Option C...you take a pic of the cam, screw in mount, mineral site, mark the sites GPS coordinates , remove the camera and unscrew the mount and drop it all off at the DNR. Or option D, all the above but relocate the cam to another spot.... 😂
Being a fellow Indiana resident the way I always understood it (and I may be wrong) was baiting on Hoosier National was only illegal 2weeks before season.
If you are on Hoosier National I’m not for 100% certain but I believe state baiting regulations apply. However if you are on a property that doesn’t allow any baiting you know who to send the pins to, he will check it out for sure. It just puts everyone on a tough spot though I’d be super nervous to be hunting anywhere around there though when you aren’t the responsible party for putting it out.
Rules don't work unless they're enforced. I call in every illegal bait station and mineral pile i see on public. It is every hunters business if folks are baiting when not legal. Without rules we might as well be animals.
personally I usually would just move on but after last year I see the need to report it. I was on a public land draw hunt that was just a three day hunt. I had scouted several spot prior to the hunt. The week of the hunt I was scouting the areas again to hang stand. Walked to first spot and found cell camera right where I was going to go. I started to move on and as I walked away seen another camera facing at the first cell camera about 40 yards away. It had feed in front of it. I left went to second spot found another cell cam looked to be same brand with same lock. I just moved on i didn't want to get close enough to know if feed was in front of it. Found a third spot with same style of camera. My friend told game warden about first spot. He told us that we couldn't hunt anywhere near that spot. Being this was a three day hunt that I got drawn for this person was ruining all the these spots for everyone. If game warden had caught anyone near the bait wether they did it or not they would be fighting a ticket at the very least.
Rules and laws are only there to keep honest people in check. The poachers are gonna poach and fines won’t stop them. “Well take their licenses” but they are poachers that doesn’t mean shit either. At least with an illegal bait pile you know where they are gonna be hunting so move on. They will get what’s coming to the one way or another but if they get caught they will just move and now could be messing up another of your spots.
I send the location to the game warden. On public it is a shared natural resource. People who take advantage of it in that way aren’t always terrible people but I let the game warden make the decision, I just do my part to notify them.
@@beforetheecho have you tried doing the selfie camera on your phone ? If you don’t have a laser pointer hold up the phone against the camera and the selfie camera gives a good idea of what you will see
Fair chase sais bait is placed for the taking of an animal and that the area is considered baited for 10 days after removal of the bait and the affected ground. … if removed 10 days before season starts is it baiting to take an animal?
Many people make mock scrapes and add deer attractants to existing and mock scrapes. I just can't wrap my head around waking up to a mock scrape or an existing scrape. No amount of deer attractant can mask human scent at the point of the scrape. For the question posed, I mind my own business.
Did Huck just say "dont tell the folks" 😂 his vocabulary is beyond his years LOL.. I just keep walking. Ive not seen bait here in MI, but illegal treestands everywhere. Whatever, im to busy hunting, and just the time I call the Warden, itll be some wounded vet's stand or some guy who got injured or sick or a car accident and couldnt get it. I just keep moving and use it as intel to stay away from.
Here in Wisconsin it is illegal to bait in certain counties. They put these restrictions on certain counties for CWD reasons. I do a lot of scouting and come across mineral sites with cameras on them a lot and it drives me nuts. For one, its the worst thing that could be out there if they are trying to combat CWD as it causes the deer to lick the same items. Also it is a lazy mans way of scouting instead of trying to strategically place your cameras in areas the deer need to walk in front of. I typically will turn them into the DNR if it is mineral but if it is just corn piles I do not. If its corn piles I just move to a completely different area as they have ruined that spot by constantly going in and out to bait.
Josh, my vote is to keep quiet 🤐 On your private land, that’s a whole nother situation. On public, I would just keep walkin. Any goofball doing that on public land just can’t wait 😝 to get in all kinds of trouble. He’ll do that all on his own.
Pawpaw fruit? I mind my own business when I find illegal setups. Most of the time the CO couldn't/wouldn't do anything unless there was a hunter hunting over the bait or if you had photo/video evidence of a person putting out the bait or screwing in the steps. I suppose a CO could try to access the cams memory card but idk. I don't want my truck getting vandalized at a later date either 😂
My brother found a huge pile of what appeared to be “yellow Acorns” last year on some government land we hunt a lot behind my grandparents. he was walking through the woods making a video on his phone about it then he said he looked up and lo and behold the culprit was looking down on him from his also illegal ladderstand on said government land. He climbed down and talked too my brother and asked him if he was going too report him and my brother said he wasn’t but he told the guy he shouldn’t be doing it especially on government land where it literally ruins the spot for everyone. We know who it is due too the only access being through private land. Our buddy’s dad works at the jail and my brother said he was going too borrow one of his sheriff’s outfits and walk in front of the guys cameras but not where you could see his face lol he didn’t do it but I can only imagine because the guys pretty much didn’t hunt there the rest of the year after that incident
@@brushcrawler8612 I can understand why they wouldn’t want you too bait on public land but I don’t understand why you can’t on private land I don’t know how it is now since cwd is spreading but used too every state around TN allowed private land baiting either by permit or just allowed it in general. In TN we can grow giant corn fields soybeans apple trees etc. and sit over that and hunt but a man goes and gets a bag of corn and sits it out and hunts it oh my it’s just horrible. I follow the laws whatever they are but some of them just don’t make sense.
@@beforetheecho glad you found the humor in it, you was about a hour away from where I live in trumann Arkansas when you were hunting in Memphis, wish you would have connected on one but I really do enjoy your content man, you keep posting and we’ll keep watching.
Whoever is baiting is going to get caught it’s just a matter of time before someone walks by and drops a dime on them. I would avoid the area altogether and hunt somewhere else. If the spot is good especially from a map standpoint other people will see it and the warden will end up in there soon enough.
Where I get frustrated is people like this are now putting others in a bad spot. What if I never found it and ended up hunting near it and the game warden thought it was me that put it out.
@@beforetheecho specially in season. You’re not gonna scout your whole area before you set up. Couple years ago I got lucky and happened to spot the corn pile before I sat down and had to move areas
The problem is it's public and illegal. What if someone that has no idea it's there ends up setting near it not knowing then they get into trouble because some idiot was bending the rules.
Say something to the local warden if you have to follow regulations you can't hunt anywhere near without putting yourself at risk so speak up they will learn or move
I think i said on your live the other day to turn him in. But I thought about it Jesus said in John 8:7 “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her" I think its best to just move on. Hunt your own hunt and let him cheat. God sees him. Ive walked across folks on public land with all sort of violations. Often its a teaching moment if you have your kids with you. " See how this fellow broke the rules. In our family we always do whats right. God would have you to always follow the rules even when no one is watching" Anyway. Just another way of looking at it.
@markdemi2164 brother if you don't like this channel you have no obligation to watch it man. If I were you I wouldn't waste your time on me anymore and move on. I truly hope you have a great season this year, and God Bless
Christian or not christian, snitching is still not cool. If it bothers one that someone has an "illegal" mineral lick, remove the lick before considering snitching.
just curious what makes me a selfish person in this video? I shared some tips in the video and you saw a showed a friend this spot so he could hunt it? I also try to give back to my audience as much as I can with giveaways of $1000s of dollars worth of gear. If you no me personally then you can call me selfish if you still think I am. Seems selfish to call someone selfish for no reason at all?
That's a paw paw! Where's my nickel?😂
Option C...you take a pic of the cam, screw in mount, mineral site, mark the sites GPS coordinates , remove the camera and unscrew the mount and drop it all off at the DNR. Or option D, all the above but relocate the cam to another spot.... 😂
Paw paw… yes sir… fort them here in Pa near me. Good stuff Josh! Can’t wait for the next hunting vids. Good luck buddy!
Paw paw. Yum
Being a fellow Indiana resident the way I always understood it (and I may be wrong) was baiting on Hoosier National was only illegal 2weeks before season.
I don't think so... plus this isnt in the hoosier national forest
I wish I could get in the woods, working dark to dark every day 😩.
Love your content keep it coming.
thanks man
Paw paw I wish. I could find some myself
If you are on Hoosier National I’m not for 100% certain but I believe state baiting regulations apply. However if you are on a property that doesn’t allow any baiting you know who to send the pins to, he will check it out for sure. It just puts everyone on a tough spot though I’d be super nervous to be hunting anywhere around there though when you aren’t the responsible party for putting it out.
I would just keep walking 🚶♂️
Rules don't work unless they're enforced. I call in every illegal bait station and mineral pile i see on public. It is every hunters business if folks are baiting when not legal. Without rules we might as well be animals.
personally I usually would just move on but after last year I see the need to report it. I was on a public land draw hunt that was just a three day hunt. I had scouted several spot prior to the hunt. The week of the hunt I was scouting the areas again to hang stand. Walked to first spot and found cell camera right where I was going to go. I started to move on and as I walked away seen another camera facing at the first cell camera about 40 yards away. It had feed in front of it. I left went to second spot found another cell cam looked to be same brand with same lock. I just moved on i didn't want to get close enough to know if feed was in front of it. Found a third spot with same style of camera. My friend told game warden about first spot. He told us that we couldn't hunt anywhere near that spot. Being this was a three day hunt that I got drawn for this person was ruining all the these spots for everyone. If game warden had caught anyone near the bait wether they did it or not they would be fighting a ticket at the very least.
Rules and laws are only there to keep honest people in check. The poachers are gonna poach and fines won’t stop them. “Well take their licenses” but they are poachers that doesn’t mean shit either. At least with an illegal bait pile you know where they are gonna be hunting so move on. They will get what’s coming to the one way or another but if they get caught they will just move and now could be messing up another of your spots.
I'm sure it's been said already but that's a pawpaw
lol well then you tell us at the end
I send the location to the game warden. On public it is a shared natural resource. People who take advantage of it in that way aren’t always terrible people but I let the game warden make the decision, I just do my part to notify them.
Who makes the laser pointer you were using to check where the trail cam was pointing?
Links in the description of the video
@@beforetheecho have you tried doing the selfie camera on your phone ? If you don’t have a laser pointer hold up the phone against the camera and the selfie camera gives a good idea of what you will see
Good Video, keep it up
Thanks brother
Fair chase sais bait is placed for the taking of an animal and that the area is considered baited for 10 days after removal of the bait and the affected ground. … if removed 10 days before season starts is it baiting to take an animal?
On private land you are correct. No baiting on public
That’s an Indiana banana! Otherwise known as a paw paw
Let the warden know 💯
Paw paw
It’s a Paw Paw !
got it!
Many people make mock scrapes and add deer attractants to existing and mock scrapes. I just can't wrap my head around waking up to a mock scrape or an existing scrape. No amount of deer attractant can mask human scent at the point of the scrape. For the question posed, I mind my own business.
A paw paw
Paw paw! I think they taste like a banana and bubble gum.
That's a good description
Did Huck just say "dont tell the folks" 😂 his vocabulary is beyond his years LOL.. I just keep walking. Ive not seen bait here in MI, but illegal treestands everywhere. Whatever, im to busy hunting, and just the time I call the Warden, itll be some wounded vet's stand or some guy who got injured or sick or a car accident and couldnt get it. I just keep moving and use it as intel to stay away from.
Same here! tree stands left after season is a huge issue in Pa…
Pawpaw.that is what you ate
Here in Wisconsin it is illegal to bait in certain counties. They put these restrictions on certain counties for CWD reasons. I do a lot of scouting and come across mineral sites with cameras on them a lot and it drives me nuts. For one, its the worst thing that could be out there if they are trying to combat CWD as it causes the deer to lick the same items. Also it is a lazy mans way of scouting instead of trying to strategically place your cameras in areas the deer need to walk in front of. I typically will turn them into the DNR if it is mineral but if it is just corn piles I do not. If its corn piles I just move to a completely different area as they have ruined that spot by constantly going in and out to bait.
Nice music haha
Josh, my vote is to keep quiet 🤐 On your private land, that’s a whole nother situation. On public, I would just keep walkin. Any goofball doing that on public land just can’t wait 😝 to get in all kinds of trouble. He’ll do that all on his own.
Paw Paw fruit!
thats it
I think the fruit was Indiana banana. Paw paws
You got it!
Let the warden know. Keep it honest for everyone.
Pawpaw fruit. Better than bananas. Try pawpaw pudding!
dang that does sound good
Paw paw fruit
Paw paw. Don't eat too many
Haha 1 bite
@@beforetheecho they are really rich
Get your buck then go to the warden with it lol
I walk away and don’t say a word. My friend turned a guy in and my friend on his way home that night got a ticket for 65mph in 55mph.
What does a speeding ticket have to do with turning someone in?
@@chasem21 Karma, breaking law is breaking the law.
No good deed goes un
Punished
Pawpaw fruit?
I mind my own business when I find illegal setups. Most of the time the CO couldn't/wouldn't do anything unless there was a hunter hunting over the bait or if you had photo/video evidence of a person putting out the bait or screwing in the steps. I suppose a CO could try to access the cams memory card but idk.
I don't want my truck getting vandalized at a later date either 😂
Thats what I thought
My brother found a huge pile of what appeared to be “yellow Acorns” last year on some government land we hunt a lot behind my grandparents. he was walking through the woods making a video on his phone about it then he said he looked up and lo and behold the culprit was looking down on him from his also illegal ladderstand on said government land. He climbed down and talked too my brother and asked him if he was going too report him and my brother said he wasn’t but he told the guy he shouldn’t be doing it especially on government land where it literally ruins the spot for everyone. We know who it is due too the only access being through private land. Our buddy’s dad works at the jail and my brother said he was going too borrow one of his sheriff’s outfits and walk in front of the guys cameras but not where you could see his face lol he didn’t do it but I can only imagine because the guys pretty much didn’t hunt there the rest of the year after that incident
@@Dseaboch 😂 yellow acorns.
I personally don't have a problem with baiting. I just wish we could all get along.
@@brushcrawler8612 I can understand why they wouldn’t want you too bait on public land but I don’t understand why you can’t on private land I don’t know how it is now since cwd is spreading but used too every state around TN allowed private land baiting either by permit or just allowed it in general. In TN we can grow giant corn fields soybeans apple trees etc. and sit over that and hunt but a man goes and gets a bag of corn and sits it out and hunts it oh my it’s just horrible. I follow the laws whatever they are but some of them just don’t make sense.
Bigfoot scat?
man youre real close lol
@@beforetheecho glad you found the humor in it, you was about a hour away from where I live in trumann Arkansas when you were hunting in Memphis, wish you would have connected on one but I really do enjoy your content man, you keep posting and we’ll keep watching.
Whoever is baiting is going to get caught it’s just a matter of time before someone walks by and drops a dime on them.
I would avoid the area altogether and hunt somewhere else. If the spot is good especially from a map standpoint other people will see it and the warden will end up in there soon enough.
If I see people breaking the law I text the game warden. I have to follow the rules so do you. You’re not special.
Where I get frustrated is people like this are now putting others in a bad spot. What if I never found it and ended up hunting near it and the game warden thought it was me that put it out.
@@beforetheecho specially in season. You’re not gonna scout your whole area before you set up. Couple years ago I got lucky and happened to spot the corn pile before I sat down and had to move areas
If it's on public it should at least be known by wildlife
I always let fishing and game know but, I don’t think they do anything about it.
What’s wrong with putting out freaking minerals? I mean I have no clue what state you’re in but it’s legal in my state and it helps the deer.
The problem is it's public and illegal. What if someone that has no idea it's there ends up setting near it not knowing then they get into trouble because some idiot was bending the rules.
Screw in camera mount don't bother me, baiting to get an unfair advantage does.
Pawpaws
Report so people quit breaking rules so everyone has a level playing field
Imagine sitting over a pile of food and calling yourself a hunter
in some states that is about the only way they hunt, it is legal
Paw paw fruit ?
Yep!
@@beforetheecho im hunting southern Indiana also I've never found one
That was a northern putrid poison pear you just ate, sorry to inform you that you only have several decades to live use them wisely
Pawpaw.
Pawpaw
Say something to the local warden if you have to follow regulations you can't hunt anywhere near without putting yourself at risk so speak up they will learn or move
Yep. I'm good with where I hunt. It's in a completely different ridge system but I understand what you mean
I think i said on your live the other day to turn him in. But I thought about it
Jesus said in John 8:7 “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her"
I think its best to just move on. Hunt your own hunt and let him cheat. God sees him.
Ive walked across folks on public land with all sort of violations. Often its a teaching moment if you have your kids with you. " See how this fellow broke the rules. In our family we always do whats right. God would have you to always follow the rules even when no one is watching"
Anyway. Just another way of looking at it.
Did i miss the part where you caught a poacher with the laser light?
No you missed nothing just a title for the video
@markdemi2164 brother if you don't like this channel you have no obligation to watch it man. If I were you I wouldn't waste your time on me anymore and move on. I truly hope you have a great season this year, and God Bless
can u even read ? thats not what it say it dnt say any thing about catching a poacher WITH a laser light
😂
Yep.. you missed it in more ways than one.. no where in the title does it say he caught a poacher with a laser light. 😂
Christian or not christian, snitching is still not cool. If it bothers one that someone has an "illegal" mineral lick, remove the lick before considering snitching.
Don't be such a selfish person. Your deer racks end up in a yard sale anywho.
just curious what makes me a selfish person in this video? I shared some tips in the video and you saw a showed a friend this spot so he could hunt it? I also try to give back to my audience as much as I can with giveaways of $1000s of dollars worth of gear. If you no me personally then you can call me selfish if you still think I am. Seems selfish to call someone selfish for no reason at all?
I just mind my own buisness and stay out of there.
Thats probably what im going to do. The spot i found i way better anyhow.
Paw paw