This video is only going by where players were born. Nobody considers Robyn Regehr Brazilian, as he only lived there for a few months after his birth and was always a Canadian citizen. While you are correct that Bondra identified as Slovak and played for their national team, he is not treated any differently from the other players mentioned in this video.
@@benellison5668 Except Bondra was a citizen of Slovakia for most of his life and represented Slovakia in all of his non-club games. Same could go for Mikita and USA.
Selanne's tie with Mogilny (not mentioned: my personal best favourite player -due to tremendous puck handling skills = #13 DATSUYK!!! The Magician, Fedorov, P.Bure, Mogilny, to name a few!❤
When the video started i thought to myself: Man, i hope he doesn't have Jari Kurri as the finland player, Selanne had 76 goals in his rookie year, not even gretzky had that.. Atleast he got him on the list, and selanne was a great sniper, hated facing him in WC as a swede, felt like he scored everytime he got the puck. Should have mentioned his unbreakable record though. Like you said, no one will beat that, unless they do like the NFL and add games every season until old records are pointless.
@@kamilhoffmann2410 fedorov was magical too. Peter Forsberg should get a mention from Sweden. He had to cut his career short due to injuries, but was a dominant force and led his team to Stanley Cups in his first few years in the league, and he revolutionized offensive checking. Looks small but strong as hell and balance out of this world. Comlete hockey player, except for his lack of care for his own health. Fun to see him smash people bigger than him while someone hanging on his back. But he paid the price unfortunately. Also. 2 WC, 2 Olympic Golds and 2 Stanley Cups. not many in that club.
Peter Bondra (born February 7, 1968, Luck, Ukraine) is a former Slovak ice hockey forward. He excelled in fast skating and was one of the most successful finishers in the NHL. He significantly helped the Slovak national team to win the title of world champion (2002). After ending his active career in October 2007, he became its general manager. Peter's father comes from Jakubian in the district of Stará Ľubovňa. In 1947, his entire family emigrated to Ukraine - the emigration of his family took place involuntarily under the supervision of the Russian Gestapo (NKVD). Thus, tens of thousands of Slovaks were forcibly taken from Slovakia to Bolshevik Russia. He is a member of the Slovak Hockey Club Poprad, where he played the 1985/86 season in the 1st SNHL. In the following year, he made his debut in the Czech-Slovak League as a player for VSŽ Košice. In the next season, 1987/88, he helped this team win the title of Czech-Slovak champion.
🇫🇷 As an honorable mention for a French born player (and having played for French national team all his international career), I would mention : - former goaltender Cristobal Huet, the only French player who has his name engraved on the Stanley Cup, won with the Chicago Blackhawks in 2010 🏆 😉 - forward Pierre-Edouard Bellemare, who played (and lost) 2 Stanley Cup finals, with Vegas (2018) and Tampa Bay (2022), and playing currently with Seattle Kraken 👍
En tout cas pas celui mentionné lol.. j'ai jamais entendu dire qu'il était français, pour moi le 1er ça a été Philippe bozon 🤷♂️ mais Pierre éd c'est celui qui a le meilleur palmarès même s'il n'a pas gagné la coupe Stanley, 2 finales quand même
Ukraine: 1. Ruslan Fedotenko 2. Dmytro Khrystych Both ukrainian born & Ukraine international team players. Moreover, despite all Bondra's individual records and all Krystych' talent and skills, Ruslan Fedotenko is #1 for Ukraine: 2 times Stanley Cup winner including his personal huge impact of 12 Play-Off goals for Tampa in 2004 and 7+7 for Penguins in 2009! So, no chance for great Peter Bondra even in case We would count him as ukrainian.
I agree, Bondra is more Slovak player than Ukrainian. But in my opinion Bondra (17 seasons, 1081 GP, 503G, 892 points) has little better stats than Fedotenko (12 seaons, 863 games, 173G, 366 points). Peter played 5 times in all stars game, not sure how many Ruslan had...
@@SteelRopesI agree, this aspect Ruslan wins 2:0. Play off stats are litle better for Peter 80 GP, 56 P, +5 vs 108 GP, 40 P, -3. 94-95 top scorer in league(lockout... only 47 GP). 97-98 -> top scorer of the league with 52G, same as Salenne... 95-96 4th place in goals right after Lemieux, Jagr and Mogilny, but higher than Sakic, Leclair and rest of the league - still elite. 2000-01 4th place. 96-97 8th in league. Overall Bondra is elite player, numbers are clear as my opinion.
Bondra in not Ukrainian, he is natively Slovak and just was born in Ukraine, leaving it at the age of 2. Then he lived in Slovakia and played for it's national team. Best real Ukrainian is either Dmitri Khristich or Ruslan Fedotenko.
@@РусланБ-ф7щ Из Житника такой же украинец, как из какого-нибудь Онопко, Никифорова или Джигурды, обычный перебежчик туда, где больше бабла. Родиться в Киеве - еще не значит быть украинцем, для этого надо, как минимум, иметь гражданство, играть за сборную и любить свою родину.
@@SergiiL1985 Чтобы быть украинцем достаточно... чтобы родители были украинцами вот и все.Ну по крайней мере я так считаю. На матчах всех звёзд нхл он был с украинским флажком. Этнический украинец ,что не так?
@@РусланБ-ф7щ 48 матчей за сборную страны-террориста, и ни одного - за сборную Украины. Вот что не так. Христич и Федотенко играли за свою страну, а не за ту, где больше бабла платили. Я не то чтоб его обвиняю, это его право и в 90-х так делали многие (и в спорте, и в шоу-бизнесе, и в других отраслях). Но после этого считать его украинцем - увольте.
There’s actually a few more Japanese players who played in the NHL: Hiroyuki Miura (drafted 1992 by the Canadiens, no NHL games played), Yutaka Fukutsuji (drafted 2004 by the Kings, played 4 NHL games)
@@grahamdamberger7130 well Bobby was Canadian. Brett’s mother was American. Having dual citizenship, when Brett got cut from Team Canada, he played for Team USA.
Here’s a not-so-fun fact: The Bill Masterton trophy is named after the only NHL player to die as a result of an in-game injury. His death is the reason why hockey players wear helmets, since his death was caused by a blow to his head. Masterton was a great player for the Minnesota North Stars (now Dallas Stars) and his death was a real tragedy. To this day, he’s the only NHL player to have perished due to an in-game injury
@@darcys842 no problem. There were a few guys in the NHL who hot their necks cut, Richard Zedník, Clint Malarchuk are two I know of. They didn’t die thankfully. Vladimír Vůjtek got his face cut by a skate too.
@@jackoblllllllll that sucks. I may love hockey but the fact that Theres no neck protection or even face protection in major leagues seems incredibly stupid, especially for a sport where people are falling over constantly from hits
We are absolutley underrated hockey nation its somehow disrespectful he doesnt mention slovak NHL play (If we dont count Bondra but he is for some reason from ukraine in here)
Forgot to mention Teemu Selanne Rookie debut where he scored over 70+ goals and won the top goal scorer for the season and had over 130+ points… a record which neither Gretsky or anyone will ever touch.
quite a few UK representatives for honourable mentions. Owen Nolan (born in Belfast, Northern Ireland) Byron Dafoe (born in Worthing, West Sussex) to name a couple
@@TzOn79 Man just said his opinion and you dont have to agree. Thats what the comment section is for, its not whining is stating opinions. I also lost my intrest in this video after he said its based on birth.
He played for Team USA in international games all his career. He had led the US to beat Canada in Olympics and Canada Cup finals. That makes him a US player in my eyes. I would pick him over Patrick Kane as best US player though, as he has way more goals in both regular season and playoff.
Best French player is Mario Lemieux,best Belarusian Wayne Gretzky,best Ukrainian Mike Bosy,best Irish Connor McDavid,best Scot Nathan Mackinnon,best Greek Chris Chelios and so on.))).
This would be my take for the established hockey nations - And I go with a lot of ties = shared greatest as there are to many greats. Austria - Thomas Vanek Belarus - Ruslan Salei Canada - Mario Lemieux & Wayne Gretzky. Czech Republic - Jaromir Jagr & Dominik Hasek. Denmark - Frans Nielsen. Finland - Teemu Selanne & Jari Kurri. Germany - Leon Drasaitle & Olof Kolzig (not born but represented Germany in a lot of tournaments). Kazakstan - Evgeni Nabokov (born there but reprsented Russia in international tournaments) Latvia - Artur Irbe & Sandish Ozolish Norway - Espen Knutsen & Mats Zuccarello Poland - Mariusz Czerkawski. Russia - Sergei Federov & Alexander Ovetchkin. Slovakia - Peter Bondra (born in Ukraine but grew up in Slovakia and represented there national team lots of times, incl there 2002 IIHF WC gold) & Zdeno Charra Sweden - Nicklas Lidstrom & Mats Sundin. Swizserland - Jonas Hiller & Roman Josi. USA - Mike Modano & Chris Chelios
@@thewolfdoctor761 Non of them really represented Canada much in there careers. And while Gordie Howe is a great argument, I have some reservations for Bobby Orr....
@@WarioSaysSo "Today we’re taking a look at The Greatest NHL Player of All Time from Every Country!" Representing, in this case, just means they are from that country. It doesn't mean they represented Canada in multi-nation tournaments.
If you're really nitpicking about birthplaces, then why not pick Stan Mikita for Slovakia? He was born there while it was still part of Czechoslovakia. (And why is the Czech Republic called Czechia today? I hate that name.)
Thomas “Vanek” is a son of two Czech parents. Not a drop of Austrian blood in his veins. Unlike Heatley, who actually has some traceable German ancestry. Bondra lived in Ukraine, but neither of his parents were Ukrainian. The best Czech player should rather be Hašek, arguably the best goalie of all time. Jágr isn’t just the highest scoring European in NHL history. He’s the highest scoring player not named Wayne Gretzky. It’s like saying K2 is the second highest mountain in Asia. It’s technically true, but it’s a lie by omission at the same time.
_(...)It’s technically true, but it’s a lie by omission at the same time.(...)_ by *what* omission?, to not name the highest mountain by *name?...* damn you really collecting nuts... btw. Bondra not just lived in Ukraine, he was born there, too... omission?
@@Z0RDR4CK Don’t pretend, that you don’t understand. Saying, that Jágr is the highest scoring European in NHL history suggests, that there might be plenty non-Europeans ahead of him. In reality, there’s only one person ahead of him. It’s like describing a monarch who holds multiple territories as a ruler of one of the minor ones he holds. It’s not a lie in the legal sense, but it’s an intentional omission, the intention of which is to downplay his achievement. Bondra was born in Ukraine, but isn’t Ukrainian. Vaněk and Kevin Fiala were born in Austria and Switzerland respectively, but both are the sons of two Czech parents.
Just a few missed honorable mentions: obviously, Steve Stamkos has Macedonian roots, as do Athananasiou have Greek, Mika Zibanejad Persian, Nasir Abdelkader and Nasem Kasri Lebanese, Tahir and Max Domi, Arbër and Florian Xekhaj Albanian, Pierre Bellemare French, Darius Kasparaitis Lithuanian, and Joe Šakić Croatian, while Peter, Anton and Marian Šťastný were very much indeed Slovakian. Let the counter arguments flow. I’m merely stating a fact of ethnicity, wherein language, parents, upbringing, traditions and culture as common denominators. The counter arguments will always be paper citizenships, while the factual arguments will be where said players were developed. Examples (not mutually exclusive to hockey): - Auston Matthews, developed in SoCal, not AZ. - Martina Hingis, Swiss born to Slovak parents. - Richard Krajíček, Dutch born to Czech parents. - Monika Széles, ethnic Hungarian from Vojvodina/Vajdaság, Yugoslav national. - Caroline Woźniacki, Danish born to Polish parents. - Bianca Andreescu, Romanian born repping CAN. - Emma Răducanu, born to Romanian parents representing GBR.
Having roots somewhere has nothing to do with your nationality. In almost all cases birth place neither. Almost all of these players listed here play for USA or Canada. They are just born elsewhere.
Paul McLean never play for the French national team and never won a Stanley cup Cristobal Huet did both Also Huet wasn’t a Canadian born in a military base in France He was just French born in St Martin d’heres (near Grenoble)
if you want to win a game, you field forsberg, if you want a player that never made a misstake you pick nicklas lidström. also lidström has the stats and he is reliable.
@@mercurio822 Yeah, I don’t really have a problem with Lidstrom as a pick… Forsberg was an absolute beast for the era that he played in until the foot trouble got to be too much.
@@eggsII it was more than the foot, he played hard, but when people realised how good he was he was hit back even harder. i think stats wise we might see Filip Forsberg or William Nylander going into the points lead for sweden. and We forget Håkan loob the only swedish born player to score 50 goals in a season. he was special aswell. at his peak Håkan loob might just be the best goal scorer of all time for sweden.
@@mercurio822 I’d love to see a calculator that adjusted stats based on the era that they played. There’s no doubt that Loob, W Nylander, & F Forsberg benefit(ed) from less physical, more open style of play. The Nordiques/ Avs really did well getting him in the Lindros trade. Forsberg is one of my all-time favorite players to watch. An amazing combination of skill, vision, intelligence, and toughness.
For Latvia Artūrs Irbe and Kārlis Skrastiņš could have been honorable mentions. Also these players should be clasified after the national team they represent and not theire birth country. Even better, it should be determend by asking each country fans which is the best player and not by NHL career.
Louca Sbisa is a former Swiss National Team Hockey Player. (I'm from Switzerland..) Peter Bondra, as I know, is a former Slovakian National Team Player.
He was born in USSR now Ukraine to a Slovak Father and Polish mother, he lived there for like 2 years and then they moved back to Slovakia. As far as I know he only represented Slovakia thus saying he is the best Ukrainian player is just wrong. Considering there are more suitable candidates for that spot who actually played for Ukraine not just being born there. Badly researched list in my opinion.
Kazakhstan is geographically transcontinental and Nabokov has been playing for team Russia after getting his Russian passport and Russian players is considered “european” in North America even if they were born in Uzbekistan or Siberia.
True Kazakhstan is the heart of Central Asia. But you (North Americans) need to learn a small detail. Not only because considering Kazakhstan as Asia, is the same as considering Russia as Asia, we skip history and all this frontier Sibir tales. At sport level 🇰🇿 play in almost all sports in the European confederation. BTW turkey have less then 5.4% of them territory in Europe and just because of Constantinopla, they go all in to Europe
For France the best French player so far was Cristobal Huet , born in France and French, MacLean was canadian . Huet has a Stanley cup and a nice career as a goalie ! First french was Philippe Bozon with the ST Louis Blues .
Tout à fait d'accord, Christo meilleur gardien français de l'histoire, je l'ai été pendant 25ans je connais un peu.. mc lean j'avais jamais entendu dire qu'il était français mdr
Great video! Stellar production! I always pronounced Nabokov as (Nuh-Bock-Kov) so hearing (Nab-Uh-Kov) was like nails on a chalkboard in my brain 😂Not a big deal by any means but, it stuck out. It kept echoing in my mind for the remainder of the video lol!
Leo Komarov was born in 1987 in the Soviet Union (in current Estonia territory), moved to Finland in 1991. He has lived most of his life in Finland, and he has Finnish and Russian citizenship. He doesn't even speak Estonian. Come on man put him at least in the correct country.
Gretzky is a limited 1 dimensional offensive player. Mario Lemieux or Bobby Orr or Bob Gainey would be my pick for top Canadian. Bob Gainey dominated the game in a way one can only appreciated watching the game live. The Soviet Union head coach called Bob Gainey the greatest player on earth.
Lemieux was not great defensively either. Gretzky still is number 1 (greatest playmaker of all time). Bob Gainey is way down the list, he is simply not good enough, he has some defensive chops, but limited superstar power.
@@JoelER78 nah, both Gainey and Orr could control the pace of the game in a way Gretzky never did. When their teams started running around and got out of control Orr and Gainey had an ability to slow the game down in a way Gretzky could not.
ruclips.net/video/GeoKJb9sbXs/видео.html Gretzky can not get the puck off of the opponent. Gretzky isn't the greatest Canadian. Edmonton had the best team for 7 years and they only won the cup 4 times during the Gretzky era. Also, Canada took some bad losses during the Gretzky era. Canada got lucky with razor thin victories in '84 and '87. '81, '96, and '98 were pretty bad losses. Their only win in the '96 final was an offside goal by Yzerman in OT. The whiner flopped all over the place during the '87 event. Once the team Gretzky is on... removes the puck from the opposition...Gretzky is the greatest offensive play maker though. Canada dominated international competition before Gretzky and dominated after he retired. The whiner did a nice job whining about the officials in the 2002 Olympics though.
@@davenantais9860 Wayne 'The Whiner's lol. Canada demolished the Soviets in Russia. 1 game Canada had 34 minutes in penalties and Russia had 4. Canada still won despite being 2 men short for 7 minutes and 34 seconds.
@@dannycarlow8204 There were many terrible teams from 1979-1998. Whether they relocated, were expansion, or just horrible as even some original six teams were(The Norris and Smythe Divisions lol) ..it's the quality of the teams. A still potent Gretzky played against the awful 92-94 Senators and Sharks. It's why Paul Coffey isn't in the GOAT conversation....it was easier to score in Gretzky's time than in Orrs. The Gap between Orr and Potvin,Park and Robinson in their peak seasons was greater than the 9% gap between Gretzky and Lemieux and Gretzky. No one was a better point accumulater than Wayne. However, it is the spectacular visuals of players like Denis Savard, Mario Lemieux, Gilbert Perrault, Guy Lafleur,Rocket Richard, Pavel Bure, Erik Karlsson and Bobby Orr that bring the maximum excitement to the game. Of course you think Mike Bullard is on par with Messier and Cunneyworth with Glenn Anderson. Messier has the sixth most 100 point seasons, and had his best season without Coffey or Gretzky...yet is not much of a point getter to you. The effectiveness of Coffey, Messier and Anderson on the Power Play freed up Kurri and the Great One for all those Even strength points.
Wow, kind of was always under the impression that Kasparaitis was the greatest Lithuanian born hockey player, didn't know that Zubrus was much more accomplished.
@@vaclevsta Absolutely, but not when someone says he "certainly is the greatest of all time". The implication is that he is the greatest player of all time, which is a ludicrous statement. And even if it was only meant to include Russian players, he is not a certain winner. Too many young people nowadays missed the opportunity to witness what Vladislav Tretiak did to the hockey world in 1972. Also, so many great Russian players never got to the NHL until their careers were at or past their prime.
@@pathfinder1273 Yes it is a shame that legends like Tretiak could not compete in the NHL. But as a result, it is very hard to compare them to players who did. Instead of being angry at younger generations, we should all feel fortunate that we are able to watch great players like Ovechkin and Kucherov.
Brett Hull is born in Canada, so he couldnt qualify as the best US player in this list since this list is based on country of BIRTH, not country of origin. Like Bondra, he is ZERO Ukrainian, just Ukrainian BORN. Peter Bondra was in fact SLOVAK. Same with Paul MacLean, who is in fact ZERO French, but 100% CANADIAN. Same with Owen Nolan, who is NOT an Irish national, but a 100% CANADIAN national. However, Nolan might actually be Irish in ETHNICITY though, which is NOT the same as nationality. You should a video on the all time best NHL players by country of ORIGIN.
@@ivangavnov2860 actually thanks to Kurri grezky has 4 Stanley cups.. Kurri won without grezky but grezky didn't without Kurri.. that by The way IS a fact
@@Kicsupnext The facts are Kurri won in Oilers when gzezky left ,but grezky didn't win anymore. Gzezky IS so overrated. And was so protected. For example Lemiux was much better
Wayne is definitely up there and saw the ice like no other. on the other hand Howe got 103 points at 40. Orr is the only top scorer at his position. Fedorov could do it all. Lemieux came back from cancer. Gretzky scored 9% more in his peak season than Lemieux in his. You could try to Equate Messier,Kurri,Tikkanen and Anderson With Cunneyworth and Shedden or Coffey with Phil Bourque or Moe Mantha....but That's ludicrous. It's always close in player rich countries like U.S. Canada,Russia and Sweden. Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr in Canada. Modano, Cane, Hull, Lafontaine and Leetch in America. Mogilny, Bure, Kucherov, Fedorov and Ovechkin in Russia. Now Draisaitl and Kopitar are the best in their countries by many a country mile.
First one has a misleading detail : Yes at the time thomas Vanek was the highest drafted Austrian player ever, but this as since been equalled when David Reinbacher got drafted 5th by the MTL Canadiens. Paul Mclean for France is such a freakin stretch... That military base was de facto considered Canadian territory until 1964 when it was finally handed back to french military authorities, that's 6 years after he was born. You could easily have gone for Cristobal Huet instead and save you the trouble, Cristo won a Stanley Cup ffs. (Paul Mclean sadly never did as a player but thankfully finally did as an assistant Coach with the RedWings, highlight of an overall amazing career, along with the well-deserved Jack Adams he got awarded a few years later)
What a couple of dandies. As if it is obvious how to pronounce that name properly. The only reason you two know is because you heard the TV announcer say it. Lighten up and come up with meaningful comments. We dont need any more trolls on RUclips.
Honorable mention for sweden I would say Henrik Lundqvist, but Lidstrom is the right choise. Would pick Mike Modano over Patrick Kane honestly :D. Honorable mention for France, Cristobal Huet. Russia honorable mentions: Sergei Fedorov, Pavel Datsuyk
This was a really fun concept to debate before actually watching the video. Some of these I picked the same, Gretzky for Canada, Park for South Korea, Kopitar for Slovenia. Some I did not pick the same, but I like the video’s choice better for various reasons, Tretiak for Russia/Soviet Union but he never played in the NHL, Kölzig for Germany but did not know he was actually born in S Africa, and Lehtinen for Finland but Selanne is definitely better. And some I don’t agree with, Modano for America, Forsberg for Sweden and Hasek for the Czech. Again great fun video to think and debate about.
Too many choices for USA and Canada but: Russia: Federov, Bure, Mogilny, Datsyuk ? USA: Brett Hull, Modano Sweden: Forsberg, Alfredsson, Lidstrom, Sundin ? Slovakia: Bondra, Hossa Finland: Jarri Kurri ? Germany: Olaf Kolzig Netherlands: Daniel Sprong UK: Ken Hodge
lidstrom should have had 10 norris he was snuffed out of atlest 5. in all his years he was the best defenseman in almost every year of his playing carrer.
Slovakia Peter Stastny? (One of the greatest and purest Europeans to lace up in the NHL, Peter Stastny is the fifth-best NHL player to never win a Stanley Cup. He became the first rookie ever to total at least 100 regular season points and went on to score 100 in seven of his first eight seasons, Šťastný is the second-highest scorer of the 1980s, after Wayne Gretzky)+ Bondra
Honorable mentions: Basically any and every offensive player that came to the NHL when the soviet union fell. They took the NHL by storm showing there was some insane players in the secretive USSR. Mogilny, Fedorov, Bure, Larionov, and so on. To think the moscow team at one point had Bure, Fedorov, Mogilny as their offensive line in their youth. Insane talentmachine, shitty government.
You could of thrown Nathan Walker in for Australia, yes he was born in Wales but came to Australia as a baby and started his playing career in Australia until he moved to Europe to get better.
Kolzig (300+ wins, Stanley Cup Final in 1998, Vezina and King Clancy trophies) and Langway (Stanley Cup, 2 Norris trophies, Hall of Fame) dessserved inclusion and full mention. Neither was just "making up the numbers".
@@RoyalMela You obviously didn't read or listen to the video, or not smart enough to grasp it. It said country of birth, not nationality. Kolzig was born in South Africa, Langway in Taiwan.
If this is done based on country players were born in ... Salei, Nabakov, Ozolinsh, and Bondra were born in Soviet Union ... Jager and Mikita were born Czechoslovakia
Lidström is an amazing player but in my opinion the best swede of all time is Forsberg! One of the few players that has "dubbel" trippel gold! 2x Stanley cups, 2x olympic gold and 2x world championship gold!
Both are Slovaks, the difference being Bondra born in USSR was actually raised in Slovakia and represented Slovakia, while Mikita (born as Stanislav Gouth) was sent after WW2 to his uncle who lived in Canada and he represented Canada. This whole list is just weird. It should be based on which country they represented not based on where they were born.
@@ingars31 Thanks a lot for enlightening a marsmen 😃 I actually meant when the were still in their best and not already in their 30s way past their prime ( yes I know Krutov was still 29 when he played the disappointing one season for the Canucks)
Which is greater: the number of great players from different countries or the number of great Canadian players? Hockey equivalent to Mt Rushmore is 100% Canadian: Gretzky, Howe, Orr, Lemieux.
@@father042 Well, whoop-dee-doo! Obviously not everyone does, so have some compassion on those who dont. Who in hell would put a Cz together, anyway? They are totally different sounds. It would be the equivalent of GBordie Hvowe.
Nope. It embarrassing that you'd say way better. Although, it's harder to prove with the forwards vs. defensemen to who is better. Lidstrom was a main reason the Red Wings beat the Avs in the 1990s and then were so successful throughout the early 2000s (No question Forsberg did well against Detroit, but Sakic was better than Forsberg). Lidstrom was our most important player from the late 1990s to his retirement (7 Norris Trophies). He was the rock on defense for us, played 30 minutes a game, dubbed "The Perfect Human" for a reason by his teammates. Salming never approached his level, although he was almost there. Sundin might have become the greatest Swedish superstar, but he did miss out on playing with some better players. Forsberg played with really, really great players (like Lidstrom did), but got injured too much...so an even easier choice as to who was the greatest career wise. First European captain to win a Stanley Cup, First European to win a Conn Smythe Trophy. I'll argue more, but I don't think I really need to.
Why they didnt even mention about Selänne's first year? He did 76 GOALS and 132 points! No one will break that goal record for long time(first year),they will not make that many goals anyway. Maybe Matthews will,someday. Ps. Teemu has most points in Olympics too,43. 🇫🇮
I think that putting players by country of origin makes no sense. For example Leo Komarov - born in Estonia (in USSR to be exact) russian, but he's a genuine product of finnish hockey system.
Hasek > Jagr Hasek : 2 Hart trophies, 6 Vezina trophies ==> A great player Jagr : 1 Hart ==> A very good player whose stats are misleading because of the number of years he played.
Yeah, except, Draisatl does a lot of heavy lifting on that team, stealing pucks, back checking, hitting people, winning face-offs, and no, he can rely on himself. He is an exceptional passer and of course shooter. Last year, he was arguably as important as McDavid in the playoffs for Edmonton...he will be again this year. You can't rely on one guy.
I can understand picking Gretzky for Canada - many people would - but saying nobody else is even close is absurd. Not even mentioning Bobby Orr suggests you are too young to know any better.
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Bondra's parents are Slovak father and Polish mother - he lived 3 years in Ukraine after his birth - he is probably as Ukrainan as Taro Tsujimoto.
Correct, Bondra is not Ukrainian. Best Ukrainians in NHL are Dmitri Khristich and Ruslan Fedotenko.
This video is only going by where players were born. Nobody considers Robyn Regehr Brazilian, as he only lived there for a few months after his birth and was always a Canadian citizen. While you are correct that Bondra identified as Slovak and played for their national team, he is not treated any differently from the other players mentioned in this video.
If place of birth gets you a passport I think that's all that counts and Bondra is Ukrainian
@@benellison5668 Except Bondra was a citizen of Slovakia for most of his life and represented Slovakia in all of his non-club games. Same could go for Mikita and USA.
Ok, let's talk about Gretzky's roots
wth, Bondra is Slovak, not Ukrainian!!!!!
Hovoril na začiatku, že berie do úvahy miesto narodenia, nie štátnu príslušnosť ty ital
The best ukrainian is Khristich
bondra born in ukraina
@@qizosvk Bondra was born in USSR
@@КабоВерде-п8м i am born in czechoslovakia but i am slovak
Bro didn't say anything about Selanne doing 76 goals in the debut season No one will ever top that i mean No one.
Well said !!
Not naming Kurri as Honourable Mention is a disgrace.
Selanne's tie with Mogilny (not mentioned: my personal best favourite player -due to tremendous puck handling skills = #13 DATSUYK!!! The Magician, Fedorov, P.Bure, Mogilny, to name a few!❤
When the video started i thought to myself: Man, i hope he doesn't have Jari Kurri as the finland player, Selanne had 76 goals in his rookie year, not even gretzky had that.. Atleast he got him on the list, and selanne was a great sniper, hated facing him in WC as a swede, felt like he scored everytime he got the puck. Should have mentioned his unbreakable record though. Like you said, no one will beat that, unless they do like the NFL and add games every season until old records are pointless.
@@kamilhoffmann2410 fedorov was magical too. Peter Forsberg should get a mention from Sweden. He had to cut his career short due to injuries, but was a dominant force and led his team to Stanley Cups in his first few years in the league, and he revolutionized offensive checking. Looks small but strong as hell and balance out of this world. Comlete hockey player, except for his lack of care for his own health. Fun to see him smash people bigger than him while someone hanging on his back. But he paid the price unfortunately. Also. 2 WC, 2 Olympic Golds and 2 Stanley Cups. not many in that club.
Peter Bondra (born February 7, 1968, Luck, Ukraine) is a former Slovak ice hockey forward. He excelled in fast skating and was one of the most successful finishers in the NHL. He significantly helped the Slovak national team to win the title of world champion (2002). After ending his active career in October 2007, he became its general manager.
Peter's father comes from Jakubian in the district of Stará Ľubovňa. In 1947, his entire family emigrated to Ukraine - the emigration of his family took place involuntarily under the supervision of the Russian Gestapo (NKVD). Thus, tens of thousands of Slovaks were forcibly taken from Slovakia to Bolshevik Russia.
He is a member of the Slovak Hockey Club Poprad, where he played the 1985/86 season in the 1st SNHL. In the following year, he made his debut in the Czech-Slovak League as a player for VSŽ Košice. In the next season, 1987/88, he helped this team win the title of Czech-Slovak champion.
poopravím ťa (born February 7, 1968, Luck, Soviet Union)
Boli to ukrajinské vojenské jednotky ktoré vysidlovali slovákov.
🇫🇷 As an honorable mention for a French born player (and having played for French national team all his international career), I would mention :
- former goaltender Cristobal Huet, the only French player who has his name engraved on the Stanley Cup, won with the Chicago Blackhawks in 2010 🏆 😉
- forward Pierre-Edouard Bellemare, who played (and lost) 2 Stanley Cup finals, with Vegas (2018) and Tampa Bay (2022), and playing currently with Seattle Kraken 👍
Roussel aussi qui est le meilleur statistiquement pour un français
Phillippe Bozon
En tout cas pas celui mentionné lol.. j'ai jamais entendu dire qu'il était français, pour moi le 1er ça a été Philippe bozon 🤷♂️ mais Pierre éd c'est celui qui a le meilleur palmarès même s'il n'a pas gagné la coupe Stanley, 2 finales quand même
My USA honorable mention is Mike Modano. Brett Hull is Canadian by birth.
No love for Matthews?
@@ivangavnov2860damn leafs fans…🙄. Give him time and maybe we’ll see.
Ukraine:
1. Ruslan Fedotenko
2. Dmytro Khrystych
Both ukrainian born & Ukraine international team players.
Moreover, despite all Bondra's individual records and all Krystych' talent and skills, Ruslan Fedotenko is #1 for Ukraine:
2 times Stanley Cup winner including his personal huge impact of 12 Play-Off goals for Tampa in 2004 and 7+7 for Penguins in 2009!
So, no chance for great Peter Bondra even in case We would count him as ukrainian.
I agree, Bondra is more Slovak player than Ukrainian.
But in my opinion Bondra (17 seasons, 1081 GP, 503G, 892 points) has little better stats than Fedotenko (12 seaons, 863 games, 173G, 366 points).
Peter played 5 times in all stars game, not sure how many Ruslan had...
@@milantaskar9558 Has Peter Bondra got a Stanley Cup? 😎
@@SteelRopesI agree, this aspect Ruslan wins 2:0. Play off stats are litle better for Peter 80 GP, 56 P, +5 vs 108 GP, 40 P, -3.
94-95 top scorer in league(lockout... only 47 GP). 97-98 -> top scorer of the league with 52G, same as Salenne... 95-96 4th place in goals right after Lemieux, Jagr and Mogilny, but higher than Sakic, Leclair and rest of the league - still elite. 2000-01 4th place. 96-97 8th in league.
Overall Bondra is elite player, numbers are clear as my opinion.
Bondra in not Ukrainian, he is natively Slovak and just was born in Ukraine, leaving it at the age of 2. Then he lived in Slovakia and played for it's national team. Best real Ukrainian is either Dmitri Khristich or Ruslan Fedotenko.
Житник еще
@@РусланБ-ф7щ Из Житника такой же украинец, как из какого-нибудь Онопко, Никифорова или Джигурды, обычный перебежчик туда, где больше бабла. Родиться в Киеве - еще не значит быть украинцем, для этого надо, как минимум, иметь гражданство, играть за сборную и любить свою родину.
@@SergiiL1985 Чтобы быть украинцем достаточно... чтобы родители были украинцами вот и все.Ну по крайней мере я так считаю. На матчах всех звёзд нхл он был с украинским флажком. Этнический украинец ,что не так?
@@РусланБ-ф7щ 48 матчей за сборную страны-террориста, и ни одного - за сборную Украины. Вот что не так. Христич и Федотенко играли за свою страну, а не за ту, где больше бабла платили. Я не то чтоб его обвиняю, это его право и в 90-х так делали многие (и в спорте, и в шоу-бизнесе, и в других отраслях). Но после этого считать его украинцем - увольте.
@@SergiiL1985 Христич скорее советский хоккеист, хоть и успел за Украину поиграть, а вот Федотенко уже украинский.
Where is Taro Tsujimoto for Japan? Unbelievable
WHAT??? 😂
There’s actually a few more Japanese players who played in the NHL: Hiroyuki Miura (drafted 1992 by the Canadiens, no NHL games played), Yutaka Fukutsuji (drafted 2004 by the Kings, played 4 NHL games)
To me the best Japanese player will always be Taro Tsujimoto.
If we are going by birthplace, Brett Hull belongs to Canada.
Huh
So was he born when Bobby was playing for the Winnipeg Jets of the WHA, and not Chicago?
@@grahamdamberger7130 well Bobby was Canadian. Brett’s mother was American. Having dual citizenship, when Brett got cut from Team Canada, he played for Team USA.
just like william nylander
@@grahamdamberger7130 He was born in Belleville Ontario.
7:05 "Nabokov became the first European goalie to score a goal". Isn't Kazakhstan in Asia?
Here’s a not-so-fun fact: The Bill Masterton trophy is named after the only NHL player to die as a result of an in-game injury. His death is the reason why hockey players wear helmets, since his death was caused by a blow to his head. Masterton was a great player for the Minnesota North Stars (now Dallas Stars) and his death was a real tragedy. To this day, he’s the only NHL player to have perished due to an in-game injury
Wasn't there a european guy who got his neck slit during a game like a year ago?
@@darcys842if you mean Adam Johnson than he was playing in a British league.
@@jackoblllllllll oh bruh I didn't even see he said the only nhl player
@@darcys842 no problem. There were a few guys in the NHL who hot their necks cut, Richard Zedník, Clint Malarchuk are two I know of. They didn’t die thankfully. Vladimír Vůjtek got his face cut by a skate too.
@@jackoblllllllll that sucks. I may love hockey but the fact that Theres no neck protection or even face protection in major leagues seems incredibly stupid, especially for a sport where people are falling over constantly from hits
Hey...you forgot
Slovakia NHL Player
1 Stan Mikita Blackhawks 1958-1980 1394 541 926 1467
2 Peter Šťastný Nordiques, Devils, Blues 1980-1995 977 450 789 1239
3 Peter Bondra Capitals Senators, Thrashers, Blackhawks 1990-2007 1081 503 389 892
4 Marián Hossa Senators, Thrashers, Penguins, Red Wings, Blackhawks 1997-2010 823 363 407 770
5 Pavol Demitra Senators, Blues, Kings, Wild, Canucks 1993-2009 819 301 451 752
6 Miroslav Šatan Oilers, Sabres, Islanders, Penguins, Bruins 1995-2010 1050 363 367 735
7 Žigmund Pálffy Islanders, Kings, Penguins 1993-2006 684 329 384 713
8 Jozef Stümpel Bruins, Kings, Panthers 1991-2007 957 196 481 677
9 Anton Šťastný Nordiques 1980-1989 650 252 384 636
10 Marián Gáborík Wild, Rangers 2000-2010 578 261 262 523
11 Michal Handzuš Blues, Coyotes, Flyers, Blackhawks, Kings 1998-2010 762 160 245 404
12 Richard Zedník Capitals, Islanders, Canadiens, Panthers 1995-2009 745 200 179 379
13 Zdeno Chára Islanders Senators, Bruins 1997-2010 847 111 252 363
14 Ľubomír Višňovský Kings, Oilers, Ducks 2000-2010 622 93 262 355
15 Róbert Švehla Panthers, Maple Leafs 1994-2003 655 68 267 335
16 Marián Šťastný Nordiques, Maple Leafs 1981-1986 322 121 173 294
17 Ladislav Nagy Blues, Coyotes, Stars, Kings 1999-2007 397 106 179 285
18 Peter Ihnačák Maple Leafs 1982-1990 417 102 165 267
19 Zdeno Cíger Devils, Oilers, Rangers, Lightning 1990-1996
2001-2002 352 94 134 228
20 Marek Svatoš Avalanche, Predators 2003-2010 316 96 68 164
1 Peter Budaj Avalanche 2005-2010 197 10.872 86 70 23 8 2,74 90,3
2 Jaroslav Halák Canadiens, Blues 2006-2010 101 5.758 56 34 7 9 2,62 91,9
3 Rastislav Staňa Capitals 2003-2004 6 211 1 2 0 0 3,13 89,0
4 Ján Lašák Predators 2001-2003 6 267 0 4 0 0 4,04 87,4
We are absolutley underrated hockey nation its somehow disrespectful he doesnt mention slovak NHL play (If we dont count Bondra but he is for some reason from ukraine in here)
Datsyuk he changed how hockey is played
I thought Mats Sundin, Börje Salming or Peter Forsberg would be Sweden best player in the NHL but Niklas Lidström is a very good player to :D
Henrik Lundqvist please!
Sedin twins 2 for the price of 1nah it has to be Lidstrom Forsberg would be in conversation as well if not for injuries
I’d say Lidström is a sound choice, but Forsberg and Sundin wouldn’t be wrong either.
Forsberg at his peak is a top 5 best players ever, but since this list is more career based, Lidstrom is the correct choice
@@BALTOBOULBOBBI Very true, best analyze yet. When Peter was injured free, he was easy top 5 player all time.
Forgot to mention Teemu Selanne Rookie debut where he scored over 70+ goals and won the top goal scorer for the season and had over 130+ points… a record which neither Gretsky or anyone will ever touch.
For Slovakia it should be Peter Stastny
quite a few UK representatives for honourable mentions. Owen Nolan (born in Belfast, Northern Ireland) Byron Dafoe (born in Worthing, West Sussex) to name a couple
Steve Smith from Glasgow too as well as currently Nathan Walker, born in Wales represents Australia
Brendan perlini aswell
@gabrielcote5781 OH yeah of course
Gilbert
None of them are brits. There has never been a British NHL player.
Closest is Liam Kirk, who played few games in AHL.
Man... using birthplace is so messed up for this list.
Make your own list then?
@@TzOn79 ah. The age old "gotcha" of the unoriginal
@@dontirri ye its more original to whine over other contents.
@@TzOn79 Man just said his opinion and you dont have to agree. Thats what the comment section is for, its not whining is stating opinions. I also lost my intrest in this video after he said its based on birth.
@@henrimarjoan7876 why the fuck do you i think i care ?
Nice video, thanks! The chapters' names are quite creative, though :)
Brett Hull was born in Canada.
He's a dual citizen and calls himself murrican.
He was born in Sweden.
He played for Team USA in international games all his career. He had led the US to beat Canada in Olympics and Canada Cup finals. That makes him a US player in my eyes. I would pick him over Patrick Kane as best US player though, as he has way more goals in both regular season and playoff.
I always pronounced Regehr as “Ruh-gear”, so hearing it as “Raygar” made me pause the video and question what I had heard.
That's (ruh- geer) how Hockey Night In Canada pronounced it, so it's prob right.
Best French player is Mario Lemieux,best Belarusian Wayne Gretzky,best Ukrainian Mike Bosy,best Irish Connor McDavid,best Scot Nathan Mackinnon,best Greek Chris Chelios and so on.))).
This would be my take for the established hockey nations - And I go with a lot of ties = shared greatest as there are to many greats.
Austria - Thomas Vanek
Belarus - Ruslan Salei
Canada - Mario Lemieux & Wayne Gretzky.
Czech Republic - Jaromir Jagr & Dominik Hasek.
Denmark - Frans Nielsen.
Finland - Teemu Selanne & Jari Kurri.
Germany - Leon Drasaitle & Olof Kolzig (not born but represented Germany in a lot of tournaments).
Kazakstan - Evgeni Nabokov (born there but reprsented Russia in international tournaments)
Latvia - Artur Irbe & Sandish Ozolish
Norway - Espen Knutsen & Mats Zuccarello
Poland - Mariusz Czerkawski.
Russia - Sergei Federov & Alexander Ovetchkin.
Slovakia - Peter Bondra (born in Ukraine but grew up in Slovakia and represented there national team lots of times, incl there 2002 IIHF WC gold) & Zdeno Charra
Sweden - Nicklas Lidstrom & Mats Sundin.
Swizserland - Jonas Hiller & Roman Josi.
USA - Mike Modano & Chris Chelios
You need to add Gordie Howe and Bobby Orr to Canada.
@@thewolfdoctor761 Non of them really represented Canada much in there careers. And while Gordie Howe is a great argument, I have some reservations for Bobby Orr....
@@WarioSaysSo "Today we’re taking a look at The Greatest NHL Player of All Time from Every Country!" Representing, in this case, just means they are from that country. It doesn't mean they represented Canada in multi-nation tournaments.
@@thewolfdoctor761 True!
If you're really nitpicking about birthplaces, then why not pick Stan Mikita for Slovakia? He was born there while it was still part of Czechoslovakia. (And why is the Czech Republic called Czechia today? I hate that name.)
Thomas “Vanek” is a son of two Czech parents. Not a drop of Austrian blood in his veins. Unlike Heatley, who actually has some traceable German ancestry.
Bondra lived in Ukraine, but neither of his parents were Ukrainian.
The best Czech player should rather be Hašek, arguably the best goalie of all time. Jágr isn’t just the highest scoring European in NHL history. He’s the highest scoring player not named Wayne Gretzky. It’s like saying K2 is the second highest mountain in Asia. It’s technically true, but it’s a lie by omission at the same time.
_(...)It’s technically true, but it’s a lie by omission at the same time.(...)_
by *what* omission?, to not name the highest mountain by *name?...*
damn you really collecting nuts...
btw. Bondra not just lived in Ukraine, he was born there, too... omission?
@@Z0RDR4CK Don’t pretend, that you don’t understand. Saying, that Jágr is the highest scoring European in NHL history suggests, that there might be plenty non-Europeans ahead of him. In reality, there’s only one person ahead of him.
It’s like describing a monarch who holds multiple territories as a ruler of one of the minor ones he holds. It’s not a lie in the legal sense, but it’s an intentional omission, the intention of which is to downplay his achievement.
Bondra was born in Ukraine, but isn’t Ukrainian. Vaněk and Kevin Fiala were born in Austria and Switzerland respectively, but both are the sons of two Czech parents.
Just a few missed honorable mentions: obviously, Steve Stamkos has Macedonian roots, as do Athananasiou have Greek, Mika Zibanejad Persian, Nasir Abdelkader and Nasem Kasri Lebanese, Tahir and Max Domi, Arbër and Florian Xekhaj Albanian, Pierre Bellemare French, Darius Kasparaitis Lithuanian, and Joe Šakić Croatian, while Peter, Anton and Marian Šťastný were very much indeed Slovakian.
Let the counter arguments flow. I’m merely stating a fact of ethnicity, wherein language, parents, upbringing, traditions and culture as common denominators.
The counter arguments will always be paper citizenships, while the factual arguments will be where said players were developed.
Examples (not mutually exclusive to hockey): - Auston Matthews, developed in SoCal, not AZ.
- Martina Hingis, Swiss born to Slovak parents.
- Richard Krajíček, Dutch born to Czech parents.
- Monika Széles, ethnic Hungarian from Vojvodina/Vajdaság, Yugoslav national.
- Caroline Woźniacki, Danish born to Polish parents.
- Bianca Andreescu, Romanian born repping CAN.
- Emma Răducanu, born to Romanian parents representing GBR.
Also, Zibanejad has a Finnish mother
Having roots somewhere has nothing to do with your nationality. In almost all cases birth place neither. Almost all of these players listed here play for USA or Canada. They are just born elsewhere.
Leo Komarov has also played for Finland :). Lots of these guys are multinationals.
Paul McLean never play for the French national team and never won a Stanley cup
Cristobal Huet did both
Also Huet wasn’t a Canadian born in a military base in France He was just French born in St Martin d’heres (near Grenoble)
J'avais jamais entendu dire que mc lean était français mdr .. ayant été gardien pendant 25ans je vote aussi pour christo
Sweden - Peter Forsberg
if you want to win a game, you field forsberg, if you want a player that never made a misstake you pick nicklas lidström. also lidström has the stats and he is reliable.
@@mercurio822 Yeah, I don’t really have a problem with Lidstrom as a pick… Forsberg was an absolute beast for the era that he played in until the foot trouble got to be too much.
@@eggsII it was more than the foot, he played hard, but when people realised how good he was he was hit back even harder.
i think stats wise we might see Filip Forsberg or William Nylander going into the points lead for sweden.
and We forget Håkan loob the only swedish born player to score 50 goals in a season. he was special aswell. at his peak Håkan loob might just be the best goal scorer of all time for sweden.
@@mercurio822 I’d love to see a calculator that adjusted stats based on the era that they played. There’s no doubt that Loob, W Nylander, & F Forsberg benefit(ed) from less physical, more open style of play.
The Nordiques/ Avs really did well getting him in the Lindros trade.
Forsberg is one of my all-time favorite players to watch. An amazing combination of skill, vision, intelligence, and toughness.
Foppan!!
I'm so young so I was kinda surprised about Nabokov, but then I googled that he was born in Kazakhstan and also played at WC at age of 19 for them
He have Kazakhstan and Russian citizenship👍
For Latvia Artūrs Irbe and Kārlis Skrastiņš could have been honorable mentions. Also these players should be clasified after the national team they represent and not theire birth country. Even better, it should be determend by asking each country fans which is the best player and not by NHL career.
Not only does Ovi sit atop in Russia, ge sits atop as best Left Winger ever.
Louca Sbisa is a former Swiss National Team Hockey Player. (I'm from Switzerland..)
Peter Bondra, as I know, is a former Slovakian National Team Player.
He was born in USSR now Ukraine to a Slovak Father and Polish mother, he lived there for like 2 years and then they moved back to Slovakia. As far as I know he only represented Slovakia thus saying he is the best Ukrainian player is just wrong. Considering there are more suitable candidates for that spot who actually played for Ukraine not just being born there. Badly researched list in my opinion.
Kazakhstan isnt in Europe, so hardly to speak about Nabokov being first European goalie to score goal :D
There’s a small portion of western Kazakhstan located in Europe.
Nabokov was born in USSR and played for Russia internationally, so it's a bit of a gray area
5,4% of Kazakhstans land is in Europe....
Kazakhstan is geographically transcontinental and Nabokov has been playing for team Russia after getting his Russian passport and Russian players is considered “european” in North America even if they were born in Uzbekistan or Siberia.
True Kazakhstan is the heart of Central Asia. But you (North Americans) need to learn a small detail. Not only because considering Kazakhstan as Asia, is the same as considering Russia as Asia, we skip history and all this frontier Sibir tales. At sport level 🇰🇿 play in almost all sports in the European confederation. BTW turkey have less then 5.4% of them territory in Europe and just because of Constantinopla, they go all in to Europe
For France the best French player so far was Cristobal Huet , born in France and French, MacLean was canadian . Huet has a Stanley cup and a nice career as a goalie ! First french was Philippe Bozon with the ST Louis Blues .
Tout à fait d'accord, Christo meilleur gardien français de l'histoire, je l'ai été pendant 25ans je connais un peu.. mc lean j'avais jamais entendu dire qu'il était français mdr
Great video! Stellar production!
I always pronounced Nabokov as (Nuh-Bock-Kov) so hearing (Nab-Uh-Kov) was like nails on a chalkboard in my brain 😂Not a big deal by any means but, it stuck out. It kept echoing in my mind for the remainder of the video lol!
It's pronounced Nuh-BOW-Kov in Russian
I love how the chapters set automatically by RUclips call Jaromir Jagr "Yzerman Yoger"
For Japan, there is another player that you forgot : Yutaka Fukufuji.
Also Taro Tsujimoto!
😂??
Leo Komarov was born in 1987 in the Soviet Union (in current Estonia territory), moved to Finland in 1991. He has lived most of his life in Finland, and he has Finnish and Russian citizenship. He doesn't even speak Estonian. Come on man put him at least in the correct country.
Almost all of there players are wrong.
@@RoyalMela fr
Gretzky is a limited 1 dimensional offensive player. Mario Lemieux or Bobby Orr or Bob Gainey would be my pick for top Canadian. Bob Gainey dominated the game in a way one can only appreciated watching the game live. The Soviet Union head coach called Bob Gainey the greatest player on earth.
Lemieux was not great defensively either. Gretzky still is number 1 (greatest playmaker of all time). Bob Gainey is way down the list, he is simply not good enough, he has some defensive chops, but limited superstar power.
@@JoelER78 nah, both Gainey and Orr could control the pace of the game in a way Gretzky never did. When their teams started running around and got out of control Orr and Gainey had an ability to slow the game down in a way Gretzky could not.
ruclips.net/video/GeoKJb9sbXs/видео.html
Gretzky can not get the puck off of the opponent. Gretzky isn't the greatest Canadian.
Edmonton had the best team for 7 years and they only won the cup 4 times during the Gretzky era. Also, Canada took some bad losses during the Gretzky era. Canada got lucky with razor thin victories in '84 and '87. '81, '96, and '98 were pretty bad losses. Their only win in the '96 final was an offside goal by Yzerman in OT. The whiner flopped all over the place during the '87 event.
Once the team Gretzky is on... removes the puck from the opposition...Gretzky is the greatest offensive play maker though.
Canada dominated international competition before Gretzky and dominated after he retired. The whiner did a nice job whining about the officials in the 2002 Olympics though.
@@davenantais9860 Wayne 'The Whiner's lol. Canada demolished the Soviets in Russia. 1 game Canada had 34 minutes in penalties and Russia had 4. Canada still won despite being 2 men short for 7 minutes and 34 seconds.
@@905JimRaynor bob gainey? he was very good but c'mon now.
No such thing as CO CAPTAINS in hockey. They're ALTERNATE captains; not ASSISTANT captains.
where is Latvia?
Bobby Orr was not only the best Canadian hockey player but the best player ever.
Lol
nope
@@sabref4i290He's the only defenceman to win the scoring title. Gretzky was an astounding point getter.
@@adampetten5349Orr played in the least competitive era.
@@dannycarlow8204 There were many terrible teams from 1979-1998. Whether they relocated, were expansion, or just horrible as even some original six teams were(The Norris and Smythe Divisions lol) ..it's the quality of the teams. A still potent Gretzky played against the awful 92-94 Senators and Sharks.
It's why Paul Coffey isn't in the GOAT conversation....it was easier to score in Gretzky's time than in Orrs.
The Gap between Orr and Potvin,Park and Robinson in their peak seasons was greater than the 9% gap between Gretzky and Lemieux and Gretzky.
No one was a better point accumulater than Wayne. However, it is the spectacular visuals of players like Denis Savard, Mario Lemieux, Gilbert Perrault, Guy Lafleur,Rocket Richard, Pavel Bure, Erik Karlsson and Bobby Orr that bring the maximum excitement to the game.
Of course you think Mike Bullard is on par with Messier and Cunneyworth with Glenn Anderson. Messier has the sixth most 100 point seasons, and had his best season without Coffey or Gretzky...yet is not much of a point getter to you.
The effectiveness of Coffey, Messier and Anderson on the Power Play freed up Kurri and the Great One for all those Even strength points.
Wow, kind of was always under the impression that Kasparaitis was the greatest Lithuanian born hockey player, didn't know that Zubrus was much more accomplished.
Kasper represented Russia tho
@@ivangavnov2860 But he's born in the same city as Zubrus, he also played for Lithuania in 2018 in the World Ice Hockey Championships Division 1B.
Well in that case Darius is the best Lithuanian player so far one of my favourite defender s
I totally agree with your pick for Russia being Ovi! He certainly is the GOAT!
What colour is the sky in this world of yours?
Datsyuk
@@pathfinder1273 There are other arguments, but Ovi is definitely a respectable pick for best Russian player lol
@@vaclevsta Absolutely, but not when someone says he "certainly is the greatest of all time". The implication is that he is the greatest player of all time, which is a ludicrous statement. And even if it was only meant to include Russian players, he is not a certain winner. Too many young people nowadays missed the opportunity to witness what Vladislav Tretiak did to the hockey world in 1972. Also, so many great Russian players never got to the NHL until their careers were at or past their prime.
@@pathfinder1273 Yes it is a shame that legends like Tretiak could not compete in the NHL. But as a result, it is very hard to compare them to players who did. Instead of being angry at younger generations, we should all feel fortunate that we are able to watch great players like Ovechkin and Kucherov.
Brett Hull is born in Canada, so he couldnt qualify as the best US player in this list since this list is based on country of BIRTH, not country of origin. Like Bondra, he is ZERO Ukrainian, just Ukrainian BORN. Peter Bondra was in fact SLOVAK. Same with Paul MacLean, who is in fact ZERO French, but 100% CANADIAN. Same with Owen Nolan, who is NOT an Irish national, but a 100% CANADIAN national. However, Nolan might actually be Irish in ETHNICITY though, which is NOT the same as nationality. You should a video on the all time best NHL players by country of ORIGIN.
Yutaka Fukufuji is another japanese born player. he was goalie for kings for 4 games in 06-07.
Uhhhhhhh does Yutaka Fukufuji not exist? He was a goalie who played briefly with the LA Kings?
Im not sure about Selänne, Kurri has 5 Stanley cups
Thanks to great one
@@ivangavnov2860 actually thanks to Kurri grezky has 4 Stanley cups.. Kurri won without grezky but grezky didn't without Kurri.. that by The way IS a fact
@@justnii2056just stop lmao kurri was nowhere near the player Gretzky was curry wasn’t even the second best on his team 😂
@@Kicsupnext The facts are Kurri won in Oilers when gzezky left ,but grezky didn't win anymore. Gzezky IS so overrated. And was so protected. For example Lemiux was much better
@@justnii2056 “Gretzky is so overrated” lmao look at his numbers he’s not even known for goals and no one has ever came close to his record.
Wayne is definitely up there and saw the ice like no other. on the other hand Howe got 103 points at 40. Orr is the only top scorer at his position. Fedorov could do it all. Lemieux came back from cancer.
Gretzky scored 9% more in his peak season than Lemieux in his. You could try to Equate Messier,Kurri,Tikkanen and Anderson With Cunneyworth and Shedden or Coffey with Phil Bourque or Moe Mantha....but That's ludicrous.
It's always close in player rich countries like U.S. Canada,Russia and Sweden.
Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr in Canada. Modano, Cane, Hull, Lafontaine and Leetch in America. Mogilny, Bure, Kucherov, Fedorov and Ovechkin in Russia.
Now Draisaitl and Kopitar are the best in their countries by many a country mile.
Gretzky and the others.
First one has a misleading detail : Yes at the time thomas Vanek was the highest drafted Austrian player ever, but this as since been equalled when David Reinbacher got drafted 5th by the MTL Canadiens.
Paul Mclean for France is such a freakin stretch... That military base was de facto considered Canadian territory until 1964 when it was finally handed back to french military authorities, that's 6 years after he was born. You could easily have gone for Cristobal Huet instead and save you the trouble, Cristo won a Stanley Cup ffs.
(Paul Mclean sadly never did as a player but thankfully finally did as an assistant Coach with the RedWings, highlight of an overall amazing career, along with the well-deserved Jack Adams he got awarded a few years later)
Regehr is pronounced Rah-gear.
I have no idea who Robin Ray-gar is.
Sweet Jesus how to you get Ray-Gar out of that? Sounds like a Master of the Universe character.
What a couple of dandies. As if it is obvious how to pronounce that name properly. The only reason you two know is because you heard the TV announcer say it. Lighten up and come up with meaningful comments. We dont need any more trolls on RUclips.
He played for the Flames, and later the Dothraki in GoT lol
9:51 nah bro how this guy can play with the leafs and the bruins if he was a Canadiens player like wtf
We all know Wayne Gretzky is one of the best hockey players ever. Also, fun fact: He got to light the external Olympic cauldron for the 2010 Olympics
Where are Latvian players, duh?
Honorable mention for sweden I would say Henrik Lundqvist, but Lidstrom is the right choise. Would pick Mike Modano over Patrick Kane honestly :D. Honorable mention for France, Cristobal Huet. Russia honorable mentions: Sergei Fedorov, Pavel Datsuyk
This was a really fun concept to debate before actually watching the video.
Some of these I picked the same, Gretzky for Canada, Park for South Korea, Kopitar for Slovenia.
Some I did not pick the same, but I like the video’s choice better for various reasons, Tretiak for Russia/Soviet Union but he never played in the NHL, Kölzig for Germany but did not know he was actually born in S Africa, and Lehtinen for Finland but Selanne is definitely better.
And some I don’t agree with, Modano for America, Forsberg for Sweden and Hasek for the Czech.
Again great fun video to think and debate about.
Too many choices for USA and Canada but:
Russia: Federov, Bure, Mogilny, Datsyuk ?
USA: Brett Hull, Modano
Sweden: Forsberg, Alfredsson, Lidstrom, Sundin ?
Slovakia: Bondra, Hossa
Finland: Jarri Kurri ?
Germany: Olaf Kolzig
Netherlands: Daniel Sprong
UK: Ken Hodge
lidstrom should have had 10 norris he was snuffed out of atlest 5. in all his years he was the best defenseman in almost every year of his playing carrer.
had no idea Georgiev is a bulgarian
Just born there.
Almost all of there players are wrong.
Latvia missing
Jā Nav Balderis
Slovakia Peter Stastny? (One of the greatest and purest Europeans to lace up in the NHL, Peter Stastny is the fifth-best NHL player to never win a Stanley Cup. He became the first rookie ever to total at least 100 regular season points and went on to score 100 in seven of his first eight seasons, Šťastný is the second-highest scorer of the 1980s, after Wayne Gretzky)+ Bondra
Nabokov played for KZ just 1 WC in lower group, all his international career relates with RUS. He is Russian player, not KZ
Honorable mentions: Basically any and every offensive player that came to the NHL when the soviet union fell. They took the NHL by storm showing there was some insane players in the secretive USSR. Mogilny, Fedorov, Bure, Larionov, and so on. To think the moscow team at one point had Bure, Fedorov, Mogilny as their offensive line in their youth. Insane talentmachine, shitty government.
What Moscow team, they are like 7, just in KHL
@@Fulminante24 khl wasnt a thing back then dude.
You could of thrown Nathan Walker in for Australia, yes he was born in Wales but came to Australia as a baby and started his playing career in Australia until he moved to Europe to get better.
Kolzig (300+ wins, Stanley Cup Final in 1998, Vezina and King Clancy trophies) and Langway (Stanley Cup, 2 Norris trophies, Hall of Fame) dessserved inclusion and full mention. Neither was just "making up the numbers".
Kölzig is German and not their best player. Good, but not best. Langway is American and not close to being the best American.
@@RoyalMela You obviously didn't read or listen to the video, or not smart enough to grasp it. It said country of birth, not nationality. Kolzig was born in South Africa, Langway in Taiwan.
Petr Bondra played for Slovakia
And Mikita played for Canada. Using place of the birth instead of nation they represented is just weird.
If this is done based on country players were born in ... Salei, Nabakov, Ozolinsh, and Bondra were born in Soviet Union ... Jager and Mikita were born Czechoslovakia
Bud, you should at least learn how to pronounce the names.
Jagr is a player owner for the Knights in the Extra Liiga
Maurice Richard was the greatest player in NHL history, so he should consequently be listed as Canada's greatest player.
Nabokov -Russian He played for Russian national team.
Japan have at least two Ryan O'marra still the best but Yutaka Fukufuji play 4 game for the LA kings (goalie)
Lidström is an amazing player but in my opinion the best swede of all time is Forsberg!
One of the few players that has "dubbel" trippel gold!
2x Stanley cups, 2x olympic gold and 2x world championship gold!
You forgot Daniel Spong from The Netherlands!
To think of the teams who could have drafted Jagr. The Canucks took Nedved because he was a faster skater.
Leo Komarov is Finnish and Russian not Estonian. He borned in Estonia but still hes Finnish-Russian and played World Championship for Finland.
Ask Gretzky who the greatest hockey player in history was, and I personally have, and without taking a breath he said Gordie Howe. Enough said.
Lol because he's modest doesn't mean he's not the best Canadian player ever
gretzkys not the greatest and neither howe
Gretzky is so humble.
Bobby Orr also said that.
Nabokov is russian player, Bondra - slovakian.
Yes, but the video is going by where players were born, not their citizenship/national identity
@@vaclevsta That is why this video is extremely dumb.
I argue that Nathan Walker is the best Australian
Peter Bondra is Sloavkian 😤 Mikita is not Sovakian tho
Both are Slovaks, the difference being Bondra born in USSR was actually raised in Slovakia and represented Slovakia, while Mikita (born as Stanislav Gouth) was sent after WW2 to his uncle who lived in Canada and he represented Canada. This whole list is just weird. It should be based on which country they represented not based on where they were born.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Henri Richard or the rocket.
For me,and i have seen alot for many years,the best Russian-Soviet is Sergey Makarov from famous KLM line.
Yes, Krutov, Lariomov and Makarov are unmatched - chess on ice. Never played NHL just met NHL stars at Canada Cup
@@Nada_cj What? Makarov-Calgary Flames,San Jose Sharks,Dallas Stars Krutov-Vancouver Canucks Larionov-Vancouver Canucks,San Jose Sharks,Detroit Red Wings,Florida Panthers,New Jersey Devils! HELLOOOO MARS!!!!!! 😁
@@ingars31 Thanks a lot for enlightening a marsmen 😃
I actually meant when the were still in their best and not already in their 30s way past their prime ( yes I know Krutov was still 29 when he played the disappointing one season for the Canucks)
There is a Fin called Jari Kuri whose records are far beyond Selanne... as much as I love him. The Finish Rocket is #2.
I think that Mario was every bit if not better in some ways than Gretz .
Which is greater: the number of great players from different countries or the number of great Canadian players?
Hockey equivalent to Mt Rushmore is 100% Canadian: Gretzky, Howe, Orr, Lemieux.
lol you really butchered Czerkawski's surname
Everyone does.
This. It's pronounced"Smith"
@father042 And your an expert on pronunciation? Especially for names from countries with different languages, where things like Cz are used? Get real.
@@pathfinder1273 I know Polish language so I know how it's supposed go be said
@@father042 Well, whoop-dee-doo! Obviously not everyone does, so have some compassion on those who dont. Who in hell would put a Cz together, anyway? They are totally different sounds. It would be the equivalent of GBordie Hvowe.
I would be interested in seeing the current league..
Forsberg was way better than Lidström. So was Sundin and Börje Salming (R.I.P)
Nope. It embarrassing that you'd say way better.
Although, it's harder to prove with the forwards vs. defensemen to who is better.
Lidstrom was a main reason the Red Wings beat the Avs in the 1990s and then were so successful throughout the early 2000s (No question Forsberg did well against Detroit, but Sakic was better than Forsberg). Lidstrom was our most important player from the late 1990s to his retirement (7 Norris Trophies). He was the rock on defense for us, played 30 minutes a game, dubbed "The Perfect Human" for a reason by his teammates. Salming never approached his level, although he was almost there. Sundin might have become the greatest Swedish superstar, but he did miss out on playing with some better players. Forsberg played with really, really great players (like Lidstrom did), but got injured too much...so an even easier choice as to who was the greatest career wise.
First European captain to win a Stanley Cup, First European to win a Conn Smythe Trophy.
I'll argue more, but I don't think I really need to.
Why they didnt even mention about Selänne's first year? He did 76 GOALS and 132 points! No one will break that goal record for long time(first year),they will not make that many goals anyway. Maybe Matthews will,someday. Ps. Teemu has most points in Olympics too,43. 🇫🇮
MARIO LEMIEUX 66
Better Danish player is Oliver Bjoerkstrand, and better Dutch player is Daniel Sprong
Man, Ehlers is better than all these Danish players mentioned, although Oliver is closer (and they are good buddies).
I think Daniel sprong is better now for Netherlands
🇸🇪 name with Eric Lindros
🇯🇵 name with Paul Kariya
I think that putting players by country of origin makes no sense. For example Leo Komarov - born in Estonia (in USSR to be exact) russian, but he's a genuine product of finnish hockey system.
Yes. This video has almost all players wrong.
How can one choose between Mats Sundin, Peter Forsberg and Nicky Lidström?
I sure cant...
Hasek > Jagr
Hasek : 2 Hart trophies, 6 Vezina trophies ==> A great player
Jagr : 1 Hart ==> A very good player whose stats are misleading because of the number of years he played.
Wut Hasek was a goalie what Norris 🤦
@@bozidarborojevic4131 Fixed it for ya
Leon draisaitl isn’t even close to top 2 at this point. People should’ve known he is getting most of his points from mcdavid…
Yeah, except, Draisatl does a lot of heavy lifting on that team, stealing pucks, back checking, hitting people, winning face-offs, and no, he can rely on himself. He is an exceptional passer and of course shooter. Last year, he was arguably as important as McDavid in the playoffs for Edmonton...he will be again this year. You can't rely on one guy.
I can understand picking Gretzky for Canada - many people would - but saying nobody else is even close is absurd. Not even mentioning Bobby Orr suggests you are too young to know any better.