i do add backing line like almost 70% of the spool to save that expensive braid line since is just do shore casting and catch small fish that can't run to far
Ive always put electrical tape on my line to the spool and never had problems I do both for my catfishing and bass combos it’s easier then putting backing on imo
I use BFS and my spool is very small and hold only a little line (Around 150 feet) this means that even with the thinnest line I cannot afford backing.
I literally use any cheap line full of twists and just thicken up the reel a bit so i dont waste all my braid on one combo, theres a brand at a store near me that sells 2-20 pound line for like $2 a spool
My reel question is about mono backing on baitcasters does it help with not getting backlash? . I understand the concept of saving some money on braid by backfilling with mono. But does it help with performance and obviously I mean with baitcasters I don't see how it would help with anything else except for saving money
It shouldn't affect performance almost at all. For me, the main driver is cost savings with the lesser benefit of making starting spooling marginally easier (which is counteracted by having to tie an extra connection knot between the lines). Generally, adding mono backing shouldn't affect baitcaster performance because you should never be getting all the way to the mono line. That said, I've heard if you put large diameter mono as backing it can create wider valleys for braid to bite into and potentially worsen backlashes.
@JuranAdventures yeah, that's my problem. On this particular setup I had used mono backing that was the weight rating which obviously makes it way thicker. It was causing it backlash every cast. No matter how hard or easy I try to do it. I took the mono out put just the braid back on now. It cast perfect.. I have another real setup with mono and braid that are the same thickness which obviously makes the amount away lighter weight rating. And this setup does not backlash. So although it's only comparing one to one. It does prove that theory.
For clarity, I tie knots and recommend people tie knots. The no-knot comment was to illustrate that the knot/backing aren't what keeps the line in place, it's primarily the wraps of line over itself. The knot adds some strength and makes spooling easier. That said, your reel of choice should be sized to handle your target fish species. If you're getting spooled, you most likely hooked into something you weren't targeting (shark, musky, big pike, etc). In those cases, those fish are all strong enough to break that knot if you get completely spooled. Do your best to get that fish under control without getting spooled! Chase it with the boat if you have to.
I first hand seen my brothers entire line free spin around his spool. I used to tie braid directly to my spool. Not after that. I use electrical tape tho.
@@ExpeditionAngler2I want to save a penny every chance I get everything that I have for fishing I bought on clearance or discounted somehow. I have a question. I tried spooling 6 lb fluorocarbon on a baitcaster and I couldn't cast it one time without it backlashing. I decided that I should just use braid with a fluorocarbon leader. Because it wasn't worth the headache. But I see other guys using baitcasters with not braid so I thought why not. I don't know what I was doing wrong
@ it’s not necessarily the strength, but the actual diameter, the size of the line that will cause that. Good 6 lb fluero you’d need a BFS reel if you didn’t want to put it on a spinning rod. Every reel, from crankbait rods to swimbaits to spinnerbaits to Alabama rigs, 15 lb cheap mono backing, 30 lb braid to fill it up, then 15 lb seaguar invis-x liter tied with an FG knot. The other option is straight 15-20 lb fluerocarbon straight to the bait.
@@ExpeditionAngler2 thanks for the advice. So I looked it up cuz I didn't know what BFS meant but I found one on Amazon for 36 bucks where you can switch the reel from a deep one to a shallow one. The shallow one is labeled for light lures.
Nothing wrong with just going 5 turns! I don't always use backing, but when I do it's primarily for the cost savings so I I'll try to get a good amount of mono on the spool, as appropriate.
i do add backing line like almost 70% of the spool to save that expensive braid line since is just do shore casting and catch small fish that can't run to far
Ive always put electrical tape on my line to the spool and never had problems I do both for my catfishing and bass combos it’s easier then putting backing on imo
I use BFS and my spool is very small and hold only a little line (Around 150 feet) this means that even with the thinnest line I cannot afford backing.
I literally use any cheap line full of twists and just thicken up the reel a bit so i dont waste all my braid on one combo, theres a brand at a store near me that sells 2-20 pound line for like $2 a spool
Sell some from the shop online. Id buy for that price
My reel question is about mono backing on baitcasters does it help with not getting backlash? . I understand the concept of saving some money on braid by backfilling with mono. But does it help with performance and obviously I mean with baitcasters I don't see how it would help with anything else except for saving money
It shouldn't affect performance almost at all. For me, the main driver is cost savings with the lesser benefit of making starting spooling marginally easier (which is counteracted by having to tie an extra connection knot between the lines).
Generally, adding mono backing shouldn't affect baitcaster performance because you should never be getting all the way to the mono line. That said, I've heard if you put large diameter mono as backing it can create wider valleys for braid to bite into and potentially worsen backlashes.
@JuranAdventures yeah, that's my problem. On this particular setup I had used mono backing that was the weight rating which obviously makes it way thicker. It was causing it backlash every cast. No matter how hard or easy I try to do it. I took the mono out put just the braid back on now. It cast perfect.. I have another real setup with mono and braid that are the same thickness which obviously makes the amount away lighter weight rating. And this setup does not backlash. So although it's only comparing one to one. It does prove that theory.
Love your videos man, you deserve more recognition. Been fishing for years and you still teach me things
Thanks, really appreciate it! That’s one of my favorite things about fishing - we can fish for years and there’s still tons to pick up.
Wait you don’t tie knots, what happens if you get spooled
For clarity, I tie knots and recommend people tie knots. The no-knot comment was to illustrate that the knot/backing aren't what keeps the line in place, it's primarily the wraps of line over itself. The knot adds some strength and makes spooling easier. That said, your reel of choice should be sized to handle your target fish species. If you're getting spooled, you most likely hooked into something you weren't targeting (shark, musky, big pike, etc). In those cases, those fish are all strong enough to break that knot if you get completely spooled. Do your best to get that fish under control without getting spooled! Chase it with the boat if you have to.
I first hand seen my brothers entire line free spin around his spool. I used to tie braid directly to my spool. Not after that. I use electrical tape tho.
Which reel was that
Blue/Black is Kapstan SE
Celestial Purple is Royale Legend Pro
Blue/White is Centron Lite
Yeah, completely unnecessary, however…. Mono is cheaper and I replace my braid more than I’d prefer to admit. Saves a penny here or there.
@@ExpeditionAngler2I want to save a penny every chance I get everything that I have for fishing I bought on clearance or discounted somehow.
I have a question. I tried spooling 6 lb fluorocarbon on a baitcaster and I couldn't cast it one time without it backlashing. I decided that I should just use braid with a fluorocarbon leader. Because it wasn't worth the headache. But I see other guys using baitcasters with not braid so I thought why not. I don't know what I was doing wrong
@ it’s not necessarily the strength, but the actual diameter, the size of the line that will cause that. Good 6 lb fluero you’d need a BFS reel if you didn’t want to put it on a spinning rod. Every reel, from crankbait rods to swimbaits to spinnerbaits to Alabama rigs, 15 lb cheap mono backing, 30 lb braid to fill it up, then 15 lb seaguar invis-x liter tied with an FG knot. The other option is straight 15-20 lb fluerocarbon straight to the bait.
@@ExpeditionAngler2 thanks for the advice.
So I looked it up cuz I didn't know what BFS meant but I found one on Amazon for 36 bucks where you can switch the reel from a deep one to a shallow one. The shallow one is labeled for light lures.
100 yards???🤯
I got 5 turns😰
Nothing wrong with just going 5 turns! I don't always use backing, but when I do it's primarily for the cost savings so I I'll try to get a good amount of mono on the spool, as appropriate.