Vocal Coach Reacts to Jay Fung x MC - How Many Times｜國外聲樂老師點評「反對無效」
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Jay fung 才是今次點評的重點 , 他的R&B 轉音是香港的瑰寶
True !!!!!!
這集真的獲益良多 原來不同語言唱出來分別會這麼大 JKAI 的示範也太到位了吧🙌
個老師之前已經好中意方大同，加陣又好中意Jay Fung😁
Jay Fung值得更紅❤
這也是為甚麼在這麽多人很仍執着咬字的香港的樂壇為何so boring
終於有人注意到jay fung 超感動🥲
還有想介紹Rubberband的6號！！！ 是非常有特色的音色😆
rubberband有好多好好聽的歌（但是自己歌的live真的很參差🤣
不介意聽音源的話，經典的《阿波羅》和近期的《過度關注組》是我的最愛❤️
但是以live來說，6號在music panda翻唱的《Lets Us Go Then You and I》和《小傳奇》絕對是他最棒的live之二，希望可以更多人欣賞到不同的香港音樂😌🫶🏽
rubberband!!!❤
ruclips.net/video/Ov8NZbQ9nbg/видео.htmlsi=27mTm6xrtli2HbKU
«Let Us Go Then You and I»
Rubberband 近年的 live 也很好呀！
Rubber band!!
Rubberband 6號！！！！！
推薦張敬軒《隱形遊樂場》 《俏郎君》，讓老師體會一下咬字清晰的粵語歌
也推薦MC的《老派約會之必要》，編曲比較特別，融合了中式音調
Jay Fung嘅R&B 已經入曬血! 佢個種groove 同soulfulness 真係好正，🥰🔥🔥好欣賞佢銳意將R&B曲風帶入廣東歌，近年好出色嘅作品有 「報復式浪漫」及近期嘅「All that I want 」都好正好高質😍
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因你幸福，所以幸福 上癮了
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The Single《DWBF》馮允謙 JayFung Ft.C AllStar
Jay Fung does deserve more attention, he is probably the best male vocalist right now active in the Hong Kong music scene.
One of the best, some just you don’t know
Darn right
強烈要求拍一集張敬軒的 酷愛！❤❤❤
2014春秋勁呀 換衫
2010版故園花茶 高音
blessing 又勁呀
拍幾集都唔夠啦
@@張劍謙2014酷愛！！！
14酷愛
18火雞酷愛
20盛樂酷愛
23倫敦酷愛
太多了😂
@@張劍謙
❤️❤️❤️
酷愛就算啦...超多炒車版嘅live...呢首我認為真係唔適合live，我鐘意張敬軒都係咁話。反而佢最近翻唱嘅「夜機」仲正啲。
hins cheung 張敬軒永遠不會令你失望
得一句歌词
Yes he is a good singer
張敬軒只有唱一句 超失望😂
下次做張敬軒 @ClubZeroMedia
@@ClubZeroMedia 請做 張敬軒的 春秋！
一直很喜歡馮允謙 尤其是他的 "我好想你"!! 真好聽!
Jay Fung 的R&B歌曲和唱腔也是非常棒的
拜托🥺能不能多一點張敬軒！！！專門做一集張敬軒好嗎😭 2014演唱會版 酷愛真係超級超級值得老師聽 保證一定很受大家歡迎😢
佢已經沒有問題 唔需要特別評 軒公唱法老式
馮允謙值得更多關注！愛死他的R&B
Jay deserves all the recognitions
Here's some info for you guys - Jay and MC were both born in HK. The difference is Jay moved to Canada at age 1 and grew up there. He moved back to HK at age 23 to participate in a TV singing competition and came second. He was then signed to a record label and started his singing career in HK. It has taken HK audience a long time to accept him because his Cantonese was not very good back then, and he had a more "western vibe".
MC on the other hand moved to Canada to study high school. When completed, he returned to HK, worked odd jobs and did busking for a few years. He then participated in a TV talent show and came second. A year after that he was signed to Warner HK and the rest is history. Many HK audience love his for his voice, tone and "bad boy" image/vibe. He is able to speak Cantonese like a local and speak (and sing) very good English.
Here's the Cantonese version《反對無效》sung by Jay Fung and Jace Chan: ruclips.net/video/TBToV3NQx4g/видео.html
很喜歡Jay Fung的「給缺席的人唱首歌」
歌詞很有意思，對於作為歌手的你們一定很有共鳴。
btw，說到一直紅不起的香港歌手，個人也大推gin lee~
Jay has best voice and he is very good attitude on music❤ love him always and support him❤
True !! He’s such a humble (always) and lovable man🤩😍
睇咗幾集老師係有料到 語言不通都冇影響分析 中間研究語言對唱歌嘅影響好有趣 原來mc唱英文歌冇咁smooth係因為h音 technique同stability jayfung完勝 但同意mc hit到本地mainstream多啲係因為唱法融合中西 stand out又仍然有熟悉感 聽佢地唱廣東歌差別就好明顯 雖然jayfung咬字發音都好標準 但一聽就知係ABC 以廣東歌嚟講係會有少少違和感 但放返係英文歌入面就完全fit哂 佢兩個自身成長背景正正就係導致哩個分別嘅原因
係 佢好用心聽 包括唔識既語言佢都聽得出歌手本質. 係中肯評價唔同歌手(當然有啲佢偏好既高手). 同時間有強分析同技巧解釋. 同埋佢好有熱誠去做呢件事！
應該係Jay Fung係1歲半就過左去加拿大 MC係有起香港讀小學
等咗好耐張軒😍😍
Thanks for doing a critique of HK singers!!! Love how professional this channel is and now they're critiquing my fav singers!
終於! 😍😍 希望有更多軒公+MC+JF的點評!
居然延後了 🥲🥲
軒公軒公軒公!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MCMCMCMCMC, please explain more for these two singer because they are the most popular singer in HongKong now!
Jay lived in Canada most of his time before he starts his singing career in Hong Kong.
Yeah you can totally tell by how smooth he sings English 😄
@@ClubZeroMediaAnd Jay doesn’t know Chinese that well🤣 he reads Cantonese romanization to sing hahaha
I think his mother tongue is English and his Cantonese up till now is still carrying cute accent like a foreigner
@@zzzs123 Canadian Chinese tings
Apart from Talking to the Moon, MC has covered Afterglow, Cries in a Distance, I’m not the only one etc and all of them are great! He moved to Canada from Hong Kong after primary school so we shouldn’t be surprised that his English is not as native as Jay Fung. Btw, I love Jay Fung too.
hins cheung is my fav singer! he will never let you be disappointed. one of the legend singer in HK
Jay Fung's voice is amazing ❤
張敬軒！❤❤
Jay Fung and Souljase are probably the best male r&b singers in HK
Brilliant discussion and music study of how languages change the agility of music! Thanks a lot for your comments🎉
這期影片真有趣！喜歡看你們討論不同語言在音樂上的融合、衝突。身為杰倫粉也很開心不懂中文的橘老師可以馬上get到他的特別之處😆
如果有機會也很希望可以看到你們對Yellow黃宣的reaction，我覺得他的唱法非常偏西方，一開始不習慣但愈聽愈上癮，對我來說很有趣，好奇凱哥、橘老師、Flo小姐的看法❤
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最推第三首 獨上C樓
求多一點Jay Fung❤
I love Jay so much❤
喜歡看你們的求真精神與理性討論～
I like Jay Fung much more, highly talented artist with a beautiful voice!
點評下側田，香港樂壇的滄海遺珠
Today it’s my first time watching this channel and Rozette did a very good job at commenting and the bloke talking to Rozette sings 給我一首歌的時間 in different ways and made things really clear!!! Well done!
Hins Cheung is one of the most well-known and popular singers in HK, and more popular than ever now (safe to say he is the king of cantopop after eason)😆 please do an episode on him, I am sure you will be surprised by the things he is capable of, his live performances are so stable and moving. Think you can already spend a whole episode just to talk about 酷愛, coz he always has different arrangements when performing this in his concerts, each so unique and stunning in its own way🤩 and of course many of his songs are such a hit as well😝
現役香港歌手中Jay Fung唱英文歌/R&B絕對係no.1，但唱廣東歌時MC把聲就感染力no.1。
部分同意 雖然我都是MC粉絲 但論感染力 離陳奕迅還有不少距離
@@chirmain9341唔好意思，我已經忘記Eason係現役廣東歌歌手😂，不過我覺得巔峯時期Jacky Chan 感染力比Eason更強。
@@lt5205 jacky chan ,成龍?
成龍唱歌確實係好有感染力嘅
@@bondsonmic9062😂sorry 要更正，係Jacky Cheung 張學友至啱。
嚇到我彈起。。。
Jacky Chan都入選。。。。差D噴飯。
Please review more on Jay Fung, especially his live performance.he's a gem, ❤❤
MC ❤❤
Thanks for this channel, now I realised why MC got a big boom to the Canton Pop industry and why Jay Fung not hitting the mainstream at first (I just thought his old agency didn't write him a right song)
MC talking to the moon~高推
張敬軒 let's go
希望點評jay fung 因愛之罪名、思念即地獄 🙏🙏🙏
Omg吸血鬼三部曲真係正到癡線😍😍😍
思念即地獄一定要有
Please Please Please do more reviews on 張敬軒!!!
As one of his fans and the 90s generation,
I can say he is the most skillful singer and songwriter in this generation in Hong Kong!!
He is such a wholehearted person that almost every Hong Kong people admire!!
I really didn't hear any criticism of him before besides some gossip.
ruclips.net/video/joAeFGLzQZE/видео.html
Interesting episode. Really enjoyed your discussion of how lyrics are handled in western versus Chinese music.
廣東歌要唱到老師想追求既英文歌順滑感的確係有限制！廣東話係用9聲分割開不同字不同意思，因此哪怕你只是扭或拖一個音都有機會變成另一字…因此要平衡到順滑與語言的準確度，個人覺得MC算係做得好好！😊
若將入聲分拆，廣東話只有 6 聲
而音樂上，入聲係閉氣，等同強制休止符
幾乎等同每個入聲字的音都加休止符
@@itsamyau對呀！所以好的填詞人會將入聲字放在空拍前，用來增加節拍感同加強語氣！ 當然呢個做法放在RnB都可以😂 「明明極黑_的我～」 MC《世一》
我覺得是填詞的問題, 跟R&B不合, SoulJase的R&B就很smooth沒問題
想要多些張敬軒！！！！🤩🤩🤩🤩
老師可以聽一下張敬軒 2010版故園花茶
2017 手望
2014春秋
酩酊天使
2014酷愛
blessing
缺
不吐不快
隱形遊樂場等等等等
懇求有張敬軒系列，呢一個代表香港樂壇歌手，用真誠不抹黑真實評語❤
正，我覺得老師會好鍾意Jay fung因為佢個西式風格
不只西式風格原因，他vocal 好好。 live 好正
@@charlam3455 佢參加超級巨聲嗰陣已經好鍾意佢。
I love R&B. No wonder I love Hins Cheung, Jay Fung, MC Cheung songs so much.
Jay Fung is so underrated!
Jay Fung is underrated… luckily he’s gained more popularity in recent years…
This video is a really good analysis how the pronunciation in different languages would greatly change the style of singing. I enjoyed this video.
And I think Hins was exaggerating at his concert, probably because he was singing with the original signer MC. He is less “choppy” and more passionate and smooth when he sings his own songs
Exactly the comment below I made two weeks ago. I knew rozette would like Jay fung the most.
今集的內容非常之正❤
要在同一首歌裡聽到咬字不清楚和字正腔圓,不得不推一下千里之外
Good analyzing on the difference between cantonese vs mandarin vs English pronunciation. I learned something new today.
#MC 只在加拿大升讀幾年中學…不是CBC! 如果有看過他參選比賽作品 MC真是實力新勢代🤩💓
damn so happy for my idol jay
等左咁耐 終於見到軒公 但係得一句囉 希望可以見多少少軒公🥹🥹
Jay Fung is so good in R&B. Please watch “Music Panda Special - Jay Fung & Gin Lee”. Both of them present high quality live show.
Yup agreed !! Love both of them ! They are talented and super humble! ❤
Jay Fung is the best
Finally seeing my love in your video!!! #Hins Please do more reactions to Hins' songs, especially the concert versions!
Jay Chou最為人詬病是沒有歌詞就不知他在唱甚麼，所以smooth和咬字之間要取得平衡。
張敬軒❤
看了这么多期节目，总算有关于轩仔的内容了，希望未来有更多，我最爱的，心目中最会唱歌的歌手❤
Good pick and good work on doing the research and terminologies for professional discussion
終於有❤
Jay Fung is my favorite male singer from Hong Kong at the moment 😊
杰凱大哥，可以考慮做張敬軒系列嗎😊？
真的😢
+1 超中意佢
❤MC
I wanted to say THIS VIDEO really recall me how much I love music at the very beginning ! Yes its not music video nor a singing contest but exactly this kind of video where the coach interpret in a professional way dissect into music singing skill Labrador and whatsoever , this is excited me and remind me I love singing I love music in the young days. OMG I’m gonna cry.😂 this is my passion
You know this is very professional if you are really into music / singing , this is informative this is interesting oh this can be learning like this or like that , this is knowledge. Interpreting from HK singer (I’m Malaysian) , Jay Fung , to MC , to Jay Chou , I know all of them . Talking from a westernise or we called them ABC , Jay Fung who I know him started in Chinese Idol , to MC Cheung who I knew him lately a new generation talented young guy who make it to his first official big concert by only within his first two year since debuted, a gen Z talented singer who intrigued me lately , to the Jay Chou , I meant my generation , talking about how his vocal doesn’t sounds the standard Chinese vocal interpretation where usually u don’t understand a word from his song , how he is being criticised in the beginning of his career until he make it big . This is all , I meant this talk is all what’s about and interesting and what’s really excite me - Music . Sing .
So so much thanks for the video u made and especially I realize I like the conversation between the vocal coach woman and the other 2 off screen , I find it rather boring when some of the video recorded by the vocal coach alone in the video . The conversation between u guys are the most exciting part discussing / fighting each other opinions on a song / singer .im gonna cry again 😂😂😂
Pls let me know if it’s just me or who felt the same as me
Jay Fung FTW 🎉
Both Jay and MC are born in Hong Kong while raised in Canada
MC did not return to Canada until junior high school and thus his English is not as native as Jay Fung.
Jay is obviously a great singer
廣東話歌不一定要字正腔圓，但一定不可以有懶音，否則就會變到好難聽好奇怪🫠而且好容易會變成另一個字..所以不會為了唱得好聽而轉讀音🤔
另外推介hins 騷靈情歌❤可以給老師看下香港演唱會傳統環節-握手位🤣
ruclips.net/video/-TGOpoJ3y6I/видео.htmlsi=zkXRcYqE4ainqp1n
對，每次聽到歌手n/l不分，我都覺得聽得好辛苦。另外廣東話太多音調，但其實近代都有些詞轉了讀音（填得唔好/用詞就曲😂），一兩個字都算，但有些較誇張就很明顯。
Recommend doing Hins Cheung酷愛 2014 vs 2018 vs 2020 live concert versions
Mc真的是寶藏歌手 好期待老師的評價
Want to thank JKai for bringing Flo to this channel to introduce Cantonese singers for Rozette to analyze.
仲要提一提錄呢個live recording，MC只係出左第二首歌，即係中文版反對無效，出道左三個月，而Jay Fung係出道左九年，所以兩人相比下，係用咪同技巧上，MC仲係比較fresh。
Green 唔係藉口 做得差係事實
許多比佢好嘅人 許多比佢準備得多好多年嘅人
問題係個市場中意揀花瓶出黎睇佢進步
都唔要有實力嘅人
請接受呢樣嘢唔好用乜嘢fresh 黎覺得咁樣係可以接受
呢個香港市場就係不是把機會留俾準備好嘅人
@@kaleowlc 係呢條片，同呢度既討論，無講過任何一個人係substandard，一路只係講緊prefer邊個多d，四個都係上乘既華語歌手，唔知講緊邊個係花瓶，同埋邊個無實力
@@kaleowlc 遲出道9年都話係籍口😂😂😂 話咗佢技巧係無Jay咁好，係事實。啱啱出道，都係事實。你自己先入為主咋？
@@kaleowlc mc功底唔錯 遠遠未到「做得差」
而且你既邏輯好奇怪，好多實力歌手
係岩岩出道時都有好大進步空間
點解唔可以話佢green 點解唔可以睇住佢進步？
你expect一個人出道頭幾年已經要有出道10幾年既舞台熟悉度？😂
同果個freshgrad要有10年工作經驗有咩分別
同埋唔明你既邏輯入面咩叫準備好
Jay Fung 比10年前又進步左
咁10年前既佢叫唔叫準備好？
MC無而家10年後既jay咁sophisticated就叫未準備好？我不理解
更何況MC唔係mirror
佢絕對係green而唔係差
Should let her do a critique of 思念即地獄 as this song is so western
Jay and Jace has a duet version in Cantonese. This is a great breakdown, would love to see more or follow up.
JKai, can show her JJ. Hong Kong'2023 Live Concert too. He sang Beyond Cantonese Song "海阔天空" with Paul Wong. JJ. & Anderson.Paak English Song "In The Joy", Live Performance Music Video in Jul'2023. He also got his own English Albums "Like You Do", & super fantastic too...🙏🏻🥰👍🏻
想睇review MC嘅記憶棉、同埋C All Star版本嘅反對無效 ❤
Jay Fung is still underrated. So proud to call myself his fan 🤩
千里之外, a perfect example to demostrate the discussed topic
強烈推薦2014酷愛！
Appreciate the analysis and really learned so much from a professional perspective in terms of vocal techniques. But regarding to the final part of the video, as a Cantonese native speaker, my question would be, is it necessary to sing a song "as close to English as you can not speaking English?" And does it have to let "English ear can wrap itself around"?
As mentioned in other comments, Cantonese language itself has its restrictions when it comes to being less "choppy". By making it "smoother" it's actually minimising the characteristics and it can change the words into a completely different meaning. And making it smoother or not in this context is rather an artistic choice than technique or not.
From a cultural perspective, I would question, shouldn't we have the confidence in keeping our language characteristics? I think it's crucial to remember that music should have the rooms of being interpreted differently based on different cultures and languages. It would be more fair and healthy to just simply think that we develop different preferences based on the languages we speak and the culture we grew up in. I would not expect a musical vocalist to sing like Jay Chou because there is a purpose for singing words clearly in such context. And in Cantonese culture as well as the language, it is crucial to hear the lyrics word by word because our culture pays more attention into the depth of the literature than the tune itself. (Though I personally think both are equally important). From a storytelling perspective, it's easier for people to understand what the song is about when words are clearly pronounced.
I hope the above explanation helps you understand more of the language and the reasons why Hins' interpretation was more "choppy".
A little side note, as Hins was from Guangzhou, his preference on the pronunciation of Cantonese should be different based on the regional difference as well. Anyway, thanks so much for choosing Hong Kong singers as your examples. Appreciate that!
軒公❤❤❤❤❤❤
希望老師可以聽一下張敬軒的《 騷靈情歌》
希望之後有關於張敬軒，馮允謙同MC嘅集數😍
jay fung本來就很會唱，只是mc太帥 多了很多迷妹喜歡他，他演唱會最少7成是女生
唔關事 mc都算多男fans 街客聽歌唔睇樣 佢哋sum up好中肯 mc唱法係介乎中西之間 jayfung係好西式正統嘅rnb 同佢兩個成長背景都有關 本地主流audience會接受mc多啲係predictable
我係60後男性，MC唱歌有獨特風格，有感染力，每粒音都諗過度過㗎！所以先吸引到我
@@somebody_else5163 係，男fans is here
我另一半好鍾意mc（話佢曳曳地好吸引），於是我就一齊聽一齊睇，利申本身都鍾意d歌😂
我認同老師分析話mc係介乎中西之間，而JF係比較western，因為上年睇過JF演唱會，佢最後唱how many times係好聽過整晚既所有廣東話歌，JF如果岀英文歌album我一定支持
Jay Fung is Canadian and he possibly uses English as his native language
English is Jay’s mother tongue for sure. Even he has moved back to Hong Kong these years, his Cantonese has much improved but he still cannot read Chinese characters
I would like to recommend Hins Cheung’s or any Hin’s recent concert live videos which show how Jay and Hin sing tgt and the differences between their styles 👍🏻👍🏻
Jay Fung 很愛他的聲音🥰
可以找一集聽Hins Cheung 的現場演唱會 絕對有驚喜的❤🤩
張敬軒現在嘅歌神
張敬軒 歌神😂😂😂
I think Jay Fung can balance between singing smoothly and Cantonese - love him and his songs!
perhaps you guys might want to listen to Gareth. T, who in my opinion is also blending his R&B style into Canto pop - his style is more like Jay Chou but in Cantonese
His way of singing in Cantonese also invited criticism
想看老師對閩南語歌的看法，家後這首歌很多人唱過，周深也唱過，希望能看到這首歌的比較！
我明語言同聽覺上嘅順暢度有關。我自己就覺得普通話同英文夾過粵語同英文，所以就係點解香港人中英夾雜，有人會話作狀。但係唔知音樂上粵語對聽覺影響會唔會係同咬字習慣有關呢？老師可以聽多幾首衛蘭唱粵語歌嗎？佢用拼音學粵語，雖然佢唱歌畀母語者更加字正腔圓，但係字嘅連結都保留咗英語嘅語感。想聽下老師分析。
周杰倫很屌，就跟聽外國歌一樣我不需要知道他唱什麼但很好聽，好聽跟聽不聽得懂歌詞是兩回事我認為，可是語法是中文所以很容易明白，而看歌詞會讓我更驚豔，一首歌可以讓母語者不看歌詞跟看歌詞體驗兩種感受，我不知道我在聽旋律還是外國歌，但當我看歌詞，我又覺得更屌了，我是在聽中文沒有錯。
可以點評一下Jay Fung的Days, they’ve gone too soon嗎，順帶一提Jay作的歌曲都是先有英語版demo然後才加上粵語詞，這一個特點讓他的作品充滿個人特色
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