Pat McNamara Pro-Tip: Finger on your Trigger
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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This actually saved my marriage. Thanks 🙏 Pat.
Finally..Susan got the D she was craving.
Iv'e been instructed to initiate with a five minute routine or nothing happens. I used to go strait for the shot but i'm not allowed to engage the target without the trigger time.
Hahaha
Lol Righteous.
thats good! and funny
Why isn't Pat a scout master or something? Children should know about this man, a Great American.
lol
oh ya, they will learn lots of cool new words.
lmao for real . i look forward to every one i find
Diverse vocabulary I say. Honestly can't be worse than the shit they teach in state run political orienteering camps. Oops, I mean public schools.
LOL! Agreed.
Pat, this worked to correct EVERY problem I had at the range with a pistol. Instructors couldn't fix it. I just got lucky and this video saved me. Thank you.
So, there's a gun guy that Pat Mac calls with shooting questions. Think about that.
There is always...someone better than you...Think about that
Would be awesome if it were Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch
When Chuck Norris needs a good guy with a gun he calls Jerry Miculek.
Yeah I answer Pat's calls if I'm not too busy.
You may be the best at something, but just offside of that one thing your good at there is someone thats the best at that thing. And to the other side theres another one
No BS , just good info. Ha Ha “Dick Beaters”. Haven’t heard that used in causal conversation in a few years.
Chris Chen it’s an old military term used to tell you you’re stupid, inept, and an Ftard without saying it. Lol. It was my SCPO’s favorite term I think, right after dumbass.
this is the single most useful accuracy tip I've ever encountered on RUclips. Forget about your preconceived notions and try it.
I so appreciate how he gets straight to the point in a minute video. More finger on the trigger also seems very pragmatic if one is in a real gun fight---It provides the strongest trigger pull without fussing about finger placement when one's adrenaline is pumping in a life and death situation..
The Rosetta Stone, the magic elixir. The key to gun-fu mastery.
When I went through basic in '91, they taught us to squeeze the trigger with finger tip. I didn't shoot that way before I went in, but I did after. Here recently I've done what Pats friend told him, more finger in the trigger. It does help a lot. It causes the weapon to torque less.
DavidSixSixFive I experienced the same...fingertip prior to and during service but when I went to glocks I always pulled to the right of target. I'm not a novice and also received the same advice from a friend with better credentials than I...he said go knuckle deep like with the ladies and I'm a believer.
@@kaiki8318 a rifle and pistol are two different systems. The support arm is further out holding the barrel on a rifle that can counter that torque. I really didn't have an issue with finger on the trigger with M9 got expert every time. Hell that might be more of glock thing where you want to go knuckle deep.
But it also might have to do with hands size also since I am 5'8" vs 6' I probably can't get the same pull knuckle deep as someone taller.
To fine tune, practice dry firing and keep adjusting your finger until the sights don't move when the trigger breaks
hey know it all make your own videos
Back into shooting after 40+ years. Frustrated with shooting low and left with nothing working. Tried this and I can't believe how well it works. Thanks Pat.
Pat Mac brings life to the tactical world!
Pat, I want to thank you for fixing me. I've been 2-3" down/left "forever". I put more finger on the trigger and I'm chewing the center out of targets. I can't thank you enough.
I've got large hands and I always pull my shots in the same pattern you described or further. Thank you both!
Man ditto! Once I started resting my finger naturally on the trigger vs trying to use the pad, I started nail driving targets.
The club!!! It's been 4 years, but same fn here
finger placement is one of the biggest results of institutional inbreeding I have heard. This was great thanks Pat.
Thank you for this. Our range officer and I got into an argument last March during quals because he believed I used too much finger. I told him, "That's what your wife said too." I thought it was funny, but he damn near kicked me off the range. Regardless, I had to qualify with using the tip of my trigger finger. I did it and only scored in the 80's, but scored 100 and 96 on when I shot with my normal stance and trigger.
you da legend m8
He can obviously take a dick.....but not a joke.....work that in next time.......hahahaha.....golden
Don't listen to that other guy.....give em hell
@wearealltubes some people are insecure sensitive little bitches who never matured past grade school. I don't associate with them.
Cool story bro
Thank you. My natural placement of my full finger on the trigger was always frowned upon by instructors. Unfortunately, for years I took their advice with mediocre results. Now days I use My Too much finger with better results and more confidence . I think my pistol likes the full finger more too.
Thank you for giving me permission .
This man has saved my life. Literally. His knowledge made a significant change in my shooting prowess and I know it made a real difference downrange.
Did you shoot someone?
Thank you Mr. Birdwatcher!
I have been shooting with just the pad of my finger like many experts recommend. However, while dry firing at home, I had experimented using this finger placement, and it felt better to me. I just haven't tried it at the range yet because I thought it was improper. Lesson learned,...go with what feels right. Thanks for confirming that Pat. Keep up the videos. Love your style.
On my M9A3 I'm most accurate with just the pad of my finger, but my Glocks I need to wrap my finger around the trigger.
Dear Pat McNamara thankyou to you and the blokes at delta for you service. From a friènd in Hereford 😉😉
"Sink more finger in the trigger". This is the Rosetta Stone.
I don't know for how long I have been trying everything on my Beretta 92X RDO. Started from the tip of the 1st pad to center, to 2/3 (with better results), and then knuckle (horrible results). I have been trying this back and forth and the results have been inconsistent. Today I shoot great and tomorrow completely different using the same position.
I went to the range today to try this tip. I placed the trigger in the center of the 2nd pad and the results were unbelievable. Shot at least 100 rounds from 15 yards with 99.5% accuracy based on a 4" target. The other 0.5% was within a 6" diameter.
I will never go back to placing the trigger on the first pad.
Don't ever let anybody ever tell you you are shooting wrong because of this.
Great video Pat McNamara. Thank you for the tip.
Pat Mac Namara, tire iron (firearm instructor on YT. Former USMC) recommended visiting your site. What you preach is so true. My modified trigger placement has helped my accuracy 100%. Have you ever watched Hickok45 place his entire finger on the trigger? Talk about a dead shot.
Hickok: That dude has got levels.
@@Riskmangler Hickok45: "This NAA mini-revolver in .22 short is impossible to grip with my big hands. Even if you could, you can't hit anything outside a phone booth. Let's try the gong."
BANG!
...ping!
This dude is awesome!
+TexasRedneck You should take a course of his, you'll love it.
you just gotta put more finger oooonnnnnnnnn the trigger
I took an armor course from Brandon Wright pro S&W M&P sponsored shooter. He said the key to not pulling the gun off target when pressing the trigger is not to move the fucking gun when you pull the trigger. Lol
Short and sweet. No theatrics.
Thumbs up.
I did this last time at the range and not only was I more accurate, but it was much easier to get a new sight picture.
Go figure. 🤙
So I finally got out to the range and I tried this and............it worked like a charm! My groups shrunk and I felt like I had more control. Great tip!
Yes! After shooting for 10+ years, my groups have started to fall apart. This fixed it!
Wow! Thanks! Will try it. Worked one of your move & shoot drills with my Sig 516 Patrol. Great drill!!!
It makes sense, a finger inserted all of the way through the trigger guard keeps your hand in a more natural position as you grip the gun.
I need to try this. I always thought the physics of trying to pull back with just the pad or tip of the finger was like trying to fight the natural leverage to the side, whereas using more finger would cause it to naturally pull back more than to the side.
Switched to this on my own this past year, and boy has it made a difference. I got big hands and other than my Hi-Point (laugh if you want, it punishes bad habits and is the best recoil trainer I've shot) every gun I own feels like it's too small without gloves on.
I was told the same thing by Brian Zins while shooting the breeze at camp perry about the 2010 timeframe. It has served me well.
This is actually a great tip and single-handedly fixed my shooting far left. Before, I was using only the pad of the finger.
Thanks Pat. Enjoy your vids. Great stuff. I'm going out today and try the "sink more finger" idea. I have been doing the traditional way for so long I just naturally do it. After watching your vid. I got out my 1911 (safety checked before I get grief) and tried out several positions. Damn it felt good. I paid particular attention to muzzle movement during dry fires and found my sweet spot.
I have large palms and normal fingers. My glove fit is large medium. My feel good spot allows my base pad and first knuckle of my trigger finger to align down range. Very comfortable. Very natural.
Trying it out today. I have been having some issues with trigger control lately and this may correct it. Right now I can say it feels natural and simple. I hope it works for me.
Thanks again. Just found your channel recently, subscribed and going through vids. Good stuff.
My dad was a shooter, and he told me to listen to other’s advice, but only follow it if it works. I think that would apply here.
Dude. Thank you. You are the shit. I had been just slightly pulling my shots left for over a month.
You spoke. I listened. Always a student. Thanks brother.
tried this out yesterday tightened up my groups!
You know, i might have sold my Glocks (19, 21, 22, 34, 41) FOR THE WRONG REASON, DAMMIT!
82 Luft you did.
That’s why I am selling my Glock, my “size large palm with size medium fingers” can’t get enough finger on the trigger.
I watched this video yesterday and immediately went to the range to test this. I shoot the Dot Torture target every week and put 200 rounds though my gun. For yous guys that don't know Dot Torture, yer shooting strings of rounds at 2 inch circle targets. I usually reach my limit (breaking the perfect score of 50) at 6 meters and that's where I really start focusing on the fundamentals. Using this finger placement technique I was able to shoot 5 round strings all in the 2 inch circle out to 9 meters. After 9 meters the target completely disappears behind my from sight post and I cant tell what the fuck Im shooting at. Thanks for sharing this Pat, keep up the good work brother!RRLTW!!!
That's why there is 6 o'clock hold.
Nice tip, I'll try it out. Growing up shotgunning we did not pay much attention to the trigger finger placement or how you pulled it. It was all about the focus on mounting the gun correctly and following through with tracking the target.
Thanks for sharing, Pat!
Thank you. I have found this steadies the aim better for me but didn't know if it was considered improper for some reason.
I actually tried this more finger on the trigger dry firing and lo and behold my front sight is a lot more stable with follow through than just using the pad of my trigger finger and my front sight jiggles a tiny bit off target so from now on I'm the more fanger on the trigger kind of guy for sure !!!
Watched it years ago, and it solved a lot.
Thanks
There's a lot of RUclips Cowboys out there that claim to know. This guy is the real deal.
He is legitimately the real deal. It’s hard to get more real or legit than Pat. That’s no exaggeration. Heed
Hickok 45 has said that he shoots this way, too.
Interesting, I'll have to try this. When I took an NRA pistol class about 40 years ago we were told the opposite: use the pad of the tip of the finger. Guess times change.
I have figured this out after thousands of rds. If I only watched this sooner.
More finger has tightened the rounds up. Thank you.
I like it when stuff works when folks think it won't
After I watched this video my son started calling me again. Thank you Pat!
This is Chris Farley's much fitter Murder Cousin living in a compound down by the river.
I gain so much tactical knowledge whenever this man puts out a video. His no bs/straight to the point manner of communicating is a real draw for me to pay attention, & gain the goodness.
I shoot a Glock 41, & for some reason shoot a bit low & to the left, as I am a righty. My groups are quite tight for a commo POG, yet with this little tid-bit of Warfighter goodness, I'm almost consonantly at center from 25-35 meters.
Pat's functional body strengthening videos are also GOLD, for those insane moments in life, when you need to be Batman!
Who would have thought? Thanks for the insight.
Thanks for the tip. This fixed my problem
Thank you for sharing that valuable information.
remember folks he said he spoke to his friend decades ago... so for decades.. he was doing it "WRONG" by institution standards... this video is about 2 years old. some people go to a police academy and think that what they learn there is what works in Combat and hence everthing they see is "wrong" because "thats not what they teach at P.O.S.T"
everything from what direction your bullets are facing in your magholder to scan and access is different in a combat environment. the tactics that work in a real situation are not going to be the pretty stuff you do at the range. nuff said Great Video.
Highly underrated comment. Great stuff.
Boom, that just happened
when i watch the video it sounded like he said he spoke to his friend and got this advice recently.
His friend is someone who was ranked #1 several years in row, decades ago.
It's the little things. Thanks Pat Mac.
That's how I do it, I have big hands my trigger finger is often on the middle knuckle on whatever I shoot and thats how I train if I use less finger I pull shots right
‘Great Big Dick Beaters’, another name for large hands.
That light finger pad pull is from precision shooting and sniping with a 2 and a quarter pound trigger pull. Just breathe on it and it goes off.
I have told people this for years and they have always looked at me like I had two heads. Then they tried it. Works on rifles with military triggers too.
Love this guy!
I'll have to try doing that. Thanks.
I used to force my trigger finger to use just the pad like everyone says is the right way and I hated it. My knuckle stuck too far out and I'd pull to the left. When I got my Sig 226 in SA it was ridiculous so I just put my trigger finger in deeper where it naturally rested which was on the crease. And like you said, sure as shit it worked!
Love the 226 SAO
The level of respect I had for this guy was high. After he said “great big d**k beaters.” Words cannot express how hard I laughed. Needless to say, my level of respect has no limits now.
I come for the gun tips, and comments
Sold! I will buy and support!
I am going to have to try that...
Pat for President!
Funny enough I have the same issue. My hands are too big and using first pad of my finger causes me issues.
Awesome review brother, keep grinding!
Right to the point! My short attention span likes it.
Gonna have to try that!
Thanks Pat!
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Dude, you are like the Henry Rollins of the shooter world :)
This man know his shit.
Now I feel validated for doing it that way.
My hands are pretty averaged size, but i can't do this technique with my double stack Glock 19. It puts my radial bone to far out of alignment behind the grip and causes more kickback. With smaller firearms, or any fullsize, single stacked firearms, this technique is fine.
Really interesting, I wish he had described his problems in more detail before giving the remedy.
This man inspires me to be a better person
use as much as you need but don't alter your grip and make sure you don't push or pull the frame with the trigger finger.....
the grip is your connection to the gun.....the trigger finger should only be your connection to the trigger......this is why most shooters that are right handed tend to error by shooting low and left......gripping wrong or pushing/ gripping with the trigger finger
the trigger should move front to back without any sideways torque or pressure
I'd say go with whatever your finger naturally does unless, you find that that exact placement or amount of finger or lack of, combined with your trigger pull is pulling the sight offline.
Thanks Pat !
I've always used a comfortable amount of finger. Have gotten a lot of flak for it but I'm often on target. Little to be said to detour my behavior since it's always worked. I learned to use a lot of finger as a child hunting. We were taught to squeeze the trigger not pull. How you gonna squeeze the trigger with the tip of your finger, folks?
Pulling gets you a miss squeezing gets you a dish.
Hellosh Klosh, Amen, brother. I too switched to a trigger squeeze just a hair before the first joint. What a difference.
Tried this too. It works for me! 👍🏼👍🏼
Outstanding
I think I'm gonna try try this???? Heck Hicock45 always states he has to use a lot of trigger finger and pops that gong at 80 yards!
Love the Christopher walken way he talks , it cracks me up. We need pat mcnamera, zero and travis haley to do a video together. Who else should be in it so it could be called the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse .
Pat Rodgers would make a great 4th
+theKAHUNA144 They should use James Yaeger as a target that way its four dudes getting rid of the most obnoxious crap talking "Expert".
They wouldn't waste their time on a mall cop.
+theKAHUNA144 Only problem with that is that Zero is not a real instructor.
how so , I've learned lots from zero.
You can try this with your dry fire i personally found that my sights stay more aligned when i use most of my finger
learned something new
Is this tip only for people with large fingers? What about people with small slender fingers ?
Fuck yeah Pat keep em comin bud, I'm all ears.
Depends on which gun I'm shooting
I agree that works for me but a lot of people go around saying little tip of your finger to you name it and I think it's whatever you're comfortable with is the way you should shoot not two people are going to be the same
You're stupid. Don't listen to nobody's on here my RUclips fam, this guy is obviously talking crazy
Your last of a dying breed keep up the great work patriot
Why is this like possibly the first time I have heard this???
"Great big dick beaters" lolololol! I love Pat Mac!
Heard similar from a range trainer for a municipal PD.