@@miguelbarahona6636 Djokovic's forehand is really good. Career stats: forehand points won % vs unforced error %: Nole: 13% vs 7%, 1.85 ratio Fed: 19% vs 10%, 1.9 ratio Nadal: 13% vs 6%, 2.16 ratio Yes maybe Nadal and Federer have the best forehands of all time. But the ratios are all at close levels.
To play this shot, people should understand, it works because he has agile body and core strength for which he worked his whole life. People should build fitness as they are learning to play tennis. Playing tennis won’t make you fit, rather you need to be fit to play tennis.
Tom! Great. Your clips are the best! I Like two frames. Noticed important details. Confirming my reasoning. Plus an extra bonus!!!!! U NEVER, NEVER reveale greatest secrects, offer any online-7days-go to the moon- full proof-become a pro crap! So refreshing, so modest!!!!!
@@derekanaya i am confusing smetimes about forehand: to make it clear, as a one handed backhander i manage it with the " back " ( shoulder) as the main spring. where is the spring here ?? abdominal belt ??
@@TomAllsopp no worries, some people might think Nalbadian is the GOAT. They are very few though. Facts are hard to deny for most though, even if it happens... eventually.
He's the modern agassi. Just a great all around baseline package and he's twice the mover agassi was. Combine those two attributes with longevity, motivation and the ability to play big matches better than any of his competitors and you get 24 majors.
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@@TomAllsoppWrong. Majority of club players tend to copy Federer's forehand. Its technically superior and more efficient than Djokovic's. Gives easy power and spin
what is surprising me is that i am not sure Djokovic have "just" one forehand. as Alcaraz this guy can give many varaitions of volumes, paces or effets with this hot. more than many other even among the big 3.
He was my coach since I was a beginner so when I began he taught me the more basic High 5 technique for the forehand and he’s pretty old school but in my games I adapt for power now since I’m better at the game
And the High Five technique he taught me wasn’t with my arm but with my wrist then when I have my racket lower I firm my wrist then just do a normal swing
Actually no. I'm a big Novak fan, but his Fh still has a small by key flaw that has played a big part in this yr being off. His Fh is much better than it was early in his career, but he still hits slot entry late in his forward swing, which gives him issues for hitting a rising, fast incoming ball. This leads to a tendency to hit them long at the worst moments.
Yes. And That’s why he suffer of something similar than spasms sometimes. The shot is so much difficult to make that sometimes he falls down. Yesterday in the final of the US Open he started doing the same with his backhand too
@@TomAllsopp His grip is too turned , Federer has a classic textbook forehand! Djoko has a very agressive newstyle grip, very effective and good but not textbook!
Slightly un-textbook in the strong semi-western grip, though-this is an underappreciated difference between him and most players from his generation (though many younger players like Sinner are going more extreme like him)
The grip is different though. Novak uses Eastern, almost Western grip, so arm is slightly bend at point of contact. Roger uses Continental, where the arm is stretched at the point of contact.
@@tombuddy100novak's is bent but he straightens his arm a lot more than the typical "bent arm" FH. And like others have stated, Roger uses a strong Eastern and Novak a strong SW, almost closer to Western at times
There are better forehands out there. It’s very good, very solid but generally requires a weaker shot from an opponent to be a real threat. It is not the model that would use when building a high level mens forehand that has to be a consistent threat. Obviously that is easier said than done.
In essence, Pete Sampras with his unparalleled serve & volley plus his running forehand, in my opinion, is the GOAT...At his peak, Roger Federer who has the most complete game, would have beaten Djokovic as well... It doesn't matter if Djokovic wins 5 or 10 more majors, he will never be the GOAT...remember, we are talking about at peak level...
No its even close to as good as Federer.. his left hand is not being used properly for a text book but no doubt he is a goat and it serves him.. for text book follow federer.. he is like kinda author of the text book
@@TomAllsopp depends what you want. If you like to grind far behind the line where ball is high - sure. If you want take the ball early and low like Agassi or Fed - this chicken wing grip would not work well. You wont be able slap the ball as you palm is not aligned with raquet face.
@@TomAllsopp when Federer change his grip and backswing...his forehand wasnt good as it was in first 5 years of his careera. Dont know why he was done that but it wasnt something that gives him more benefits. More mistakes sometime in crucial moments, not to mention worse play on clay. Lack of spin and power. His forehand was similar to Djoković nowdays and then he changed that. I m sure if he didnt do that he would won couple of big wins more.
Plus Rogers strike zone was an inch off the court to two feet over his head with very little loss of anything: spin, pace and or trajectory. Novak's technique hates the high slow ball. Many of his errors are drawn off of that ball.
A couple of days ago I commented that Djokovic will never be the GOAT even if he wins 10 more majors...and added why, however my comment has been removed!...why?
I don't like his forehand, doesn't look too bad there, but when in real matches the stroke guess all the way around almost wrapping his neck at the end of the swing... Weird shit.
one of the best forehands ever! Its very efficient. IVe modeled mine after his motion
Most consistent not one of the bests. There’s alot of better forehands than Novak’s, he just is above average-elite in everything
its def one of the best. Notice I didnt say most powerful. He basically won 3 slams this year with it@@taxationistheft7
@@taxationistheft7Better forehands than Djokovic? (Please, just don't mention the over rated, unreliable Gonzalez's forehand.)
@@miguelbarahona6636 Djokovic's forehand is really good.
Career stats: forehand points won % vs unforced error %:
Nole: 13% vs 7%, 1.85 ratio
Fed: 19% vs 10%, 1.9 ratio
Nadal: 13% vs 6%, 2.16 ratio
Yes maybe Nadal and Federer have the best forehands of all time. But the ratios are all at close levels.
Best ever in terms of precision? Federer.
So clean! No pat the dog, next generation forehand, etc. Nole very rarely shanks the ball, like many other forehands on the atp tour.
Exactly. No nonsense!
Lol, if you want to generate power and have decent amount of top spin, you gotta “pet the dog” and use your legs.
@@hanslu9706 Definitely not for the club player. If it comes natural, great, but you can tell when it's not, and that ruins their forehand.
It is a pat the dog but the dog is Big
@@greenhammer1148 😂😂
To play this shot, people should understand, it works because he has agile body and core strength for which he worked his whole life. People should build fitness as they are learning to play tennis. Playing tennis won’t make you fit, rather you need to be fit to play tennis.
bro, i stopped tennis i am not fit anymore ;)
I have seen his forehand and backhand on court in person, that's even more impressive than on video !
Tom! Great. Your clips are the best! I Like two frames. Noticed important details. Confirming my reasoning. Plus an extra bonus!!!!! U NEVER, NEVER reveale greatest secrects, offer any online-7days-go to the moon- full proof-become a pro crap!
So refreshing, so modest!!!!!
the loosest wrist to produce the most powerful tennis. hence why the big 3 are so amazing.
Perfect elegance ouverture power impact closing class foreshoot top 🔝 1️⃣
So satisfying to watch.
The GOAT...😊
I’ve watched him play live a couple of times. It’s like watching a video game, his balance, movement and ball striking is that good.
Lol except when he plays Del potro in shanghai I guess.
very good for players to model after. Both Rafa's (western loopy) and Roger's (eastern aggressive flat) are incredibly difficult and unique
Federer didn’t hit a flat forehand by default (still put a ton of spin on it) and used semi western grip aplenty.
@@kabob21relatively speaking
@@johnbr59 compared to Nadal ??? ;)
The important is the body like a Unity... Flexión, rotation. And racket finish like a continuation. The stroke is from down to up
Thanks! I subtracted the body coil, and using just the arm, I have a half swing, half push, pusher forehand! I've never been so steady!
Most consistent and precise forehand on tour.
Now, yes.
it took time ;)
but more surely, the ability to vary a lot, paces, volumes or effects.
accuracy is the signature of his whole game :)
Hypnotisant et apprenant. Merci😊
The most stable and versatile forehand ever.....for me the standard and best forehand ever.
Where can I find the textbook? Can you tell me textbook name so that I can read it?
The Tennis Biomechanical Manual.
@@derekanaya i am confusing smetimes about forehand:
to make it clear, as a one handed backhander i manage it with the " back " ( shoulder) as the main spring.
where is the spring here ?? abdominal belt ??
I think it’s interesting that he’s never late with this style of trying to touch the back fence during his takeback. Can’t argue with his results!
He holds the throat for an extended period to guarantee the shoulder/unit turn. A subtle element that all can try.
everything he does is textbook... its why he is the GOAT
Not in my textbook
@@TomAllsopp no worries, some people might think Nalbadian is the GOAT. They are very few though. Facts are hard to deny for most though, even if it happens... eventually.
He's the modern agassi. Just a great all around baseline package and he's twice the mover agassi was. Combine those two attributes with longevity, motivation and the ability to play big matches better than any of his competitors and you get 24 majors.
@@TomAllsopp Of course he is the Goat. He has most grand slams, most master 1000's, most weeks at number one. He is the one and only goat.
It doesn’t mean all of his shots are textbook. His serve certainly isn’t.
His hips stay so perfectly level through the shot. This is where the shot starts but is often an overlooked point.
Thank you very interesting to see it both at normal and slow motion speed 👍
Grande campeón!!
Flawless technique
Comment negatively when you're as good as he is!
yes and no :)
nobody's perfect ;)
A réal artist
He puts bodyweight into everyshot
I'll take his backhand any day. The Serbian Wall reigns Supreme 🙌
So clear😊
It is quite disappointing that someone has deleted my comment on Djokovic!...So I am going to rewrite it again!
May sound strange but other than the perfect fine tuning of motion, he has a certain body structure that gives me whip vibes.
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Djokovic is too famous
This is is a 60% forehand. In the heat of the moment he swings way faster and he never catches the racquet if u notice.
I do miss Delpo’s forehand, massive & beautiful at the same time.
not only !! he was able to play many differents forehand in regulation too !
but yes ... i think we all miss this kind of shot :)
Thanks
His right shoulder is behind at contact 🧐
Yes for sure, exactly how I teach it
Federer's technique is perfect and is the ultimate gold standard.
Copying his technique usually goes wrong though. That’s why it’s not textbook. Way better to copy Djokovic
@@TomAllsopp Right, I can't do forehand the way Federer does, with Continental grip and stretched arm at the point of contact.
@@TomAllsoppWrong. Majority of club players tend to copy Federer's forehand. Its technically superior and more efficient than Djokovic's. Gives easy power and spin
@@tombuddy100Man, Federer's forehand grip is a modified eastern grip, not continental forehand. You can't hit a topspin forehand with continental
Nonsense
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pure balance
what is surprising me is that i am not sure Djokovic have "just" one forehand.
as Alcaraz this guy can give many varaitions of volumes, paces or effets with this hot.
more than many other even among the big 3.
Better to bend arm or straight arm for forehand? Pros and cons?
looks so easy than a golf one
Super interressant
Idk why but my coach would KILL me if I brought my arm there!!😅
Why?
He was my coach since I was a beginner so when I began he taught me the more basic High 5 technique for the forehand and he’s pretty old school but in my games I adapt for power now since I’m better at the game
And the High Five technique he taught me wasn’t with my arm but with my wrist then when I have my racket lower I firm my wrist then just do a normal swing
I have modeled my forehand after Federer and my error rate is also higher like him.
Actually, this is not the best example...his dominant shoulder isn't in front of the left...
Why does it need to be?
Sinner is similar with more arm and shoulder motion. More flexibility due to younger age?
He's longer/lankier.
Its not a heavy topspin forehand, he hits pretty flat or at least looks like it here
do you have something like this but for backhand?
Actually no. I'm a big Novak fan, but his Fh still has a small by key flaw that has played a big part in this yr being off. His Fh is much better than it was early in his career, but he still hits slot entry late in his forward swing, which gives him issues for hitting a rising, fast incoming ball. This leads to a tendency to hit them long at the worst moments.
Yes. And That’s why he suffer of something similar than spasms sometimes. The shot is so much difficult to make that sometimes he falls down. Yesterday in the final of the US Open he started doing the same with his backhand too
What!?!?
Fognini forehand is the best in my opinion. Pure, simple, loose yet deadly.
Compliment Novak Djokovic
Looks like his body rotation start first and the hip follow . Always confuse what start the forehand??
Similar to rafa and roger...These 3 all have the same swing rotation... Prove that it's the best technique possible on how to hit a forehand
Djoko is the best in history. But Roger Federer Forehand its "The shot". A master piece for the text books 😁
Not my text book
@@TomAllsopp Your textbook is irrelevant. Federer has a much better forehand.
Nope. Players should not copy Federer’s forehand
@@TomAllsopp Yesh, they should.
@@Al-ji4gd he’s ruined so many forehands. Alcaraz to ruin the next gen of players
Doesn’t get any better than this.
Great forehand by a great player. I still think the straight arm technique (nadal, Federer, del potro etc. ) has its adavtages
For all of the new Gen coaches ,teaching short backswing forehands.....there you have the short backswing....... ignorance is free.
Yeah. Short, fast whippy swings are overrated
All in the wrist.
Pretty good but the most textbook forehand I’ve ever seen came from RF
@@c-manmusic8211 nah
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Can i get rafa’s FH slowmotion compared with his backswing before2017 and now?
It seems not compact swing , isn't it?
One of the best forehands ? True, but textbook ? His grip is anything but textbook!
@@golfergab what’s wrong with the book. It seems pretty textbook to me
@@TomAllsopp His grip is too turned , Federer has a classic textbook forehand! Djoko has a very agressive newstyle grip, very effective and good but not textbook!
If we’re talking text book/greatest forehand ever it should be a clip of Federer.
People should copy Djokovic not Federer
Slightly un-textbook in the strong semi-western grip, though-this is an underappreciated difference between him and most players from his generation (though many younger players like Sinner are going more extreme like him)
And, nobody’s yelling at him “bend your knees, load the legs, don’t take it back too far, get under the ball” etc. Did I miss anything else? Lol
where's the snap everyone is talking about
The snap is quick and happens just before contact, its almost closer to a golf swing than a whippy wristy tennis FH.
While I like Nole forehand, I still think Federer has the textbook example of the modern forehand.
The grip is different though.
Novak uses Eastern, almost Western grip, so arm is slightly bend at point of contact.
Roger uses Continental, where the arm is stretched at the point of contact.
@tombuddy100 none of that is correct
@@tombuddy100Dude, Roger has a eastern grip and Novak semi-western!
@@erikbergson6471 Still, Roger stretches his arm before hitting the ball, whereas Novak doesn't.
@@tombuddy100novak's is bent but he straightens his arm a lot more than the typical "bent arm" FH. And like others have stated, Roger uses a strong Eastern and Novak a strong SW, almost closer to Western at times
Interesting...
There are better forehands out there.
It’s very good, very solid but generally requires a weaker shot from an opponent to be a real threat.
It is not the model that would use when building a high level mens forehand that has to be a consistent threat.
Obviously that is easier said than done.
I feel like there's something to be learned here 😊
Depends on who’s text book
Mine
@@TomAllsopp 🙄
In essence, Pete Sampras with his unparalleled serve & volley plus his running forehand, in my opinion, is the GOAT...At his peak, Roger Federer who has the most complete game, would have beaten Djokovic as well...
It doesn't matter if Djokovic wins 5 or 10 more majors, he will never be the GOAT...remember, we are talking about at peak level...
DYING TO SHOW THIS TO SOME COACHES HERE. THEY TEACH CLUB PLAYERS TO POINT THE BALL WITH LEFT HAND.
Yes
No its even close to as good as Federer.. his left hand is not being used properly for a text book but no doubt he is a goat and it serves him.. for text book follow federer.. he is like kinda author of the text book
Prelipo...
Rogers FH was not that bad eithet tbh
I think Djokovic’s forehand is a better stroke to learn from for most players
@@TomAllsopp Yes i agree. Easy to learn text book technique by djoko.. Hardly any shank.
It's just fed's forehand was a delight to watch
@@KhanMunazAhmad Yes, I think Fed's FH was a little more natural than Djokovic's FH. I also feel that Djokovic's BH is more natural than his fH.
@@TomAllsopp depends what you want. If you like to grind far behind the line where ball is high - sure.
If you want take the ball early and low like Agassi or Fed - this chicken wing grip would not work well.
You wont be able slap the ball as you palm is not aligned with raquet face.
@@TomAllsopp when Federer change his grip and backswing...his forehand wasnt good as it was in first 5 years of his careera. Dont know why he was done that but it wasnt something that gives him more benefits. More mistakes sometime in crucial moments, not to mention worse play on clay. Lack of spin and power. His forehand was similar to Djoković nowdays and then he changed that. I m sure if he didnt do that he would won couple of big wins more.
NOT textbook. This is Novak's warmup forehand. In match play his right sholder is WAY in front as he unloads more(if have time).
He’s not in that position so he’s not doing that. What’s your point?
Federer
Amazing yes. Text book maybe not. But who cares he's a stud
It's not the most text book forehand. But it's right after Fed's.
No knees?
Perfect knees
Plus Rogers strike zone was an inch off the court to two feet over his head with very little loss of anything: spin, pace and or trajectory. Novak's technique hates the high slow ball. Many of his errors are drawn off of that ball.
It’s a better model for people to copy though.
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It is a consistent forehand. I will give him that. But in terms of power, generation and aesthetics, there’s a lot to be desired.
No. Federer is textbook.
A couple of days ago I commented that Djokovic will never be the GOAT even if he wins 10 more majors...and added why, however my comment has been removed!...why?
I don’t know. Wasn’t me.
Hi class.
Supposed he is not perfect n he forehand. I think he won out of been a tennis genius
Well, if you're a real novice and over 50 of age, don't try this on court
That would be the case for every pro. But Djokovic is one of the better ones
@@TomAllsoppbetter once xd salty
Better ones. Are you brain-dead?
Federer has the best
Nah. Almost everyone who copies it develops terrible technique
IF ANY OF YOU CAN MASTER HIS FOREHAND! YOU WILL HAVE A WORLDNRANKING
Best forehand is from Roger Federer.
Nah. Definitely not to copy. Maybe to look at
I don't like his forehand, doesn't look too bad there, but when in real matches the stroke guess all the way around almost wrapping his neck at the end of the swing... Weird shit.
I agree, in matches he does things that look awkward and weird. Never saw Federer doing that
Of course it's, a good forehand but a little to much backswing in my humble opinion. His backhand is much better than his forehand.
He has possibly the best double handed backhand Ive ever seen.
@@ShaktiChaturvedi his backhand is the best doubleheader of all times for me... His forehand is not in the top 10.
Decent form can’t beat Federer Nadal or djvokkc