Recording Drums At The Tiny Desk (With Josh Rogosin)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 мар 2018
  • In honor of the fourth-ever Tiny Desk Contest, our intrepid Tiny Desk audio engineer Josh Rogosin goes deep on recording drums. The Contest closes at 11:59 p.m. ET on March 25, 2018, so get those last-minute submissions in to npr.org/tinydeskcontest!
    Remember: You don't need to have fancy audio equipment to make a great entry - just be yourself, and let your music shine through. Good luck!
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  • @nprmusic
    @nprmusic  5 лет назад +38

    Learn more Tiny Desk tech tips from Josh, including this story on microphones, here: www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2019/04/02/705579879/tiny-tech-tips-microphones

    • @kamenwaticlients
      @kamenwaticlients 4 года назад

      Thanks for all the great work. What type of mixer do you use?

    • @anilrai9049
      @anilrai9049 3 года назад +2

      Wow! great info but are the instruments and microphones connected to an interface and audio software. How do we connect the microphones and where do we connect? Is it connected to a mixture, interface and audio software. What audio software do you use? would be great if you could share with us the idea for recoding the full song. Are these all played live or first you record an audio and then later sync it with the video?

    • @gazicj
      @gazicj 3 года назад +1

      @@anilrai9049 great fukin questions! ty:)

    • @anilrai9049
      @anilrai9049 3 года назад

      @@gazicj Oh I want to learn about all these as I really don’t have any idea.

  • @jamosensei
    @jamosensei 6 лет назад +562

    Josh, because of you, TDC artists sound better than on most of their studio albums...Thank you for providing us with the gift of your audio expertise.

    • @tomlibero3780
      @tomlibero3780 6 лет назад +7

      jamosensei
      You have exactly Right - Lianne La Havas, Andwrson Paak, Tank &Bangas are definitelly better in NPR!
      So - Now I listen only NPR concerts on YT.
      Regards!

    • @antoniodurante
      @antoniodurante 3 года назад +1

      @@tomlibero3780 Dua Lipa too!

    • @dantemakoya
      @dantemakoya 2 года назад

      We appreciate you Josh!

  • @Afroninja10000
    @Afroninja10000 4 года назад +257

    Fun fact: Phase cancellation (or destructive interference) is used on purpose for noise cancellation headphones. Noise-cancelling headphones actively listen to the noise around you and plays it back "real-time" 180 degrees out of phase which makes the high part of the waveform cancel with the low part of the waveform, so it zeros out. Not that anyone asked...someone might like this haha. I wouldn't have thought of it in this context and how it produces great sound. So cool.

    • @gitsurfer27
      @gitsurfer27 3 года назад +7

      Thats fascinating i remember seeing something like that on Mark Robers channel. Sound acts in a very bizarre but incredibly interesting way....have you seen cymatics? Where they put sand on a plate and pump certain frequencies through it, and the sand forms geometric patterns due the the "shape" of the sound?

    • @roarbeats1008
      @roarbeats1008 3 года назад +2

      i've always wondered how. thanks

    • @angelomartinez2318
      @angelomartinez2318 3 года назад

      Ur so cool

    • @ether5431
      @ether5431 3 года назад

      Wouldn't that greatly affect the sound signature of the can? Just curious, i havent got a noise cancelling headphones myself

    • @jacdenn8789
      @jacdenn8789 3 года назад

      @@ether5431 perfect phase cancellation will result in zero sound. So since we are bringing in the 180 degree phase shift of outside noise signal, it will result in zero sound( or volume) of the outside noises due to phase cancellation. Whereas we can hear the thing we played( music,etc) properly without any problem with the outside noises cancelled out.
      I hope that this is what you actually asked and you understood my point

  • @RougeEric
    @RougeEric 3 года назад +159

    So you're the reason Anderson Paak. sounds so much better at Tiny Desk than any other recording... Thanks!

  • @brandobin
    @brandobin 3 года назад +47

    This is the most informative drum mic'ing video I've found and I've been watching A LOT

  • @nickthorpe7567
    @nickthorpe7567 6 лет назад +150

    For comparison:
    1 mic: 1:06
    2 mic: 2:18
    3 mic: 3:41

    • @catoleg
      @catoleg 3 года назад +1

      NPR should pin this comment

    • @gazicj
      @gazicj 3 года назад

      ty much

  • @JcGrubbsFilms
    @JcGrubbsFilms 6 лет назад +203

    I only put it halfway in the hole, and I can confirm it leads to isolation

    • @Alanoffer
      @Alanoffer 6 лет назад +14

      JcGrubbsFilms As the bishop said to the actress

    • @smooooth_
      @smooooth_ 6 лет назад +10

      im more mature than this i swear

  • @PvtMole
    @PvtMole 3 года назад +74

    What a lovely and precise educational video! Thank you!

  • @Gassyyetclassy
    @Gassyyetclassy 6 лет назад +60

    The employee retention at NPR Music must be extremely high- these engineers and musicians are geniuses! We appreciate your informative videos. Thank you!

  • @gssong7111
    @gssong7111 6 лет назад +412

    Could this guy be anymore NPR-y?

    • @sumeursault
      @sumeursault 6 лет назад +2

      Ha, nope

    • @gssong7111
      @gssong7111 6 лет назад +2

      mjchmara1 well then, maybe you are too young...ruclips.net/video/bPpcfH_HHH8/видео.html

    • @sumeursault
      @sumeursault 6 лет назад +5

      I'm agreeing with you, e.g. no, he could not be anymore NPR-y. I grew up on mid-90s SNL!

    • @worm75
      @worm75 5 лет назад

      FIRST thing I said!

    • @p0llenp0ny
      @p0llenp0ny 4 дня назад

      Must be the copious amount of soy they consume.

  • @trenchf00t88
    @trenchf00t88 6 лет назад +5

    I've always been impressed with the sound engineering in this series, and this is exactly the video I wanted to see! Thanks so much for making it! :)

  • @pimpal
    @pimpal 3 года назад +5

    Josh from one audio engineer to another. I love your work every band sound incredible. You do so much with so little. It's an inspiration

  • @ralphfonda4724
    @ralphfonda4724 6 лет назад +4

    Tiny Desk sound is always primo! Clean, natural and organic. Thank you for that inside look!! Kudos!

  • @KyTaundry
    @KyTaundry 4 месяца назад +1

    Not only was this helpful but your explanation of phase cancellation is probably the best I've ever heard!

  • @simonbarth110
    @simonbarth110 6 лет назад +1

    Omg i love you guys, the recordings that you do often appeal to me more than the album of the artists. That you make this series now is the most awesome thimg ever ! Keep up the amazong work

  • @chrisneyman
    @chrisneyman 3 года назад +3

    This was so incredibly informative. And short?!? Amazing! Thanks for this!

  • @AldenAcosta
    @AldenAcosta 6 лет назад

    Thank you Josh and thank you NPR for this very helpful video. I will definitely try these out.

  • @xaqary
    @xaqary 6 лет назад +5

    Finally. A tutorial on how to get that NPR/ Tiny Desk drum sound everyone’s after. Sweet. So hyped. Super.

  • @ATLS702
    @ATLS702 3 года назад

    Love the attitude in these videos! So charming, it’s obvious you folks love what you do.

  • @otegadamagic
    @otegadamagic 3 года назад +1

    Infamous Josh. We love what u do and can't wait for tiny desk to come back to the desk

  • @johnbensinger4931
    @johnbensinger4931 6 лет назад

    Thanks so much NPR. I need this

  • @rebeccaryanthomsen6951
    @rebeccaryanthomsen6951 7 месяцев назад

    Love these educational videos from you guys at tiny desk. ❤

  • @Themrfiddy
    @Themrfiddy 6 лет назад +55

    So nice tiny, we are waiting for others instrument recordings

    • @jakealfrednunez6625
      @jakealfrednunez6625 3 года назад +2

      There is. Just try looking further

    • @rememberme1731
      @rememberme1731 3 года назад +4

      @@jakealfrednunez6625 sir... That comment was 3 years ago

  • @asdf852asdf
    @asdf852asdf 6 лет назад

    All this videos sound great, thanks for the amazing sound

  • @j0s3ph20pte01
    @j0s3ph20pte01 3 года назад

    Estos videos son delos los mejores, gracias Josh y todos los que están detrás de Tiny desk:)

  • @jcims
    @jcims 6 лет назад

    YESSSSS!! I've been begging for some engineering vids for a long time. Haven't even watched this one yet but couldn't contain myself lol. Thank you!

  • @MBblink182
    @MBblink182 6 лет назад

    Wow Josh you are fantastic! Keep these vids coming!

  • @backtofitzgerald00
    @backtofitzgerald00 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome video!!! More like this please!

  • @kumkanimtengwana8981
    @kumkanimtengwana8981 5 лет назад +1

    You guys are so generous. Let there be more from where you receive from

  • @acopernic
    @acopernic 5 лет назад

    Just perfect. Thank you and yes your sound rocks in the chest.

  • @bradjonesband1818
    @bradjonesband1818 4 года назад +1

    You sir are the real hero of tiny desk!

  • @JasonCastellanos
    @JasonCastellanos 3 года назад +1

    I saw a couple of videos of NPR... I am a drummer so always go first to the drum sound.. And .. OMG! this guy nailed in a way that make sing those drums for that kind of place!.. Excellent video!

  • @MtSound-ow7vk
    @MtSound-ow7vk 3 года назад

    this is like The Joy Of Painting for drum recording. Love it, thanks NPR!

  • @seanporter3616
    @seanporter3616 3 года назад

    That's the most adorable (and informative) thing I've seen in ages :)

  • @irmu4556
    @irmu4556 6 лет назад

    Love it!! keep em coming!!!

  • @highwayTY
    @highwayTY 6 лет назад

    EXCELLENT VIDEO. PLEASE, KEEP THEM COMING. I BEG YOU

  • @NaturalUnity
    @NaturalUnity 6 лет назад

    Awesome bro!! I would love to see more of your mic techniques used in tiny desk!! Thanks!

  • @StookyBill
    @StookyBill 6 лет назад

    Great video :D would love more of these

  • @enriquejose17
    @enriquejose17 6 лет назад

    Thank you for this!!! Informative as hell

  • @danielarco8566
    @danielarco8566 3 года назад

    Guys,you are great!Thanks

  • @infinityx678
    @infinityx678 6 лет назад +41

    I would love to hear a sample of the SM58 inside of the kick lol

    • @gregponce2921
      @gregponce2921 3 года назад +4

      I just tried this in my own recording and I can confirm, 58 on a kick sounds great

    • @gitsurfer27
      @gitsurfer27 3 года назад

      sm58 ftw, but take off the pop filter first for extra meatiness.

    • @TheEpicCookie324
      @TheEpicCookie324 3 года назад +6

      @@gitsurfer27 so just a sm57 haha

  • @chappahx
    @chappahx 6 лет назад +1

    These guys are awesome!

  • @ottmgh
    @ottmgh 6 лет назад

    you guys are awesome.

  • @Zoesstuff
    @Zoesstuff 6 лет назад

    Bless you for this!

  • @Stallagmite
    @Stallagmite 6 лет назад

    I Love the simplicity

  • @mr.orlando8093
    @mr.orlando8093 3 года назад +1

    this is really good thanks soooo much!

  • @BrandonLaukat
    @BrandonLaukat 6 лет назад +34

    More please

  • @jensine.ondrums
    @jensine.ondrums 3 года назад

    Thank you for this video!

  • @sgravon3
    @sgravon3 6 лет назад +1

    I looked anywhere in the internet for josh’s tips on how he work on tiny desk! Keep these videos on! :D

  • @sinematrix
    @sinematrix 3 года назад

    The magic is, any mic can be the best mic to suit the recording, in the right man's hand. Hat off for Josh!

  • @chhendokrai4140
    @chhendokrai4140 6 лет назад +4

    This video has been really helpful. Thanks.Can you please do a video on live mixing as well?

  • @willmcdaniel8375
    @willmcdaniel8375 5 лет назад

    This video was more helpful than a lot of other recording technique videos

  • @camilomateus
    @camilomateus 5 лет назад

    Simply & it works. Thanks

  • @Mictlan.x
    @Mictlan.x 6 лет назад +3

    This was short but extremely educational :D
    I hope one day you make one for voice :3

  • @Yozi6414
    @Yozi6414 Год назад

    Josh Sooo Talented ❤️

  • @sujja150
    @sujja150 3 года назад

    Thanks you Josh.

  • @schiffdigital
    @schiffdigital 6 лет назад +81

    Hey Josh- I used to work with Glyn a lot in the '80's & '90's and have a slight correction. The left mic just peeks over the floor tom, not above the cymbals.

    • @globalsoundconcerts
      @globalsoundconcerts 6 лет назад +54

      Joe Schiff thanks so much joe! Amazing to hear a first hand account. Looking forward to listening to the difference.

    • @schiffdigital
      @schiffdigital 6 лет назад +23

      Glad to help! You do great work. I love the TDCs.

    • @fullysickrockstar
      @fullysickrockstar 5 лет назад +21

      This is fucking cool

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 11 дней назад +1

      That is awesome! Thank you for the knowledge

  • @97gile
    @97gile 6 лет назад

    more of this please

  • @jeanplayapex
    @jeanplayapex 3 года назад

    He’s a wonderful man

  • @ChrisDuquez
    @ChrisDuquez 6 лет назад

    This is so awesome. I just recently downsized my interface from an 8 input to a 2 input audio interface, so this helps me work with what I got haha!

  • @BuddyCoopers
    @BuddyCoopers 6 лет назад

    Josh does a fantastic job.

  • @Vnzo
    @Vnzo 3 года назад +3

    any1 else watching this even though they don't plan on recording drums anytime soon lol?

  • @anthonynunyabizness9989
    @anthonynunyabizness9989 3 года назад

    This was excellent advice.

  • @GlobalPartyStarters
    @GlobalPartyStarters 2 месяца назад

    This was such a great video, I know this was 6 years ago, so maybe time for a follow up video, where he can actually show the drum tracks in his DAW and how he goes about mixing a Tiny Drums session? Please 🙏

  • @dtrio3996
    @dtrio3996 3 года назад +1

    So this is the guy behind the incredible mix of every tiny desk concert

  • @tbhv
    @tbhv 4 года назад

    this is actually amazing

  • @wellrod
    @wellrod 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot for your tips!!!

  • @bluesbuster2000
    @bluesbuster2000 6 лет назад +1

    More!!!!! Thx.

  • @RMuliaina
    @RMuliaina 3 года назад +4

    We need one of these videos from the videographer who filmed adele's tiny desk 👍

  • @fachas54
    @fachas54 3 года назад

    Nice tips. Congratulations!!!. Greetings from Mexico City

  • @SFTbeats
    @SFTbeats 6 лет назад

    This was great!

  • @flaviotelirio5538
    @flaviotelirio5538 6 лет назад

    Thank NPR Music !

  • @bigwilly528
    @bigwilly528 6 лет назад +1

    Hummingbirds are so nice 👍🏻

  • @nouslesdeux5j100
    @nouslesdeux5j100 6 лет назад

    All the best i wish you..
    Greats from Germany ☀️☀️😎

  • @mr.tutchi
    @mr.tutchi Год назад

    you are a genius my friend!

  • @matteotambussi
    @matteotambussi 6 лет назад

    I Love you Josh, you're super. :)

  • @kylejamusic
    @kylejamusic 6 лет назад

    thank you! really interesting

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat 3 года назад +1

    Lovely & Fabulous tips darling.

  • @jasonvotaw5966
    @jasonvotaw5966 4 года назад

    Great Video!

  • @erlendjulieb1760
    @erlendjulieb1760 Год назад

    YES, finaly we get introduced to the legend himself.

  • @fattmusiek5452
    @fattmusiek5452 8 месяцев назад

    Love it

  • @BoredPandaNomNom
    @BoredPandaNomNom 5 лет назад +1

    The genius!

  • @EarleMonroe
    @EarleMonroe 6 лет назад

    I know next to nothing about recording and engineering. It was cool to learn some things from this.

  • @ayoungethan
    @ayoungethan 3 года назад +3

    I would love a general walkthrough/overview of how he gets such consistently good sound in such a tight spot from so many different artists...what's his mindset? process?

  • @clancybrett8414
    @clancybrett8414 Год назад

    The sheer number of times ive watched this video when recording drums is astronomical

  • @SwimwearDepartment
    @SwimwearDepartment 6 лет назад

    We did ours with a single overhead. Shoulda used the knee!!! I hope our entry is still eligible.

  • @plainsimple7726
    @plainsimple7726 6 лет назад

    more !!

  • @nebelgeist
    @nebelgeist 3 года назад +2

    nice tutorial :D
    Really helpful, thanks
    just an idea how to make these tutorials even more helpful: If you play the same groove every time it's much easier to actually hear the differences between the recording methods :)
    Else you might be fooled by the groove or the style of playing. For me the first Take with one mic sounded the best, but thats probs because I liked the groove the most :)

  • @BD-lq4id
    @BD-lq4id 6 лет назад +2

    Let me just say the sound in Tiny Desk Concerts is always amazing!!! So this is so cool to see why and learn at the same time!! I wonder, is the EQ done live or is it preset in rehearsals and never touched again? Great stuff!!

  • @faridvargas8881
    @faridvargas8881 3 года назад

    that very first rim hit really scared the bejeezus out of me

  • @Alpha_7227
    @Alpha_7227 3 года назад

    I love this video. sure Anderson Paak and all the other great musicians play brilliantly, but without you guys being so professional and expert at your job, then the best musicians will sound average. Thanks for explaining so it was so easy to understand. Cheers.

  • @kjones311
    @kjones311 6 лет назад +2

    KEXP vs TND mic crews need to be a throwdown

    • @taurtue
      @taurtue 4 года назад

      KEXP sucks totally in comparison with TDC

  • @ChrisWhittenMusic
    @ChrisWhittenMusic 3 года назад +2

    Oh man - Tip #3 - don't wrench your mic stands into different positions without loosening the tightening screws first, unless you want to throw away your nice mic stands every couple of years.

  • @prestonfulks4360
    @prestonfulks4360 6 лет назад

    it's tiny it's tiny and it fits right in

  • @gangofgreenhorns2672
    @gangofgreenhorns2672 3 года назад +2

    Can we get another one of these that's like an hour long? lol

  • @frozennbutter6425
    @frozennbutter6425 3 года назад

    i wish somebody looked at me the way James looks at Josh

  • @TimSuliman
    @TimSuliman 3 года назад

    We Will Rock You was people stomping on a stage, but your point is well made.

  • @ATLS702
    @ATLS702 6 лет назад

    GOLD

  • @ProducedbyAleex
    @ProducedbyAleex 3 года назад +4

    Maybe it's just me, but I love the sound of the 1 mic technique...

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez 6 лет назад

    yessss