The problem is that we need more teachers and less administration. There is way too much money I spend on people who are not doing the teaching . Most classrooms are overcrowded . The no child left behind turned into kicking the can down the road .
There are zero incentives to be a teacher for individuals looking for a WELL compensated living. By this I mean the barrier to become an educator requires multiple degree and the ROI is little to none, saddling the person with loans and little to no recognition or respect for their expertise. Why be an educator when you can go to another field be paid better and have a better quality of life, all for the same investment.
@@jeanhowell9353 left to local authorities you end up with things like creationism and pseudoscience taught in the Bible Belt. That’s keeping us behind.
If you disbanded the Department of Education, nobody, except those who lost their employment there, would notice the difference. Education should be handled at the state level, period.
Have you ever considered that FAFSA is a part of the department of education? That is some people’s only hope for higher education, including trade certification.
@@sailexw6414 Completely false. The ADA is Federal Law and the U.S. Attorney General's Office has a huge Civil Right Division that is more than capable of handling education related ADA complaints. You don't need a separate $68 billion dollar/year agency to enforce laws that an existing agency can enforce. Duplicity is the reason why we have a Federal Government that is exponentially larger than it should be.
@@MeetBailey Federal Student Aide programs were created 2 decades before the Department of Education was created. You don't need a $68 Billion/year bureaucracy in order to distribute federal student aid. Take the student aide money, distribute it to the individual States, and let them distribute it to students. It's long overdue that we move away from a model where Washington bureaucrats control who gets what and how.
In 2016 I asked my fellow college students what was the purpose of various governmental departments. No one could give me a clear answer to what the purpose the federal department of education actually did. If it can be done at the state level, state funded (partially by federal taxes), regulated at the state level .... then it should be. Find solutions as close to the problem as possible.
@@tesladrew2608 Says a DOE employee. What great strides has the DOE made …. in the last 40 years of its existence? The DOE has a budget of approximately $430 BILLION. Annual not four years. My gosh - a lot goes to salaries. Where does the rest go? What great improvements have we experienced?
It's one of very few fields where the number of admin staff has actually increased (the military being another one). The reason that admin staff is a lower percentage everywhere else is because of the ease with which software can replace paper-pushing tasks nowadays. And it's inexplicable that more admin staff are needed in K-12 schooling given that it's done pretty much the same as it was in the 1800s (with a few superficial changes).
Imagine having 50 separate systems, constantly trying to improve, in different ways, and then borrowing from each other through trial and error. Keeping what works, throwing away what doesn’t, and innovating new paths. But instead we have a dogmatic singular system that all must follow. It’s definitely not about amalgamating power and maintaining control. Totally.
Harry Browne and the Libertarian Party have been advocating for the elimination of the Education Department since at least 1996. Let's hope this time it happens.
@@ameliam7898 I wouldn’t hire either Paul to run a lemonade stand. And both are only libertarian when they aren’t voting for Republican policies that are most definitely NOT libertarian.
@@jimburris It wouldn't be that way if bills were pure single issue bills. Sen. Jesse Helms from NC promised to never vote for certain things. The Democrats tried to put something he wouldn't vote for in a bill along with something he ought to vote for so that he could be screamed at no matter which way he voted. He chose to never vote for those bills. You need to learn that the divide is definitely not between parties. It's between conservatives and leftists. Many Republicans are in reality huge leftists and are all the time "reaching across the aisle" to vote for Democrat crap.
I agree with Sen Paul that we need to look at Education with fresh eyes! I’ve been a teacher since 1971 and have seen many changes! Many were for the worse, not for the better!!
We did run the experiment... For our entire existence until 1979. We were #1 in the world. Then we created the department of education, and now we're in the 20's at best, with by far the most spending per student. Well done federal government, a testament to your effectiveness and efficiency...🤨🤔
@@tesladrew2608 Not sure. I assume Congress will have to vote to get rid of it. Maybe there are some things that can be improved before they eliminate it entirely. 🤷♂️
Dept of Education needs to go as well as many other alphabet agencies. No one elected them. Make the legislature do what THEY are elected to do instead of 24/7 fund raising.
The point of the judicial and executive branches is that they’re appointed, not elected. That’s what the founders intended and it’s a necessary system of bureaucracy to have.
@@michaelterrell5061 That's nonsense. There is nothing "necessary" about the Department of Education, or most of the other departments. Actually, most of them are unconstitutional. Read the Constitution, especially the part about the duties of the federal government. 90% or more of what the federal government does is unconstitutional.
I homed schooled my son from 5th grade through 8th grade due to my son getting the flu. His teacher sent school work home and then school contacted me about continuing home schooling my son. I allowed my son to be apart of the decision making whether he wanted to go back to school or be home schooled. My son chose home schooling. I met with the pupil personnel director twice a year about my son's curriculum and how he was doing. Like you said Mr. Paul learning from experts on the Internet is true. My son also learned a lot from the Internet and he built two computers.
Blanket statement not backed up by a shred of evidence. Paul wasn't talking about a teacher in a classroom. He was talking about a teacher who had already made a video that anyone could access.
Our D.O.E. is a joke...and a bad one at that. Our kids are being dumbed down on purpose and yet more money keeps getting funneled to the teachers unions. Shameful 😡.
Love the idea of an amazing explanation of any class material should be viewed by all students in addition to their own teacher. It will likely have a significant impact on students learning.
@tafynotmanzo7354 The important aspect was that a teacher that has been able to present the material in a manner that everyone agrees is the optimal approach the induces students to learn the material. A video of the teacher delivering the lecture would be highly valuable.
@edsusi just another government official thinking they know best when they have never taught teenagers their entire life or ever been in a classroom. So yes a video could be beneficial if you allow teachers to teach it. Not simply play a video as the senator says and magically the students will learn better.
@tafynotmanzo7354 I think you missed the point. The idea was not to just show the video and leave it at that. Wouldn't you agree such videos would be an extra aide to teaching. The teacher could certainly expound on the merits of the video and use it as a starting off point to digest the material. Think of it as just one more tool from the fullntoolbox full of tools you as a teacher use when teaching.
Probably not. My wife was in education and only paid the union to get the legal aid insurance. One mad parent can ruin a teacher's life. She was a librarian and very good at her job. She loved the kids. There was one non-verbal boy in a special class that she was able to get to speak a little. No one else, not even the parents, had made that happen.
I mean, he's not wrong. There's no educational metric that has improved since the DoE became a thing yet we spend billions on it each year. For what exactly? I can understand apprehension to cutting it entirely but ask yourself what they are actually doing that couldn't be handled better on the ground at the state level.
Gen X and those born before them were all educated without influence from a Department of Education (created in 1979, really not funded until 1988, no teeth, so to speak, until about 1992).....schools were locally controlled, curriculum didn't need to change every year......and we had student loans, pell grants, and AP level classes, along with testing like the SAT (which actually meant something back then).
Easier task back then with their smaller lead soaked brains eh? Now you're gonna get the 10 commandments in school and mandatory Bible classes when you 'leave it up to the States'. Great separation of church and state just like the founding fathers intended. Small government my ass, biggest group of hypocrites in the modern era.
I think those of us who have been involved in education and are honest will testify that education has gone down hill since the founding of the Federal Department of Education. Reagan ran on the promise of getting rid of it but he did not deliver. Now is the time to abolish .
I recently read there are over 400 federal agencies with many doing the same thing. All tax paying Americans have known for years our government was bloated and very costly. It’s time we o something about it given our national debt.
If you like what the Federal Government does for education so much, then you are FREE to keep the rules in place at the state level--heck, even create your own state bureaucracy. But what works for you doesn't necessarily work for others.
Bingo. Let the states handle it. If a state in the USA starts being wildly successful with their model, people will move to that state and slowly other states will adopt that states model. It would be almost a competition between states to make the best education system and learn from other states.
federal funding only makes up only ~10% of an average schools budget. and the department of education cannot unilaterally enforce standards, those have to be passed by congress. if your local school sucks, it's mostly the fault of your state and local government
The Function of the Dept of Ed is to ensure that students at Every level is being taught the same basic minimum of knowledge so we all share the same fundamentals of each grade level. The department should only have a Maximum of 600 employees for that.
I have taught and consultant in education at every level for 65 years. Trying to teach all kids Shakespeare or other topics that kids cannot relate to is wasted.
I had a teacher in grade school who was like the Wicked Witch of The West. She made kids cry nearly every day she was so mean. One day the principal came up to me and a few of my friends and asked us into her office. We thought we were in trouble but she just asked to talk about Ms. Tone. The next day we had a new teacher. But… they couldn’t fire her because of tenure. They just shuffled her from school to school. I heard from other teachers the school board had been doing this with her for decades.
All that fading in and out is useless. Too many videos take too long to get the point. Those that wait actually have no life and pretend they don’t mind.
ALL that money wasted since October 1979. Thanks, Jimmy Carter! Paying back the NEA for their support has cost Americans BILLIONS. Dismantle this monolith and send all money back to the states! Let the states decide what the STATES need, not a Federal bureaucracy. Test scores in reading and math have not moved so what is the purpose of the DoEd?
I'm doing a lot of math on Khan Academy trying to move into a data-sci career, and I was just pondering how frustrating it was that this FREE service is better at teaching math than the K-12 schools that I went to and that my daughters now go to. It hasn't changed one bit.
The last year before the Department of Education was the highest testing year, ever. All areas of all standardized testing. Since the DOE took over, the scores have never been that high.
I learned more from brilliant minds on RUclips than 12 years of public school and 4 years in undergrad. Now, my grad and post grad teachers were pretty brilliant.
The Department of Education should have one job: dole out the federal education funding to the states proportionally. That can be done with a few accountants and auditors. We don’t need thousands of bureaucrats trying to find problems where there aren’t any.
Absolutely despicable. Most teachers do not have their feet on the desk. And you can't substitute the moral support a trusted adult gives a vulnerable kid by putting it online! Vilifying teachers, who are the most underappreciated, underpaid working class in the country? Shameful, selfish, cynical point of view from a libertarian rich kid. Appalling.
Teacher here. I did not see any vilification of the teachers. Underappreciated? Definitely by some. Underpaid? Hmmm not sure about that one, the benefits and pension on top of the salary make a combination package hard to beat for most people in the private sector.
Has the quality of education in the US improved since the creation of the Dept of Education (DOE) in 1980? If so, can that improvement be correlated to any action by the DOE? If not, then what is the point of the DOE?
People forget, the US Dept of Education was created as a response to racist schools in the south, & schools that were teaching theology rather than actual needed skills, & the fact that some states couldn't afford to provide a good education. I fear removing the standards the US Dept of Education requires, the oversight it provides, & the funds it gives to ensure whether your child is in Mississippi or Pennsylvania, they're getting a good education that prepares them for the future & lifts them out of poverty.
The subject of education/schools is not mentioned once in the COTUS!!! The federal government has ZERO (not enumerated) LAWFUL AUTHORITY to be involved in our kid's education.
Before the Dept. of Education - the US was No. 1 in the world. After decades of the Dept. of Education, we are now 24th in the world. Get rid of it, and quickly.
I’m retired now but when I taught I knew several different ways to explain complex subjects. The teacher on the TV or Lap Top can’t look at the students and tell when they aren’t getting it. When they need a better explanation or when someone else is taking the test for them. Simply put, we need better teachers! They need better training, evaluation, and compensation!
He's " not eager to run the experiment " of life without the department of education. The department didn't exist prior to 1980. No experiment required. Just compare test scores, graduation rates etc. pre and post 1980
I homeschool my kids and we use a lot of online resourcesItit really helps out. The kids get the education without all of the extra that doesnt need to be in the schools to begin with
As an educator, I absolutely agree: Get the Federal Government out of the business of Education. I differ, however, with Rand concerning online learning. My experience is students require relationships with each other and with the teacher; in other words, young people-all people-thrive in community. The video example to which Rand refers should be seen in the classroom. I would also rid us of Teachers’ Unions because those organizations fight for what is best for the teachers, not the students. Allow School Choice across the USA. ILL’s governor Pritzker is in bed with ALL the unions - a type of “buying votes.” Get Pritzker out. Get the Teacher’s Union out of ILLinois.
Another HUGE problem with our "schools" is the lack of parenting. We've lost generations of parenting examples. Teachers can't teach if they have to act like prison guards, keeping the kids from shanking each other. You can't teach a kid with no discipline, who rarely shows up, and who didn't go to bed until 2am. PARENTS are the key to education working. If you don't have parents doing their job, how can teachers do theirs???? We may have to resort to having required parenting classes to get back to where we should be.
Yes, Rand Paul makes sense, but bear in mind that some subjects, like the Fine Arts (Band, Chorus, and Orchestra) cannot be taught online. My wife was forced to try that during Covid with her middle school bands and despite almost thirty years of experience and having her bands awarded gold medals in the state festival (MICCA) for decades, she could not make it happen. Fine Arts programs like hers lost enrollment as the students' did not continue.
He's not saying that all classes should be online only. He's saying that kids should have access to quality online resources IN ADDITION to their normal school.
@@BlackNemesis13 Yes, I agree with Senator Paul, I was just pointing out to folks a few examples where that may not readily apply with our current technology.
And teachers use stuff like Kahn Academy to substitute doing work in the classroom. And guess what, we all as students enjoyed it. It felt relatable as form of modern learning. So many times we are told we are mathmeticians too, or writers. But how do you divide by zero? "Shut up and sit down!" I want to do my project on 'X sensitive topic mr. Teacher! "You're too inexperienced in the world to fully understand that, do something else"
Take the budget of the department of education, give it directly to our teachers under the condition that they not be a member of any labor union. Each teacher would be getting over a $23,000/yr raise. They would gladly agree to that. The field of teaching would be very competitive because the job would finally pay a wage you can live on and afford rent or a mortgage. That would bring much more talent to the teaching profession in the USA. They could even allocate funding in larger amounts to teachers whose pupils perform better on standardized tests.
Jordan Peterson is starting a college-level educational system based on this concept. While lecturing about physics or literature may be rewarding, the actual benefit to the student varies from teacher to teacher. If the individual teacher can be unburdened by giving the same lectures every semester, they can spend their time focusing on the students' individual needs. We're always hearing teachers complain they don't have enough time to do everything that needs to be done in a day. We all know teachers who would put on a movie or educational film to get caught up. This could be a win-win.
I think it's a great idea to put Rand on this. In previous years, during his spare time, he would always be the one who would derail major legislation from passing . It always seemed like an attention getting ploy of his. He was always the single person to stop a these few major bills.
10 YEARS LATER . . .
It is time.
As a Gen-X'er, it is clear, to me, that we are not better off than in 1980.
Past time !
The same thing is going on and just burns more money and reduces the level of education every year since untill all they teach is DEI.
@@SpartacusColo As an elder Millennial (1984) I agree; this federal overreach and activism needs to go.
YESSSSS!!!!!
Department of Education: AFUERA!!
😂😂👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Let’s hope musk and Vivek follow through
"Even if they resist!"
@@dreddy_g Javier Milei!!
I see what you’re doing here! Well done! And “¡ Viva la libertad, carajo!”
PARA SIEMPRE !!!
SO......here we are in 2024, I don't think the DOE is going to make now.
Is that why he stands by a friend of a pedophile as president. Good job Rand.
Disband the executive branch of govt. felons shouldn’t be running it.
I hope your correct. It needs to go away.
ED. Doe is energy
Fingers crossed
And it’s not just the teachers, it’s school administration too!
The problem is that we need more teachers and less administration. There is way too much money I spend on people who are not doing the teaching . Most classrooms are overcrowded . The no child left behind turned into kicking the can down the road .
There are zero incentives to be a teacher for individuals looking for a WELL compensated living. By this I mean the barrier to become an educator requires multiple degree and the ROI is little to none, saddling the person with loans and little to no recognition or respect for their expertise. Why be an educator when you can go to another field be paid better and have a better quality of life, all for the same investment.
Rand Paul is right. Our country is so diverse education should be as local as possible.
@@jeanhowell9353 left to local authorities you end up with things like creationism and pseudoscience taught in the Bible Belt. That’s keeping us behind.
then you will have idiots ensuring that the next generation are just as stupid as them
If you disbanded the Department of Education, nobody, except those who lost their employment there, would notice the difference. Education should be handled at the state level, period.
Have you ever considered that FAFSA is a part of the department of education? That is some people’s only hope for higher education, including trade certification.
Disabled kids around the country would lose access to their services.. so yeah, people would notice...
@@sailexw6414 Completely false. The ADA is Federal Law and the U.S. Attorney General's Office has a huge Civil Right Division that is more than capable of handling education related ADA complaints. You don't need a separate $68 billion dollar/year agency to enforce laws that an existing agency can enforce. Duplicity is the reason why we have a Federal Government that is exponentially larger than it should be.
@@MeetBailey Federal Student Aide programs were created 2 decades before the Department of Education was created. You don't need a $68 Billion/year bureaucracy in order to distribute federal student aid. Take the student aide money, distribute it to the individual States, and let them distribute it to students. It's long overdue that we move away from a model where Washington bureaucrats control who gets what and how.
And have the south forget about how it's always trying to push this country in the wrong direction? NOPE!
In 2016 I asked my fellow college students what was the purpose of various governmental departments.
No one could give me a clear answer to what the purpose the federal department of education actually did.
If it can be done at the state level, state funded (partially by federal taxes), regulated at the state level .... then it should be.
Find solutions as close to the problem as possible.
I disagree
@@tesladrew2608 Says a DOE employee. What great strides has the DOE made …. in the last 40 years of its existence? The DOE has a budget of approximately $430 BILLION. Annual not four years. My gosh - a lot goes to salaries. Where does the rest go? What great improvements have we experienced?
@@stephen4763 Where is this number coming from 2024 budget was $238 billion... which was down from $637.7 billion in 2022.
They're a racket for the union
Did you look it up? School funding. Setting curriculums. Setting exams. Overseeing school sports. and a lot more.
Get rid of too many admin as well! They are not helpful.
I have a number of public school teacher friends and every single one of them says that the biggest problem in our schools is administration.
It's one of very few fields where the number of admin staff has actually increased (the military being another one). The reason that admin staff is a lower percentage everywhere else is because of the ease with which software can replace paper-pushing tasks nowadays. And it's inexplicable that more admin staff are needed in K-12 schooling given that it's done pretty much the same as it was in the 1800s (with a few superficial changes).
@@akirak1871 DEI positions. Same has happened with HR in most companies.
Imagine having 50 separate systems, constantly trying to improve, in different ways, and then borrowing from each other through trial and error. Keeping what works, throwing away what doesn’t, and innovating new paths. But instead we have a dogmatic singular system that all must follow. It’s definitely not about amalgamating power and maintaining control. Totally.
Except I don't think the federal department of education sets national standards for curricula. I may be wrong about that so someone can correct me...
@bobkins10 Of course you're right.
Funny how every country that excels on the PISA exam has precisely that.
Great post, and the very 50+ experiment methodology I have long suggested.
@@bobkins10 they do. that was the no child left behind policy. when i was a kid they called it the 'Iowas'
Rand Paul ahead of his time as usual. We could save a lot of time & money if we listened to him more often…
Harry Browne and the Libertarian Party have been advocating for the elimination of the Education Department since at least 1996. Let's hope this time it happens.
His father, as well!
@@ameliam7898 I wouldn’t hire either Paul to run a lemonade stand. And both are only libertarian when they aren’t voting for Republican policies that are most definitely NOT libertarian.
@@jimburris It wouldn't be that way if bills were pure single issue bills. Sen. Jesse Helms from NC promised to never vote for certain things. The Democrats tried to put something he wouldn't vote for in a bill along with something he ought to vote for so that he could be screamed at no matter which way he voted. He chose to never vote for those bills. You need to learn that the divide is definitely not between parties. It's between conservatives and leftists. Many Republicans are in reality huge leftists and are all the time "reaching across the aisle" to vote for Democrat crap.
Not according to President Trump
I agree with Sen Paul that we need to look at Education with fresh eyes! I’ve been a teacher since 1971 and have seen many changes! Many were for the worse, not for the better!!
I have a few teachers in my family and they want the DOE shut down even more than I do.
There's a solid chance no one in your family even know what the DoE does.
@@ColbyFreemanWhat does it do?
You could buy beach front property in Kansas too...
Why?
@@ColbyFreemanyou're saying that teachers are not aware of how the DoE affects their work?
We did run the experiment... For our entire existence until 1979. We were #1 in the world. Then we created the department of education, and now we're in the 20's at best, with by far the most spending per student. Well done federal government, a testament to your effectiveness and efficiency...🤨🤔
You are making things up.
Rand is gonna get his wish 😎
If the wish is not granted the Republican party will be non existent in four years because of no votes
@@trev5.566 I have a cool science channel if interested.
🙏🏽
Why is trump nominating a secretary of doe if he's getting rid of it
@@tesladrew2608 Not sure.
I assume Congress will have to vote to get rid of it.
Maybe there are some things that can be improved before they eliminate it entirely.
🤷♂️
"I'm not eager to run the experiment."
Trump Voters: Let's GO!
The DOE was the experiment, and the results weren't great.
Run it!
Go where? Back in time
uh huh, the damn experiment has already been run and it failed! It's time to correct that mistake
@@RainyDaySocialClub 2018 here we come ... but even better. (By the way, go away TROLL)
Dept of Education needs to go as well as many other alphabet agencies. No one elected them. Make the legislature do what THEY are elected to do instead of 24/7 fund raising.
Gotta overturn Citizens United if you wantt them to be able to fund raise less. Thats a start.
The point of the judicial and executive branches is that they’re appointed, not elected. That’s what the founders intended and it’s a necessary system of bureaucracy to have.
@@michaelterrell5061Jesus someone with some common sense thank you
@@michaelterrell5061 That's nonsense. There is nothing "necessary" about the Department of Education, or most of the other departments. Actually, most of them are unconstitutional. Read the Constitution, especially the part about the duties of the federal government. 90% or more of what the federal government does is unconstitutional.
No one elected your electrician or plumber either.
he been right for 10 years!!! broadcast the best teachers, perfect the presentation of common knowledge.
Perfect for presentation, not for learning.
He’s not right
i agree with Senator Rand Paul. Schools are not doing a good job. We need change.
I homed schooled my son from 5th grade through 8th grade due to my son getting the flu. His teacher sent school work home and then school contacted me about continuing home schooling my son. I allowed my son to be apart of the decision making whether he wanted to go back to school or be home schooled. My son chose home schooling. I met with the pupil personnel director twice a year about my son's curriculum and how he was doing. Like you said Mr. Paul learning from experts on the Internet is true. My son also learned a lot from the Internet and he built two computers.
Anyone can build a computer. The hard part is fgetting your hands into tight spots lol
An extraordinary teacher in a class room is not an extraordinary teacher for an nationwide audience.
Blanket statement not backed up by a shred of evidence. Paul wasn't talking about a teacher in a classroom. He was talking about a teacher who had already made a video that anyone could access.
Our D.O.E. is a joke...and a bad one at that. Our kids are being dumbed down on purpose and yet more money keeps getting funneled to the teachers unions. Shameful 😡.
And yet the blue states are the most educated. Get a gripe
Worse - they are being indoctrinated...
only in some places
@@frankmiller7721 why did my comment get deleted? Lol.
I wrote: yea and thats why blue states have the highest education rates and best colleges?
@@JimBobethey create the standard. Same way the government investigates itself and finds itself innocent.
Love the idea of an amazing explanation of any class material should be viewed by all students in addition to their own teacher. It will likely have a significant impact on students learning.
Yes a us senator is going to watch intently but we're teaching teenagers so no I don't think that's going to work.
@tafynotmanzo7354 The important aspect was that a teacher that has been able to present the material in a manner that everyone agrees is the optimal approach the induces students to learn the material. A video of the teacher delivering the lecture would be highly valuable.
@edsusi just another government official thinking they know best when they have never taught teenagers their entire life or ever been in a classroom. So yes a video could be beneficial if you allow teachers to teach it. Not simply play a video as the senator says and magically the students will learn better.
@tafynotmanzo7354 I think you missed the point. The idea was not to just show the video and leave it at that. Wouldn't you agree such videos would be an extra aide to teaching. The teacher could certainly expound on the merits of the video and use it as a starting off point to digest the material. Think of it as just one more tool from the fullntoolbox full of tools you as a teacher use when teaching.
@edsusi ,Tafynotmanzo is right. A simple video is reeediculous. RUclips: Hold my beer. 😂😂😂
Teachers union is a major hindrance to education.
Can the States go up against them, or are those States already in bed with them?
Yes I agree. They are not concerned about Kids only pay
Not as big of a hindrance as police unions
Probably not. My wife was in education and only paid the union to get the legal aid insurance. One mad parent can ruin a teacher's life. She was a librarian and very good at her job. She loved the kids. There was one non-verbal boy in a special class that she was able to get to speak a little. No one else, not even the parents, had made that happen.
@@donaldhadley249 People go into education for the kids, not the pay, as the pay sucks compared to almost anything else they could be doing.
I mean, he's not wrong. There's no educational metric that has improved since the DoE became a thing yet we spend billions on it each year. For what exactly? I can understand apprehension to cutting it entirely but ask yourself what they are actually doing that couldn't be handled better on the ground at the state level.
According to my Google search, the Dept of Education has an annual budget of $68 billion.
Absolutely useless!!!
@@lexingtonconcord8751the staffing is only 1 billion
@@lexingtonconcord8751its not you’re just foolish
Gen X and those born before them were all educated without influence from a Department of Education (created in 1979, really not funded until 1988, no teeth, so to speak, until about 1992).....schools were locally controlled, curriculum didn't need to change every year......and we had student loans, pell grants, and AP level classes, along with testing like the SAT (which actually meant something back then).
And surprise surprise none of those people live in reality. They are deluded individuals
Easier task back then with their smaller lead soaked brains eh? Now you're gonna get the 10 commandments in school and mandatory Bible classes when you 'leave it up to the States'. Great separation of church and state just like the founding fathers intended. Small government my ass, biggest group of hypocrites in the modern era.
Return all power to the states except those specifically granted to the Feds in the Constitution.
And repeal the Patriot Act in its entirety.
It is funny that you mention Kyan Academy. We have been using it for years to teach our grand kids.
The teachers on Khan Academy are pretty good.
I think those of us who have been involved in education and are honest will testify that education has gone down hill since the founding of the Federal Department of Education. Reagan ran on the promise of getting rid of it but he did not deliver. Now is the time to abolish .
He was going to get rid of a lot of things, but "they" shot him.
Trump just said he will end it.
I agree wholeheartedly with this brilliant man, Senator Rand Paul.
The 10th Amendment explicitly forbids the federal government fron being involved in education.
Yup. Liberals don’t give a fuck about the constitution. The 10th amendment is the most abused of all of them
Cite a case.
@@l.w.paradis2108it’s more implicit than explicit, but the point is valid.
@cyndijohnson5473 Cite a case, any case. A dissent if you want, or dicta. I'll keep an open mind in the meantime.
The case is it not being a listed power of the federal government. Thus it falls to the states and local government.
I recently read there are over 400 federal agencies with many doing the same thing. All tax paying Americans have known for years our government was bloated and very costly. It’s time we o something about it given our national debt.
we tried that during covid and it was horrible unfortunately. You need to bring kids in person
It's good idea to close down education department: save money and students with their parents will be better in the long run.
Not all teachers can teach.
The states should be in charge of their education system,america is at the bottom of the list on education, the status quo is not workimg
If you like what the Federal Government does for education so much, then you are FREE to keep the rules in place at the state level--heck, even create your own state bureaucracy. But what works for you doesn't necessarily work for others.
Bingo. Let the states handle it. If a state in the USA starts being wildly successful with their model, people will move to that state and slowly other states will adopt that states model. It would be almost a competition between states to make the best education system and learn from other states.
@@ScentlessSunthe states already do handle it. You are misinformed
federal funding only makes up only ~10% of an average schools budget. and the department of education cannot unilaterally enforce standards, those have to be passed by congress. if your local school sucks, it's mostly the fault of your state and local government
As usual Rand Paul is far ahead.
The Function of the Dept of Ed is to ensure that students at Every level is being taught the same basic minimum of knowledge so we all share the same fundamentals of each grade level. The department should only have a Maximum of 600 employees for that.
I have taught and consultant in education at every level for 65 years. Trying to teach all kids Shakespeare or other topics that kids cannot relate to is wasted.
Brilliant idea. Could lead to a certain criteria of vetting teachers similar to professional athletes.
But noone wants to teach anymore cause kids are horrendous… there’s no one to vet …
I had a teacher in grade school who was like the Wicked Witch of The West. She made kids cry nearly every day she was so mean.
One day the principal came up to me and a few of my friends and asked us into her office. We thought we were in trouble but she just asked to talk about Ms. Tone. The next day we had a new teacher.
But… they couldn’t fire her because of tenure. They just shuffled her from school to school. I heard from other teachers the school board had been doing this with her for decades.
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+Isa Life what did you do with your extra 16 seconds? I painted a picture :)
All that fading in and out is useless. Too many videos take too long to get the point. Those that wait actually have no life and pretend they don’t mind.
Thanks for saving us 15 sec
@@nathantaylormckenzie If you think those 16 seconds were valuable, there’s a female President I’d like you to vote for.
ALL that money wasted since October 1979. Thanks, Jimmy Carter! Paying back the NEA for their support has cost Americans BILLIONS. Dismantle this monolith and send all money back to the states! Let the states decide what the STATES need, not a Federal bureaucracy. Test scores in reading and math have not moved so what is the purpose of the DoEd?
Its purpose is theft from taxpayers, like most nonsense we tolerate...
Sen. Paul has been great. Hopefully with Trump's new administration we finally see the DOE eliminated
I'm doing a lot of math on Khan Academy trying to move into a data-sci career, and I was just pondering how frustrating it was that this FREE service is better at teaching math than the K-12 schools that I went to and that my daughters now go to. It hasn't changed one bit.
The last year before the Department of Education was the highest testing year, ever. All areas of all standardized testing. Since the DOE took over, the scores have never been that high.
I think certain politicans should be paid more than some others.
I learned more from brilliant minds on RUclips than 12 years of public school and 4 years in undergrad. Now, my grad and post grad teachers were pretty brilliant.
Get rid of it.
Get rid of lobbyists and there goes the education unions!
National education: too big to succeed.
A decade ago!? Our education system is so far behind where it should be.
We'll get there Rand.
The Department of Education should have one job: dole out the federal education funding to the states proportionally. That can be done with a few accountants and auditors. We don’t need thousands of bureaucrats trying to find problems where there aren’t any.
Absolutely despicable. Most teachers do not have their feet on the desk. And you can't substitute the moral support a trusted adult gives a vulnerable kid by putting it online! Vilifying teachers, who are the most underappreciated, underpaid working class in the country? Shameful, selfish, cynical point of view from a libertarian rich kid. Appalling.
Teacher here. I did not see any vilification of the teachers. Underappreciated? Definitely by some. Underpaid? Hmmm not sure about that one, the benefits and pension on top of the salary make a combination package hard to beat for most people in the private sector.
Local control!
Has the quality of education in the US improved since the creation of the Dept of Education (DOE) in 1980? If so, can that improvement be correlated to any action by the DOE? If not, then what is the point of the DOE?
Thanks for sharing.
SHUT DOWN the DOE. NOW!
People forget, the US Dept of Education was created as a response to racist schools in the south, & schools that were teaching theology rather than actual needed skills, & the fact that some states couldn't afford to provide a good education. I fear removing the standards the US Dept of Education requires, the oversight it provides, & the funds it gives to ensure whether your child is in Mississippi or Pennsylvania, they're getting a good education that prepares them for the future & lifts them out of poverty.
This idea is brilliant and ahead of its time.
Sanity is finally speaking
There are probably 20 good Senators in Congress. Why not just let those 20 run everything so our country is better off.
He is , as Always Right.!!!
thats a great idea. i had teachers that should've been online with more audience. first good teachers to do it will give themselves a raise.
Get as many kids as we can out of government-run education. It has been a bloated failure for decades.
How many lives were wasted over the last ten years ? The urban school are awful.
Kids have gotten dumber and more indoctrinated since this video came out. As a former teacher can wait to see DOE gone
The subject of education/schools is not mentioned once in the COTUS!!! The federal government has ZERO (not enumerated) LAWFUL AUTHORITY to be involved in our kid's education.
I agree completely. Everything the US does is exported (for better or worse) so please do this now. It's a great idea.
Love Rand Paul.
I only trust politicians that can keep their oath of office like Rand Paul . He's has been scoring 100% on the Constitution. Good job Dr. Paul.
I guess dreams do come true. 😂 2024 🇺🇸
Funny he’s for getting rid of departments but not congressional stock trading unless there are loopholes.
Before the Dept. of Education - the US was No. 1 in the world.
After decades of the Dept. of Education, we are now 24th in the world.
Get rid of it, and quickly.
Total dunce.
People also underestimate the importance of traditional school in terms of social development.
I’m retired now but when I taught I knew several different ways to explain complex subjects. The teacher on the TV or Lap Top can’t look at the students and tell when they aren’t getting it. When they need a better explanation or when someone else is taking the test for them. Simply put, we need better teachers! They need better training, evaluation, and compensation!
We've been running your experiment for decades. One could teach kids better with a piece of chalk and a chalkboard.
Absolutely right. Everything is video now
He's " not eager to run the experiment " of life without the department of education. The department didn't exist prior to 1980. No experiment required. Just compare test scores, graduation rates etc. pre and post 1980
Someone needed to fire the attorney that advised his client to sign that contract.
I homeschool my kids and we use a lot of online resourcesItit really helps out. The kids get the education without all of the extra that doesnt need to be in the schools to begin with
Your state first
Please let my state be first. Illinois public schools are failing miserably. 😏
As an educator, I absolutely agree: Get the Federal Government out of the business of Education. I differ, however, with Rand concerning online learning. My experience is students require relationships with each other and with the teacher; in other words, young people-all people-thrive in community. The video example to which Rand refers should be seen in the classroom. I would also rid us of Teachers’ Unions because those organizations fight for what is best for the teachers, not the students. Allow School Choice across the USA. ILL’s governor Pritzker is in bed with ALL the unions - a type of “buying votes.” Get Pritzker out. Get the Teacher’s Union out of ILLinois.
Another HUGE problem with our "schools" is the lack of parenting. We've lost generations of parenting examples. Teachers can't teach if they have to act like prison guards, keeping the kids from shanking each other. You can't teach a kid with no discipline, who rarely shows up, and who didn't go to bed until 2am. PARENTS are the key to education working. If you don't have parents doing their job, how can teachers do theirs???? We may have to resort to having required parenting classes to get back to where we should be.
Part of education is to ask why we fragment life into separate departments.
Online lecture/class only works for motivated learners. I could see that as an in class supplement, but doesn’t replace in person
Let teachers teach. Too much interference, and too much non-education materials being mandated. We need to go back to the basics.
Yes, Rand Paul makes sense, but bear in mind that some subjects, like the Fine Arts (Band, Chorus, and Orchestra) cannot be taught online.
My wife was forced to try that during Covid with her middle school bands and despite almost thirty years of experience and having her bands awarded gold medals in the state festival (MICCA) for decades, she could not make it happen.
Fine Arts programs like hers lost enrollment as the students' did not continue.
He's not saying that all classes should be online only. He's saying that kids should have access to quality online resources IN ADDITION to their normal school.
@@BlackNemesis13 Yes, I agree with Senator Paul, I was just pointing out to folks a few examples where that may not readily apply with our current technology.
Special Ed is where the federal dollars tend to be spent . . .
And teachers use stuff like Kahn Academy to substitute doing work in the classroom. And guess what, we all as students enjoyed it. It felt relatable as form of modern learning.
So many times we are told we are mathmeticians too, or writers.
But how do you divide by zero? "Shut up and sit down!"
I want to do my project on 'X sensitive topic mr. Teacher! "You're too inexperienced in the world to fully understand that, do something else"
Being a doctor himself his prescription is bound to cure the malice.
Then how do we balance the power of the state level teacher unions?
Take the budget of the department of education, give it directly to our teachers under the condition that they not be a member of any labor union. Each teacher would be getting over a $23,000/yr raise. They would gladly agree to that. The field of teaching would be very competitive because the job would finally pay a wage you can live on and afford rent or a mortgage. That would bring much more talent to the teaching profession in the USA. They could even allocate funding in larger amounts to teachers whose pupils perform better on standardized tests.
Jordan Peterson is starting a college-level educational system based on this concept. While lecturing about physics or literature may be rewarding, the actual benefit to the student varies from teacher to teacher. If the individual teacher can be unburdened by giving the same lectures every semester, they can spend their time focusing on the students' individual needs.
We're always hearing teachers complain they don't have enough time to do everything that needs to be done in a day. We all know teachers who would put on a movie or educational film to get caught up. This could be a win-win.
I think it's a great idea to put Rand on this. In previous years, during his spare time, he would always be the one who would derail major legislation from passing . It always seemed like an attention getting ploy of his. He was always the single person to stop a these few major bills.
Techers shouldn’t test and grade students. They should be just mentors and coaches
He was always right.
There are too many children that cannot get an education without public physical schools. Many have limited access to internet.