Soul Hunter | Season 1 Episode 2 | Babylon 5 For the Second Time
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Join veteran Star Trek, and now Babylon 5 podcasters, Brent Allen and Jeff Akin as they dive into Babylon 5 for a second time! They revisit each episode with fresh insights and deeper analysis, reflecting on their first-time reactions. Perfect for First Ones and people new to the series, this journey offers a deeper connection to the world of Babylon 5!
Jeff absolutely hated this one the first time around. Will it be different the second time??
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I'm really glad you said the crackling was at your end, if I'd watched this video and still heard crackling, I'd have started running all sorts of diagnostics on my computer and wasted a whole load of time.
The rotating green ball ship (the Asimov) is actually a civilian starliner, not an Explorer ship. That type is seen a few times throughout the run.
"This show is doing something interesting." - Me (October 1995)
The end scene with Delenn is the first thing I remember seeing from watching for the 1st time. It felt uncomfortable seeing her taking it on herself to kill/free whatever was in those spheres. There is no way she could have known what they were or what she was doing to them. It gets even worse on later rewatches when we discover that the Minbari belief in Souls is flawed.
The Soul Hunters are akin to the older Jewish tradition where the soul is the "breath," and once the "breath" goes out, the soul is extinguished.
I want to see the episode where Sinclair talks to the Buddha Vorlon.😂
I kind of want to see the universe where Brent and Jeff hate B5 but force themselves to watch it again. "Why are we doing this to ourselves? We could be watching Star Trek!"
Funny that you should mention Susan and Steven's first interaction. Now. Think about their last interaction at the end of season 4. What a journey they went.
I don’t remember what their last interaction was, aside from being at the same table in sleeping in light. We’ll be looking for that one this go around.
@Babylon5FortheFirstTime please do. I think you will love it.
"There are no skippable episodes on the first watch."
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When I introduced the show to my spouse, I SPECIFICALLY skipped Infection because man in the rubber suit with no point. It wasn't until she decided to watch the series again while recovering from COVID that she saw Infection. I remember she asked me two questions - How do I not remember this, and what the [bleep] did I just watch?
While it's certainly not on my list of favorite episodes, "Infection" actually has a few interesting tidbits on rewatch. To wit: The Ikarrans used organic technology to create their war machines. Who else uses organic tech? That's right: the Shadows and the Vorlons. When did the Ikarrans develop this technology? About a thousand years ago. I don't need to mention what was happening a thousand years ago!
"Infection" also features the first appearance of Interplanetary Expeditions. Additionally, it builds on Sinclair's character arc (not in the most _subtle_ fashion, obviously), with Garibaldi calling him out for being a death-seeker. (On a related note: remember Lorien's statement that it's easier to find something worth dying for than living for? This was a line clearly more fitting with Sinclair's story than Sheridan's, and this episode slots in very nicely with it.)
I have to question whether or not I would have noticed any audio issues had Brent not said anything. I didn't notice anything last week.
Lots and lots of people commented on it both last week and this week. Glad you didn’t hear anything last week though. :-)
Franklin gives a modern medical take, sci-fi version...i.e. "personality matrix" etc...but his position on that isn't all that different than what the Soul Hunters actually do.
When I was a kid, I loved the movie The Lost Boys and the young men in that movie have their ears pierced so I did the same thing. Then I found out from a gay friend of mine that wearing a single earring in the left ear meant you were gay. I'm strait, but my gay buddy and I hung out a lot and I met a lot of gay people while hanging with him growing up, and according to the circle of gay folks I hung out with, a single earring in the left ear meant you were gay.
Now, I don't think anyone outside my circle of gay friends and acquittances knew that, and thus for the wider group of normies I don't think they thought of it as gay... I don't know. But, I think Ivanova is sporting the single earring to say she's a lesbian to those who know what it means, during that time, before its meaning got diluted by the normies doing it because they were clueless to it's symbolism and just thought it looked cool.
Question for you guys: which show's music (overall) do you like better? B5 or DS9?
Brent here: I like DS9’s theme song more than B5’s, but I like B5’s score more than DS9’s
@@Babylon5FortheFirstTime I would agree about B5's first season theme song, but I loved seasons 2, 3, and 4. (S5 was eh.) I think they could have redone DS9's opening along the lines of B5's season 4 opening and it would have worked nicely. (Not that there's anything wrong with DS9's as is)
I wondered if you guys would cover the few episodes you sorta hated in this series.....this being one of the couple that came to mind.....Late delivery from avalon being another 😂
We’ll do them all, including Avalon. Brent is actually looking forward to getting back to that one… but you’ll have to ask him why. I can’t figure it out.
Did this replace the first release? If so, I'll copy and paste my comment from there:
I wonder if the stilted speech thing would have worked better if the second soul hunter in the episode also exhibited it, but then apologised and explained it. There are times when it's right to leave it up to the audience to work out, other times it needs that bit of exposition in the episode. I'm curious what would happen if this episode was a bit latter in the series. On one hand I like that they establish early that they'll be talking about souls and spirituality, but was it jarring by having it shown so soon?
I'm not sure why people assume that everybody from species X is going to have the same language proficiency interacting with species Y.
The first soul-hunter here is here accidentally, no special interest in anybody here, until he finds something he thinks is worth harvesting. Why would he know any english out of the gate?
The second soul-hunter is here specifically to warn humans of the danger and to recover the 1st. Why wouldn't they select of of their own with the most experience and skill to interact with humans?
@@gehrehmee Because without the exposition, the reason for it doesn't come across for the audience. I'm not assuming anything, I'm just suggesting a way to fix something that doesn't work. For the Soul Hunters, it actually makes more sense for none of them to be proficient with a language until they come in to contact with a species if you understand how many languages are on Earth and then multiply it by the number of potential planets and species, and then for them to forget it once their work is done.
Honestly, I don’t think most people believe that in real life, alien species would just be able to speak a language. But all know this is a fictional world and have already suspended disbelief. So unless it serves the story, it’s really unnecessary.
@@Babylon5FortheFirstTime I'd like for it to be an explained feature as I feel like it adds something to the soul hunters - as they are typically unwelcome with almost every species, the idea that they'd need to adjust to them on contact adds something, but I never heard that was the reason why until the comments on reaction videos, and I can't think if any reactor gave that as a reason on first watch. Most times it's better to let the audience work it out, but others you need to have that dialogue. Exposition is not always a sin!
Babylon 5 would've done better in the ratings if this hadn't been the first post-pilot episode of it.
Midnight on the Firing Line was the first post pilot episode, unless you are calling Midnight on the Firing line a second pilot episode.
You will continually revise your estimate of Season 1 episodes much more on the second time around than you will any of the other seasons. After my first watch, Season 1 was fifth of five. On subsequent viewings, season 1 passes season 5. Still not as good as 2, 3, and 4 but definitely an improvement over the first impression.