Per capita we already make the most. Sure we could be doing more because we have so much sun and space, but just balancing out the conversation with the fact that we already produce the most per person due to such high penetration of roof top solar. Now for the commercial sector to catch up.
It’s only fairly recent that solar is cost effective enough to be used on a large scale. Australia has played its part in a big way to making this a reality. The government doesn’t help with its communication as they are unable to talk straight to the public as they want to still sell and use coal and other fossil fuels. But policy has been in place which has allowed solar to become a part of the energy grid without causing problems in other parts of the economy.
Telsla have added sound to the car when starting and driving. You can chose what it sounds like from a huge range and even upload your own sound. It's been made mandatory in Germany I think
@@grantbuttenshaw thankyou for the info👍 Yeah, I was a bit outraged🧐🤣 Makes sense to have some audio until EVs are the normal majority & then we all can actually hear EVs👍 Relaxed alfresco dining, watching & listening to the EVs rolling by🤘
@@grantbuttenshaw that speaker is not present in Australian cars. So no tesla car in Australia is capable of revving up as per the video. And just to clarify: that white tesla is an Australian car with right hand drive and an Australian number plate.
A most interesting story about renewable energy in Australia. It’s clear that governments must have a clear and integrated system approach and policies to support a renewable energy market. I hope that this channel follows up on the community battery project. As an interested Malaysian I would like to see this happening in my country but in a very informed way.
Knowing my government, instead of supporting renewables, they will continue to cater to the oil and gas industry lobbies and fight the change bitterly. They are already creating new taxes to put on electric vehicles owners where the rest of the world is giving rebates and fees and tax cuts to incentivise electric uptake. And some states have cut the credit they pay for solar energy upload to the grid to just 3 cents per kwh, 10% of what they charge for energy use from the grid. We have the best geography and position to take advantage of renewables in the world and there is huge support and drive for it in the public and businesses, we should be a world leader of renewables by miles. Instead we have politicians in charge who are actively hostile against it.
@@penitent2401 yes, the part about charging EV based on miles travel and the surprise from the industry was mentioned in the story. It’s an example of un-integrated administration of renewable energy. Australia has the talent to really be world class renewable energy leaders and are actually already showing what its capable of. Hope more of the right people step up and eventually the country gets the leadership it deserves. When that happens, the region will notice and will also benefit!
It takes more energy to capture carbon than to leave it in the ground, its the laws of thermodynamics. You break the bonds it takes more to rebuild them if you do it chemically or with electricity. Unless you means preserving mangroves, swamps, regrowing kelp etc, and forests is easier but we've destroyed so much already. And we don't know how to rebuild them and takes time to really sequester much. (As I understand it). But what might be required if we end up with run away CO2. We need to leave fossil fuel in the ground and the only way and to get there, while preserving and increasing human standard of living, we need batteries, solar, wind, hydro, thermal, and nuclear in combination is the best solution.
CO2 capture is for now little more than a fantasy, the technology for it is inefficient or does more harm than good. With just one big exception, plant more trees, plants are the best and most proven at it, also the cheapest and most enviromentally friendly method. Unfortunately this is Australia where the clueless policicians get to do things their way. They are clearing vast swath of bush land and forrests and destroying natural wildlife habitats and pristine ecosystems to plant down wind turbines in the name of saving the environment. One step forward three steps back.
all we need to do is get multi national renewable companies to fund private schools, 10 or 20 years later all senior politicians will be highly in favour of renewables.
Lithium is NOT a rare nor expensive material. It is abundant in the world, but not easy to harvest. Cobalt is, but is not so big part of batteries as it was in the past. But recycling is cheaper than mining... Toxic chemicals are in OLD batteries, like carbatteries and throwaway batteries. Ofcourse recycling is good, but Lithium-Ion and LFP are not as harmfull as PB-car batteries.
It's interesting how Australia is ahead of Southern California in terms of solar panels and it's flipped in terms of electric vehicles. On our small street we have 24 homes with 31 Tesla Model 3 or Y.
Why don't they just use the recycling facilities currently in use for cars, phones, hdtv, computers, printers, catalytic converters and nuclear power plants? Oh.. because those facilities don't exist.
In regards to battery recycling. The best option, no regulation.... nice. Producers of goods need to be held accountable for what they produce and sell. Needs to be a part of the desgn of the good. Easy repair, reuse/recycle strategies that must be adhered to and checked. Not just a free lunch.
@@elephantintheroom5678 Leave the door open for government and they'll always figure out a way to bleed a good thing dry. You see, two can play this game.
@@elephantintheroom5678 Climate has always changed. They have found tropical fuana, woolly mammoths, along with alligators in places that have four seasons now, that where once covered with glaciers... Environment changes and apparently always will weather we jump on one foot while rubbing our bellies or not
Yes, totally bizarre that they would add an engine sound, it shows the editor knows nothing about EVs, nor the producer of the segment. The ABC clearly has problems...
1. There should be a system to enable to charge the electric car from the house battery charged by solar. 2. If the price of the electricity purchased by the power companies is slashing why it is not being reduced for us consumers.
Solar is produced in the middle of the day, when no one uses it. There's a small spike in the mornings when people wake up, but it's evening when the demand for energy is at its peak, and solar produces nothing then. Not that difficult to understand, is it?
@@S2Tubes Midday is actually the time all the aircons are being used and even then the electricity price isnt all that much different while the solar producers have their rates slashed.
1. I think they mentioned that what the lady near the end was doing via AGL. 2. The issue is costs for providers is increasing (building transformers, power lines etc etc.) as that is there responsibility with the privatized system, they are still ripping us off but.
@@drpk6514 Midday is not the peak power usage. It's less than the mornings as people wake up, and much less than evenings as they get home. Take a look at any power usage chart by hour, and see for yourself. The problem with solar is twofold, first, it produces power when no one wants it. Second, now that everyone has solar, there's an excess that is actually detrimental to the grid in some cases. Batteries solve all these problems, but no one wants to buy batteries.
@@S2Tubes 1st when did I say its pick hour? 2nd the power consumption is higher at the workplace than homes. I clearly said if there is too much supply and the companies which buy them has slash the price,then why it is not provided to the consumers with a slashed price?
Vanadium flow batteries are built here but they aren't economically viable yet and take up a lot of room. Good for properties when the price goes down and they are recyclable, scalable, no safety issues and don't have the nasties that lithium does.
Australia is way ahead of NZ in terms of solar. It’s awesome to see such a move. Hopefully policies in NZ will encourage instalment of solar and energy storage seems (either lithium-ion or alternatives like flow batteries, molten salt etc)
Individuals shouldn't be the ones fronting the cost for solar power and solar storage. The entire electricity grid needs to be nationalised if you want REAL steps to be taken in moving towards renewables. Solar panels and storage shouldn't be on homes, built in this haphazard network of people who can afford it. They should be in large battery plants and solar farms where specialised staff and engineers can safely work with these batteries. If everyone has enormous LI ION batteries in their homes you're going to have a lot more house fires. Also: Private electricity companies are chasing profits and having Individuals generate their own power is a threat to that so they will hamstring it as much as they can. If you were to nationalise them so they weren't chasing profits they will not be hamstringing renewables. TL;DR nationalise the energy grid, and have solar farms and battery plants rather than sticking it in people's houses.
So if they’re wanting to charge home owners for supplying electricity when there is an over supply ,will they do the same to coal and gas power plants to have an equal market?
There already is a mechanism in place- the wholesale price of electricity. When there is an oversupply, it will drop and in come cases be negative, which makes it uneconomical to produce and supply energy and incentivises producers to turn off production if they are able to.
@@kaiviti81 true , however in this system , a coal power plant could actively over supply power and just get a slightly low price , but actively effect a penalty on roof top solar owners .
Interesting - not a pessimist, but it might be a good idea to think very carefully about the environmental footprint of the Battery industry end to end before jumping in boots and all. It may end up not being quite as green s as we may think now. Perhaps at the end of the day something like hydrogen might work out to be a better solution…
Yeah I don't think people quite realise how many more batteries we will be making to accommodate a fully solar grid and a full EV car infrastructure. I've always advocated for having electric trains and rail instead of EVs so our resources are used more efficiently, and so we stop building cars (cars electric and petrol are bad for the environment, EVs are better but they are still also very bad for the environment)
@@mwmentor yeah it's really frustrating when all the coverage is on EVs and individual "solutions" (That aren't really solutions). I just want adequate public transport and to not have to spend thousands maintaining a car... to much to ask for I guess
I think people need to understand that batteries and probably even solar are not good for the environment. They are just much less bad than fossil fuels. You still need mining, refining, then transporting and producing the goods, all of which is very energy intensive. Now if all our energy was renewable it wouldn't be as big of a deal, it's just getting to that point that takes time, and right now if we want to produce green projects we have to at least partly use fossil fuels for generating the energy needed as well as transporting the minerals or products around the world. So we should definitely pursue renewables but we'll have to find ways of reducing their impact along the way because we don't really have the time to keep using fossil fuels until we find a perfect solution, which probably doesn't even exist.
Were the planet not already in a crisis from fossil fuel burning - you might have a point. But we are long past that point. And even with no recycling/reusing (unlikely) - it is still worth it due to the increased efficiency, zero tailpipe emissions and ability to be powered by renewables.
The problem is that the norm is to turn a blind eye to anything which does not provide a direct benefit. That is human nature which has to be identified
@@stephenleyden9559 I don’t think you understand. It’s common for most to turn a blind eye to the homeless, violence, general mistreatment. People won’t like it but won’t get involved because there is no direct benefit in doing so. It’s normal human behaviour. It’s this behaviour which allows industry such as the meat industry to exist. The bulk of people will think it’s wrong but say nothing because that is the direct benefit to the individual. Whatever you said sounds like the opposite of what actually goes on.
NSW makes illegal electric/hybrid powered skateboards, scooters and bikes it would be fair to say progress is extremely slow from a public perspective.
a 30 minutes program and not a single mention of how having only 5 percent of cats be electric v2g is equal to double what the entire grid would need to store renewable energy
There's a lot of energy goes into petrol/diesel pumping, refining, transporting. And not sure where you get your stats - the grid can and has grown historically by many times to accommodate things like fridges, aircon, aluminium smelters (10% of some states are just one smelter!), home appliances galore. With cheap, distributed renewables - many households are getting rate limited for feed in anyhow (due to the grid refusing to allow bigger systems) - if that can go to a car battery or home battery instead then it is not getting wasted. Also: vehicle to grid will likely be a thing over time..
Google number of cars in australia you get 20.14 million. 5% is 1 million Google Australia power grid size gw you get 30GW and 265,232 gigawatt hours (GWh) 1 tesla or leaf stores 50 to 100kwh each day, at 0.000,000,05GWh*365 that's 0.000,182,50GWh * 1 million cars that equals 182.5GWh yes, it's about 5 percent. but that's my calculation. The original reference was a study done by the AEMO, and of course the entire grid doesn't need to be stored and iirc they said we can go up to 70 percent renewable without any solar whatsoever but of course brainless petrol heads without a degree let alone a job in the power industry will tell you otherwise
electric cars charge and can power the grid at 50kw so times 1 million that's 50GW - almost double the entire grid capacity in Australia. and that's a low ball figure since bill shorten ran for pm there have been more and more 300kw stations (he said 6 minutes and 40kwh/300kw *60m is indeed about 8 minutes to charge) which times a million cars would be 10x the grid capacity. but the liars in the corrupt right wing media turned on that guy because he dared to say the truth about electric cars, which threaten their advertising customers
Energy production shouldn't be private, because they are always going to worry about profits, and if everyone gets solar on their house they are gonna lose a lot. If it's a government industry then they can just worry about making sure the grid can cope with household solar and just add extra rewewables for any extra power we need and batteries to help stabilize it all
You hear a lot about the damage global warming has on the great barrier reef and the problem global warming has with farms not getting enough rain and global warming increasing bush fires. Then you have the Australian government trying all it can to promote fossil fuels for cars and the coal and gas in the power grid. If the Australian government doesn't want to support green tech then then just put up all your bush fires and loosing the great barrier reef. And any farmers who's crops don't have enough water well bad luck. I hope the jobs in the battery industry go to any country outside Australia where that government wants to solve global warming. Same with jobs manufacturing solar panels.
That's what I call shooting yourself in the foot! Take away the tariff from the customer and force them to get a battery and then who's going to need the grid? Either I'm missing something here or they have a place up their sleeves that I'm not aware of.... Whatever their plans are, it's going to benefit them but the question is, what are they up to! They weren't born yesterday, if they didn't have a plan, do you really think that they would allow solar to get in the country let alone allow you to feed back into the grid and pay you for it?
@@stephenleyden9559 yeah that's great... But the question is why are we being allowed to? That's like the petroleum industry promoting a vehicle that has no need for their own products! Why would they do that? That's why I'm questioning the motives behind their actions... I smell a rat but I can't work out where or what it is...
@@jimlofts5433 hi and thanks for your reply. Well I’m not laughing at the situation we have found ourselves in and I didn’t vote for the incompetent useless corrupt donkeys that have failed you. I will continue to Vote Australian Greens because I care about everyone and all life in general. All the best to you and yours in the future. 🐸✌️
Just like the gov has the foresight to charge EV owners for using roads: The gov should charge people who have homes with solar, especially those with batteries, for not consuming coal and natural gas generated power. Compensate the power companies for lost revenue by the greedy homeowners dodging them. Greedy EV owners!
Yes and what about all those greedy people growing vegetables in their own gardens instead of buying them from the retailers. We should tax them so that those poor companies can be compensated.
From 'concerned citizen' (I will try this approach) I think bushfires in Australia, Brazil, America recently had the effect of a massive carbon dump into the stratosphere, that carbon has a much greater heat retention ratio When the carbon laced atmosphere in the equatorial areas that the atmosphere is more pressurised collectively picks up much more moisture and increases in its density and pressure than it would In initial conditions before that carbon dumb moves up and mixes with the lower temperatures and pressure atmosphere from the north on the onset of winter as those temperatures mixed the lower temperature atmosphere drops forving the higher temperature higher density moisture saturated air upwards with convection up very rapidly And as you can see That's what I think Ops wrong article
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For a country blessed with so much solar potential it's shameful it's not making the most of it.
Future Energy Exporter (Energy Cables to Singapore, and Hydrogen Production)
Per capita we already make the most. Sure we could be doing more because we have so much sun and space, but just balancing out the conversation with the fact that we already produce the most per person due to such high penetration of roof top solar. Now for the commercial sector to catch up.
We make the most of it better than any country on earth....
We should manufacture our own solar panels here.
It’s only fairly recent that solar is cost effective enough to be used on a large scale. Australia has played its part in a big way to making this a reality. The government doesn’t help with its communication as they are unable to talk straight to the public as they want to still sell and use coal and other fossil fuels. But policy has been in place which has allowed solar to become a part of the energy grid without causing problems in other parts of the economy.
At 3:40 you show a Tesla starting up & pulling away with an ICE CAR sound effect! WTF???
Telsla have added sound to the car when starting and driving. You can chose what it sounds like from a huge range and even upload your own sound. It's been made mandatory in Germany I think
@@grantbuttenshaw thankyou for the info👍
Yeah, I was a bit outraged🧐🤣
Makes sense to have some audio until EVs are the normal majority & then we all can actually hear EVs👍
Relaxed alfresco dining, watching & listening to the EVs rolling by🤘
@@grantbuttenshaw nonsense. The editing was what added the sound.
@@--Nath-- nothing I said was false...i.e. sense.
@@grantbuttenshaw that speaker is not present in Australian cars. So no tesla car in Australia is capable of revving up as per the video.
And just to clarify: that white tesla is an Australian car with right hand drive and an Australian number plate.
A most interesting story about renewable energy in Australia. It’s clear that governments must have a clear and integrated system approach and policies to support a renewable energy market. I hope that this channel follows up on the community battery project. As an interested Malaysian I would like to see this happening in my country but in a very informed way.
Knowing my government, instead of supporting renewables, they will continue to cater to the oil and gas industry lobbies and fight the change bitterly. They are already creating new taxes to put on electric vehicles owners where the rest of the world is giving rebates and fees and tax cuts to incentivise electric uptake. And some states have cut the credit they pay for solar energy upload to the grid to just 3 cents per kwh, 10% of what they charge for energy use from the grid. We have the best geography and position to take advantage of renewables in the world and there is huge support and drive for it in the public and businesses, we should be a world leader of renewables by miles. Instead we have politicians in charge who are actively hostile against it.
@@penitent2401 yes, the part about charging EV based on miles travel and the surprise from the industry was mentioned in the story. It’s an example of un-integrated administration of renewable energy. Australia has the talent to really be world class renewable energy leaders and are actually already showing what its capable of. Hope more of the right people step up and eventually the country gets the leadership it deserves. When that happens, the region will notice and will also benefit!
Funny, their’s an expectation that batteries are recycled. But NEVER the expectation that C02 is recaptured. What a pass for 100+ years.
It takes more energy to capture carbon than to leave it in the ground, its the laws of thermodynamics. You break the bonds it takes more to rebuild them if you do it chemically or with electricity.
Unless you means preserving mangroves, swamps, regrowing kelp etc, and forests is easier but we've destroyed so much already. And we don't know how to rebuild them and takes time to really sequester much. (As I understand it). But what might be required if we end up with run away CO2.
We need to leave fossil fuel in the ground and the only way and to get there, while preserving and increasing human standard of living, we need batteries, solar, wind, hydro, thermal, and nuclear in combination is the best solution.
CO2 capture is for now little more than a fantasy, the technology for it is inefficient or does more harm than good. With just one big exception, plant more trees, plants are the best and most proven at it, also the cheapest and most enviromentally friendly method. Unfortunately this is Australia where the clueless policicians get to do things their way. They are clearing vast swath of bush land and forrests and destroying natural wildlife habitats and pristine ecosystems to plant down wind turbines in the name of saving the environment. One step forward three steps back.
all we need to do is get multi national renewable companies to fund private schools, 10 or 20 years later all senior politicians will be highly in favour of renewables.
Victoria has NOT proposed road user charges because they have been in place for 6 months already.
The engine noise dubbed over the Tesla 😂
Wondered if anyone else caught that 😂 so dumb
ikr that was so stupid unless it was a joke
Why doesn't Sky News Australia run stories like this ?
Gee, I wonder.
Lithium is NOT a rare nor expensive material. It is abundant in the world, but not easy to harvest. Cobalt is, but is not so big part of batteries as it was in the past. But recycling is cheaper than mining... Toxic chemicals are in OLD batteries, like carbatteries and throwaway batteries. Ofcourse recycling is good, but Lithium-Ion and LFP are not as harmfull as PB-car batteries.
this oversight is appalling for such a long program
It's interesting how Australia is ahead of Southern California in terms of solar panels and it's flipped in terms of electric vehicles. On our small street we have 24 homes with 31 Tesla Model 3 or Y.
Why don't they just use the recycling facilities currently in use for cars, phones, hdtv, computers, printers, catalytic converters and nuclear power plants?
Oh.. because those facilities don't exist.
In regards to battery recycling. The best option, no regulation.... nice. Producers of goods need to be held accountable for what they produce and sell. Needs to be a part of the desgn of the good. Easy repair, reuse/recycle strategies that must be adhered to and checked. Not just a free lunch.
Kklk
@@elephantintheroom5678 Leave the door open for government and they'll always figure out a way to bleed a good thing dry.
You see, two can play this game.
@@elephantintheroom5678 Climate has always changed. They have found tropical fuana, woolly mammoths, along with alligators in places that have four seasons now, that where once covered with glaciers...
Environment changes and apparently always will weather we jump on one foot while rubbing our bellies or not
@@chasl3645 how cringe
@@jarrodchapman2011 Nothing "cringe" about it. It's simply been that way forever. Hope you feel better.
Credibility was lost to me when we heard the Tesla start it's engine at 3:49.
Yes, totally bizarre that they would add an engine sound, it shows the editor knows nothing about EVs, nor the producer of the segment. The ABC clearly has problems...
1. There should be a system to enable to charge the electric car from the house battery charged by solar.
2. If the price of the electricity purchased by the power companies is slashing why it is not being reduced for us consumers.
Solar is produced in the middle of the day, when no one uses it. There's a small spike in the mornings when people wake up, but it's evening when the demand for energy is at its peak, and solar produces nothing then. Not that difficult to understand, is it?
@@S2Tubes Midday is actually the time all the aircons are being used and even then the electricity price isnt all that much different while the solar producers have their rates slashed.
1. I think they mentioned that what the lady near the end was doing via AGL. 2. The issue is costs for providers is increasing (building transformers, power lines etc etc.) as that is there responsibility with the privatized system, they are still ripping us off but.
@@drpk6514 Midday is not the peak power usage. It's less than the mornings as people wake up, and much less than evenings as they get home. Take a look at any power usage chart by hour, and see for yourself.
The problem with solar is twofold, first, it produces power when no one wants it. Second, now that everyone has solar, there's an excess that is actually detrimental to the grid in some cases. Batteries solve all these problems, but no one wants to buy batteries.
@@S2Tubes 1st when did I say its pick hour? 2nd the power consumption is higher at the workplace than homes.
I clearly said if there is too much supply and the companies which buy them has slash the price,then why it is not provided to the consumers with a slashed price?
Is there any solar or battery cell manufacturing in Australia?
Vanadium flow batteries are built here but they aren't economically viable yet and take up a lot of room. Good for properties when the price goes down and they are recyclable, scalable, no safety issues and don't have the nasties that lithium does.
Tindo makes PV in Adelaide
Is there any demand for paying twice as much for them in Australia? No? Then no.
Not anymore… 20 years ago we were in the box seat but all that expertise went to China
Make it all in Australia, batteries, panels, new and emerging tech - but by properly funding the CSIRO, the inventor of wi-fi!
We could've done that 10 years ago but we scrapped the ETS and twiddled our thumbs for the next 10 years while other countries did just that
@@patrickegan8866 yeah very sad to have watched happen
“Regulatory Stick” is exactly what’s needed!
great content thanks
Vote Australian Greens and get the future you deserve.
You don’t need lithium for household storage batteries
Poles and wires.... There a Hamster wheel segment based on this. Lol
Poles and wires paid for by taxpayers for the benefit of rich power companies
How much of energy produced will need to be used to cool the battery banks?
Australia is way ahead of NZ in terms of solar. It’s awesome to see such a move. Hopefully policies in NZ will encourage instalment of solar and energy storage seems (either lithium-ion or alternatives like flow batteries, molten salt etc)
What a beauty.
3:48 That tesla has a V8 under the hood by the sounds of it.
Rich rebuilds has a v8 tesla called ICE-T. :) Must have been touring Australia.
Individuals shouldn't be the ones fronting the cost for solar power and solar storage. The entire electricity grid needs to be nationalised if you want REAL steps to be taken in moving towards renewables. Solar panels and storage shouldn't be on homes, built in this haphazard network of people who can afford it. They should be in large battery plants and solar farms where specialised staff and engineers can safely work with these batteries. If everyone has enormous LI ION batteries in their homes you're going to have a lot more house fires.
Also: Private electricity companies are chasing profits and having Individuals generate their own power is a threat to that so they will hamstring it as much as they can. If you were to nationalise them so they weren't chasing profits they will not be hamstringing renewables.
TL;DR nationalise the energy grid, and have solar farms and battery plants rather than sticking it in people's houses.
Totally agree. NATIONALIZE the energy system.
Based.
The ABC needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants tress
I would be able to afford a new electric Ute if it was a bit cheaper. You have to buy solar at the same time too.
the battery should be kept indoors in a cool moisture free enviroment..
Those drill jockeys are learned men of principle
So if they’re wanting to charge home owners for supplying electricity when there is an over supply ,will they do the same to coal and gas power plants to have an equal market?
There already is a mechanism in place- the wholesale price of electricity. When there is an oversupply, it will drop and in come cases be negative, which makes it uneconomical to produce and supply energy and incentivises producers to turn off production if they are able to.
@@kaiviti81 true , however in this system , a coal power plant could actively over supply power and just get a slightly low price , but actively effect a penalty on roof top solar owners .
Interesting - not a pessimist, but it might be a good idea to think very carefully about the environmental footprint of the Battery industry end to end before jumping in boots and all. It may end up not being quite as green s as we may think now. Perhaps at the end of the day something like hydrogen might work out to be a better solution…
Yeah I don't think people quite realise how many more batteries we will be making to accommodate a fully solar grid and a full EV car infrastructure. I've always advocated for having electric trains and rail instead of EVs so our resources are used more efficiently, and so we stop building cars (cars electric and petrol are bad for the environment, EVs are better but they are still also very bad for the environment)
@@AnxiousEducator Mass transport systems will always be a better solution than “individual” transport solutions.
@@mwmentor yeah it's really frustrating when all the coverage is on EVs and individual "solutions" (That aren't really solutions).
I just want adequate public transport and to not have to spend thousands maintaining a car... to much to ask for I guess
I think people need to understand that batteries and probably even solar are not good for the environment. They are just much less bad than fossil fuels. You still need mining, refining, then transporting and producing the goods, all of which is very energy intensive. Now if all our energy was renewable it wouldn't be as big of a deal, it's just getting to that point that takes time, and right now if we want to produce green projects we have to at least partly use fossil fuels for generating the energy needed as well as transporting the minerals or products around the world. So we should definitely pursue renewables but we'll have to find ways of reducing their impact along the way because we don't really have the time to keep using fossil fuels until we find a perfect solution, which probably doesn't even exist.
Were the planet not already in a crisis from fossil fuel burning - you might have a point. But we are long past that point. And even with no recycling/reusing (unlikely) - it is still worth it due to the increased efficiency, zero tailpipe emissions and ability to be powered by renewables.
Government needs to step in and heavy the cost of solar and batteries!
it's a shame that there's energy driven poverty in Australia with all solar potential
dont allow greedy corporations to control renewables
The problem is that the norm is to turn a blind eye to anything which does not provide a direct benefit. That is human nature which has to be identified
Your human nature claim is debunked by millions of people who are not invested in myopic individualism and live and vote for collectivism
@@stephenleyden9559 I don’t think you understand. It’s common for most to turn a blind eye to the homeless, violence, general mistreatment. People won’t like it but won’t get involved because there is no direct benefit in doing so. It’s normal human behaviour. It’s this behaviour which allows industry such as the meat industry to exist. The bulk of people will think it’s wrong but say nothing because that is the direct benefit to the individual. Whatever you said sounds like the opposite of what actually goes on.
@@tigertoo01 that was just incoherent nonsense,
@@stephenleyden9559 you display typical human behaviour. Your one of the masses.
@@tigertoo01 you have the intellectual capacity of a 12 year-old.
NSW makes illegal electric/hybrid powered skateboards, scooters and bikes it would be fair to say progress is extremely slow from a public perspective.
so you have to much energy and to many batteries from used electric vehicles? 🤔 anyone else see a solution there?
So the Tesla's engine starts and revs...please sound guy let's not mislead!
Put EV chargers where the cars are parked when the sun is up.
Wow, the comments are actually on for a change
a 30 minutes program and not a single mention of how having only 5 percent of cats be electric v2g is equal to double what the entire grid would need to store renewable energy
There's a lot of energy goes into petrol/diesel pumping, refining, transporting. And not sure where you get your stats - the grid can and has grown historically by many times to accommodate things like fridges, aircon, aluminium smelters (10% of some states are just one smelter!), home appliances galore. With cheap, distributed renewables - many households are getting rate limited for feed in anyhow (due to the grid refusing to allow bigger systems) - if that can go to a car battery or home battery instead then it is not getting wasted.
Also: vehicle to grid will likely be a thing over time..
Google number of cars in australia you get 20.14 million. 5% is 1 million
Google Australia power grid size gw you get 30GW and 265,232 gigawatt hours (GWh)
1 tesla or leaf stores 50 to 100kwh each day, at 0.000,000,05GWh*365 that's 0.000,182,50GWh * 1 million cars that equals 182.5GWh
yes, it's about 5 percent. but that's my calculation. The original reference was a study done by the AEMO, and of course the entire grid doesn't need to be stored and iirc they said we can go up to 70 percent renewable without any solar whatsoever
but of course brainless petrol heads without a degree let alone a job in the power industry will tell you otherwise
electric cars charge and can power the grid at 50kw so times 1 million that's 50GW - almost double the entire grid capacity in Australia.
and that's a low ball figure
since bill shorten ran for pm there have been more and more 300kw stations (he said 6 minutes and 40kwh/300kw *60m is indeed about 8 minutes to charge) which times a million cars would be 10x the grid capacity.
but the liars in the corrupt right wing media turned on that guy because he dared to say the truth about electric cars, which threaten their advertising customers
Energy production shouldn't be private, because they are always going to worry about profits, and if everyone gets solar on their house they are gonna lose a lot. If it's a government industry then they can just worry about making sure the grid can cope with household solar and just add extra rewewables for any extra power we need and batteries to help stabilize it all
Kinda think this didn’t really ‘promote’ the move to more sustainable approaches to energy and transport - is there an agenda here?
The Sydney Report.
You hear a lot about the damage global warming has on the great barrier reef and the problem global warming has with farms not getting enough rain and global warming increasing bush fires.
Then you have the Australian government trying all it can to promote fossil fuels for cars and the coal and gas in the power grid.
If the Australian government doesn't want to support green tech then then just put up all your bush fires and loosing the great barrier reef. And any farmers who's crops don't have enough water well bad luck.
I hope the jobs in the battery industry go to any country outside Australia where that government wants to solve global warming. Same with jobs manufacturing solar panels.
Godbless
we need the aid of robots to help compete!!!
That's what I call shooting yourself in the foot!
Take away the tariff from the customer and force them to get a battery and then who's going to need the grid?
Either I'm missing something here or they have a place up their sleeves that I'm not aware of.... Whatever their plans are, it's going to benefit them but the question is, what are they up to! They weren't born yesterday, if they didn't have a plan, do you really think that they would allow solar to get in the country let alone allow you to feed back into the grid and pay you for it?
Self sustainability, sounds good to me.
@@stephenleyden9559 yeah that's great... But the question is why are we being allowed to?
That's like the petroleum industry promoting a vehicle that has no need for their own products! Why would they do that?
That's why I'm questioning the motives behind their actions... I smell a rat but I can't work out where or what it is...
Vote Australian Greens and get commonsense.
haha
@@jimlofts5433 hi and thanks for your reply. Well I’m not laughing at the situation we have found ourselves in and I didn’t vote for the incompetent useless corrupt donkeys that have failed you. I will continue to Vote Australian Greens because I care about everyone and all life in general.
All the best to you and yours in the future. 🐸✌️
Thanks for the extra tax Dan!
Catch fire! Not catch on fire. There was a time when the ABC could speak English.
Just like the gov has the foresight to charge EV owners for using roads: The gov should charge people who have homes with solar, especially those with batteries, for not consuming coal and natural gas generated power. Compensate the power companies for lost revenue by the greedy homeowners dodging them.
Greedy EV owners!
So you want me to subsidise your use of fossil fuels? Sounds like socialism, champ lol
Yes and what about all those greedy people growing vegetables in their own gardens instead of buying them from the retailers. We should tax them so that those poor companies can be compensated.
germany is beholden to russia go green
Battery for cars is shit, electric cars are shit.
Wow, you sound like a real expert, ever driven an EV? I have, I own one, and once you have you will realise it's ICE cars that are shit...
@@ledsalesoz Only dumb asses buy EVs.
From 'concerned citizen'
(I will try this approach)
I think bushfires in Australia, Brazil, America recently had the effect of a massive carbon dump into the stratosphere, that carbon has a much greater heat retention ratio
When the carbon laced atmosphere in the equatorial areas that the atmosphere is more pressurised collectively picks up much more moisture and increases in its density and pressure than it would In initial conditions before that carbon dumb moves up and mixes with the lower temperatures and pressure atmosphere from the north on the onset of winter as those temperatures mixed the lower temperature atmosphere drops forving the higher temperature higher density moisture saturated air upwards with convection up very rapidly
And as you can see
That's what I think
Ops wrong article
what bs there is no overall recall except for 1 car maker in aus, hybrids are not EVs fgs do your research, total lazy journalism