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REL Classic 98 SUBWOOFER Can Save Your System with VINTAGE Vibe and SONIC BOOM!
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- Before you shell out a ton of money on new a new amp or speakers try this "fix" first! Check out my review of the REL Classic 98 Subwoofer! Give this subwoofer beauty a little extra time in setting up and you will be rewarded with clean, tight, deep bass that will have you rethinking what a subwoofer can be... and do! Please Like, Subscribe, Comment and Support my channel! Thanks for watching! For more information:
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Watching from Stillwater Ok. I look forward to all your videos!!!
I really appreciate your support! Texas and Oklahoma don't always see eyes to eye... but I think we can come together over audio!
Quick update ; Diggin' it more as time goes by. Enjoying your review of the 98. You're very funny! Just bought one last week I think this is my 10th sub . It looks very at home with my wharfedale Linton's. I'm not very good at describing the sound with words , but it is so nice . Pushing them with a Primaluna Prologue. Full ,rich ,room filling bass. It sounds much deeper than I thought it would. It truly has made me want to go through my record collection, it seems to make everything new. I'm sure it has some breaking in to do but I would say it's my favorite so far. Sounds like more than 300 watts. Really like the paper driver. Watching from Gateway to the west, St.Louis,Mo.
Sublime woodwork is eye candy for me and this model sub gives me an ultra low sugar high! My soapbox has been me screaming into the void " why just gloss black and gloss white for subs (and many other speakers)?" Most interiors in our homes are more matte in sheen and not piano gloss or piano white Architectural Digest like interiors. Is a nice subtle, light gray matte paint finish , being less costly to fabricate and another option to the beautiful walnut veneer finish, to much to ask for?!!! I'm off my soapbox now.😊
I’m a proud citizen of The United States of Analog from MD and NC - I have 3 subwoofers: a Jamo, a Dayton Audio, and a newly acquired REL T Zero
Thanks for watching! Looks like your flush with subs! Happy listening!
I have 2 Classic 98s, each of which is connected to the binding posts of a bi-wired Kef R11 Meta by custom spade-clip-equipped Speakon cables. Adjusting the crossover and volume can seem finicky, but trust your ears -- also use good recordings. Some recordings are not well engineered for the low end and will sound lumpy no matter what you do. Start with the low end frequency rating of your speakers, assume they don't actually go that low in your space. Follow the instructions for setting and turning the knobs. I expect you'll find your happy place without that much difficulty.
First time viewer and found it quite enjoyable. Here in Australia the REL Classic 98 retails for $2,699 aud.
I just purchased one today. The REL Classic 99 retails for $3,699 aud.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Well done. Waukegan, IL
Thanks for checking in!
Still running my REL Storm. Never a problem and still sounds great.
REL rules!
That's some nice video of the REL at the beginning showing the details. That's a nice piece of furniture. I've had the same floor standing speakers for 20 years. They have to look nice to stick around that long.
A lot of us listen with our eyes, too! Thanks for watching!
Hey There Bob - a great posting like this has me start to think about things I hadn’t considered before: placement of my sub and maybe that’s why standing waves are an issue for my space, flabby woofer, speed, etc. . You are causing me to dive deeper (not a bad thing as I’m a nut). It’s a really interesting topic as my goal is to optimize the system I have vs. buying new gear because I ‘think’ I’ve spotted the deficiencies in current equipment. Thanks again for keeping me on my toes and giving me a new sandbox to play in without succumbing to simply buying something new. This is a great teaching point. Keep on keeping on!
Hey, I really appreciate your comments! The struggle is real, keep working and refining your system! Good luck!
Allowance is canceled, lol! This was great. I own Cornwall IVs and want a sub but I don't want some shiny black or white box. Visually, the Classic 98 is a no-brainer and I know that you run Forte IVs so I was super excited when I got the notification that you were doing this review.
I have some of the same neuroses when it comes to subwoofers but this video has just about convinced me to give it a go. Keep up the great work, Bob! Love what you're doing!!
Have you hooked up with these yet? I'm wondering how they might sound with La Scalas.
Hey Bob, just got a Rel Britannia 3 that I am just starting to incorporate into my system. Speakers a Wilson watt puppy 3/2. Writing from Montreal Canada
Great review Bob! Just picked up this bad boy for my super destroyer, can't wait to blast the sounds of freedom as I liberate the galaxy with my fellow helldivers! Much love from Super Earth!
May the Force be with you, OBI-WAN! This is the way!
Thanks, a fun and informative video. My mains drop off around 60Hz. For me a pair of modest ELAC 1010s add a bit below that. Having 2 definitely makes placement easier and lets each work a little less hard.
Caution: unplug subs during electrical storms. The auto-on can get them fried during a surge. Been through it twice.
I have 2 Elac 3010. Love the app that controls them!
Good storm advice
Watching from East Moline, IL
Main system I have 2 12" Klipsch subs, don't remember model off hand, and in my little office/spare bedroom i running a $250 Sunfire SDS-8 8"dual driver powered sub that I just love!
Love your channel, and look forward to it..
Subwoofer jazzercise!!! Thanks for the vid. I've never had a sub, but now I'm thinking how much more healthy I could be if I got this one. I'd be fit as a fiddle. And I could cancel my wife's allowance for her gym membership.
Watching from Connecticut (with a REL Strata III sitting in the same corner for the last 25 years).
Wish I still had my Strata! Thanks for your support!
Checking in from Malaysia. I just collected my Classic 98 to pair with my Dynaudio Heritage Special powered by Naim integrated. Was deciding between T7x, T9x and S/510 and decided on the 98. Its blending in very well with my dyns and still running in. Hopefully will sound even better after a few weeks
Watching from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 🇨🇦been here since the beginning of your channel.
Heard about it from the cheap audio man 🍻
I have a klipsch RS 12W for a sub on my system , it replaced a 8” JBL that just wasn’t enough.
I live in Round Rock and yes Piranha is my go to store for records just discovered your channel, saw the episode for The IN Groove Mike in PHX I have actually been there too. I have 3 Subs in my house Klipsch 120SW and 2 S8 from a local company Audio Engine love those things connected to my TVs. Enjoy the channel thanks
I can hear your subs from here! Turn 'em down!!!! Thanks!😂
Beautiful Shady Hollow TX. Cerwin Vega HT S15A. 200 watts. Matches my CV D9s with their 15" woofers.
I have an NHT 12 inch ported externally amplified (with its own NHT amp that has a crossover setting on the back and gain control on the front). I also have another system that uses a PSB 8 inch internally powered and ported sub with crossover setting, phase switch and gain control.
I recently learned of a cool way to tune a sub via placement. You put the sub in the spot in the room where you will most often be listening from. Then you move around the room as your music is playing. Wherever you notice the best sound as you move all around the room is the spot that you will then place your sub. This method is easy and works every time. With the sub in its best position you can then fine tune the crossover and gain settings and voila! you're done!😊
Do I put the sub on my sofa?
Nice one!😅😂 Seriously though you put the sub at the foot of the sofa where you will sit or you can split the difference between where you sit and where any significant other sits (unless you are the only one who appreciates the stereo).😢
PS I forgot to mention that I live in Southwestern Ontario and Absolute Sound in Chatham with tech and custom build expert Angela Gilbert Yeung is my favourite hi fi source.❤
Dahai from Chicago. Mine is a DIY with a 12" Shiva paper driver in a sealed box using a design from Madisound, built back in the days on the ground of my garage and I almost broke my back :)
Hey man!! New subscriber from England…. I have the REL Strata sub, kindly given to me by a friend. They’re good, really good. Whilst the Strata doesn’t have these good looks, what it does have is bags and bags of ability…..I mean it’s British!! 😂😂
Love my (British) REL!!!
G’day mate from wet wet Melbourne Australia.
Currently running a baby Cambridge sub as my accidental sub. My main speakers have twin 12” woofers, still a sub adds value. But my current sub is inadequate tbh. It’s a living room so there are limits.
using 2 REL T7X's with my Magnepan 3.7i's from Bristol, Indiana. Love your videos, just found them and I find you both informative and enjoyable. BTW, soon to buy Forte IV's to use as an option in my system.
Okay, ow you're just bragging! Glad you're having fun with your system! You won't regret getting the Fortes!!! Thanks for the sub and the view!
Watching from Central Florida. Happy with a Klipsch Sub with my Heritage IV's. Don't need the boom but just need low end support. Love seeing Mystery to Me on display!
Auto corrected Heresy to Heritage😢
I'm trying to get into some earlier Mac! Thanks for watching!
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From southwest Ohio here. I'm still using my Klipsch R-112SW subwoofer that I had with my little Wharfedale Diamond 2.0 speakers. They are in another setup now and I don't really need the sub with my Zu Audio DW6 speakers since they have excellent bass for me.
Taylor Lakeway Texas.
You may have heard of it!
Especially if you are indeed cool Bob.
Campbell River, British Columbia, Canada
A long time ago, Klipsch once made furniture grade subs. You gotta buy the REL just based on the looks alone.
Current favorite is a classic Velodyne DLS4000R. - Spokane Valley, WA
Rochester,NY I have two REL T7i subwoofers, one just right of center between the speakers and one close to the listening position off the right sidewall.
From Bedford Indiana. You're doing a awesome job.
I appreciate your support!
Listening from Northeast France ( Moselle Department )!! Don’t have a Subwoofer !
13:37 "Subwoofers are a mystery to me...", standing in front of Fleetwood Mac's Mystery to Me album. Coincidence, or a coded message? 🤔
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Great video, Bob. I’ve got an outlaw audio ultra-x12 sub that I sometimes mess around with trying to integrate into my system. I share some of your initial thoughts as far as the process of tuning/placement/etc being a hassle.
I have some Kef R3 Metas that arrive today, and I’m hoping they will be great without the sub. My main problem with the sub is trying to get it set up to work well across the range of music I listen to. One record it’ll sound nice and smooth like it’s just an extension of the mains, but other songs it’s loud and boomy as hell. Could be the sub, as it is designed more for home theater applications. Maybe something like this or the KEF KC-92 would be a better choice down the road.
Anyway, thanks for another great video!
I would love to tell you which subwoofers I am using, but the stigma of sonic ridicule weighs too heavy. Be suffice to say I am looking to get an RSL or SVS in the future. My Elac and Yamaha fill the space for now. Thanks, my friend, for your time and efforts to discuss and share this with us all. Stay well.
No shame... I have 2 Elac 3010. Love the app controls! Happy hunting!
Hi buddy, I’ve still got a Rell strata 3 in cherry wood. Looks a lot like the 98.
Still sounds great to me, I’m using it with tannoy Cheviots and a mcintosh ma2275.
All the best to you, Giles uk
Now every is making me feel sad for selling my Strata!
I can't find Giles on a map!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Hi there, you’ve already got me on your map. I’m in Hingham, Norfolk. Just east of Lakenheath.
My name’s Giles🙃
@@gilesdavis6345 well that explains it then! Cheers, my friend!
I believe in all you said Thanks for all the info and maybe Iam ready to purchase this rel now.Ive just wonder how it might fair with my 20 plus yr old velodyne ULD 15 which is also walnut in color and redy to be ditch because of amp problem.Again THANKS...more power on you
I never understand why it matters where a sub goes……I’ve always been led to believe that 50hz and below is omni-directional…..as someone who has produced music (Drum n Bass) my job with sub was to make it “just appear” as a pressure more than a tone…..
Just an observation..🤔🤓
While I'm out making random comments, a great track for testing to see if you remembered to turn your subwoofer on (I have dual 12" subs in my living room I turn off when my next door neighbor is home): Killa Cam by Cam'ron. Beware. When he says "bass is loaded" at the beginning he isn't talking baseball.
I'll check REL,but this is too much wattage for my room. Hope they have smaller ones. Thx for you presentation of this excellent product. 👌so glad you enjoy this subwoofer
Cool Bob
Cool!
Watching from mid Michigan!
Hello. Omaha Ne. here. I use both a Klipsch 12 and an Emotiva 8.
British Columbia, Canada
Redmond, OR. It doesn't take much to stand out from the 'black oak man-cave' look so kudos to REL but JBL's classic l-10 10" @250watts comes in walnut at a lot less $. matches perfectly sound wise & visually with the JBL classic offering (though why no 12" JBL?) I get the 'boom' critique; i feel like I have to step into a decompression chamber after ever time I listened to my dual SC-2000 SVS subs. C'mon audio world how difficult is it to offer colors or wood for subs? Very difficult apparently. 🤷🏻♂
Hi Bob
That subwoofer is a beauty.
I am using Tzero Mk2 and T5x(?) fro REL. they are working good to me. AND I am using small sub called Micropod sub in my office from Scandyna (i don't know they stiil in manufacturing or closed down) and this one is really great to me.
LOU REED 'transformer" !!!!!! that's awesome !
great and fun review as usual. thanks !!!
from Seoul S.Korea
Hello from Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada. I enjoyed your review of the Classic 98.
But, I am pretty sure it is manufactured in China (not to say that is bad or anything).
You could be correct. I need to hire a fact checker... what are you doing later?
not an audio question but you're living in Austin Texas and I was wondering if you've noticed a change over the last couple years with the homeless getting out of control and other situations that were never there before?
I've lived here since '74. There has been a rise, of course. Sometimes it's out in the open and sometimes it's just not in plain site... depending on what laws are in effect at the time. I try to have compassion... I wish you there was an easy solution to the suffering. It's seems to be a mental health issue, really... and now back to the audio talk... Thanks!
Well done sir!! Seattle Wa 😊😊
This means its a review coming for the ls50 Meta? I own it myself. Would love to hear what you think about it.
I need to ask a question I can. As I am soon to buy a new pair of Klipsch Heritage I wanted to know if oyu did any comparison between the Forte IV and Cornwall IV? I'm on the fence as to which one I want. I have room for either, 2 REL T7X's and it is strictly a 2 channel room, no HT at all. Love to hear any opinion you may have
For me it came down to budget and available space. If you have the cash and the room the Cornwallis are great. I might have read in a couple of places that the Forte resembled sound of La Scalas. Dont know if it's true, but it influenced me. Thanks for watching!
Is it fast enough for LaScalas? I have two REL 1510’s paired w/my LaScalas and thought about getting these instead.
I only wish I could hear them with LaScalas. I can't inform at the present time! Thanks!
Comment #3. Have you heard of the subwoofer crawl? I'm not dedicated enough to do it. Supposedly you place the subwoofer where your head normally would be when listening to music, then crawl around the floor and put your head in all the spots you could place the subwoofer until you find a spot that sounds perfect, then place the sub there. Yeah right like I'm gonna do that with dual 12" Dayton Audios and I'm a skinny old guy. Not happening.
REL make great subs, but I feel this one is overpriced. I buy my subs from BK electronics who for many years made subs for REL, many of their classic designs.
Now they sell direct. Beautiful real wood veneer old school subs. Much cheaper than REL. They even match the veneers if you buy two, and customer service is excellent.
Don't know if they export though.
I know this sounds like a commercial, but I have no skin in the game. I just love the four subs I bought from them.
What you don't get is the bells and whistles and room correction etc.
Edit. Should mention I'm in Scotland and BK are in Essex UK. Seemingly at one point they made 1000 units per month for REL which they shipped to Welsh Wales, the land of the unpronounceable place names. And dragons.
Hey, Man! You didn't hurt MY feelings! I appreciate the tip!
So it’s connected off your power amp terminals? I want it but passive pre doesn’t facilitate. Thanks
I just bought a pair of Magnepan LRS+’s and even though I have a vintage JBL sub from the late 80’s that goes down to 20htz. I am looking for a good modern sub that will work…all I care about is how they perform with music. Is this REL a music sub?
I much prefer High quality Speakers that can go down to a true 35Hz or less with 2 - 12 inch woofers/1 passive. 12 inches? Cuz manageable cabinet size. I don't believe I will ever by a Sub.
Show me such speakers!
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Did you end up purchasing the Classic 98?
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I L O V E IT!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Rel had to go and complicate things by releasing the Classic 99...
so what's your issue with the REL T/9x ?
No issue at all. I just had more fun with 98... and it's a looker. I would get the 98 for my vinyl setup and the 9x for my theater rig! Thanks for watching!
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