I will continue doing these free livestreams on data consulting. But if you want more, I did create a course for those wanting to start consulting in data. It's launching soon! Sign up below docs.google.com/forms/d/1qn81T28UVsgFJKVEQeWOQIHtE7wHhctojk5iYv2agdI/edit
I have been creating content for a year and a half and I have been an analyst for a year now. I have started getting these enquiries. I have been super curious about what Alex has been up to with switching to being a consultant so I am psyched to see this episode! Thanks to you both!
I'm not personally interested in being a data consultant (at least at the moment) but thought this was an interesting conversation. Totally on board with Alex's comments about the slow adoption of new technology in companies and how understanding the handful of core concepts and technologies lends itself to familiarity with a whole host of tools even if you've never used that specific software before. Thanks for putting this out there.
Hello Ben and Alex, I'm big fan of both of you. Great contents! This might not related to this video. Any advice/reference or course about master data handling and management? Thank you both!
totally right on the ai thing. yes, people will lose current roles, but they will have openings to fill new roles, modified evolved roles. when there is a advancement in productivity or access of some kind, businesses are not sated, people are not sated. on the contrary, their appetite increases, their expectations for more increase. ok, you got music on a record, how about a cassette, now a cd, now an mp3 player, now an ipod, now you want limitless streaming.
hourly isnt so bad because often the client underestimates the hours required, so you might make more than with a flat rate. a decent approach to hourly is to set lower and upper limits, like ranging from 40-80 hours per month. so the client has minimum commitment, and a maximum cost exposure. then you have flexibility to calculate your billable hours however you want. if you end up working fewer hours, within your stated range, than the project cost you had in mind, you can overstate the hours to get what you aimed for. after all, it is super easy to understate the hours inadvertently, because you are probably not logging every thought you had about the project, how long you thought about it, every interaction and time it took to message, call, etc., every bit of research you do, etc.
After ~2 yrs of DE consulting in corporate world, I am considering this (didn't realize the consulting business model & how much I can potentially charge). Really insightful, but perhaps I should plan for this & see if this can actually become a reality.
Are there non-compete clause or concerns from your employer that you might leak confidential knowledge, when you do side hustle (RUclips, consulting, selling courses)? How do you navigate these issues with your boss? This is one thing holding me back. I work at one of the social media you guys are using as a DS. I have big concern showing my identity in my RUclips channel
I'd check you contract. But what i can tell you 1. You shouldn't work for competitors, when I worked at facebook i had to say no to a chance to consult for linkedin 2. You shouldn't work on your work laptop 3. You might want to check with your boss..but be careful there. I did that at facebook because when I got a job at facebook i told them ahead of time. I saw the same thing happen with a few friends Also for the identity thing, you can always write too!
I think it's less about how much you make at your current job and more about learning what people are willing to pay for, how much they are willing to pay and getting enough prospect calls to find projects people want to pay for. You could easily make more than 130k, but you need to make sure you have a funnel feeding you clients. Whether thats marketing, sales, etc.
@@SeattleDataGuy Facts. Hm.. maybe in the future there will be a data consulting community for client-attraction/client-base (or already exists & i haven't found yet). Otherwise might have to learn solo/find at least one extra person to pair up. At least for the beginning of the journey, it may be good to have a small group then branch out to solo data-consulting.
@@jameshizon4861 I have put together a course on it that also has a community attached! docs.google.com/forms/d/1qn81T28UVsgFJKVEQeWOQIHtE7wHhctojk5iYv2agdI/edit
I will continue doing these free livestreams on data consulting. But if you want more, I did create a course for those wanting to start consulting in data. It's launching soon! Sign up below docs.google.com/forms/d/1qn81T28UVsgFJKVEQeWOQIHtE7wHhctojk5iYv2agdI/edit
Not sure if I can start thinking if I'm already in a company but still considering. How many years of experience should be required to begin?
My two favorite Data RUclipsrs, united at last!
glad you liked it!
Thank you guys so much for your transparency- it is refreshing and I am more interested in working with you in the future as a result.
Glad you enjoyed the conversation!
Great video. Two RUclipsrs who inspired me and now I work as a data engineer more than 1 year!
Thanks for the kind words! Good luck on your journey
That was great Guys, really appreciate it
Thank you!
I have been creating content for a year and a half and I have been an analyst for a year now. I have started getting these enquiries. I have been super curious about what Alex has been up to with switching to being a consultant so I am psyched to see this episode! Thanks to you both!
that's exciting! and i am glad you found this video helpful!
This was extremely useful. Definitely coming back to it soon.
Great to hear!
I'm not personally interested in being a data consultant (at least at the moment) but thought this was an interesting conversation. Totally on board with Alex's comments about the slow adoption of new technology in companies and how understanding the handful of core concepts and technologies lends itself to familiarity with a whole host of tools even if you've never used that specific software before. Thanks for putting this out there.
you're welcome!
Really cool interview! :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm surprised onhow smart and humble you are, guys.
Thank you so much for both of you. I am healthcare senior Data analyst, I am planning to be q consultant.... you both a big stars for me
You can do it!
Hi, Did you start? I am also in healthcare
Great live!! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
I needed this talk
good luck!
Great video, really enjoyed
Excellent interview
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hello Ben and Alex, I'm big fan of both of you. Great contents! This might not related to this video. Any advice/reference or course about master data handling and management? Thank you both!
totally right on the ai thing. yes, people will lose current roles, but they will have openings to fill new roles, modified evolved roles. when there is a advancement in productivity or access of some kind, businesses are not sated, people are not sated. on the contrary, their appetite increases, their expectations for more increase. ok, you got music on a record, how about a cassette, now a cd, now an mp3 player, now an ipod, now you want limitless streaming.
hourly isnt so bad because often the client underestimates the hours required, so you might make more than with a flat rate. a decent approach to hourly is to set lower and upper limits, like ranging from 40-80 hours per month. so the client has minimum commitment, and a maximum cost exposure. then you have flexibility to calculate your billable hours however you want. if you end up working fewer hours, within your stated range, than the project cost you had in mind, you can overstate the hours to get what you aimed for. after all, it is super easy to understate the hours inadvertently, because you are probably not logging every thought you had about the project, how long you thought about it, every interaction and time it took to message, call, etc., every bit of research you do, etc.
After ~2 yrs of DE consulting in corporate world, I am considering this (didn't realize the consulting business model & how much I can potentially charge). Really insightful, but perhaps I should plan for this & see if this can actually become a reality.
Are there non-compete clause or concerns from your employer that you might leak confidential knowledge, when you do side hustle (RUclips, consulting, selling courses)? How do you navigate these issues with your boss? This is one thing holding me back. I work at one of the social media you guys are using as a DS. I have big concern showing my identity in my RUclips channel
I'd check you contract. But what i can tell you
1. You shouldn't work for competitors, when I worked at facebook i had to say no to a chance to consult for linkedin
2. You shouldn't work on your work laptop
3. You might want to check with your boss..but be careful there. I did that at facebook because when I got a job at facebook i told them ahead of time. I saw the same thing happen with a few friends
Also for the identity thing, you can always write too!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
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glad you liked it!
Lastly if you make $130k already, what would be expected project-based annual revenue at end of the year?
I think it's less about how much you make at your current job and more about learning what people are willing to pay for, how much they are willing to pay and getting enough prospect calls to find projects people want to pay for. You could easily make more than 130k, but you need to make sure you have a funnel feeding you clients. Whether thats marketing, sales, etc.
@@SeattleDataGuy Facts. Hm.. maybe in the future there will be a data consulting community for client-attraction/client-base (or already exists & i haven't found yet). Otherwise might have to learn solo/find at least one extra person to pair up. At least for the beginning of the journey, it may be good to have a small group then branch out to solo data-consulting.
@@jameshizon4861 I have put together a course on it that also has a community attached! docs.google.com/forms/d/1qn81T28UVsgFJKVEQeWOQIHtE7wHhctojk5iYv2agdI/edit
@@SeattleDataGuy Ah - right on. I may look into it soon/end of yr. Still need to wait out w/ current company.
@@SeattleDataGuy sry if I am asking too many questions. But how many yrs of exp is recommended for someone to do this (specifically in the DE space)?
Can I do internship in your company?