That's great to hear, and as you can see..... we are very fond of them too! It's really exciting to see all the incredible variation and break throughs in breeding that our talented and skilled plant breeders are coming forward with, so congratulations on your achievements thus far, but keep your spades and shovels handy because in our trials we are seeing some amazing new ones that if they continue to perform will add even more to your enjoyment and pleasure. Presumably you are subscribed to our channel? If not, it might worth considering it because we are posting new videos all the time, including several more on Echinaceas of various sorts. Also if you don't mind, it would be great if you could kindly click the "like" icon too or any of our videos that you think deserve it, because that will help other people find the information too.
I appreciate your comment on wet winters made to another commenter. My Cheyenne Spirit comes back, but the clumps haven’t really increased in size. I’m in pnw 8b and grow several plants that would be hardy here if they survived our wet winters, but I didn’t know coneflowers were on that list. They’ll definitely get sited better this spring. Thank you.
Thank you for letting us know. In our trials, we've consistently found that those that are growing in well-drained sites do better, so it will be interesting for you to do some experiments! We often overlook with herbaceous plants (ones that die down in winter) that it is the parts beneath the soil surface that determines how well the overall performance is. Happy roots make healthy, vigorous plants!🤣
I love the coneflower however pollinators do not even touch these, I have bees and butterflies of all kinds but none have even approached this navitar and bought 6 of them
Here on the nursery, our butterflies, bees and pollinating insects don't seem to be so discriminatory. As long as there's nectar rich flowers, we regularly see plenty of flurries of activity. Only to be extended by the joyous delight of seeing little Goldfinches feeding on the seeds on any left over plants.
Thanks for asking but that would be a VERY long video (we grow over 2,000 varieties)! By scrolling through our channel (and subscribing to it) viewers are able to access many of the proven performers (for the Mid-Atlantic and Northeastern region) of the USA, and be in line to view all the new videos that we are posting all the time. Because we film most of the videos in different parts of our nursery, you can also get a good representation of the way we grow and prepare them for shipping to our garden center partners, and ultimately to beautify and enrich the lives of everyone who plants them in their home gardens.😉✔👍
Bought 15 gallon pots of Cheyenne Spirit Echinacea last summer, 20121, and only one is starting to show any new growth now at the middle of April. My Echinacea Magnus and one other lighter pink, have all started producing new foliage and spreading from their root ball area. Does Cheyenne Spirit come up later than other taller varieties? All have full sun and good soil and drainage.
Our Cheyenne Spirit plants are all up and showing new growth like the one you mention. In our experience, they emerge about the same time as most of the other sorts.
I planted some of these in the summer of 2020 and they were so beautiful. I think mine didn't get enough sun, though, and I think they underperformed and didn't return strongly in 2021.
They are sun lovers 🌞so that could be, but it might also be connected with drainage (especially when dormant in winter and early spring, after snow melt). Many times, we don't realize that soils lie excessively wet during dormant periods and then when the drier weather and the demands for growth in spring arrives, the roots are not in a position to support that, and they come thin and weak (or not at all)! That's why in this video (and several others), I stress the importance of good drainage. The site can look OK during the summer and fall but may be too wet in winter. I would encourage you to investigate if there's a better drained, sunny spot or perhaps even create an elevated or raised bed so that you can get better results with this exciting selection. 😉
@@OverdevestNurseries Wow, I am so grateful for your thorough reply! I will definitely check that out! We only get one or two inches of snow per year where I am but we do get quite a bit of rain and the area, not being in the sun, might very well be staying wet more than I think. Thank you so much for the advice and I will really look into that!
I've had mine for 2 growing seasons and find them to be as beautiful as you described! I think I have to move them from where they are as its become more shaded from other plants.
That makes sense✔, and it would probably be good to divide (split) them too👌! That will help to keep them growing vigorously and of course give you more plants too. 😁
Since our experience is centered here in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeastern region: grownbyoverdevest.com/retail-locator/ we are not really qualified to answer your question definitively, so we suggest you contact your local garden center and check with them. We know that (once established) they thrive in the heat of summer so you have that going for them but your humidity is another matter, so that's why it will be important for you to check with your local experts. We hope you'll be encouraged to try them because they are so incredibly beautiful and rewarding to grow and we LOVE them here our region.
I don’t see any insects/pollinators . I guess they have to use insecticides on them. 😢 - edit: looks like they have pollinators if you see their other videos 😬😅
It's a shame you haven't been able to see any of our videos yet with insects and pollinators in them yet! Because, one of the joys we have working in the nursery, is watching them busy at work, flitting back and forth from plant to plant, and sometimes even making appearances that we don't even notice until the videos are posted or someone notices them, and points them out! For instance here's a link to video: ruclips.net/video/5-wmyYA56qI/видео.html on a really lovely Butterfly Bush (Buddleia 'Prince Charming') with a Silver-spotted Skipper showing up around the 1 minute mark, and if you notice the thumbnail image that introduces this video, you will see that just as we were beginning to film that segment, a beautiful swallowtail landed on the same plant too. Then just last week, to our delight (because its very important to us), a viewer (Leslie Hardin) spotted a Preying Mantis in another of our videos entitled "As Promised.... An Update on "How To Prune Tree Form Panicle Hydrangeas" // How Did It Turn Out? She kindly posted a note to say that "At 1:21 there is a praying mantis 😮 on the top left bloom. Lovely!" Here is the link, to see if you can spot it too: ruclips.net/video/xYJFQ_u4Xq4/видео.html Perhaps, if you get a few minutes you might like to scroll through some of our other videos, and be able to enjoy watching them too!
Coneflowers are my favorite! Have a big variety of them in my flower beds.
That's great to hear, and as you can see..... we are very fond of them too!
It's really exciting to see all the incredible variation and break throughs in breeding that our talented and skilled plant breeders are coming forward with, so congratulations on your achievements thus far, but keep your spades and shovels handy because in our trials we are seeing some amazing new ones that if they continue to perform will add even more to your enjoyment and pleasure.
Presumably you are subscribed to our channel? If not, it might worth considering it because we are posting new videos all the time, including several more on Echinaceas of various sorts. Also if you don't mind, it would be great if you could kindly click the "like" icon too or any of our videos that you think deserve it, because that will help other people find the information too.
I appreciate your comment on wet winters made to another commenter. My Cheyenne Spirit comes back, but the clumps haven’t really increased in size. I’m in pnw 8b and grow several plants that would be hardy here if they survived our wet winters, but I didn’t know coneflowers were on that list. They’ll definitely get sited better this spring. Thank you.
I really appreciated his thorough comment! I'm going to look into it.
Thank you for letting us know. In our trials, we've consistently found that those that are growing in well-drained sites do better, so it will be interesting for you to do some experiments! We often overlook with herbaceous plants (ones that die down in winter) that it is the parts beneath the soil surface that determines how well the overall performance is. Happy roots make healthy, vigorous plants!🤣
Hi from Alabama.
Coincidence. I'm from Alabama, too and we're the first two comments. Hi from the Shoals area!
Welcome, to our channel
I love the coneflower however pollinators do not even touch these, I have bees and butterflies of all kinds but none have even approached this navitar and bought 6 of them
Here on the nursery, our butterflies, bees and pollinating insects don't seem to be so discriminatory. As long as there's nectar rich flowers, we regularly see plenty of flurries of activity. Only to be extended by the joyous delight of seeing little Goldfinches feeding on the seeds on any left over plants.
👍
Thank you 😀
can you give full tour of your nursery? . All variety you have in one video
Thanks for asking but that would be a VERY long video (we grow over 2,000 varieties)! By scrolling through our channel (and subscribing to it) viewers are able to access many of the proven performers (for the Mid-Atlantic and Northeastern region) of the USA, and be in line to view all the new videos that we are posting all the time. Because we film most of the videos in different parts of our nursery, you can also get a good representation of the way we grow and prepare them for shipping to our garden center partners, and ultimately to beautify and enrich the lives of everyone who plants them in their home gardens.😉✔👍
Bought 15 gallon pots of Cheyenne Spirit Echinacea last summer, 20121, and only one is starting to show any new growth now at the middle of April. My Echinacea Magnus and one other lighter pink, have all started producing new foliage and spreading from their root ball area. Does Cheyenne Spirit come up later than other taller varieties? All have full sun and good soil and drainage.
Our Cheyenne Spirit plants are all up and showing new growth like the one you mention. In our experience, they emerge about the same time as most of the other sorts.
I planted some of these in the summer of 2020 and they were so beautiful. I think mine didn't get enough sun, though, and I think they underperformed and didn't return strongly in 2021.
They are sun lovers 🌞so that could be, but it might also be connected with drainage (especially when dormant in winter and early spring, after snow melt). Many times, we don't realize that soils lie excessively wet during dormant periods and then when the drier weather and the demands for growth in spring arrives, the roots are not in a position to support that, and they come thin and weak (or not at all)! That's why in this video (and several others), I stress the importance of good drainage. The site can look OK during the summer and fall but may be too wet in winter. I would encourage you to investigate if there's a better drained, sunny spot or perhaps even create an elevated or raised bed so that you can get better results with this exciting selection. 😉
@@OverdevestNurseries Wow, I am so grateful for your thorough reply! I will definitely check that out! We only get one or two inches of snow per year where I am but we do get quite a bit of rain and the area, not being in the sun, might very well be staying wet more than I think. Thank you so much for the advice and I will really look into that!
I've had mine for 2 growing seasons and find them to be as beautiful as you described! I think I have to move them from where they are as its become more shaded from other plants.
That makes sense✔, and it would probably be good to divide (split) them too👌! That will help to keep them growing vigorously and of course give you more plants too. 😁
@@OverdevestNurseries Thanks David :)
I live in Florida zone 10 will they grow here
Since our experience is centered here in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeastern region: grownbyoverdevest.com/retail-locator/ we are not really qualified to answer your question definitively, so we suggest you contact your local garden center and check with them. We know that (once established) they thrive in the heat of summer so you have that going for them but your humidity is another matter, so that's why it will be important for you to check with your local experts.
We hope you'll be encouraged to try them because they are so incredibly beautiful and rewarding to grow and we LOVE them here our region.
I don’t see any insects/pollinators . I guess they have to use insecticides on them. 😢 - edit: looks like they have pollinators if you see their other videos 😬😅
It's a shame you haven't been able to see any of our videos yet with insects and pollinators in them yet! Because, one of the joys we have working in the nursery, is watching them busy at work, flitting back and forth from plant to plant, and sometimes even making appearances that we don't even notice until the videos are posted or someone notices them, and points them out!
For instance here's a link to video: ruclips.net/video/5-wmyYA56qI/видео.html on a really lovely Butterfly Bush (Buddleia 'Prince Charming') with a Silver-spotted Skipper showing up around the 1 minute mark, and if you notice the thumbnail image that introduces this video, you will see that just as we were beginning to film that segment, a beautiful swallowtail landed on the same plant too.
Then just last week, to our delight (because its very important to us), a viewer (Leslie Hardin) spotted a Preying Mantis in another of our videos entitled "As Promised.... An Update on "How To Prune Tree Form Panicle Hydrangeas" // How Did It Turn Out? She kindly posted a note to say that "At 1:21 there is a praying mantis 😮 on the top left bloom. Lovely!" Here is the link, to see if you can spot it too: ruclips.net/video/xYJFQ_u4Xq4/видео.html
Perhaps, if you get a few minutes you might like to scroll through some of our other videos, and be able to enjoy watching them too!
@@OverdevestNurseries oh I’ll have to check out the other videos then! 🙂