Yes, the Valley Vet clinic has asked and emailed many times about the dire need for a turn lane or flashing lights. ODOT is obviously not concerned with two people and their dog getting killed on Friday morning because of their lack of caring. There needs to be some changes in the ODOT hierarchy and some new management for starters. 😢
@@codymoe4986 Or a bit of both. ODOT is supposed to at least assess the potential hazard and all indications atm is they didn't. But ya, ppl see a straight stretch of "highway" and decide to gun it, usually while doing something else that takes their attention from the road.
This is a horrible and needless tragedy. The woman from the veterinary clinic added a human connection of genuine feeling, frequently lost by just the facts type reporting. The value of human life takes a back seat over other priorities when people get in their cars these days.
Very well stated. I was hit head-on while stopped at a red! She didn't give a crap about me. The passenger made sure I was okay and said this wasn't her first. People are just getting so inpatient and feeling entitled of their anger. People are distracted, and people lately have a mindset of pure stupidity. Put them in the drivers seat, and you got a nightmare on wheels. And the consequences for these people are not tough enough.
@@ameliawilder28 Thank you. I am glad you're ok from your accident experience and hope it never happens to you again. The roads have become scary these days and we should not have to play Russian roulette every time we get in to over vehicles to go to the store or take a road trip. Be Safe.
Never turn your wheels while waiting to make a turn until it is time to go. If you keep your wheels straight you won’t be pushed into oncoming traffic in the event of a rear end collision.
Yep, my Dad taught me that when I was first learning to drive. It’s not foolproof, but it definitively lowers the probability of being pushed into oncoming lanes.
Yes, also asshole people pulling out in front of you when you have the right of way. See it all the time through Scappoose. Then there's the gangs of super cars and motorcycles speeding (like 2x limit) through scappoose-vernonia highway, especially on weekends.
Yet another hwy 30 crash, 1 almost daily in the summer sometimes 2x a day. I drive this hwy to wrk and i worry. The speed limit is 55. Yet people go 70 an over then pass recklessly. No care fo themselves or others
Please be careful. Don't let aggressive drivers push you into driving a way you're not comfortable or feel unsafe. Drive with your headlights on, and double, or triple tap your brake lights to wake the driver behind you when you need to slow or stop. Sun angles and bad weather only make things that much worse.
Lived in the area for decades. Hwy 30 has been "death alley" for as long as I can remember. When my kids were inexperienced drivers I forbade them to travel on 30. Lots of drivers going wayyyyy too fast. Head-on collisions are common due to people taking excessive risks while passing slower cars. And left-turn crashes as mentioned in this story. And, often, rain and fog adding to the problems
All of Hwy 30 is dangerous! People swerve in and out of lanes without signaling every day. There is a lot of road rage with impatient drivers gesturing, yelling while leaning out of windows at other cars. It is especially bad in the Linnton area past the SJ Bridge, where the speed limit is 35 mph for a stretch and then 40 mph, but no one obeys it. If we want to turn into a business and are signalling prior to turning, drivers honk and speed past anyway. We need way more enforcement, better lane change options, more traffic lights.
there is such a huge gap where government officials are just clueless about the needs of the people...This is a clear issue that has cost lives...do your damn jobs and make this safer for people
Coming from Cleveland, Ohio *Oregon drivers are the worst I've seen ( No Emergency Right-of-Way, No regard for Bikers or Walkers) Lessons need to be more stringent!
My plan to prevent accidents is 1. add traffic lights 2. add a Divided Highway 3. add more restrictions on street racing 4. reduce the amount of people Who drive cars on the road so that other cars are not crowding the other cars 5. Make some Encouragements for people to use public transit by expanding Columbia County Ridership.
Add more restrictions on street racing? You state that though street racing is permitted under certain conditions, you need to rethink that one. The existing laws are adequate if people would only adhere to them, and enforce the laws with stiffer fines for those who don't. Reduce the number of people, make sure you are ready to be the first to sign up for that plan.
@@VulcanAvenger When there’s a campaign to enforce traffic laws, the scofflaws are constantly beaching about it’s just about revenue. We should fine repeat offenders out of their vehicles.
@@timdowney6721 I know you have strong feelings about this subject and that's good. If the current traffic laws were enforced, given there are enough police to do it, repeat offenders would be ticketed and the increase in fines and insurance would wake some people up. Continuous Driver Public Safety Campaigns with a serious tone can reduce the mayhem on our roads. You're on the right track, but your ideas need to be something people can buy into.
I understand your analogy, but unlike guns, it falls short in reality. Some roads and highways are poorly designed and definitely contribute to accidents. Yes, it is true that competent driving with situational awareness can overcome many of these shortcomings, but not always. As drivers ourselves we are dependent on other drivers to think clearly and that they have good driving skills By simply paying attention to what you are doing goes a long way. Take care and be safe out there.
It's all the government "lunch a doodles" that AREN'T WORKING!!! This is something that they are all accountable for. It was an avoidable accident and the government officials were ASLEEP ON THE JOB THAT TAX PAYERS ARE PAYING THEM TO DO!!! It's just sad!!! R.I.P to the people that died and their little puppy. Welll wishes for smooth recoveries for the other people and comfort for all those traumatized by it.
Sounds about right for OR. There are off ramps on the 5 south. That back up into the slow lane of the freeway everyday. It seems they think stoplights are a huge hurdle.
Humans trying to drive is hilarious... Automobiles are for a higer form of life... But rando nothing humans discovered how to play with it. I know, I know... "My uncle is Mario Andretti, and I have never made a mistake driving... I'm the best driver ever!!!" -every human driver in the world, the second they are handed a license for showing up and having a pulse.
@@codymoe4986 Accidents are up while fatalities are down... They have literally tried to idiot-proof cars, hundreds of thousands of times since their creation, and have settled on just making them safer... basically, geriatric them, so the special humans don't get hurt. Please do go on about how you are the worlds best driver, or whatever.
I live in Hood River. The weekends are an onslaught of aggressive and entitled drivers making their weekly exodus out the Gorge. The speed limit is posted at 20 mph through town and 25 in outlying areas central to town. People running stop signs, driving 40-50 mph, texting, parking in private lots, without a sign of cops running radar EVER. The Hood River police dept. win awards for their drunk driving patrols at night. If they would only do something about the risk of aggressive drivers and speeding drivers in the Heights and all roads that lead into downtown during the day/nights. Not speeding takes a commitment. Situational awareness. . Use some self restraint and some respect for the posted speed limit , other people, pets, road workers, bicyclists, etc. on the roads and sidewalks around you. It is up to you to drive responsibly. Don't speed!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for the lives. I live very close to this place they need to relocate the business. Very bad place I been in the area for 23 years my people have gotten hit .don't go there it's expensive and poor care for your pet and livestock.
@KGWNews8. East of Rainer? Nope it's west of Rainier. I live in Rainier and know the dangers of Highway 30. There is a lot of aggressive driving on this road. Part of the problem is the location of the clinic being in a rural area where no other businesses are located. After this accident I drove up to this location, knowing it was coming and it still caught me off guard due to the trees that hide the business.
Since the left turn is so dangerous, maybe drivers need to figure out how to enter that clinic only with a right turn, even if it means going beyond the clinic and using a safer exit/off ramp to the right and looping back around if that is an option?
If you expect your one party bureaucracy to be responsive, or concerned, you are living a dream. Privileged government employees that can't be fired pretty much makes that improbable.
It is a highway, with highway speeds of 55 mph. Don't make a left turn without a turn lane on a busy highway. Go to a safe spot and turn around, enter the business with a right turn! The business needs to put up a sign "No Left Turn." Or move their business. It's dangerous enough in a 35 mph zone to try and turn left without a turn lane and just expect others behind you to stop or go around you if the road is wide enough, but at 55 mph it's insane and asking to get rear ended hard!
@@ediewall6360 why would taxpayers need to subsidize this business by changing the road. That is a high speed expressway. The business can move 1000 yards to the East or 2000 yards to the West to the crossroads with turn lanes.
The only improvement funding available is improvement in DEI and retirement. Sadly highway 30 along with hundreds of others have seldom seen any change from there original design.
They've been petitioning for a turn lane there for a LONG time! This tragedy didn't need to happen. It could have been avoided.
ODOT should be ashamed, this is their road
Yes, the Valley Vet clinic has asked and emailed many times about the dire need for a turn lane or flashing lights. ODOT is obviously not concerned with two people and their dog getting killed on Friday morning because of their lack of caring. There needs to be some changes in the ODOT hierarchy and some new management for starters. 😢
Lack of a turn lane didn't cause this, stupid drivers caused this.
@@codymoe4986 Or a bit of both. ODOT is supposed to at least assess the potential hazard and all indications atm is they didn't. But ya, ppl see a straight stretch of "highway" and decide to gun it, usually while doing something else that takes their attention from the road.
This is a horrible and needless tragedy. The woman from the veterinary clinic added a human connection of genuine feeling, frequently lost by just the facts type reporting. The value of human life takes a back seat over other priorities when people get in their cars these days.
Very well stated. I was hit head-on while stopped at a red! She didn't give a crap about me. The passenger made sure I was okay and said this wasn't her first.
People are just getting so inpatient and feeling entitled of their anger. People are distracted, and people lately have a mindset of pure stupidity. Put them in the drivers seat, and you got a nightmare on wheels.
And the consequences for these people are not tough enough.
@@ameliawilder28 Thank you. I am glad you're ok from your accident experience and hope it never happens to you again. The roads have become scary these days and we should not have to play Russian roulette every time we get in to over vehicles to go to the store or take a road trip. Be Safe.
Never turn your wheels while waiting to make a turn until it is time to go. If you keep your wheels straight you won’t be pushed into oncoming traffic in the event of a rear end collision.
Excellent information 👍 TY
Yep, my Dad taught me that when I was first learning to drive.
It’s not foolproof, but it definitively lowers the probability of being pushed into oncoming lanes.
hey dont pass along useful info plz this is the internet
People are so aggressive when driving there. It happens so often we see near misses because of asshole drivers.
Yes, also asshole people pulling out in front of you when you have the right of way. See it all the time through Scappoose. Then there's the gangs of super cars and motorcycles speeding (like 2x limit) through scappoose-vernonia highway, especially on weekends.
please slow down, roads are not race tracks
Same thing happened to my uncle 20 years ago. It was at Tide Crk rd and Hwy30. Not a new problem .
Was your uncle ok? My friend lives off of Tide Creek
So very sad. Absolutely horrific
Yet another hwy 30 crash, 1 almost daily in the summer sometimes 2x a day. I drive this hwy to wrk and i worry. The speed limit is 55. Yet people go 70 an over then pass recklessly. No care fo themselves or others
Please be careful. Don't let aggressive drivers push you into driving a way you're not comfortable or feel unsafe. Drive with your headlights on, and double, or triple tap your brake lights to wake the driver behind you when you need to slow or stop. Sun angles and bad weather only make things that much worse.
People follow way to close and don’t pay attention. Fines and penalties need to be stiffer.
Lived in the area for decades. Hwy 30 has been "death alley" for as long as I can remember. When my kids were inexperienced drivers I forbade them to travel on 30. Lots of drivers going wayyyyy too fast. Head-on collisions are common due to people taking excessive risks while passing slower cars. And left-turn crashes as mentioned in this story. And, often, rain and fog adding to the problems
All of Hwy 30 is dangerous! People swerve in and out of lanes without signaling every day. There is a lot of road rage with impatient drivers gesturing, yelling while leaning out of windows at other cars. It is especially bad in the Linnton area past the SJ Bridge, where the speed limit is 35 mph for a stretch and then 40 mph, but no one obeys it. If we want to turn into a business and are signalling prior to turning, drivers honk and speed past anyway. We need way more enforcement, better lane change options, more traffic lights.
Everyone complains but they'll still speed.
It's so awful and preventable.
there is such a huge gap where government officials are just clueless about the needs of the people...This is a clear issue that has cost lives...do your damn jobs and make this safer for people
How about the people do their jobs and pay attention on the roads?
Coming from Cleveland, Ohio *Oregon drivers are the worst I've seen ( No Emergency Right-of-Way, No regard for Bikers or Walkers) Lessons need to be more stringent!
They drive in the left-hand passing lane with a finger up their ass oblivious to everything going on around them fully displaying their stupidity.
Coming from Phoenix and San Deigo, I agree. I can't go 2 miles without an incident, when you're worse than California! There's a problem.
My plan to prevent accidents is
1. add traffic lights
2. add a Divided Highway
3. add more restrictions on street racing
4. reduce the amount of people
Who drive cars on the road so that other cars are not crowding the other cars
5. Make some Encouragements for people to use public transit by expanding Columbia County Ridership.
make it so only the rich can afford to driver? depopulation plan? You sound just like Klause Schwab and the WEF.
Add more restrictions on street racing? You state that though street racing is permitted under certain conditions, you need to rethink that one. The existing laws are adequate if people would only adhere to them, and enforce the laws with stiffer fines for those who don't. Reduce the number of people, make sure you are ready to be the first to sign up for that plan.
@@VulcanAvenger
When there’s a campaign to enforce traffic laws, the scofflaws are constantly beaching about it’s just about revenue.
We should fine repeat offenders out of their vehicles.
@@timdowney6721 I know you have strong feelings about this subject and that's good. If the current traffic laws were enforced, given there are enough police to do it, repeat offenders would be ticketed and the increase in fines and insurance would wake some people up. Continuous Driver Public Safety Campaigns with a serious tone can reduce the mayhem on our roads. You're on the right track, but your ideas need to be something people can buy into.
Well. Then please get a job at ODOT!!! WE NEED YOU! because the ones they have there now don't give a damn!!!
I really hope they keep investigating and something gets changed. The fact that it is a very dangerous hwy seems to get ignored which just baffles me!
Most N American traffic engineers still think back in the 1950s. 😡
No money
No reason to make changes.
Politicians
Thank you for covering this needed change.
Roads are not dangerous, people are.
People gauge their speed and other driving behavior based on road design.
So, yes, roads can be dangerous.
I understand your analogy, but unlike guns, it falls short in reality. Some roads and highways are poorly designed and definitely contribute to accidents. Yes, it is true that competent driving with situational awareness can overcome many of these shortcomings, but not always. As drivers ourselves we are dependent on other drivers to think clearly and that they have good driving skills By simply paying attention to what you are doing goes a long way. Take care and be safe out there.
It's all the government "lunch a doodles" that AREN'T WORKING!!!
This is something that they are all accountable for. It was an avoidable accident and the government officials were ASLEEP ON THE JOB THAT TAX PAYERS ARE PAYING THEM TO DO!!!
It's just sad!!! R.I.P to the people that died and their little puppy. Welll wishes for smooth recoveries for the other people and comfort for all those traumatized by it.
Sounds about right for OR. There are off ramps on the 5 south. That back up into the slow lane of the freeway everyday. It seems they think stoplights are a huge hurdle.
Humans trying to drive is hilarious...
Automobiles are for a higer form of life... But rando nothing humans discovered how to play with it.
I know, I know... "My uncle is Mario Andretti, and I have never made a mistake driving... I'm the best driver ever!!!"
-every human driver in the world, the second they are handed a license for showing up and having a pulse.
Says the guy who doesn't have a license.
P.S. Driving your entire life, accident free, has been achieved millions and millions of times.
Try again.
@@codymoe4986 Accidents are up while fatalities are down...
They have literally tried to idiot-proof cars, hundreds of thousands of times since their creation, and have settled on just making them safer... basically, geriatric them, so the special humans don't get hurt.
Please do go on about how you are the worlds best driver, or whatever.
I live in Hood River. The weekends are an onslaught of aggressive and entitled drivers making their weekly exodus out the Gorge. The speed limit is posted at 20 mph through town and 25 in outlying areas central to town. People running stop signs, driving 40-50 mph, texting, parking in private lots, without a sign of cops running radar EVER. The Hood River police dept. win awards for their drunk driving patrols at night. If they would only do something about the risk of aggressive drivers and speeding drivers in the Heights and all roads that lead into downtown during the day/nights. Not speeding takes a commitment. Situational awareness. . Use some self restraint and some respect for the posted speed limit , other people, pets, road workers, bicyclists, etc. on the roads and sidewalks around you. It is up to you to drive responsibly. Don't speed!!!!!!!!!!!!
You telling me the Oregon transportation didn't know, stopping on a single lane busy Highway was Deadly ??
It isn't deadly if the folks following you aren't driving with their heads up their asses.
🙏
Sorry for the lives. I live very close to this place they need to relocate the business. Very bad place I been in the area for 23 years my people have gotten hit .don't go there it's expensive and poor care for your pet and livestock.
@KGWNews8. East of Rainer? Nope it's west of Rainier. I live in Rainier and know the dangers of Highway 30. There is a lot of aggressive driving on this road. Part of the problem is the location of the clinic being in a rural area where no other businesses are located. After this accident I drove up to this location, knowing it was coming and it still caught me off guard due to the trees that hide the business.
Odot is just a pathetic bureaucracy, always reactive instead of proactive
Since the left turn is so dangerous, maybe drivers need to figure out how to enter that clinic only with a right turn, even if it means going beyond the clinic and using a safer exit/off ramp to the right and looping back around if that is an option?
Victim blaming at its finest 👌
Sometimes people are new and don't realize what a crap shoot of an organization ODOT is!!!
If you expect your one party bureaucracy to be responsive, or concerned, you are living a dream. Privileged government employees that can't be fired pretty much makes that improbable.
Unfortunately, you're right and that's so f'ng SAD
It is a highway, with highway speeds of 55 mph. Don't make a left turn without a turn lane on a busy highway. Go to a safe spot and turn around, enter the business with a right turn! The business needs to put up a sign "No Left Turn." Or move their business. It's dangerous enough in a 35 mph zone to try and turn left without a turn lane and just expect others behind you to stop or go around you if the road is wide enough, but at 55 mph it's insane and asking to get rear ended hard!
A business can't regulate the turns or the speed limit. This was distracted driving.
Other don'ts....
Don't rearend a car, waiting to make a left turn.
People texting!
So sad, Im friends with Bridgots Daughter Helen, just a sad story.
Washington 18 sucks even worse.
That business needs to move elsewhere.
That is not a good solution.
@@ediewall6360 why would taxpayers need to subsidize this business by changing the road. That is a high speed expressway. The business can move 1000 yards to the East or 2000 yards to the West to the crossroads with turn lanes.
The only improvement funding available is improvement in DEI and retirement. Sadly highway 30 along with hundreds of others have seldom seen any change from there original design.
Left turns should not be allowed on freeways like this. It`s a stupid design. And if the vet clinic is so concerned with safety then move!
Stupid reply.
What a way to discount the majorities situation and feelings. I wouldn't claim bragging rights unless your sadistic.
Freeway??
With yellow lines and 2 lanes of opposing traffic??
That is not a good answer.