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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
  • Every year it seems like free agent NHL players are choosing to not sign with Canadian NHL teams - but why? Today we dive into a few reasons as to why players may prefer to play south of the boarder.
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:38 Media
    4:54 Weather
    6:44 Tax
    8:41 What Does The Future Hold?
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  • @richierich398
    @richierich398 5 месяцев назад +99

    This video Should be titled why some players prefer to play in US than Canada

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +10

      Very true! That’s the concept of the video ya, but it’s RUclips, they like drama haha

    • @codeecomah5920
      @codeecomah5920 5 месяцев назад

      Bcuz Canada is a Communist Shithole.. oh excuse me... "Socialist Shithole". same thing. I hope a Canadian Team NEVER wins the Stanley Cup bcuz its poetic justice. what do u expect when homegrown players don't even want to represent their own country?! I hope for ur country that Pierre Polilevre knocks sum fucking FREEDOM and DIGNITY into ur BULLSHIT COMMIE TRUNRA. VIVA LE POLILEVRE!

    • @chocoball604
      @chocoball604 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@beyond_thebenchclickbait is bogus

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@chocoball604It’s a fine line, we’ll keep it straight up in the future 🤘🏼

    • @infoherrington2529
      @infoherrington2529 5 месяцев назад +1

      You’re being very legit. These guys are clowns, Canada is terrible.

  • @jamiepike6909
    @jamiepike6909 5 месяцев назад +31

    There should be allowances with the cap that take into account tax players play on their salary.

    • @JoeyVilleneuve
      @JoeyVilleneuve 5 месяцев назад +4

      Conversely, all players should be taxed at the rate where the NHL is based as a business. (New York City) I know the players are technically employees of each team, and not the league, but that's an easy fix - have the league be the company, and the teams just be various "departments"

    • @jamiepike6909
      @jamiepike6909 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@JoeyVilleneuve that an alternate, but think you need to keep the league and teams separated on some things. Great idea though.

    • @kylemeridith9611
      @kylemeridith9611 5 месяцев назад

      lmfao wtf? no? so canadians teams just get shafted by some USA idiots sitting at a desk? ur a dumbass@@JoeyVilleneuve

    • @incumbentvinyl9291
      @incumbentvinyl9291 5 месяцев назад

      @@jamiepike6909 ''tax players play''
      Hah!
      Oh, it gets worse.
      *alternative
      You do not know what the word ''alternate'' means.
      Get an education.

  • @Bebopvicious00
    @Bebopvicious00 5 месяцев назад +10

    Same thing is true of californian teams. Players rather play somewhere where there are less taxes

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Big time tax in Cali!

    • @phillip7853
      @phillip7853 5 месяцев назад +4

      Must be why all the best players in the league run to Florida...

    • @Thrashman-ye4cf
      @Thrashman-ye4cf 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@phillip7853for sure, most players come from cold environments, so the idea of beautiful weather and more money on your checks is a no brainer to choose lol

  • @SmokingGiraffe
    @SmokingGiraffe 5 месяцев назад +3

    I'm Canadian, Its 6am in Canada, Hockey practice, then school and then back to hockey practice. home for dinner and then out to the ODR(outdoor rink) for more hockey

  • @JayZed-tl5bc
    @JayZed-tl5bc 5 месяцев назад +3

    Canada is a wonderful nation…long underestimated and often ignored by the U.S. at large. My parents are Canadian. I used to spend summers in Manitoba. In short, I love Canada. As a 52 year-old American, my outlook is shaped by experience and wisdom. With that said, I wouldn’t want to play in Canada if I were an NHLer in my 20s or 30s…not if I could make more money AND remain familiar with all the nuances of life in the States I grew up with. Life in the two countries IS different. That doesn’t necessarily make one better than the other. They are just different.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Solid comment! Thanks for sharing!

    • @Thrashman-ye4cf
      @Thrashman-ye4cf 5 месяцев назад +3

      I’m sure Canada is great. Their government on the other hand…is creepy.

    • @rduke325
      @rduke325 5 месяцев назад

      No, the insane Canadian tax rate and extreme far left politics of Canada make a black hole for anyone with half a brain.

  • @crash8729
    @crash8729 5 месяцев назад +12

    It ain't the fan base in Canada that's the problem, simply it's Canada's tax bite. The NBA compensates the Americans playing for the Raptors because of Canada's income tax.

    • @Rmo94
      @Rmo94 5 месяцев назад +2

      Some states have high taxes too. Like California and new york. Some provinces have lower taxes like Alberta

    • @justinbutera8945
      @justinbutera8945 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Rmo94 As someone who lives in Toronto and who is working on a move to California I'll take equal taxation for a MUCH better living experience.

    • @Rmo94
      @Rmo94 4 месяца назад

      @justinbutera8945 Yes thats true, but a hockey player in California wont get near the endorsements etc...

  • @alelectric2767
    @alelectric2767 5 месяцев назад +9

    As Canadian still living here. Do I wanna play in Canada or Florida where I can walk out of the rink in flip flops and shorts. 🧐

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      I mean, sounds kind of nice LOL I hear you tho!

    • @IMAGE_NT_HEADERS
      @IMAGE_NT_HEADERS 5 месяцев назад +6

      If I make the NHL, I'm playing in Canada or Minnesota. Precisely because I hate hot weather and want it to be freezing all the time

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@IMAGE_NT_HEADERS Love it, dedicated to the roots of the game! Haha

    • @Kitfoo77
      @Kitfoo77 5 месяцев назад +4

      Trust me, as someone who plays/coaches in Central FL...walking out of that nice cool rink into 115F with 95% humidity gets to you really quick. I preferred living where it snowed...at least the transition was better!

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@Kitfoo77Great insight, thanks for sharing!

  • @306-fromthestix
    @306-fromthestix 5 месяцев назад +6

    30 years of Bettman fucking Canada

  • @BunnEFartz
    @BunnEFartz 5 месяцев назад +3

    You barely touched on endorsements. A successful player in Canada has the opportunity to make millions in endorsements that a player in the US will never see, Comes with the territory of recognizability that you don't get in the US.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      For sure! We covered reasons why a player would choose the US over Canada. Not the pro’s of playing in Canada. That could be an entire video itself!

  • @JW-km3by
    @JW-km3by 5 месяцев назад +7

    The taxes are huge when competing against a southern team that also has no winter. The ridiculous pandemic response up here has probably scared even more off. NHL playing in empty rinks up here was insane, people need to go to prison for the preposterous lockdowns that took place in Canada.

    • @smorgdonkey
      @smorgdonkey 5 месяцев назад

      Dude, you can watch video after video of American citizens being physically removed from businesses over masking, then being arrested. Don't think for a moment that Canada's response to COVID was worse than the USA. In fact, the entire 'trucker' issue began when the USA insisted that cross border truckers be va X ed. That's where it started. Trudeau isn't original enough to come up with his own stuff so he just copied it.

  • @dalriada
    @dalriada 5 месяцев назад +8

    Canadian teams are practically a separate league within the NHL. There are not many advantages to this.

  • @Nay-kp6uu
    @Nay-kp6uu 5 месяцев назад +3

    I'm not sure, I could be wrong. But I think there was some movie that came out over 20 years ago. I think a cartoon? A song that said "Blame Canada. With all their hockey hulabalooo, Blame Canada!" Maybe that was a fever dream.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Lol Doesn’t ring a bell but maybe!

    • @phillip7853
      @phillip7853 5 месяцев назад +3

      South Park

    • @TayR0C
      @TayR0C 5 месяцев назад

      "And that bitch Anne Murray, too."

    • @codeecomah5920
      @codeecomah5920 5 месяцев назад +1

      that song still rings true!

  • @redfive5856
    @redfive5856 5 месяцев назад +1

    There being only 7 Canadian NHL teams vs. 25 in USA has nothing to do with it.

  • @Not_Lenny88
    @Not_Lenny88 2 месяца назад +1

    The camera shutter sound is incredibly annoying

  • @joeq.public281
    @joeq.public281 5 месяцев назад +8

    As a Canadian Habs fan, I would rather play in Miami, Tampa, or L.A.
    The reasons are simple. Less pressure
    Lower taxes (more $)
    Better weather
    As a multi-millionaire,, I'd enjoy my beach house, boat, year round golf.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Those are definitely major, major factors in decision making for free agents.

    • @tomfilipiak3511
      @tomfilipiak3511 5 месяцев назад +1

      Players,make a hell of money now,compared to years ago,now a lot can pick and choose!

    • @tami3456
      @tami3456 5 месяцев назад +1

      Lol California has high taxes...

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@tami3456the highest!

    • @doniciovelasquez9904
      @doniciovelasquez9904 5 месяцев назад +1

      Florida is mad expensive the only thing that's exceptional in Florida is the great hurricane every year.....

  • @jetsdude8
    @jetsdude8 5 месяцев назад +3

    About 90% off the time when a player wants out of a Canadian team their career ends up worse. With the Jets alone I'd argue: Ladd, myers, kane, Dubois, roslovic, Laine, burmistrov, armia, niku, chiarot, copp all worse. Trouba I'd say neutral. Better off maybe tanner glass and thorburn cuz they at least won?

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      I wouldn’t say 90% of the time but maybe it’s just because you don’t hear about that player much after they leave the team.

  • @phillip7853
    @phillip7853 5 месяцев назад +2

    Where the hell did the title "NHL Hockey Is In Trouble" come from? Not remotely related to anything that was covered.

  • @jeremylando40
    @jeremylando40 5 месяцев назад +3

    Tkachuck was traded not a free agent…

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +2

      Correct! Ultimately because he didn’t want to sign in Calgary.

  • @dandylion18
    @dandylion18 5 месяцев назад +2

    If you just want to be a working hockey player, play in the USA. If you want the opportunity to be a legend, play in Canada. If and when the Leafs win the cup, those guys will be worshipped like gods long after they're dead. The average Las Vegas resident can't name a single player on the reigning Cup champions roster.

  • @mariodejuliis4493
    @mariodejuliis4493 5 месяцев назад +1

    Well thanks for dumping on the land that created this great game and the hockey families that give so much to hockey and the NHL.

  • @petrj.freddiedrahovzal2154
    @petrj.freddiedrahovzal2154 5 месяцев назад +1

    I would play for food and housing anywhere in the NHL...

  • @thecorporal1154
    @thecorporal1154 5 месяцев назад +1

    I thought The Curse of the Bambino was going to be the longest-running sports curse. However, that all changed on December 6th, 1995. While the Bambino's curse only affected one team, The Curse of Patrick Roy looks like it's affecting an entire country's worth of teams from getting the Cup! 👍

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      Haha Dec 6th 1995, a night Habs fans, and Canadians will never forget!

  • @devildog5354
    @devildog5354 5 месяцев назад +1

    Florida Panthers is not a "small market" American team. Miami metro population is over 6 million. Calgary metro is less than 1.5 million...

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Markets aren’t judged on population size. Factors such as revenue, TV viewership, fan base size, media attention etc are all considered in. But overall small markets I think you could say are “non-tradition” hockey markets.

  • @user-yg1dg6xm2g
    @user-yg1dg6xm2g 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great narration!

  • @incumbentvinyl9291
    @incumbentvinyl9291 5 месяцев назад +2

    0:04 - That's what you came up with? Hahaha!

  • @brentstarkes9682
    @brentstarkes9682 5 месяцев назад +2

    If they don’t wanna play in Canada… don’t! 😊. BTW, count the number of Canadians on the best performing NHL teams. Your Welcone!

  • @Conquerer.D.K
    @Conquerer.D.K 5 месяцев назад +1

    The media point is the reason why the NHL will never grow to their potential. All other high level sports league has a lot of scrutiny.

  • @joeycmore
    @joeycmore 5 месяцев назад +2

    Only the money part you have correct. Comparing Canadian teams and market environments to US is apples to oranges. NFL and NBA players in the US get the same scrutiny as hockey players in Canada.
    The sad fact is that most of the decisions on where to play come down to dollah dollah bills. As you point out, higher taxes, currency exchange and bigger off-rink opportunities make it difficult to keep elite players on Canadian teams. As you cited Tchuk and Goudreau, they are perfect examples. Tchuk is American and got a pile of $$$ to go to Fla. And Johnny cashed in, as Calgary struggled with a rebuild and his playoff prospects appeared grim.
    Follow the money people. It's almost always the money.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Great points, Gaudreau and Tkachuk actually left to be closer to family. I believe they left money on the table, or the same amounts in Calgary. But overall, agree!

    • @davidgoreskidrums
      @davidgoreskidrums 5 месяцев назад +1

      As a young dude with a lot of money, South Florida sounds like a much nicer place to live then Canada 🤷‍♂️

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@davidgoreskidrums The scenery is nice 👀 haha

    • @joeycmore
      @joeycmore 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@davidgoreskidrums home is always home... if you're treated like a god and it's snowing, or sun and nobody? Some prefer the limelight. Tkchuk went closer to family.

    • @georgeblair3894
      @georgeblair3894 5 месяцев назад +2

      "Same level of scrutiny". The Lightning players have admitted - they can walk down the street in Tampa, St. Petersburg (Fla) and they aren't bothered because nobody recognizes them. Sure Crosby and Malkin would draw a crowd in PIttsburgh, but would the average Yinzer know who Joe Pavelski or Barkley Geaudreu are?

  • @dionball3627
    @dionball3627 5 месяцев назад +1

    Vancouver has good weather most of the year. Playing in Toronto is great. They really will overpay you and you always have a short spring. Head home after the first round is over and play some golf.

  • @demarcdegasol
    @demarcdegasol 5 месяцев назад +47

    You dont mention the benefits of playing in Canada. More fans, more endorsements, a legacy. If you won a cup in a Canadian market you are a legend for the rest of time. Im talking fourth liners and backup goalies. I guarantee the average person in vegas or ft lauderdale doesnt know the names of anyone on their nhl squad.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +3

      Absolutely! HUGE upside to playing in Canada for all those reasons 100%

    • @JedReisner
      @JedReisner 5 месяцев назад +19

      Canada doesn't win cups anymore.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      The curse is real lol

    • @DR.Knightmare
      @DR.Knightmare 5 месяцев назад +3

      You know there's a lot of transplants from the midwest, the northeast and Canada in Vegas, right? Hell, in my neighborhood alone there's a couple from Toronto, a guy from Edmonton and another from Calgary.

    • @ramprat5812
      @ramprat5812 5 месяцев назад +4

      You don’t even actually need to win shit, I’m from Calgary and Iginla is absolutely revered here. I have to imagine it’s the same with Naslund and Sundin and anyone who played for the same team for a long time.

  • @SportsPlug-cp1eq
    @SportsPlug-cp1eq 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm from edmonton and I don't blame them. I used to begrudge the idea but now I totally get it

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Never been to Edmonton myself, but Ive heard the winters can be pretty brutal!

  • @tygriffith7893
    @tygriffith7893 5 месяцев назад +2

    Don’t feel bad for Johnny at all should have stayed…

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Columbus…where careers go to die lol

  • @ThreeLions82
    @ThreeLions82 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Blue Jackets have been average ever since I can remember. Have they ever become a legitimate threat?

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      They had a moment in 2019, made some trades for a cup run. Swept the Lightning in the first round, got bounced in the second round. But no, have never really been a legit threat.

    • @ThreeLions82
      @ThreeLions82 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@beyond_thebench That's the only instance I can remember but even than they weren't a legitimate Cup threat. It's not a team I would choose if I wanted to win a Cup.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ThreeLions82 Agree! They’ve had difficulty creating any winning momentum .

  • @TheDeepShallow
    @TheDeepShallow 5 месяцев назад +13

    Canada, as a Nation is very lost. I weep for what Canada was even 10 years ago….

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      You’re not alone my friend

    • @BunnEFartz
      @BunnEFartz 5 месяцев назад +2

      @TheDeepShallow Oh really? Have you seen the US for the past eight years?

    • @doniciovelasquez9904
      @doniciovelasquez9904 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@BunnEFartzlol nothing but truth right here

    • @Paul-eb9qj
      @Paul-eb9qj 5 месяцев назад +1

      Nowhere near what the US has become

    • @doniciovelasquez9904
      @doniciovelasquez9904 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Paul-eb9qj word

  • @MikeS29
    @MikeS29 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good video, but I never quite got to the part where the NHL is in trouble.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks!! It’s not in trouble 😉 we love the NHL!

  • @miketaylorID1
    @miketaylorID1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Re. the tax argument - there’s great benefit for players to sign contracts in a tax free state like florida (is only one that I can think of)- over skating for Canadian clubs, sure but playing your home games at MSG may be more costly than for canadian teams - there’s federal taxes, state taxes and New York City Income Tax. Players that live across the river in NJ get to pay that income tax as well - IS THAT FOUR tax returns? Yeesh - that league minimum hardly covers the cost of living!!!
    I Wonder about European players - My son did a year in Norway and we were shocked at how much he had to pony up!! those countries have VAT taxes and an extremely high percentage on income and are required to kick in for healthcare too. I wonder what taxes are expected from citizens who work outside the country. whole lot to consider -

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      A lot of factors to consider yup!

    • @paulmackay7265
      @paulmackay7265 5 месяцев назад

      In regards to your last sentence; America is one of the few nations where citizens still have to file an income tax return even if they no longer live there. When I lived in California I wasn't required to file a Canadian income tax return. But my wife, who I met there, still has to file with the IRS even though she hasn't lived there for 20 years now.
      And you have to remember. Players play taxes in every market they play in. So while there is no state income tax in Texas....a Stars player will pay California income taxes for the games they play there.
      Their accountants are likely very busy people. Four tax returns? Closer to 25 likely. Yeesh! Hahaha. Needless to say, I doubt they do their own returns. Actually I think all of that will be handled by their management teams. Who are also getting between 3-5% of the player contract for services rendered, which go far beyond just negotiating the contract. For instance they will handle a lot of the logistics if a player is traded (housing, schools for the kids...so on and so on.)
      It's easy to think "Wow two million dollars a year to play hockey, lucky guy" but the truth is players likely only see half of that money. Not a bad living at all right? I'd take it quite happily. But your average player who may only have a five year career? They may not be as set for life as you think.
      That said. It's a nice start to the next stage of your life considering most players are done by their late 20s. I didn't have a few million in the bank when I was 27. Not even sure I had a thousand. Hahaha

  • @thefonz4364
    @thefonz4364 5 месяцев назад +2

    What a voice you have, hot DAMN! 👍

  • @arionrowan5273
    @arionrowan5273 5 месяцев назад +2

    Am pretty sure players are pondering their tax bracket when in game seven of a series ending playoff game. 😅

    • @redhawk7002
      @redhawk7002 5 месяцев назад

      You're right, but I will guarantee you that every pro athlete has an agent/business manager behind him that is thinking about it 24/7/365.

    • @patrickhall6627
      @patrickhall6627 5 месяцев назад

      What a poor argument. It implies they don't do it at all, which is laughably false. They also probably aren't thinking about their family, which by your logic would imply they don't care about that either.
      Probably they are focused on the game, as that is the most important thing going on in their life, at that moment. As they should be.

  • @onedisasterattatime9116
    @onedisasterattatime9116 5 месяцев назад +1

    taxes

  • @FrankTheTank710
    @FrankTheTank710 5 месяцев назад +1

    OP is a scout for the Dallas Stars 😂

  • @arthurok327
    @arthurok327 5 месяцев назад +1

    Howdy,
    Just like so many other athletes, in other sports, hockey athletes are no different, they have become spoiled, and soft, money means more to them, than the game that they first started playing, with dreams to maybe one day, make the NHL and hoist the Stanley Cup over their heads, in Victory..
    Peace

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      You ain’t wrong my friend 🤘🏼

  • @justinfalzon6854
    @justinfalzon6854 5 месяцев назад +1

    taxes, shitty toxic fan bases, and extremely cold temperatures in places like calgary and winnipeg.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Toxic may not be the right word…Extremely passionate and desperate. Lol

    • @justinfalzon6854
      @justinfalzon6854 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@beyond_thebench it's toxic.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@justinfalzon6854 😂 fair

  • @PGLAMB1978
    @PGLAMB1978 5 месяцев назад +1

    this is not news to anyone. it's been the same story for decades.

  • @upcyclegarage7685
    @upcyclegarage7685 5 месяцев назад +1

    the real reason was facing Mcdavid every playoffs..

  • @Cigarsnguitars
    @Cigarsnguitars 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’d like to get $20 of whatever you’re smokin’. Do you deliver to the US? Of course you do. Nicer weather.

  • @deanmccullough7967
    @deanmccullough7967 5 месяцев назад +1

    Edmonton is the most northern team and has a lot of talent.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Because guys wanna play with the best player in the world haha

  • @9and7
    @9and7 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is anyone surprised?

  • @V.O.Y.S.
    @V.O.Y.S. 5 месяцев назад +1

    a reminder fan is short for fanatic

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 5 месяцев назад +2

    start a Canadian hockey league separate from U.S. teams?

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Might be cool! What other cities would you add to an all Canadian hockey league?

    • @invertedxxxi
      @invertedxxxi 5 месяцев назад +2

      They actually have one already. The CHL.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@invertedxxxi They don’t get paaaaid tho, unless you’re the London Knights haha

    • @blackberrythorns
      @blackberrythorns 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@beyond_thebench the irony of this is amazing, the nhl was the canadian league. every trophy and award in the game is named after a canadian. the stanley cup doesn't belong to the nhl, it's on loan. if you americans want your own league it's called the ahl.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@blackberrythornsI’m Canadian! The NHL is nothing without Canada, I think everyone would agree with that. As the game grows however, and more US and international players are rostered. You can’t deny that less and less players care about playing for a Canadian team.

  • @jetsdude8
    @jetsdude8 5 месяцев назад +1

    League desperately needs another lockout to get non gaurunteed contracts

  • @jsm8505
    @jsm8505 5 месяцев назад +19

    The media argument is nonsense. There is media pressure in Montreal and Toronto, sure. But that is nothing compared to what NFL players go through. I am highly dubious of any pro player that complains about that. You want to play at the highest level,?Then you will get scrutinized. Don't like it? The KHL would love to have you. Also, want to lose fans respect? Be a millionaire that PLAYS A SPORT for a living, then complain about your financials.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +4

      Extremely valid point! The NFL is for sure a different beast than the NHL. All we’re saying is the media/ fan pressure in Canada is higher than in the US. Some players can handle it, some don’t wanna deal with it and choose not to.

    • @heathclark318
      @heathclark318 5 месяцев назад +6

      Well that is tone deaf if you actually listen to PLAYERS. Ryan O'Reilly said if definitely played a major part to signing in Nashville who are playing great hockey. Oh wait there is more just from Toronto as Luke Schenn followed O'Reilly out of Toronto and onto Nashville. Tkachuk and Gaudreau both mentioned to media scrutiny and quality of life outside hockey were both mentioned. Matt Duchene chose Dallas. OEL chose Florida etc etc Just look at the players leaving Canadian teams and signing with American teams, then compare those moves to positions of NEED with current Canadian contenders. Then ask why they didnt sign. It WASNT the money. Now those last three I dont have concrete evidence it was the media as in the PLAYER actually saying it played a part of their decision, but it DOES play a major role in a players decision, to say otherwise is naïve or just ignorant of life.

    • @icecoldpolitics8890
      @icecoldpolitics8890 5 месяцев назад +3

      Bruh Hockey players arent the same as NFL players they just aren't. Also we have actual verifiable accounts from players where their major complaint as to why they don't wanna play in Canada is because they are gonna recognized whenever they go out on the town and not be left alone and the Media is relentless and ruthless. Some Players shine under the pressure and do good others don't want that.

    • @phillip7853
      @phillip7853 5 месяцев назад +2

      What does the NFL or your feeling towards players have to do with anything? These are reasons (as given by actual players) that they prefer playing in US markets. And as a whole, NFL and NHL players are very different. NHL players are more humble, laid-back people.

    • @jsm8505
      @jsm8505 5 месяцев назад

      Simple mathematics. Fewer games, and shorter careers = more scutiny.@@phillip7853

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 5 месяцев назад +1

    enjoy team development

  • @user-xg8ig6zx5r
    @user-xg8ig6zx5r 5 месяцев назад +1

    So players making millions can not handle the pressure lol.
    The ONLY reason is the lower pay because of taxes and other US citys offer no tax for NHL players so really unfair advantage that should never be allowed!

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      States in the US don’t offer no tax to NHL players. Some states just have lower income tax and therefore are more appealing.

    • @josegonzalez6004
      @josegonzalez6004 5 месяцев назад +1

      It’s not the pressure. But when your family is getting bullied shit from fans it’s kinda stupid. Fans need to respect and learn to leave their families out it.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@josegonzalez6004 Also a great point! Definitely been some cases of this over the years.

    • @Fatblue246
      @Fatblue246 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@beyond_thebenchmany have no income tax at all, Florida for example

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@Fatblue246 Thus why players like it there! Haha

  • @donniedoesdishes
    @donniedoesdishes 5 месяцев назад +1

    nice video

  • @kevinmcleod7580
    @kevinmcleod7580 5 месяцев назад +1

    Makes winning here really important ,! You don't wanted to get noticed go golfing ! If you win here you will be remembered a lifetime from now ! Can't say as much about other sports . I'm not believing any of there comment s about playing here they get paid big dollars to key word is PLAY here in canada or any where far as the money goes . Why not say due to my inability to win I Canada I'll go elsewhere to play .

  • @jesse33cdn
    @jesse33cdn 5 месяцев назад +2

    Let me tell you, NOTHING, and i mean NOTHING! would please me more than if Canada left the NHL! and we're taking LORD STANLEY'S CUP With Us!, We'll get on just fine without you! THANK YOU! ....🇨🇦♥️🇨🇦....

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Damn! I don’t know how I feel about this lol

    • @Bushman9
      @Bushman9 5 месяцев назад +1

      That Covid year where all the Canadian teams only played each other was awesome.
      The rivalry reached playoff like levels in many games.
      I could have stayed in that version of the league for good.

  • @Evan-dc6mt
    @Evan-dc6mt 5 месяцев назад

    The fact you included Vancouver in your Canadian list over Calgary and Edmonton show you know nothing

  • @shirleydaley5335
    @shirleydaley5335 5 месяцев назад +1

    80% or more of pro athletes love being in the spotlight, that's where the endorsement come from lol, only in Canada and hockey do you hear this bs agreement

  • @cblification
    @cblification 5 месяцев назад +2

    This guy just put a climate change segment into a video about hockey. 😂😂

  • @hendersongalbreath1072
    @hendersongalbreath1072 5 месяцев назад +6

    Cheer up, Canadian NHL teams, you're still an invaluable asset to the development of players who will one day play for competent organizations who actually win Stanley Cups and don't manage to drive away their best players in a perpetual cyclone of disappointment, delusion, and denial. Florida's a nice place, Willy. You'd look good with a Bolt on your chest.

  • @shirleydaley5335
    @shirleydaley5335 5 месяцев назад +2

    As a Canadian myself, and I hate to say it, But the States is just the overall better place to live,

  • @briansmith2125
    @briansmith2125 5 месяцев назад +1

    Trudeau. Period.

  • @vitogaleno6041
    @vitogaleno6041 5 месяцев назад +1

    This video would have been much better without all the references to Wayne Crapsky, the greatest opportunist any sport has ever know

  • @joshuaneal7552
    @joshuaneal7552 5 месяцев назад +1

    5:07 Areners

  • @gravyholicbear
    @gravyholicbear 5 месяцев назад

    Canada just sucks. If I walked up to the border right now and told the Canadian border patrol their country sucks, they would just lower their heads in shame and say, “Well, it’s not all bad. Would you like to come have a look for yourself?” To which I would reply, “No, thank you.”

  • @a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi
    @a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi 5 месяцев назад +5

    Honestly would you rather have people care too much about you or not care at all? That’s basically the contrast between Canadian and American markets. Sure if you’re successful you have US fans cheering but how many of them are bandwagoners?

    • @heathclark318
      @heathclark318 5 месяцев назад +5

      lol bandwagoners.... What does that even mean? I love how the NHL loves talking about growing the game then has people like you saying oh yeah but A he's a bandwagnor ehhh. I have liked, liked this player since he was in Atom league. I mean really how do you call yourself a fan of a player if you didnt shake the father of the kids hand at his first midget game? I mean seriously these bandwagoners make me sick....

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      I think it's more about what the player wants tbh. Do they want to create a legacy with their team (Canadian or not). Or do they want to play hockey, make their money and not be bothered. A lot of players want the latter.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      Bandwagoners or not, any intro into hockey for a fan is a positive move to grow the game.

    • @heathclark318
      @heathclark318 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@beyond_thebench 100% Correct answer.

    • @IMAGE_NT_HEADERS
      @IMAGE_NT_HEADERS 5 месяцев назад

      US markets are a lot more dedicated than you might think. The Boston Bruins and the St Louis Blues have some of the most dedicated fans I have seen in the sport. My whole family were crying tears of joy when the Blues won the Cup; it was *that* big of a deal

  • @BC-li6zc
    @BC-li6zc 5 месяцев назад +1

    If I were a NHL player I would never play for a Canadian team. The reason for that is simply taxes.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      It’s worse in some states. But yes, overall better tax situation in the US.

  • @deanmccullough7967
    @deanmccullough7967 5 месяцев назад +2

    Canada has 3 cities in the top 10 in quality of life the usa has none. But being wealthy changes things.

    • @devildog5354
      @devildog5354 5 месяцев назад

      The best quality of life occurs when 'not' living in a 'city'...

  • @dereklacroix3768
    @dereklacroix3768 5 месяцев назад

    What makes Canada less appealing can be summed up in one word. TRUDEAU

  • @thewoodchucker-doug4303
    @thewoodchucker-doug4303 5 месяцев назад +1

    NHL needs to even the tax base, and pay players in same dollars.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      All players actually get paid in USD, even when playing for a Canadian team.

    • @phillip7853
      @phillip7853 5 месяцев назад +1

      They get paid in USD, and how would the league "even the tax base?"

  • @ConfusedCroquet-hg7fh
    @ConfusedCroquet-hg7fh 5 месяцев назад +1

    Get a grip

  • @63shakeandbake
    @63shakeandbake 5 месяцев назад +1

    You don't say, "... a Stanley Cup", you say, "...the Stanley Cup" as there is only one Cup. This is opposed to "...a Super Bowl" since a different Super Bowl trophy is presented each season.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Yes, THE Stanley Cup 🫡

    • @MikeS29
      @MikeS29 5 месяцев назад +1

      That's kinda nitpicky... Bolts won "three Stanley Cups," not "the Stanley Cup three times."

    • @MikeS29
      @MikeS29 5 месяцев назад +1

      Also, you say things like, "He won 4 cups with Edmonton, and another with New York," or "so-and-so didn't win a cup until he was 40."

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@MikeS29 Ya there are many ways of wording it for sure.

  • @yellowsnowman9157
    @yellowsnowman9157 5 месяцев назад +2

    Once you have millions of dollars in your bank account why would you want to live in a remote province in Canada when you could do the same profession in Florida, Texas, or Tennessee?

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      To each their own I guess!

    • @paulmackay7265
      @paulmackay7265 5 месяцев назад +2

      Many do. Primarily European or Canadian born players. America isn't for everyone. Lots of Swedish players stay in Canada after their careers are done. Pretty sure life is good anywhere if you have millions in the bank.

    • @TheSkruds
      @TheSkruds 5 месяцев назад +1

      As a Canadian the only place I’d consider going with millions of dollars is Florida not Texas or Tennessee.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@TheSkruds What about Nevada? 👀

    • @incumbentvinyl9291
      @incumbentvinyl9291 5 месяцев назад +2

      *on
      Why would you want to live in Florida, Texas or Tennessee when you could live in a civilized country with four seasons? Imagine if you have a family. Which place will be safer?

  • @stevenmqcueen7576
    @stevenmqcueen7576 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bullshit title. Nothing in the video indicates in the slightest that the NHL is in trouble. Go Pens!

  • @brinbone2384
    @brinbone2384 5 месяцев назад +6

    just elect pierre

  • @mtbjorng5166
    @mtbjorng5166 5 месяцев назад

    We want Trudeau out

  • @CashMacGregor
    @CashMacGregor 5 месяцев назад +2

    they come from a culture that doesn't embrace the game like canada does. it's why we still dominate the game to this day. don't come here as a player if you aren't made of the right stuff.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Valid! I wouldn’t say Canada is dominating by any means anymore though. Other countries have caught up.

    • @demarcdegasol
      @demarcdegasol 5 месяцев назад +2

      Canada has won 3 of the last 4 Gold medals at the WJC, 2 of the last 3 world championships, dominated the last best on best olympic games, has 43% of nhl players, and by far the most elite nhl players including the best player in the league and the best dman in the league. No one is close.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Last best on best was so long ago tho, 10 years? The gap has closed internationally, I still think Canada is the best. But it’s not like it once was. And who is gonna play in net for Canada in a best vs best tourny??

    • @robbiekeller1353
      @robbiekeller1353 5 месяцев назад

      Arguing Canada’s dominance in hockey sort of proves the videos point. Canada produces the bulk of the best hockey players, but we have to back to over 30 years ago to find a Canadian team with the Stanley Cup. Canada creates the best Hockey players, but why can’t they keep them?

  • @jindl24
    @jindl24 5 месяцев назад +3

    Gary Bettman thanks you for proposing an alternative reason why no Canadian team has won a Cup in 30 years, other than the extremely obvious fact that he’s fixing playoff series so only U.S.-based teams in large markets, or U.S.-based teams with major stars win.

  • @buggernut3643
    @buggernut3643 5 месяцев назад +3

    What’s more, US citizens playing in Canada have to pay income tax to BOTH countries. Even further disincentive for Americans to play here.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +2

      Not sure that’s how it works exactly, I believe you’d just pay tax based on where your primary residence is. But not 100% sure.

    • @austinsroche
      @austinsroche 5 месяцев назад +1

      NHL players pay taxes per game. In states with low tax, they get more take home in a game. 82 games a year they get paid, so players in low tax states get 41 games a year they pay lower taxes.
      Teams like toronto can bypass this slight disadvantage a bit with huge upfront contracts that give a ton of the money before a season starts

    • @phillip7853
      @phillip7853 5 месяцев назад +2

      Not how income tax works...

    • @shaneimler9328
      @shaneimler9328 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@phillip7853 it is how it works. Americans, even working and living in other countries, still have to pay their US taxes. Yes they even have to pay Canadian taxes as well. Isn't America wonderful.

    • @Fatblue246
      @Fatblue246 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@beyond_thebenchthe US requires you to pay taxes when working abroad as well. it’s like one of the few countries on earth where that’s the case lol

  • @sonicsubjunkie
    @sonicsubjunkie 5 месяцев назад +2

    I think you're missing one major point that's a bit tongue in cheek. Ever heard the term she's a Saskatchewan nine but an LA four? Lets be honest these are young guys with hormones, I'm sorry to say this but the cities of Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, in Vancouver are not exactly known for their attractive young ladies. Don't get me wrong I'm sure plenty of them are beautiful but in cities like Los Angeles in cities like Chicago and cities like New York or Tampa it's more frequent.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Hahaha honestly great point! The “site seeing” aspect of some of the cities may help for sure. It’s at least a nice feature for the rookies lol

    • @HDgaming519
      @HDgaming519 5 месяцев назад +1

      another thing to think about is population remember the us has 10 times the population of course theres going to be more beautiful ladies did u consider that lol all those places in canada have around 3 to 5 million people compared to the places in the us with 10 plus million people

    • @trevmac8362
      @trevmac8362 5 месяцев назад

      Duh! A place like Winnipeg has a population of 700,000 and LA has 4 million. Of course it's going to be more frequent. And one's geographical logistical location has no bearing on one's appearance or genetics if you were born in Canada or The United States.. That's like saying people born in Nevada are better looking than people born in North Carolina. Just admit you are mentally challenged

    • @incumbentvinyl9291
      @incumbentvinyl9291 5 месяцев назад

      A moot point.

    • @HDgaming519
      @HDgaming519 5 месяцев назад

      @@incumbentvinyl9291 if ur talking about my point it wasnt really about the video it was about this guys comment the guy says players would not choose to go to canada because there are more hot girls in the USA of course there are how can u even compare the 2 theres bound to be when ur population is 10x thats all my point was ok

  • @PiffLitt-zo4fy
    @PiffLitt-zo4fy 5 месяцев назад +1

    So clickbaity I'm hearing clicks as the video plays

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      The nature of RUclips, but the content is true.

  • @pd8538
    @pd8538 5 месяцев назад +2

    LOL
    the leafs and habs are top 3 for the league for the most valuable teams when this youtube channel going to find time for the mess in Arizona.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +1

      Ya they’re valuable, but doesn’t mean players are flocking to play for them. Arizona is a full video on it’s own haha

    • @Mega-rw8mt
      @Mega-rw8mt 5 месяцев назад +2

      top 3 most valuable as in how much money they have/make? yeah thats the massive fanbases doing that, which - as stated in the video, can sometimes be a negative. and for the Arizona thing i don't think there's that many players that REALLY wanna go to Arizona, i feel like the weather matters the most when considering Arizona because.... their whole lives depend on skating around on ice, now they gotta live in a hot desert? doesn't seem that ideal

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@Mega-rw8mt Franchise worth has a lot to do with the fanbase yes, but a big chunk is also real-estate. Arena’s located in prime downtown locations, thats a big reason why the Rangers are so high. Arizona - I think weather is legit the only positive thing about that franchise, outside of their young talent. A lot of players prefer a warm destination over say a Winnipeg or Edmonton in the winter…

    • @demarcdegasol
      @demarcdegasol 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@beyond_thebenchMatthews re signed with the Leafs, Tavares signed with the Leafs. If you win in Toronto the reward is much much bigger than winning in any American market.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      @@demarcdegasol oh ya big time! Win in a canadian city and you’re a hero forever!

  • @chrisv384
    @chrisv384 5 месяцев назад +1

    can u fact check the climate change pls :D..

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад

      Ask the Canadian Prime minister lol

    • @anthonyfaccaro7118
      @anthonyfaccaro7118 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@beyond_thebench Canada cold, US warm, thats all you had to say. Thing is everyone with a brain knows that. The planet is in a natural warming period, yet we are still considered at the end of the last ice age. Climate change is not a thing, just another means to attempt to control us. Trudeau is satan on earth, happy i dont live in canada.

    • @deanmccullough7967
      @deanmccullough7967 5 месяцев назад

      Ask anyone with a vineyard.

  • @infoherrington2529
    @infoherrington2529 5 месяцев назад

    RIP Canada, thanks Dictator Trudeau

  • @Thomas-cw9ej
    @Thomas-cw9ej 5 месяцев назад +1

    Climate change lol. Ok dude lol

  • @shanemacc
    @shanemacc 5 месяцев назад

    What a literally.. dumb opinion.

  • @katolson8802
    @katolson8802 5 месяцев назад

    Nobody asking why a jew is in charge of the NHL?? 🧐

  • @gambiit08
    @gambiit08 5 месяцев назад +1

    who cares what americans think

  • @carloronaldo6431
    @carloronaldo6431 5 месяцев назад +2

    😂lmao… “Toronto is the nucleus of the hockey universe”… ya ok calm down 🤌 #57yearsoffailure

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  5 месяцев назад +2

      Haha Ya I mean, haven’t won shit in half a century. But it’s still the centre of the hockey world Id say. The damn Hockey Hall of Fame is there! Haha