Former a badge Alice here ! Alice can struggle with Hermit because little Orpheus actually takes damage and gives it to the whole team and little Orpheus can also be stunned by him (experienced more often than I’d like to admit)
yes, and on the other hand, you can practice to cancel the Orphy just before Hermit attacks Night Watch kinda counters Journalist as well, since she cannot reliably body-block with Orphy
@@kawakami_idvit feels similar to perfumer in that case, its all about timing and mindgames. Ive had kiting experiences with all sorts of nightwatches, but i seriously heavily prefer journalist over perfumer early game, mainly because of the free presence perfumer gives. Unless if the hunter has all of the presence already, i wouldnt mind watching perfumer kite
Undead is soo damn good against Cheerleader.He can use his kinetic dashes to catch her after her speed boost and also if she will revive a teammate through her "motivate" ability,it actually makes situation for survs worse cus Undead will quickly catch standing up surv again and promote him to the next stage of bleeding
Gravekeeper also can't be pulled back by Night Watch's wind while he's in his shovel, but he can easily catch up with his leap. It's still limited for how long the shovel lasts, but I like using GK for kiting against him because of it. It definitely helps for transitioning to new areas in open space.
That actually sounds so useful! I used to dislike GK’s gameplay (mainly because there are “better” rescuers and all the GK ive seen kite terribly), maybe i might give him a chance and try to play with him more! Thanks for sharing
@@radioedwaves No problem! But yeah I main him and I'm definitely still working on my kiting skills. But his shovel takes damage for stuff like Naiad's water. So he's amazing for countering Naiad's water during rescues if you wait in your shovel at the chair for a few seconds. She can't get a double hit that way, you pop out of the ground at 0% water damage.
I would argue that Clerk is a "half" counter to Alice if clerk already has recorded journalist is going to struggle if clerk doesn't make her a priority from the start You can also bait good recordings from little Orpheus But depending on the situation it's a very iffy strategy to me
Guard 26 is good vs. Journalist since the bombs cancel Orpheu's rescue, you just have to be good at timing it. Since if you kill lil Orphy Journalist will have to commit to a rescue you can down both at the same time.
Since Cheerleader release. I started to main her a lot and one of the hunters I always try to ban (depending on the map) is either Nightwatch or Opera singer. It really depends on the team comp since I'm a solo ranker and whether I play Cheerleader or not and I want to fully utilize her encourage ability. It's difficult to play against Nightwatch since her dash ability barely does anything and once the debuff sets in, it'll be a free hit. I always have the 36 build if I play as Cheerleader For Journalist, I also started maining her. I use her contain illusions to either body block or pressure the hunter. hunters that can hit survivors without recovery really depends on my reflex action because if they downed the lil' Orphy, I'll get the speed boost. For rescue, I usually use it to rescue before half, bait, or just rescue from afar. Since I run with a 36 build, I use the rescue orphy as soon someone get chaired
I've been playing aeroplanist non-stop, and while I suck at kiting, I noticed he is really good against feaster and can dodge nightmares dash if u are near a two story area or good kiting place. I have 34th badge but I suck at the game, that's how little ppl play aeroplanist 😭
2:40 Little girl and forward (kite) is very lacking against fools gold, and cheerleader would only work in very tight areas, you merchant will be immune but he would be smart and just pick up axe/dash ;-;
Mindgames! Watch tournaments because they help a lot, if you cant find a specific strategy in idv videos you can find them in dbd videos haha, i like to watch both to increase my knowledge
Im pretty sure with fg its the other way around. Cheerleader has a 4 second slowdown which is more than enough time for fg to catch up to her and even land a chip hit on her since (from my own experience) cheer hides afterwards behind pallets and windows for "safety". Then again it depends on how skillfull u are
With lg u can bait their pages and when she's about to drop one, u can throw the pick where she'll slide to, wait for the page to take effect and then zoom in on her
Photographer weakness is Explorer. Argument: explorer have hide skills and when he small he know where hunter and after photo world close the explorer can use his 50% decode paper Clerk weakness is journalist. Argument: lil boy takes up a lot of the clerk’s time and journalist can run away Hermit weakness is doctor. Without argument because it’s obvious Night watch weakness is female dancer. Argument: when Ithaqua attracted by the wind dancer can slide around the music box area, and also music box can slow down
As the number 1 opera singer on na I can garentee u opera singer does not get countered by little girl by the time she farts she’s alr hit it doesn’t matter that I’m out of shadow form it’s too slow
@@jaykay9962she needs just a tiny bit of skill considering how her pages either mess her up or help her because of the delay. but when leeched, yeah shes really easy!
@@radioedwaves not even ann like her pushback is so little unless ur just happen to be stunned right behind a pallet and push back it won’t do anything
Former a badge Alice here !
Alice can struggle with Hermit because little Orpheus actually takes damage and gives it to the whole team and little Orpheus can also be stunned by him (experienced more often than I’d like to admit)
yes, and on the other hand, you can practice to cancel the Orphy just before Hermit attacks
Night Watch kinda counters Journalist as well, since she cannot reliably body-block with Orphy
@@kawakami_idvit feels similar to perfumer in that case, its all about timing and mindgames. Ive had kiting experiences with all sorts of nightwatches, but i seriously heavily prefer journalist over perfumer early game, mainly because of the free presence perfumer gives. Unless if the hunter has all of the presence already, i wouldnt mind watching perfumer kite
Shhh!! Most Hermits don't know this, I don't want the info to spread
Bloody Queen vs Cheerleader is okay, but you must never mirror before she uses her dash
then she will just get pallet spammed😊
Undead is soo damn good against Cheerleader.He can use his kinetic dashes to catch her after her speed boost and also if she will revive a teammate through her "motivate" ability,it actually makes situation for survs worse cus Undead will quickly catch standing up surv again and promote him to the next stage of bleeding
Gravekeeper also can't be pulled back by Night Watch's wind while he's in his shovel, but he can easily catch up with his leap. It's still limited for how long the shovel lasts, but I like using GK for kiting against him because of it. It definitely helps for transitioning to new areas in open space.
That actually sounds so useful! I used to dislike GK’s gameplay (mainly because there are “better” rescuers and all the GK ive seen kite terribly), maybe i might give him a chance and try to play with him more! Thanks for sharing
@@radioedwaves No problem! But yeah I main him and I'm definitely still working on my kiting skills. But his shovel takes damage for stuff like Naiad's water. So he's amazing for countering Naiad's water during rescues if you wait in your shovel at the chair for a few seconds. She can't get a double hit that way, you pop out of the ground at 0% water damage.
I would argue that Clerk is a "half" counter to Alice if clerk already has recorded journalist is going to struggle if clerk doesn't make her a priority from the start
You can also bait good recordings from little Orpheus
But depending on the situation it's a very iffy strategy to me
Guard 26 is good vs. Journalist since the bombs cancel Orpheu's rescue, you just have to be good at timing it. Since if you kill lil Orphy Journalist will have to commit to a rescue you can down both at the same time.
Since Cheerleader release. I started to main her a lot and one of the hunters I always try to ban (depending on the map) is either Nightwatch or Opera singer. It really depends on the team comp since I'm a solo ranker and whether I play Cheerleader or not and I want to fully utilize her encourage ability. It's difficult to play against Nightwatch since her dash ability barely does anything and once the debuff sets in, it'll be a free hit. I always have the 36 build if I play as Cheerleader
For Journalist, I also started maining her. I use her contain illusions to either body block or pressure the hunter. hunters that can hit survivors without recovery really depends on my reflex action because if they downed the lil' Orphy, I'll get the speed boost. For rescue, I usually use it to rescue before half, bait, or just rescue from afar. Since I run with a 36 build, I use the rescue orphy as soon someone get chaired
I've been playing aeroplanist non-stop, and while I suck at kiting, I noticed he is really good against feaster and can dodge nightmares dash if u are near a two story area or good kiting place. I have 34th badge but I suck at the game, that's how little ppl play aeroplanist 😭
2:40 Little girl and forward (kite) is very lacking against fools gold, and cheerleader would only work in very tight areas, you merchant will be immune but he would be smart and just pick up axe/dash ;-;
chasing Lily as Ithaqua isnt that bad tbh. with the dash and tempest i can just...catch up
Depends! Maybe the lily could dash *after* you used your dash/tempest, its a 50/50 mindgame! Nonetheless these stuff are so fun to watch
How to counter every survivor as hunter?
We can't :")
Mindgames! Watch tournaments because they help a lot, if you cant find a specific strategy in idv videos you can find them in dbd videos haha, i like to watch both to increase my knowledge
@@radioedwaves But the question is: how do I mind game survivors having bad ping? 😭 I think my ms is too high to even play hunter but I still try
Im pretty sure with fg its the other way around. Cheerleader has a 4 second slowdown which is more than enough time for fg to catch up to her and even land a chip hit on her since (from my own experience) cheer hides afterwards behind pallets and windows for "safety". Then again it depends on how skillfull u are
Forward as well
With lg u can bait their pages and when she's about to drop one, u can throw the pick where she'll slide to, wait for the page to take effect and then zoom in on her
I would argue that a good doc and an ench are a good counter for fg, since doc can heal chip dmg and ench can get stacks off of chips
Photographer weakness is Explorer.
Argument: explorer have hide skills and when he small he know where hunter and after photo world close the explorer can use his 50% decode paper
Clerk weakness is journalist.
Argument: lil boy takes up a lot of the clerk’s time and journalist can run away
Hermit weakness is doctor.
Without argument because it’s obvious
Night watch weakness is female dancer.
Argument: when Ithaqua attracted by the wind dancer can slide around the music box area, and also music box can slow down
well, Clerk can also record Orphy's actions, so it's pretty risky. I would say Clerk counters Journalist more
As the number 1 opera singer on na I can garentee u opera singer does not get countered by little girl by the time she farts she’s alr hit it doesn’t matter that I’m out of shadow form it’s too slow
Little girl counters them all >:3
And needs no skill at the same time xD. Even Survivors say that
@@jaykay9962 except this guy is like omega coping and she doesn’t counter like any hunter except maybe wax artist ig
@@bananyawnwax and ann! any stunning hunters basically
@@jaykay9962she needs just a tiny bit of skill considering how her pages either mess her up or help her because of the delay. but when leeched, yeah shes really easy!
@@radioedwaves not even ann like her pushback is so little unless ur just happen to be stunned right behind a pallet and push back it won’t do anything
ONLY Antiquarian and Little Girl can counter Opera...? man... that's why i ALWAYS ban Opera.
professor, wildling and merc are also quite good at countering her
Perfumer can also counter Opera. Toy Merchant too for transitioning away from her
gardener to buy time
If ur good kiter u can kite most hunters after it depend ig
@@mlsborderland6647 I consider myself a good kiter since i practice a lot, but everybody has a Hunter that destroy his self confidence against...
NW can literally slow down cheerleader to the point of making her useless😭
I was actually able to get away from night watches ability with cheerleader, so😅
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I was thinking whylawyer isn't in this video😂
Just because Nightwatch,Operasinger and cheerleader are too strong.
And lawyer is strong like them.