The author of the tool made a post with some helpful extra tips! Check it out here: www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/zl18nn/how_to_get_the_most_out_of_pobs_new_find_dps/ They note that it doesn't currently work for weapons as the API cannot weight weapon bases properly. Also some builds like DoT/Ailment and minions might have some difficulties. Mostly, if PoB can show you total DPS properly then it should work.
Hey, Ziggy, much as I appreciate this tool, there was a PSA post, I beleive from GGG earlier that sharing your POESESSID could lead to others having access to your account. This feels pretty relevant, and should probably be appended somewhere. I hope there will be a change made to be able to use the tool without opening yourself up to such a vulnerability.
Second the notion that you should perhaps put up a 2 minute video explaining the POESESSID and if it's safe to use with Path of Building Community Fork.
Lootfilters don't actually need to be tuned to your needs. You're likely better off having them show you what sells well in the current market (hence why neversink has his filters updated every 4 hours). It is usually more efficient to sell what you get and buy what you need instead of trying to find/craft your next upgrade yourself.
I don't think you can overstate just how strong this tool is. Picked up about 60% more dps without losing defenses all for less time and currency than it would have taken me to find 20% more dps. Unbelievable.
If you picked up 60% more dps that just means you have no idea how to scale your builds damage, the tool is incredibly innacurate as if you are for instance playing a poison build it will find items that scale your hit damage rather than poison damage
@@EjDantes Lol what can they do to address this, only thing they could do is just make it more inconvenient to get you character set up in pob or just gut the tradesite filter options. All of which would be probably hated by the majority of the community.
If you're missing POESESSIONID like I was, then while you have PoE trade open hit F12 to open up the console for your browser, then switch to the Storage tab, select Cookies and your POESESSIONID should now be visible. Simply copy and paste it from there to POB.
Thanks for the vid highlighting the feature Ziggy, it's great to have people help spread the awareness of this new feature. Wanted to help provide some more information to those who wish to use it 1. Dolmur, Nostrademous and Dullson are the three people that have done all the coding to create this feature. So thank them if you see them around on Reddit, Twitch chat or the comments here on YT 2. The feature is still in development and will have a bunch more features added as we continue to update PoB. We've already added a max price box to the item finder search (This will be in the next update coming out tomorrow) 3. The issues with it selecting the wrong league and the UI being ontop of each other will also be solved in the next update 4. The issues people have had where they are getting POESESSID errors are not always actually to do with their POESESSID but sometimes the skill they are using or some other bugs. We're working on fixing these + issues people have had trying to use the feature on DoT builds 5. We definitely plan to allow people to allow people to set the stats they wish to have the weighted search work on. So all the different DPS metrics (Average Hit/DoT/Ignite/Bleed etc.). This will also include defensive stats at some point (eHP, Phys Max hit, Ele max hit etc.) 6. You can set the sort by box in the top right to DPS and look at the searched items in PoB will be auto sorted for you. Hovering over the items will show you the full stat differences so you can easily see at a glance how much DPS it will provide you (should work better after tomorrows update when it chooses the correct league for you) 7. You can ctrl+click on the trade link to open it in your web browser. No need to copy and paste the link 8. Currently when you have a weighted search or any search with 10000+ results (like you had with your jewel search), the website is only able to do a sort on the first 10000 results. So you can potentially miss out on the best DPS options cause they might show up at the 11000 result on the trade site. An easy way to fix this is to increase the minimum weight at the very top of the weighted search so that less that 10000 results show up.
This is really a minor nitpick but when you go to read how much that ring changed your DPS at ~8:30, you were reading the wrong panel. The 11.7% was for if you equipped it in slot 1 and replaced the ring that was already there. Placing it in slot 2 is actually a 15.9% DPS increase over empty and a 15.4% increase over your old ring. Also, you can check how it compares to both rings when you first paste the item into POB before even adding it to your build.
Ah whoops thanks for the correction! Yeah right side is ring 1 and below is ring 2 for those who are still wondering. It's a good idea to make sure you are comparing the right ring slot! :D
Path of Building has already had such a MASSIVE impact on how we build characters in PoE, and here we go again into a new era - algorithmically perfect item shopping... I'm honestly not sure how to feel but it sure is powerful and it sure is handy. Soon maybe I can just click a button and PoB will give me a step by step for an AI-generated perfect build.
I don't think I ever enjoyed searching for items on trade. Its a hassle but you can get good at it, but its not why I enjoy the game. And I'm not sad to see it leave
@@a0000a1234 If the hassle of trade was what was keeping you from the endgame you wouldn't have lasted much longer anyway. All trade does is expedite the length of the gearing process and thus shorten the endgame drastically.
Oh this is sweet. It was also be cool if PoB could "craft" the best rare for the build. From a final item I could recreate the actual crafting method needed to make it, but if PoB could theorize the BiS rare for each slot that would be a game changer.
Seems like a great way to fix attributes and/or resists without losing damage too. Even if it just means browsing a much shorter list of good candidates I'll take it.
The immediate improvement to that feature I see is the possibility to cull the mods under a certain weight threshold for better filtering/searching. Thanks a lot for showing that to us !
Very well done video, i was as baffled as you where when i discovered that feature and that's part of the reason i HAD to tell you about this. It's just SOOO next level ! :D Will be interesting to see how GGG reacts to this.
Thx!With only 5 Chaos investment and 5 min of time, my Dps goes from 7000 fire damage to 15500 flat fire damage on one of my main skill gem.And i have slot to bench craft QoL resist or Life.
For anyone having a problem getting this to work for minion builds there is a workaround. Select each of your minion skills that you want to contribute to the search and click on the 'Include in Full DPS' button at the end of the skill. Once you have done this for one skill at least, the tool now works for minion builds as well.
Oh man, this is really an awesome extension. But I can very well imagine that GGG won't like it at all if we can search for items faster and better. Feel the weight of the search exile!
insane tool but doesn't appear to be working for DoT currently, either they haven't implemented DoT modifers or it is sorting by hit DPS instead of Combined or Total DPS. Was excited to use this to search for jewels for EK ignite, endgame build can use like 5+ jewels, even more if I find insane enough ones. They're not too difficult to search for but I'd love to see how normal jewels are weighted compared to abyss ones, as that comparison is stupidly difficult to make by hand, especially when you need to compare that +level of gems through empower makes flat phys from jewels less impactful but stacking DoT multi makes extra sources of DoT multi also less powerful. So there might be a breakpoint where abyss jewels become better at one stage of the build, but are then surprassed by cobalt jewels with a max level empower.
I'm playing ignite (not EK though) and 99.999% of the time the highest full DPS is also the highest ignite DPS. Otherwise that would mean your hit scaling is still significantly higher than your ignite scaling, which doesn't sound right. Or I'm missing something
I am playing chaos dot...theres absolutely no way the shit thats being presented to me is ideal for my build. I like the idea here...but I apparently can't use this function..
A heads up for folks interested in using this feature. It is definitely beta and DOES NOT do well with chaos dot skills focusing on dot damage. Playing a caustic arrow/toxic rain build and it was focusing on increasing my hit dps rather than dot.
This tool is a game changer. Especially for a casual player. I don't have time to research upgrades for hours at a time. I only have a few hours to play here and there.
I can't actually play the game much, and I am studying computerscience and working in IT so whenever I'm watching progress bars I have time to set stuff like this up. There are some important things to note that are pitfalls: It does not factor in diminishing returns. It also doesn't perfectly factor in things that scale in a complicated way that is non linear, meaning stuff like dot multi from crits with added crit multi (especially! when you don't have max accuracy), also I regularly manage to breakt the "full dps" calculation in PoB wich would cause this to collapse completely obviously. So ideally what you would do is eliminate as many variables that make things wonky as you possibly can. That means for example preteding to be Accuracy capped even when you are not, and manually adding accuracy to make sure you are capped. If you are starting out crit dot, that would also probably mean you should manage your crit chance closely to make sure you are not overshooting or undershooting. And those are just very basic things, it get's a lot more complicated once you have things like battlemage and dot and damge conversions and crit combined in a build. The more simple your main damage mechanic is the better this will work, but the more complex your damage sources are the more you'd want a tool like this, at the same time you'll have to fine tune and manage it carefully to make sure it's prioritizing the mechanics that you think it should be going for to scale the best way. Maximizing dps on a one slot basis is always going to have inherent limitations, especially on a character that isn't fully set up yet. It'll be a godsent once you "think" you have basicly minmaxed everything, because that is where it can then really show it's potential and dig up some stuff that we might have completely overlooked. I'd assume. SO very exciting, but not the end of manual build making and character progression. :) I love it. (ofc I do I spend more time in pob than I spend ingame and I make the weirdest fing builds. xD)
Obviously fine tuning, really knowing your build and what it needs will still matter, but the tool itself automates weight calculations which no human would actually do
What I mean is, more people will experience the uber endgame content due to this feature, thus more high end items enter the market, thus more people get stronger characters. Rinse and repeat.
@@notskrub7013 I guess they want to gatekeep those things...? Lol. And league ends after 3 months. Power creep really isn't a big thing when the league resets every 3 months.
I am always getting the error "POE SESS ID invalid" even though I just relogged on the poe site and extracted the session id a minute ago. Also started it in admin mode without changes, anyone else having the same problem and knows a solution?
Excellent news! when PoE plays itself for me too, then I can play it again
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I hope it help someone! I solved my problems doing this steps (I also playing summoner and had invalid before that): 1- logout poe website 2- right click and remove cookies from pathofexile in developer tools mode (F12) 3- close navigator and re-open/login again 4- catch new session ID 5- In POB I create a new profile in blank and save it... After that I import my build and mark some options in Configuration, save again, put new session ID and voilá!
On multiple browsers, I've logged out, cleared the cookie (like you describe), logged back in, found new session ID which was clearly new string, used that in admin-launched PoB and still get invalid session ID
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@@germinvermin Sad mate, it fix to my friend and me :(
I definitely always looked for a way to copy items from POB into POE trade search, even just for predefined items, if you are following a build guide for example. But this is something else. Not sure how to feel about this, truly. This looks a little bit too good, and will bring the player power level higher for sure, which is definitely fantastic for the average player. I hope GGG is not going to balance the game around this xD Trading in POE was always something players don't like, with this players will trade more, which is definitely good :) Way to solve trading without ggg xD or at least half of the problems :)
I like the idea of just KNOWING "stat weights" for my build. Understanding that I get more out of raw STR than Fire damage to attacks and stuff like that is very helpful. If build makers were to literally list the top 10 stats for DPS that would be all I would need. Maybe give me a pre-canned search for each slot with those stats/slot and I'd be golden. I can add resistances/life ( or it automatically does this ) and i'd be set.
Bro we used to search the forums for hours looking at peoples forum shops and searching for one specific globe upgrade for days at a time… this is just insane
Took a bit to get used to this system, but managed to buy 13% more DPS with 22 chaos, while also learning that Gem level aren't as good as I expected on my gem! Good stuff!
This is totally game changing. My search returned a belt that had Malevolence effect AND Skill effect duration worth 3c for my Toxic Rain Pathfinder and I just laughed. I totally forgot about corrupted implicits like that.
Thats putting the no-braining of class building to a whole 'nother level.. I approve becasue I lack class building brain to begin with. (now lets wait for PoB to play our character for us next lmao)
I can just imagine the PoB team trying to get in touch with GGG before putting this live. Just to warn them that PoEtrade was about to see an uptick in traffic.
Thanks for the amazing video!! I'm not much in the mood to play this league tbh but maybe I try only due to this, I see how it can be fun to just press some buttons to upgrade the build instead of having to break your mind to figure it out
This is pretty nice, but still a little wonky. Even though I had the default softcore league selected, the best item it suggested was from the hardcore league, and the second best was from ruthless. I didn't even catch it until I went to paste the whisper into chat and noticed the message before I sent it. Also, the 3 SC options seem are meant to separate league and ruthless league, but as I said previously, they don't really seem to affect the actual league the results come from, and they all just say 'SC' anyway. I never figured out why there's 3 'SC' options though. If this gets worked on a little bit more, I could see this being a great solution for ekeing a little more DPS out of your build without having to struggle with the very non-intuitive trade tool. It found me some very large DPS upgrade possibilities in the
I did figure it out (the *third* SC option is for SC Sanctum trade), so at least the filters work, even if the descriptions themselves are lacking. I was able to pick up a weapon for 10c that managed to bump my DPS by quite a bit, so the actual functionality is sound - it just needs some UI work.
great timing, I've been wondering what to look for in an amulet to improve my glacial cascade Inquisitor. +1 cold and crit multi are the only mods I could think of.
While it's great that POB does this, it's damning how much a third party piece of software improves the experience. (This isn't a knock on POB, but rather on POE's lackluster UI/QOL.)
Running an Absolution Minion build and sadly this isn't ready to handle that. Cool feature and hope to see it have some more knobs to turn to have it prioritize minion dps, ignore resistance, or similar things.
I wonder if this will improve the value of doing ID'd chaos recipe. Chucking anything with a couple damage mods into a bulk sale tab would be a great way to earn some largely passive income. A tool like this makes actually finding those cheap jank items really easy, so it could incentivize people to both sell and buy them.
poe really needs a new dev team that's more fun oriented exactly because of that. game's practically unplayable for the average person without third party tools. don't really know of any other game where that's the case...
As a ssf player, I like the idea of pob helping guiding upgrades on gear. It is always a pain for me to figure out what is better, a flat added dmg or a % increase. Would like that they made part of that algorithm availiable outside of trade, for me to plan some upgrades and crafts in advance
This is an incredible feat of fan made software for a free game. If this exists then soon after I will be able to examine at item, compare it to the builds currently being searched for define an accurate price so i can sell it to someone using the other half of the system. But it makes me wonder if this is the intended way that GGG wanted us to play their game? We have come so far but are we going in the direction of fun? I'm not 100% sure anymore.
This scares me that we'll end up in a WoW/DBM sort of situation where they balance the game around the existence of the tool. They've already done this with PoB itself. GGG has also been showing a bit of a non-cooperative side to their development where they just do seemingly random things with a weak reason but you look deeper and realize that it was a change for poe2, but they think that if they're honest about the reason people will begin to give up on poe1 entirely, or some other hare-brained rationale.
Yep. They need to stop that functionality from working otherwise they will have to balance around it and people will just complain more. They already want to be in red maps day 1, so anything that doesn't make them feel immediately powerful is bad. Ironcic thing is that the only reason they enjoy it is because normally it's not as easy as other games.
@@EjDantes I don't think they should necessarily stop it, this is a pve game. I just don't really trust GGG to keep their priorities straight, eg make sure they don't fuck the fun out of the game like archnem did.
Imagine if this functionality existed ingame for comparing new items for your current build... Although that kinda turns it a bit into diablo 3, where you got summed up offensive/damage stat based on all those things
They need to take this to the next level and directly implement it into the game. When you press ALT over an item, it should show you the "sum" value along with the other information. 🤞
This is very very cool - one question: does it consider the weighted impact of unique mods, or is this only ever going to suggest buying rares and uniques with craftable mods? E.g. If a unique offers me a build defining keystone as a stat, is that gonna come up in the calculation?
Yeah, it's definitely not going to work perfectly for everything (or at all for some things). Like it can't really calculate the extra value of another projectile in my build for example. And some builds just don't quite work with DPS calculations.
I feel like you should almost by default add a term to search for an open suffix or prefix as well because minmaxed searches like this will always fill out every slot if possible because more mods = more power even if only 1% more while a benchcraft could add 5 or 10% more.
The interesting part that people miss is that you can alter the search and then paste the new URL back into PoB to have it actually sort by whatever stat you want (now that you can sort by stats other than full dps) So you can, for example, force a specific anoint on an amulet, and then have PoB only analyze amulets with that anoint
GGG made a statement that giving someone your POESESSID is at the same level of giving someone your PW soooooo might not be the best idea to use it currently until they found another way? it might get you banned if you are unlucky
Yes, I think this tool is exactly why they posted that reminder. Other tools that used to use POESSESSID now instead send you to login to your POE account. I'd wait until this tool transitions to that as well before trying it.
![[3.25] Low Investment Farm - 1 Scarab is ALL you need | 6 DIV/HR (Easy to sell!!!)](/img/1.gif)
The author of the tool made a post with some helpful extra tips! Check it out here: www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/zl18nn/how_to_get_the_most_out_of_pobs_new_find_dps/
They note that it doesn't currently work for weapons as the API cannot weight weapon bases properly. Also some builds like DoT/Ailment and minions might have some difficulties. Mostly, if PoB can show you total DPS properly then it should work.
Any idea how to make it work with private leagues?
Hey, Ziggy, much as I appreciate this tool, there was a PSA post, I beleive from GGG earlier that sharing your POESESSID could lead to others having access to your account. This feels pretty relevant, and should probably be appended somewhere.
I hope there will be a change made to be able to use the tool without opening yourself up to such a vulnerability.
Second the notion that you should perhaps put up a 2 minute video explaining the POESESSID and if it's safe to use with Path of Building Community Fork.
well its too hard to get my poe sessid whatever it is for even beigng able to use that tool seems nice tho
Can't wait for PoB to start writing lootfilters on the fly based on what's good for your build at the time
Lootfilters don't actually need to be tuned to your needs. You're likely better off having them show you what sells well in the current market (hence why neversink has his filters updated every 4 hours). It is usually more efficient to sell what you get and buy what you need instead of trying to find/craft your next upgrade yourself.
Can't wait for PoB to play the game for me and i can opt in and out when i feel like it. Skip the bad times and only come for the good.
That would be dope. There are existing things that try to do something like this, but not well
@@Zevrael SSF
@@hanlosingit Restricting yourself in SSF to exactly one build makes it terrible to play the game.
I don't think you can overstate just how strong this tool is. Picked up about 60% more dps without losing defenses all for less time and currency than it would have taken me to find 20% more dps. Unbelievable.
how did you go about making sure you don't lose defenses, did you add +HP/res to the searches? Or just lucked out?
Which is why GGG will probably have to address it.
If you picked up 60% more dps that just means you have no idea how to scale your builds damage, the tool is incredibly innacurate as if you are for instance playing a poison build it will find items that scale your hit damage rather than poison damage
@@EjDantes Lol what can they do to address this, only thing they could do is just make it more inconvenient to get you character set up in pob or just gut the tradesite filter options. All of which would be probably hated by the majority of the community.
tool is alright, gave me like 10% more DPS while severely sacrificing defenses. but I will say, it was very cheap
I've been using PoE Item Tester macro my whole PoE career and seeing that it's now baseline in PoB warms my heart
Do you want to go to a play tonight ?
@@randomdudehereandthere2445 would anyone like some soup?
If you're missing POESESSIONID like I was, then while you have PoE trade open hit F12 to open up the console for your browser, then switch to the Storage tab, select Cookies and your POESESSIONID should now be visible. Simply copy and paste it from there to POB.
Im using brave and im not seeing this option, any ideas?
Poesessid still invalid even after reset. Thoughts?
Having the same issue saying POESESSID is Invalid. Have relogged on the website, ingame, and restarted PoB
Invalid ID for me too :/
@@MirraZK did you import your build to a brand new file? I had to completely make a new pob for it to work.
Thanks for the vid highlighting the feature Ziggy, it's great to have people help spread the awareness of this new feature. Wanted to help provide some more information to those who wish to use it
1. Dolmur, Nostrademous and Dullson are the three people that have done all the coding to create this feature. So thank them if you see them around on Reddit, Twitch chat or the comments here on YT
2. The feature is still in development and will have a bunch more features added as we continue to update PoB. We've already added a max price box to the item finder search (This will be in the next update coming out tomorrow)
3. The issues with it selecting the wrong league and the UI being ontop of each other will also be solved in the next update
4. The issues people have had where they are getting POESESSID errors are not always actually to do with their POESESSID but sometimes the skill they are using or some other bugs. We're working on fixing these + issues people have had trying to use the feature on DoT builds
5. We definitely plan to allow people to allow people to set the stats they wish to have the weighted search work on. So all the different DPS metrics (Average Hit/DoT/Ignite/Bleed etc.). This will also include defensive stats at some point (eHP, Phys Max hit, Ele max hit etc.)
6. You can set the sort by box in the top right to DPS and look at the searched items in PoB will be auto sorted for you. Hovering over the items will show you the full stat differences so you can easily see at a glance how much DPS it will provide you (should work better after tomorrows update when it chooses the correct league for you)
7. You can ctrl+click on the trade link to open it in your web browser. No need to copy and paste the link
8. Currently when you have a weighted search or any search with 10000+ results (like you had with your jewel search), the website is only able to do a sort on the first 10000 results. So you can potentially miss out on the best DPS options cause they might show up at the 11000 result on the trade site. An easy way to fix this is to increase the minimum weight at the very top of the weighted search so that less that 10000 results show up.
absolutely brilliant feature :D
would love to see POB somehow get more love from GGG in POE2
How will you respond when GGG tries to shut this down ?
do you have any plans to move to oauth instead of requiring us to share our POESESSID as a response to POE's official stance posted yesterday?
Do you realise your tool doesn't calculate poison dps correctly, it calculates on hit damage rather than poison btw
Anything that makes trade less miserable is an amazing change in the game. Thanks for showing this Ziggy!
This is really a minor nitpick but when you go to read how much that ring changed your DPS at ~8:30, you were reading the wrong panel. The 11.7% was for if you equipped it in slot 1 and replaced the ring that was already there. Placing it in slot 2 is actually a 15.9% DPS increase over empty and a 15.4% increase over your old ring.
Also, you can check how it compares to both rings when you first paste the item into POB before even adding it to your build.
Ah whoops thanks for the correction! Yeah right side is ring 1 and below is ring 2 for those who are still wondering. It's a good idea to make sure you are comparing the right ring slot! :D
Path of Building has already had such a MASSIVE impact on how we build characters in PoE, and here we go again into a new era - algorithmically perfect item shopping... I'm honestly not sure how to feel but it sure is powerful and it sure is handy. Soon maybe I can just click a button and PoB will give me a step by step for an AI-generated perfect build.
i like it cause the hassle of shopping stopped me from getting really into the actual endgame of poe. might actually return to try this out.
I don't think I ever enjoyed searching for items on trade.
Its a hassle but you can get good at it, but its not why I enjoy the game. And I'm not sad to see it leave
POB shopping app 🛍️😍
Can’t wait for PoB to be available on console. I’m sure it’ll be amazing
@@a0000a1234 If the hassle of trade was what was keeping you from the endgame you wouldn't have lasted much longer anyway. All trade does is expedite the length of the gearing process and thus shorten the endgame drastically.
This is absolutely phenomenal. I play SSF and this will help me identify what to look for while mapping and crafting.
This is an amazing update. Can't wait to try it. Jewels we're always such a pain
Copying an item from trade was an awesome tip. I didn't even see the link until you pointed it out. Thank you!
Oh this is sweet. It was also be cool if PoB could "craft" the best rare for the build. From a final item I could recreate the actual crafting method needed to make it, but if PoB could theorize the BiS rare for each slot that would be a game changer.
Thank you for making a video on this. I saw the button in the new update and wasn't sure what it did. Awesome!
thanks Ziggy! i played around for 5min with this...improved my build massively for no currency whatsoever. damn
upvoted, amazing update this makes life so much easier to gear out your character, crazy insane
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@@christophergrundner soon D4 God - HE IS READY alkSuper
Seems like a great way to fix attributes and/or resists without losing damage too. Even if it just means browsing a much shorter list of good candidates I'll take it.
The immediate improvement to that feature I see is the possibility to cull the mods under a certain weight threshold for better filtering/searching. Thanks a lot for showing that to us !
Very well done video, i was as baffled as you where when i discovered that feature and that's part of the reason i HAD to tell you about this. It's just SOOO next level ! :D
Will be interesting to see how GGG reacts to this.
ggg: you can only search for 3 mods at most, no advanced conditions etc basically gut how complex query can be
Good asf, i used and my build increase alot the DPS, thank you so much!
I think as a guy who is more New to poe its a really nice help i find this game really complex
Thx!With only 5 Chaos investment and 5 min of time, my Dps goes from 7000 fire damage to 15500 flat fire damage on one of my main skill gem.And i have slot to bench craft QoL resist or Life.
just got this recommended and holy jesus am i glad it did... thank you so much for spreading the information about this absoutely insane feature!
For anyone having a problem getting this to work for minion builds there is a workaround. Select each of your minion skills that you want to contribute to the search and click on the 'Include in Full DPS' button at the end of the skill. Once you have done this for one skill at least, the tool now works for minion builds as well.
i am new to PoE just 2weeks old, can you please teach me how I can do this for my necromancer srs poison ?
Replaced my helmet, gloves, and a ring after this and got about a 70% DPS boost (and about 150 life). This is amazing!
Oh man, this is really an awesome extension. But I can very well imagine that GGG won't like it at all if we can search for items faster and better.
Feel the weight of the search exile!
Incredible! Worked a treat for finding an instant dps increase for my totem build (weapon slot in my case). Thanks for sharing this info!
GGG:
Oh no, we need to do something about this "Shady Tool" xD
This is fricking insane. Thank you for making a video about it.
insane tool but doesn't appear to be working for DoT currently, either they haven't implemented DoT modifers or it is sorting by hit DPS instead of Combined or Total DPS. Was excited to use this to search for jewels for EK ignite, endgame build can use like 5+ jewels, even more if I find insane enough ones. They're not too difficult to search for but I'd love to see how normal jewels are weighted compared to abyss ones, as that comparison is stupidly difficult to make by hand, especially when you need to compare that +level of gems through empower makes flat phys from jewels less impactful but stacking DoT multi makes extra sources of DoT multi also less powerful. So there might be a breakpoint where abyss jewels become better at one stage of the build, but are then surprassed by cobalt jewels with a max level empower.
Yes, cannot get it to work properly for EK ignite build :( let me know if you find a solution
yea im doing an EA build at the moment and tried it on a quiver, doesn't work :(
Same here
I'm playing ignite (not EK though) and 99.999% of the time the highest full DPS is also the highest ignite DPS. Otherwise that would mean your hit scaling is still significantly higher than your ignite scaling, which doesn't sound right. Or I'm missing something
I am playing chaos dot...theres absolutely no way the shit thats being presented to me is ideal for my build. I like the idea here...but I apparently can't use this function..
Pob about to be more advanced then the game itself
A heads up for folks interested in using this feature. It is definitely beta and DOES NOT do well with chaos dot skills focusing on dot damage. Playing a caustic arrow/toxic rain build and it was focusing on increasing my hit dps rather than dot.
The power and quality of life and time saved by this tool cannot be overstated - whoever creater this, take my greatest gratitude and utmost respect.
OMG I love it. 5 Minutes in and already learning some interesting things about my build.
This tool is a game changer. Especially for a casual player. I don't have time to research upgrades for hours at a time. I only have a few hours to play here and there.
I can't actually play the game much, and I am studying computerscience and working in IT so whenever I'm watching progress bars I have time to set stuff like this up. There are some important things to note that are pitfalls:
It does not factor in diminishing returns. It also doesn't perfectly factor in things that scale in a complicated way that is non linear, meaning stuff like dot multi from crits with added crit multi (especially! when you don't have max accuracy), also I regularly manage to breakt the "full dps" calculation in PoB wich would cause this to collapse completely obviously. So ideally what you would do is eliminate as many variables that make things wonky as you possibly can.
That means for example preteding to be Accuracy capped even when you are not, and manually adding accuracy to make sure you are capped. If you are starting out crit dot, that would also probably mean you should manage your crit chance closely to make sure you are not overshooting or undershooting. And those are just very basic things, it get's a lot more complicated once you have things like battlemage and dot and damge conversions and crit combined in a build.
The more simple your main damage mechanic is the better this will work, but the more complex your damage sources are the more you'd want a tool like this, at the same time you'll have to fine tune and manage it carefully to make sure it's prioritizing the mechanics that you think it should be going for to scale the best way. Maximizing dps on a one slot basis is always going to have inherent limitations, especially on a character that isn't fully set up yet.
It'll be a godsent once you "think" you have basicly minmaxed everything, because that is where it can then really show it's potential and dig up some stuff that we might have completely overlooked. I'd assume. SO very exciting, but not the end of manual build making and character progression. :) I love it. (ofc I do I spend more time in pob than I spend ingame and I make the weirdest fing builds. xD)
Obviously fine tuning, really knowing your build and what it needs will still matter, but the tool itself automates weight calculations which no human would actually do
I imagine this function adding massively to the power creep
Nah, this isn't adding anything. It's just making what's out there easier to find
They already balance around this. If anything it allows more people to get the intended experience.
What I mean is, more people will experience the uber endgame content due to this feature, thus more high end items enter the market, thus more people get stronger characters. Rinse and repeat.
@@Icenforce Are you saying that that's a bad thing?
@@notskrub7013 I guess they want to gatekeep those things...? Lol. And league ends after 3 months. Power creep really isn't a big thing when the league resets every 3 months.
thanks for this video, I noticed that feature in pob and was very confused when I tried using it
I am always getting the error "POE SESS ID invalid" even though I just relogged on the poe site and extracted the session id a minute ago. Also started it in admin mode without changes, anyone else having the same problem and knows a solution?
We're officially living in the future. What a time to be alive.
Excellent news! when PoE plays itself for me too, then I can play it again
I hope it help someone! I solved my problems doing this steps (I also playing summoner and had invalid before that):
1- logout poe website
2- right click and remove cookies from pathofexile in developer tools mode (F12)
3- close navigator and re-open/login again
4- catch new session ID
5- In POB I create a new profile in blank and save it... After that I import my build and mark some options in Configuration, save again, put new session ID and voilá!
On multiple browsers, I've logged out, cleared the cookie (like you describe), logged back in, found new session ID which was clearly new string, used that in admin-launched PoB and still get invalid session ID
@@germinvermin Sad mate, it fix to my friend and me :(
This feature makes me want to get back into the game lol!! Thanks for sharing
Love ya Ziggy, thanks for the new video
Amazing update, amazing guide. Thanks pob and thanks Ziggyd !
just.. thank you; short, simple, effective :)
I definitely always looked for a way to copy items from POB into POE trade search, even just for predefined items, if you are following a build guide for example. But this is something else.
Not sure how to feel about this, truly. This looks a little bit too good, and will bring the player power level higher for sure, which is definitely fantastic for the average player. I hope GGG is not going to balance the game around this xD
Trading in POE was always something players don't like, with this players will trade more, which is definitely good :) Way to solve trading without ggg xD or at least half of the problems :)
Can't wait for PoB to start making coffee for us! It'll be awesome!
I like the idea of just KNOWING "stat weights" for my build. Understanding that I get more out of raw STR than Fire damage to attacks and stuff like that is very helpful.
If build makers were to literally list the top 10 stats for DPS that would be all I would need.
Maybe give me a pre-canned search for each slot with those stats/slot and I'd be golden. I can add resistances/life ( or it automatically does this ) and i'd be set.
yes, we need a filter for our filter
You should be able to look at the endgame build in path of building and create the links as shown here.
Bro we used to search the forums for hours looking at peoples forum shops and searching for one specific globe upgrade for days at a time… this is just insane
That will make those not-quite-beginning-of-the-league upgrades so much more pleasant...
This is awesome! I didn't know about this, thank you.
it works, i hope it gets better.
For some reason it thinks CI builds dont need ES but do need minion based buffs
I need it to search my own tabs, that would be a great feature.
Thank you for showing this, Ziggy!
Took a bit to get used to this system, but managed to buy 13% more DPS with 22 chaos, while also learning that Gem level aren't as good as I expected on my gem!
Good stuff!
This is totally game changing. My search returned a belt that had Malevolence effect AND Skill effect duration worth 3c for my Toxic Rain Pathfinder and I just laughed. I totally forgot about corrupted implicits like that.
Thats putting the no-braining of class building to a whole 'nother level.. I approve becasue I lack class building brain to begin with.
(now lets wait for PoB to play our character for us next lmao)
Oh god I was waiting for this to be implemented for years now, guess I'm going back to PoE this league!
I can just imagine the PoB team trying to get in touch with GGG before putting this live. Just to warn them that PoEtrade was about to see an uptick in traffic.
Thanks for the amazing video!! I'm not much in the mood to play this league tbh but maybe I try only due to this, I see how it can be fun to just press some buttons to upgrade the build instead of having to break your mind to figure it out
Now I just need it to actually purchase the items for me and deliver it to my stash tab while I sleep
the dream
This is pretty nice, but still a little wonky. Even though I had the default softcore league selected, the best item it suggested was from the hardcore league, and the second best was from ruthless. I didn't even catch it until I went to paste the whisper into chat and noticed the message before I sent it. Also, the 3 SC options seem are meant to separate league and ruthless league, but as I said previously, they don't really seem to affect the actual league the results come from, and they all just say 'SC' anyway. I never figured out why there's 3 'SC' options though.
If this gets worked on a little bit more, I could see this being a great solution for ekeing a little more DPS out of your build without having to struggle with the very non-intuitive trade tool. It found me some very large DPS upgrade possibilities in the
I did figure it out (the *third* SC option is for SC Sanctum trade), so at least the filters work, even if the descriptions themselves are lacking. I was able to pick up a weapon for 10c that managed to bump my DPS by quite a bit, so the actual functionality is sound - it just needs some UI work.
great timing, I've been wondering what to look for in an amulet to improve my glacial cascade Inquisitor.
+1 cold and crit multi are the only mods I could think of.
While it's great that POB does this, it's damning how much a third party piece of software improves the experience. (This isn't a knock on POB, but rather on POE's lackluster UI/QOL.)
This is actually insane, and havent seen other people talk about it yet
Running an Absolution Minion build and sadly this isn't ready to handle that. Cool feature and hope to see it have some more knobs to turn to have it prioritize minion dps, ignore resistance, or similar things.
I wonder if this will improve the value of doing ID'd chaos recipe. Chucking anything with a couple damage mods into a bulk sale tab would be a great way to earn some largely passive income. A tool like this makes actually finding those cheap jank items really easy, so it could incentivize people to both sell and buy them.
I really want this to work with Timeless jewels. It can already tell me which one's the best but manually putting in every number is maddening
Challenge: Poe, but you're only allowed to buy the top suggestion by PoB for each of your slots, only one purchase per level. No other items allowed.
can't wait for this to become a speedrun category xD
What a great plugin to help if you’re willing to put a little time in to mess around with it for sure!
The devs keep making the game harder, and POB keeps making the game easier.
poe really needs a new dev team that's more fun oriented exactly because of that. game's practically unplayable for the average person without third party tools. don't really know of any other game where that's the case...
As a ssf player, I like the idea of pob helping guiding upgrades on gear. It is always a pain for me to figure out what is better, a flat added dmg or a % increase. Would like that they made part of that algorithm availiable outside of trade, for me to plan some upgrades and crafts in advance
So just look at trade weights, that's your ssf most influential upgrades...Just instead of buying those things, you will craft them in SSF.
We've come a long way from searching the forums and people's item shops. Then hoping they're online.
I loved this video so much that I subscribed to you just because of this video (Sorry for not subscribing earlier ^^)
This just for jewels is already worth it. Like you said you can get a good jewel search down to 90% but it takes a decent bit of time.
This is an incredible feat of fan made software for a free game. If this exists then soon after I will be able to examine at item, compare it to the builds currently being searched for define an accurate price so i can sell it to someone using the other half of the system. But it makes me wonder if this is the intended way that GGG wanted us to play their game? We have come so far but are we going in the direction of fun? I'm not 100% sure anymore.
Ziggy! I love you bro! For a noob as me, this tools makes my game a much more fun!
This is even better in era when divines are reserved for best items only, so that when you do yur mid game upgrades, rolls actually matter
Is there a way for this to calculate for poison/dot dps? It seems that when i do this it only calculates for hit dps
This scares me that we'll end up in a WoW/DBM sort of situation where they balance the game around the existence of the tool. They've already done this with PoB itself. GGG has also been showing a bit of a non-cooperative side to their development where they just do seemingly random things with a weak reason but you look deeper and realize that it was a change for poe2, but they think that if they're honest about the reason people will begin to give up on poe1 entirely, or some other hare-brained rationale.
Yep.
They need to stop that functionality from working otherwise they will have to balance around it and people will just complain more. They already want to be in red maps day 1, so anything that doesn't make them feel immediately powerful is bad.
Ironcic thing is that the only reason they enjoy it is because normally it's not as easy as other games.
@@EjDantes I don't think they should necessarily stop it, this is a pve game. I just don't really trust GGG to keep their priorities straight, eg make sure they don't fuck the fun out of the game like archnem did.
Thats a crazy good feature if it works properly
Imagine if this functionality existed ingame for comparing new items for your current build... Although that kinda turns it a bit into diablo 3, where you got summed up offensive/damage stat based on all those things
This will help in SSF as well. Get to see what I want on the gear I craft.
Very clever and time saving solution from PoB developers.
Amazing Ziggy, thx for this!
They need to take this to the next level and directly implement it into the game. When you press ALT over an item, it should show you the "sum" value along with the other information. 🤞
Thankyou PoB team!
This is very very cool - one question: does it consider the weighted impact of unique mods, or is this only ever going to suggest buying rares and uniques with craftable mods? E.g. If a unique offers me a build defining keystone as a stat, is that gonna come up in the calculation?
Wish I could use it for my build but PoB currently doesn't calculate decay dps correctly.
Yeah, it's definitely not going to work perfectly for everything (or at all for some things). Like it can't really calculate the extra value of another projectile in my build for example. And some builds just don't quite work with DPS calculations.
@@ZiggyDGaming It's at least a nice addition for most build though for sure even with some builds not being able to really make use of it.
Hmmmm going to have to check.this out in the morning.
I feel like you should almost by default add a term to search for an open suffix or prefix as well because minmaxed searches like this will always fill out every slot if possible because more mods = more power even if only 1% more while a benchcraft could add 5 or 10% more.
I play ssf but HOLY... It's amazing. It's still so helpful.
I needed this. Thanks.
The interesting part that people miss is that you can alter the search and then paste the new URL back into PoB to have it actually sort by whatever stat you want (now that you can sort by stats other than full dps)
So you can, for example, force a specific anoint on an amulet, and then have PoB only analyze amulets with that anoint
Maybe this could still be good for SSF to get affix suggestions
i like it. it means you spend less time messing around with 3rd party programs and more time playing the game.
Technology, what a time to be alive.
İM KEEP GETTİNG ERROR '' how im gonna find '' POESESSID '' ? it want me to write it down manually but how
GGG made a statement that giving someone your POESESSID is at the same level of giving someone your PW soooooo might not be the best idea to use it currently until they found another way? it might get you banned if you are unlucky
Yes, I think this tool is exactly why they posted that reminder. Other tools that used to use POESSESSID now instead send you to login to your POE account. I'd wait until this tool transitions to that as well before trying it.