will get a very weak bond.
But i agree they could try something like a friction stir welded plug to patch the hole and maybe they will try. A supply craft can send them up a puncture repair kit to fix the leak with a friction welding tool or thermal welding tools.
They need the guy who builds a raft out of his super tape.
Wait you have to be kidding me, people will get in a little bitty capsule on top of a very large amount of explosives, and they're not prepared to die if shit goes wrong.
Dragon as designed has 7 seats. NASA has the limit of 4 for their missions.
Astronauts in the Dragon do not have to wear space suits, space suits are merely precautionary. In the event of an emergency ISS astronauts woudn't have time put on space suits no matter which capsule theyuse as a lifeboat.
Snow is good for travelling on, especially when’s its flat, would be good for a snowmobile kind of rover😊
Great content and presentation. 😊
Was that dude in the Soyuz really using a "finglonger"?
Prof. Farnsworth would be so proud...
Could SpaceX launch a CargoDragon “tomorrow”? If so could they ship up extra space suits and extra O2 so the current CrewDragon could be used as a longer term bolt hole for 7instead of the current short term 4 ppl?
Using A.I. to control robots and machines to do all the work with wireless signals. 😂
thats what they are doing now. ..... hahahaha
FYI to be clear water ice and snow will end does sublimate very often in huge areas going directly from a solid or semi-solid state to a vapor state this is all dependent of course on moisture in the atmosphere temperature at the surface temperature in the atmosphere pressure of the atmosphere at the particular time Etc
It's called freezer burn when it happens to your food.
8:55 Hey flat earthers, there's your container!
lol Yep those temps are pretty scary lol. But you can actually use dry ice boards to surf the Martian surface.
Interesting. Thanks.
Would be nice to see some venus probs landing for a long term stay if possible.
Or a soon to be moon base to make bigger better telescopes to see deeper into the universe and mybe find life.
The Teslabot might do it for us and we just go there in luxury. It's just a matter of making the robots as dexterous as us. With the way our algorithms are progressing it could even be some time soon. Maybe not soon but not too far off. The hardware mechanics are pretty straight forward, it's the controlling that's hard (the software). Needs AI that's for sure. If it happens we all retire young and rich. We won't even fight wars anymore, the robots will. The bots will be able to build stuff in space (like O'Neil cylinders). Not possible with just humans and way too expensive. Bots will (eventually) make everything free (including O'Neil cylinders).
Ummm, there's this telescope known as JWST ...
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In the big picture adding exoplanets or moons , to lncrease Mars mass to the point it has a magentosphere will be critical. It could take millions of years, and energies still to be discovered.
this planet reminds me of geonosis
Love it I want to go too!
Thank you The Space Race video interesting compliment information genereal progect future Nasa.
First question, is it H2O or CO2 because those are two different things
Topic suggestion: Artificial Magnetophere!
Been thinking that same line. Maybe magnetic generator satellites. It could be done with nuclear powered satellites I would think.
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BREAKING NEWS! NASA DISCOVERED FROZEN THINGY ON MARS! MAYBE WATER MAYBE NOT.
Dear post owner, kindly request on your audience behalf to NASA to add a measure scale to the Martian permafrost photo.
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As if life on earth was not enough of a struggle...what are you doing humans?
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JUNO...Built JPL Tough! 😎👍
Hey um guys? If you get in space? What do you eat? What do you drink? Where do you SHIT?!?!?!!!
Anyone please tell me your thoughts on viewing the past. If somehow we could get so far away from Earth where the events of the past haven't reached yet could we technically go there with some unbelievable future technology and view Earth time where our reality is finally arriving from that time? No interactions just see back in time? Like an example being Stars may have died but we have yet to see as the message from many light years hasn't reached us so we are technically looking back in time. Hope I explained my question correctly thanks.
No, because that would require superluminal spaceflight which violates the laws of physics as we know them. The only way to travel faster than light would require negative energy which is not proven to exist.
Well, why don't they always have an escape capsule attached to the space station like they have in the movies it is unacceptable to place the station crews in such jeopardy.
The leak is in the capsule. The station isn't leaking.
They DO! It has LEAK!
dope
It is not going to be survivable at -122 degrees, if that is where the water ice is; it may as well be on Jupiter. Water must be accessible somewhere it is temperate.
i read that it gets up to 70f in the equatorial regions but you still have to consider the radiation.....
You should ask Elon for a Starship that has a lock on the nose to
Big enough to evacuate every on in a emergency...1for all _ all for 1.
Mean while you can bring extra resources at once.
I bet that Phill Swift could patch that hole
Cross-country skiers are going to lose their minds
Excellent stuff bro
Yep Nitrogen is also required…
Broom stick to the rescue.
Hey look everybody, it's Valhalla
just land on the pole already😳
Yeah, boiling water to drink and more. Modern gold rush for resources.
Are we there yet?🤣😎❤️
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Only if we create own buble atmosphere on mars haah
Did I miss the major new discovery?
Did you? It wasn't exactly a 'discovery'. More like NASA's published a 3 minute holiday season video discussing what was discovered over the years about snow and ice on Mars. Disappointed? Me too. In a seperate comment I wrote several paragraphs nailing exactly how we got clickbaited, if you want to spend the time.
@@deanmichalos6848 It seems to par for the course on youtube now. Over promise, under deliver.
@@davidarbuckle7236 So first I deleted the view from my history, and then when it popped up agian on my home page, I selected don't recommend the channel. I do it this way a lot. It's harsh but it's a good way to make the recommendations algorithm work much better.
Discouraging the behavior is a different issue. In other, more serious cases I may have been known to report a vid or two on other channels for misinformation.
It's great to have control over your viewing content, but they sure make you work for it.
Mars moonshine?
Soooo… We get more excited and inspired by ice than a camper cook when they gas it off and no skin graft required.
The great news is that CO2 can be turned into O2 which means we can find ways to keep Earthlings alive on Mars.
Thanks, myguy! 🙏
This is ground control to Major Tom...can you hear me major Tom...can you...here am I floating in my tin can...far above the world....
How does a satellite float through space around the earth and not get his by little rocks floating in space?
they do get hit the JWST was damaged in May when a micrometeoroid struck one the of the 18 gold-plated mirrors
Fix Mars and destroy Earth... Really clever!
It won't be what happens but it would be very cool if China stepped in, like in The Martian.
I don’t care how terrible it gets on earth it will never get as bad as the moon or mars
We should just run a pipeline from earth to Mars. Then we could pump out climate change air to Mars and make it just like here.
You are joking... Right?
Maybe i am wrong but isn"t it canadarm? You everytime say canada-arm. There is not another a in it.
Country club Wal mart starship training center
Why do they need to use the Russian space suits? If they are sending a capsule up, why can't they send a few spare suits up inside? And a container for storing a few more outside (not sunside of course) while we're there. Sounds a bit dumb to me...
Here's a good 'brain hack' for you: If it sounds dumb it means you don't have the whole picture. Go find out more.
@@deanmichalos6848 in this case maybe, but your "brain hack" will fail in the vast majority of cases...
I think the suits are custom fitted. hard to "custom fit" without the person to be fitted.
If something sounds dumb, it can have two causes..
@@jessepollard7132 yep, I'd be very surprised if they didn't do 3d scans though. Even mid-level online places can do that pretty easily just with a few cellphone photos these days. And you likely change quite a bit after a few months in space, so I bet they leave some margin for error
o hell no jesus came
F mars focus on earth!
🇧🇷 .
...Mars is rusting
I met Elon Musk in the summer of 2000 and we discussed many of these ideas. There isn't a smarter CEO that has done what Elon has done with Tesla or SpaceX by building his own Starships. Elon is building multiple Starships for the consideration of commercial space exploration and colonization. Some people think they are smarter than Elon but I have yet to see anyone outsmart him. Using methane and oxygen, also known as ultra cool methylox for his Starships Rockets was brilliant considering most planets we land on have the ingredients to propel the Starships further out of our solar system and back. Of course the use of hydrogen 3 in a nuclear fusion rocket would take us to the depths of our solar system and further a lot faster. Over the period of four to five years he can realign him self back in the winning seat because he's already aware of the steps he has to take and he's already making them! Elon Musk is making the world cleaner and better place to live for many generations to come. I don't know if you could say the same for the fossil fuel industry! Even though the businesses we talked about we're going to be incredibly difficult to become successful at and there was a good chance of failing. So we talked about ways of reducing advertising, manufacturing and distribution costs because Elon was going to move forward regardless. Innovative people with integrity expect to be believed otherwise they let time prove them right. So let's shoot for the Moon and Mars, then we will to live amongst the Stars!
trust me no humans are going to mars in your lifetime...... i guarantee you. there is still alot of variables they haven't worked out, unless they already when there and didnt tell anyone.
I think we must move to planets after Jupiter not before ( from the sun)
Jupiter will become our new sun
All these worlds are yours. Except Europa. Attempt no landing there.
@@ProuvaireJean Can't do that, Dave.
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you are still better of in space as a Russian citizen than in Ukraine ....
ah not really, you can still breathe in Ukraine and there's no radiation and you can hunt for food and drink water and have sex and still enjoy the little things....... space is no one's friend
Stop it..