THIS IS WHY METAL FANS HATE ME
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2022
- It's not secret that metal fans hate me! I look at why, starting with one of the many Reddit threads where metal fans hate me, and getting further into the psychology of why listening to metal becomes an unhealthy identity for some metal fans.
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They are elitist. The haters on Reddit. A bunch of elitists complaining about you
I would love if you also create playlist in apple music and other streaming services.
become the knight is a mate of yours, he's a massive metal fan, I love metal but love watching your content, they hate any critics, I mean if you say alot of negative on Megadeath, deftones, tool, dream theater, but honestly you have some great points
Bullying the bullies makes you as bad as the bullies
I love your opinions! I enjoy watching all the stuff and don’t get bent bc it’s just opinions. Too many people have their identity ingrained in their musical interests.
I base my identity on watching Finn Mckenty videos so when people criticize him I cry for 37 hours straight.
37? In a row?
Same
Flip the bird and get on with your life I get worked up about metal but why get bent out of shape over words I get more worked up because I can't get into modern metal
@@emperortrevornorton3119 have you listened to Finn Mc Kenty's Extremely Satanic Slam Brutal Death Metal band?
@@asap1205 rookie numbers
FINN FOR PRESIDENT 2024 - He doesn't properly worship Deftones, but damn it he smells the right fingers.
That's it Finn you called out one of my hobbies and now I'm insecure about it. I'm team reddit that's it. Find me in the comments section next week comparing you to famous dictators.
High five! We did it Reddit!!
Finntler
No! This is blasphemous to my chosen lifestyle and my sense of identity! I'm going to pick my overweight ass off of this chair, put on my "war vest," grab my spiked club and smash my TV tray in a blind rage like a black metal version of Nikado Avocado!
Seriously though, I've listened to metal most of my life, have always avoided tribalism (mainly because I had no consistent friends when I was younger) and I found this video hilarious. 😂
When a music genre becomes your entire identity and you spend precious moments of your life talking shit about people for their opinions or taste in music, that is when someone has truly lost the meaning of music. Music is extremely personal and meant to put the listener in a happier place regardless of what someone else thinks of whatever you're listening to. That's literally as simple as it is.
Confessed metalhead and a fan of your content Finn, keep it real.
Josefinn Stalmckenty
I'd argue music isn't meant to put anyone in a happier place.
If he had opinions about just the music cool. But he goes to far and goes after the fans.
I don't care if someone does not like Epica or Sabaton. But I draw the line at attacking the fans.
We all have different tastes. If people like you and Finn can't handle that then maybe grow thicker skin.
The main problem that I and many people have with Finn is that he talks shit about music genres, fanbases, and other things he doesn't like and it pisses off fans of those things. It's not rocket science. I'm not even a metal fan. I just don't like his trolling.
His shit talking is inherently negative, but if anyone has a problem with it and responds in anger, he insists that THEY are the negative ones, not him.
He gets off on the negative responses (most of the time; other times too much negative feedback brings him down, as he admitted on Twitter).
It's like if someone punches you and wonders why you punched back instead of taking it like a good sport.
Or it's like throwing gasoline on a fire and being surprised that the fire flared up.
Finn and his fans say that the metal fans are insecure, but honestly who likes when people talk shit about the things you love? How is that ok?
Metal fans in particular are passionate about their favorite music and don't take kindly to people attacking their favorite thing.
If you disagree with his takes for any reason, even if you are civil, he will screenshot your comment, post it on his social media, and call you a butthurt manchild or Reddit metal nerd. You just can't win with him.
He's flippant, dismissive, arrogant, ignorant, and constantly has hot takes, almost always bad ones. That's what people have a problem with and I'm far from the only one.
At a certain point, Finn needs to reflect on his behavior and consider that maybe he is wrong sometimes, not always the metal nerds, but he rarely admits to being wrong.
He defends himself as "just joking bro", but it's hard to tell if he's just joking or just talking shit and and using joking as an excuse.
Even if he is joking, I don't find his deadpan humor funny at all. It's just douchey.
But hey, this is just my opinion. This post is long, but I'm just being honest and I just wanted to explain myself. Finn might screenshot this or call it overly long word salad or whatever. I don't care.
I'm not some cartoonish Finn hater. Metal nerds are his bogeyman that he often puts the blame on. But I'm not a metal fan. I do watch Finn's videos and read his tweets, but I have mixed feelings about them.
Sometimes I like what he says and sometimes it pisses me off. Sometimes he says something insightful that I never considered before and sometimes I think his takes are bad and way off.
But either way, unlike his fans, I don't play good sport and tolerate when Finn attacks the things I love without saying something about it.
Tabitha Stanton "you spend precious moments of your life talking shit about people for their opinions or taste in music"
You mean like Finn does so regularly? Then by your logic, Finn has truly lost the meaning of music and I agree.
I'm a metal fan and have been for nearly two decades. You make a lot of intriguing points about the gimmicks and antics of the genre. I personally just like to hear somebody talk about thing I love from an analytic point of view and I always giggle when you're taking the pi$$ at metal. Keep doing you Finn, the community needs you.
Same
Loved this explanation, I think it’s really important for people to understand that basing your personality around politics, music or a “thing” is a sure fire way to get yourself wrapped in knots about topics which don’t give a fuck about you
As a metalhead who uses reddit, you fucking nailed it. I used to be guilty of metal tribalism, and I'm so glad I opened my mind up to a larger variety of music. And your channel is one of the reasons I've discovered new music and broke out of the metal elitism. I'm still a big metalhead at heart, but I'm so glad I've broke free of that gatekeeper mentality
The next step is to stop identifying as a "metalhead," like I finally did in my late 40s. The whole shtick is so juvenile.
That's how I was with hip hop in my late teens and early 20s. I would spend hours arguing on the internet about my beloved "real hip hop." It was almost an obsessions because it was MY hip hop. A decade later, I look back and just facepalm at how much of a neckbeard basement dweller I was.
@@fclefjefff4041 Nah, that's you being pedantic/wannabe-superior. Metalhead doesn't have to mean anything more than metal fan, whether people call themselves that is irrelevant.
@@straightfiremetalstraightf7547 Maybe. It's hard not to feel superior to 40- and 50-year-olds screaming SSSLLLAAAAAYYYEEERRRR!!! like fucking idiots. Only "metalheads" do that 😄
@@fclefjefff4041 You deleted your response, you sounded too much like a smug bore in it I guess
''@straightfiremetal straightfiremetal Maybe. It's hard not to feel superior to 40- and 50-year-olds screaming SSSLLLAAAAAYYYEEERRRR!!! like fucking idiots. Only "metalheads" do that 😄''
I think this my favorite video of yours. This could be applied to everything polarizing people nowadays. It all comes down to being insecure, not having a strong core, and filling that identity void by identifying with social groups and things outside one's self. If we adressed the core issues leading us to behaving this way then perhaps we could prevent us from going through all the unnecessary violence going on right now. Also, maybe people could benefit from developing a sense of humor. Not taking myself so seriously has helped me cope with my own shit so I don't take it out on others who are also struggling.
well said. market interactions replacing social interaction indeed has alienated people from the freedom and self-determination that would otherwise lead them to fulfillment. addressing the ownership over the production of society by a small minority of financialists -- seeking a populist solution that helps the many, getting to the root material, physical causes for these issues is the solution - I wholeheartedly agree if people's needs were met violence could be avoided. and Finn is 100% right about all the politicians speaking to this right now being phony. all current politicians are liberals (whether progressive or conservative) who seek the same goal of preserving the anarcho tyranny of the free market, placing profits before people. any new way forward that genuinely helps the people must be OF, BY, AND FOR THE PEOPLE. I believe the next American Revolution will come and the American People's Republic will be established with Liberty and Justice For All per the Constitution. Communities and jobs rebuilt, social institutions and relations restored. debts forgiven. On Earth as it is in Heaven. The Great Jubilee. We just have to build the Kingdom now.
@@kage6613 🤣
Ska fans and metal heads finally found something they agree on! You really bring people together.
Wrong. Ska fans have a sense of humor. We know our favorite genre sucks :P
When ideology becomes identity. This is an issue today that spans more widely than music cliques.
Exactly
Well put.
I can get behind this
I support this
@@spellman007 Are you replying to the wrong thread? ...because your question has absolutely nothing to do with my comment.
This is why I've dug your stuff since Sergeant D and SYWH. You really understand how people latch onto their hobbies and make their whole identity about them, and are great at poking fun at that, but most importantly, understand how this attitude is both unhealthy to the individual as well as to the subculture they think they're upholding.
Really good vid, man.
Thanks for the support for so long!
Reddit has become Twitter for people who have convinced themselves they're too good for Twitter. I'm a power metal fan and yet I can still get down with your opinions. Keep up the great work, love your content.
“All these pop artists are the people who picked on me in high school” in reality most pop artists, hip hop and rappers grew up on rock/metal and are influenced by them. This is also the case for a lot of fans too, that jock who picked on you also listened to Limp Bizkit bro. But people overall need to grow up and develop a you do you mentality, that would solve a ton of problems we have.
"most" ehhh that's a big stretch
"To turn consumption of music into your identity, is pretty unhealthy"
Great point from Finn. And yes this applies to anything, particularly politics these days.
I used to be a militant metal nerd, but in my late 20's I realized that there are more important things in life than my taste in music. I love all those classic metal bands you like to shit on in your videos, and honestly, that's why I enjoy your content a lot! I like seeing all the metal fan tropes get brought up and shit on because I can relate.
I love your analogy of criticizing someone's interest is like criticizing them personally. That's why we have fandoms from all kinds media such as movies & tv shows, that become so outraged when something from that property sucks.
I had a great childhood and have loved metalcore, death core, death metal, most metal, since I was a teenager.
Hey Finn, I'm a "metalhead" and I love watching your videos. Even when I disagree you always have an interesting perspective. I think the people that hate you just don't have enough going on in their lives. People need to take things less seriously across the board. It's unreasonable to believe that everyone should like the things that you like. I agree with you that there's an inherent sensitivity built in with a very specific sect of metal fans because they've spent years trying to explain to people why they like heavy metal. What's unfathomable to me is how quick these same people are to make assumptions about other genres and occasionally even use the same phrases they once "defended" metal against. "That's not REAL music" is the first thing that comes to mind. I've heard people say that about metal and then metalheads turn around and say the same thing about pop or country or hip-hop. Its exasperating how tribal everything has to be these days. There are no laws against having Suffocation , Taylor Swift, Wu-Tang and Tyler Childers all on the same playlist people! haha Any way MBA or no MBA keep it coming my dude!
You know what imma say it. I like Finn's content and his takes. I've found many new bands that I like through his content and also a couple of new 10 albums. So thanks for that.
agreed i have been able to find some solid music outside of my comfort zone from finn!
Sir Finn, you are honestly one of the most sincere, mindful, and diplomatic Individuals I've ever known man. You've helped shine a light on so many topics that don't often get spoken about and offer a perspective that is genuinely refreshing and enlightening. I used to be one of those metalheads with a crab like mentality back in high school and seeing that inner circle of metalheads still exist and fester within thr community; it makes me so fucking sad and cringe honestly whenever such people make themselves known. I'm so happy that I no longer resonate with that, and that I grew past making music my identity (although I'm a die hard fanatic and love playing guitar everyday)
While I know I don't need anyone's validation, I just wanna highlight and emphasize how your perspective and influence validated and helped me grow out of that gatekeeper mentality I once had in high school and not be so tribulistic as I was once was. Just wanted to say thanks man. I take myself waaay less serious now than I used to, and I feel honestly for the lack of a better word liberated and happier. Thank you man. Your power within your perspective reaches far more than you may think bro ✊️ I can go on and on but I think I rambled enough lol. Stay safe and I hope all is well upon your side of the universe good sir. ✊️
I appreciate the support!
Man, you’re spot-on with this. The action figure collecting community is in a civil war right now over a $350 car with flames.
🤣🤣🤣wtf
A friend of mine makes designer toys and it blows my mind how rancid those people can be
you’re a smart/ funny/ insightful dude who’s actually putting himself out there and gaining success with it! I’ve been watching your vids for years now. I appreciate how you’ve promoted a lot of the stuff I like! For better or worse. All I will say is be careful not to alienate some of your more well meaning fans in the process of calling out whatever… fresh Reddit hell that was. I know you’ve said you read all your comments and have heard many RUclipsrs say that very thing has been hard on their psyche. Anyways We’re all just out here trying to make it through each day the best way we know how. I just got called a “h0m0” by a group of refugee kids yesterday and… I may have screamed shutup u lil fukkrs back and I just hope things don’t escalate now.
Your haters are a testament to your success! Being ignored would be far worse, and for every one of those people who talk shit you have someone like me who para-socially adores you and loves your positivity, balance and humour. You’ve made it Finn. Nice words as ever and you have my vote for power.
The Opinion Man - I loved the post you did on Band Maid and the Yellow Fever followers - thanks for the shows !
At my school when I was a kid, I'm 47, it was the metal kids who were cool and the bullies. That drove me to Hardcore and Punk, then the whole 'tough guy' Hardcore thing or NYHC.
10:04 I'm sure there's many people who this applies to, but I got into death metal when I was 10 years old because I thought it sounded cool and different from a lot of what I knew. Metal has always been a positive part of my life :)
I've been a metalhead for 20 years and you're totally right in this video! I recently subscribed and really enjoy your videos.
I agree with what you said about people's identity people defined by consumerism, media and entertainment not being healthy. I have been saying that for awhile that it's creating a new kind of mental health crisis that will only get worse over time. Part of my identity is music cause I am a musician. I have a home studio, I produce music as an extension of who I am, what I feel and as a means to channel what is going on in my head. I am also a father and that takes part of my identity. I love doing things outdoors and identify as an adventurist person. I am a fulfilled person. But with so many people having issues not understanding who they are or have anything fulfilling in their lives it's easy to grasp on to media as a way to fill those gaps.
They hate you cause you hold a mirror to them and they don't like what they see. You have even said things that make me take a look at myself, but I don't get mad about it, I take it more as a reminder that I need to be better, if anything thanks for it, it promotes personal growth and that's always a good thing. ♥️
I hope this doesn't hurt too bad, Finn; even if I don't always agree with your opinion, I still find it valuable, and you don't deserve the hate.
I will share though, that I am maybe that rare exception of someone who grew up with a perfect childhood and still got into metal, haha. Seriously, my family is all into country music and pop, and I'm into rock and metal, but I got into cause of the "energy and power" that comes from it. As much as I love metal though, I'm realizing more and more that I don't have much in common with actual metalheads, haha.
You're not just talking music anymore brotha, now you're talking philosophy and life. Love u dude
I think this video makes an excellent point. I got into metal as a young kid (7-8ish, definitely before I turned 10). Metal was my favorite genre back then, and at 28 it's still my favorite genre. Metal has always been part of my identity, but the emphasis is on "part". The truth is that I was never "just" a metalhead; I also enjoy: funk, jazz, pop, hip-hop, gaming, fishing, biking, hiking, kayaking, partying, dancing, programming, etc. And this isn't some "woo look at how special I am" moment. I'm just a metalhead who turned out to be a regular, well-rounded guy. If what I say seems like grandstanding, maybe get some more hobbies.
Diehard metalheads act like popular people are the biggest bullies, but I've had plenty of these people I expected to be my peers talk shit to me for being a poser and not liking the right bands or liking the wrong bands (which they usually called "g@y"). For a community that prides itself on being counterculture and going against the grain, many of its members sure like to put people in boxes and dictate who's "trve" and who's not
I make consuming Finn's videos my identity. Don't you dare attack this man or I feel insulted!
Haha
metalheads rage against anything tbh lmao but as others echoed, i think you just challenge so many notions they seldom question. i genuinely enjoy your vids, even as a active "metal listener".
pd: you're right, they can't meme.
I'm a metalhead and I don't hate you. It's entertaining to me because there's some things I agree with you and some others than I don't, that's what makes it interesting 🤘🎶
Hey Finn I'm a life long metalhead and find you very knowledgeable and informative. I thoroughly enjoy your channel and your take on various musical topics. I don't always agree with you but I respect your opinion.
Enjoy your channel, and a metal fan. For what is worth, one of the reasons I listen is because I know I am going to get reactions to music that are very different from my own. Also you seem interested in a similar musical geography to me, but when it comes to metal you just seem interested in different metal sounds than I am (which I think is fine). I find it helpful to see other peoples reactions so I can remember the musical taste is just like any other taste. And it is interesting to me that so much of the contention is around genres of music that occupy very similar sound space (for example you might like a heavy song, but not the right kind of heavy song for another persons' style). It is also generally good to know that others aren't always enthused by what appeals to me.
I grew up listening to classic metal, and loved everything from Sabbath to Iron Maiden, but also got into death and ultimately doom metal (early doom up into the early 90s). I've also made a point of listening to other styles of music. I was a guitar player and took lessons and one of the things a good guitar teacher (or any music teacher will do) is find the things you like within the style of music you enjoy (i.e. minor keys, certain time signatures, particular scales, etc) and direct you to music you might not otherwise find. He sensed some baroque sensibilities in some of the metal and had me learn Bach (which opened up a world for me), but he also heard those minor keys and showed me music like Strange Fruit or Paint it Black. I think being able to understand that not everyone shares one's taste, and being able to listen to music outside your taste, even if you don't like it and it's just to give it a fair hearing, is a strong sign of musical maturity. Whenever people get defensive, I sense insecurity there. And that isn't to say people shouldn't have passionate opinions. It is music, it makes us feel emotions, we are going to have strong reactions to it. But keeping an open mind and appreciating differences in taste is pretty key I think.
Finn's tastes are a polar opposite to mine, but I find his content interesting too. I run a Metal group on Facebook and when I've posted Finn's videos before - I've seen how hated he can be! haha.
i love giving you sarcastic shit about ska, which feels like a fun back and forth relationship between us. i just see the ska references like hidden love letters to me, but never take it seriously because i couldnt give any shits about anyone elses opinion of stuff i like, its my likes and thats fine and their welcome to theirs.
I love ska and laugh whenever he let's his hate be known. It always gives me a fun chuckle haha
@@Nick_CF exactly, i just laugh and say... oh finn, youre so wrong, but we love you anyway. im just waiting for the ska 2.0 resurgence and bowling shirts and checker print slip ons come back in style.... i would love to see this generation of rappers dress in ska attire... that would really shut him up...
Trust me, that ring endorsement camera pointing thing was powerful！it gets me every time you do it
Known underground genre slam with small bands such as Internal Bleeding Suffocation and Devourment.
I could be described as a "Metal Head", but I have zero discontent for Finn. Today listened to an album called "Epidemic Of Violence" by a band called Demolition Hammer. Absolutely fucking savage shit. Yet, I love watching videos about Pop Punk and Imagine Dragons. Keep it going man 🖤
Demolition Hammer are sick especially that album!
Demolition Hammer freaking kills!
I'm a metalhead & sub to both of your channels. Although I don't always agree with your opinions, I find you interesting & love your content. Just thought I'd say this 🤘🤘🤘
My thoughts, too. Don't agree with his opinions of Tool and Megadeth, but he loves Pantera so I let the rest slide.
same
Same. I think sometimes his generalizations are a little too sweeping / lacking nuance, but I still like Finn’s commentary and I often discover good stuff from his videos
Agreed
I just turned 18 and I started really getting into rock when I was about 13-14. It's honestly just slowly evolved from bands like 3 Doors Down to where now I'm chilling out listening to Slaughter to Prevail and Motionless in White. Childhood has been great, I just really love the music yk.
really interesting perspective! and great video!
Wait…so you don’t have an official MBA in punk rock?
It's simple:
If you critique, it's hate. If they do it (like they do 24/7), it's enlightened, educated, elite-level discourse on a nuanced genre.
but they're the kind of person to smell their own fingers
If anybody knows how to beat a dead horse it’s metal fans.
Totally enjoy and appreciate your takes, Finn
What headphones are you using in this video? Or what do you use for daily listening?
For the record I love your videos even when I don't agree with you, I also have you to thank for sparking my interest in slam - check out blistering defilement, modern band but not overproduced
Audio technica ATH m50
I'm just saying as a metalhead who disagrees with you at times, very few things exasperate me more than other metalheads. Keep up the good work!
Facts hahahahah
We’d totally get along at a concert 🙌
The virgin Metal Fanatic versus the Chad Metal Enjoyer
So true, it is an actual thing lol
I like a lot of the music you shit on, but also a lot of the music you enjoy. If people cant handle that each person is different thats a them problem, stay true Fin you're an awesome guy.
I think it's really challenging in the 1st place if you want to spread documentation and opinion of alternative, rock, metal, and punk culture. We want that kind of infos but gatekeepers try to eat you out bc of 'refined taste' and shunned everything and everyone who tries to do that. Loudwire is mocked as a Metal WatchMojo now, but if you want to preserve your genre to the masses and new folks, you have to give that information. That's why i love your channel, Finn. You bring new infos to any genres that u interested in and not afraid to put your personal opinion to it, keep up the good work... .
I listen mostly to thrash and grew in the New Wave of Thrash Metal or whatever is it called. I got hundreds of comments in r\metal and r\metalmemes because I said Lorna Shore was cool. I left and now I hang out with Deathcore guys. I like Deathcore guys, they only talk about something called stankface and cool pants. I like them.
It's cool bro👍thrash metal is amazing as well
Just ignore these haters. I think the problem is that you dare to speak open about certain things that don't work good in the metal scene instead of praising that everything's fine.
But if you'd say that everything's fine in metal, noone would talk about you.
Btw, you've talked so much nonsense about Europeans, but I don't care. You're still my favourite RUclipsr.
Saw a comment on a video the other day that referred to toxic elitist metal fans and I was confused because most of my interactions with metal fans are positive. But I don't visit metal reddit and now I can see what that commenter was referring to.
I don’t think someone else’s opinion should effect people in such a way, as if it renders what you like inadequate. You like what you like, that’s the beauty of things. Don’t always agree with you Finn but I love your videos!
I’m a metalhead and you’re hilarious and informative. I also don’t mind that you like punk but not post-punk, trap but not shoegaze. Why would I care!? Who says everyone has to agree?
King, if Reddit is hating on you, then you're doing something right in life.
You obviously don’t know Brendan Schaub.
@@bertfinland6720 nope, never heard of him.
Subscribed: Now on both channels. Bravo with the difference in both channels.
What I really would like to see on this channel. And especially from you. Looking forward to see a video from someone.
What's the difference in personality if you listen to
- black metal
- hardcore metal
- symphonic metal
- metalcore
...
or even metal vs pop...
Power metal are the happy guys and black metal are the... you know what I mean. ;)
First I liked you, after a while not so much. But now with both channels I really like your approach.
I honestly love all of your metal videos, even if i dont agree with them fully. I would like you to make more of them.
I'm a classic metalhead, with Iron Maiden being my favorite band since the mid 80s. I even like cheesy embarrassing power metal. But I actually appreciate your opinions and your views on music. I literally see music as walking into an art museum. Although metal is my core favorite I can't imagine not enjoying most other forms of music. You can have your favorite artwork but you can love other forms of Art. Music is funny that way. I like the intricacies of power metal and prog metal such as dream theater but every once in a while you have to blast blitzkrieg bop. Edit- I also appreciate the fact that he brings to light the ridiculousness of people feeling victimized by social justice warriors. A lot of old school metal fans tend to be conservative where I'm from. Whether it be politics or the fact that they only like stuff their band did in the '80s. I have my preferences but I don't fit that mold completely.
I have considered myself a metalhead for 28 years and I love your channel.
This is actually a really insightful video. I don’t watch a ton of the Videos you make but I am a fan by how maturely you articulate your points and options. Music hits everyone differently. I think it’s good to have a wide range of music in ur background. I think shutting out entire genres is unfortunate. I feel that everyone is entitled to their opinions and should not attack others for differing views
Damn I feel extremely fortunate to be a big fan of many bands from every sub-genre of metal, hardcore and punk. Throw in some J. Cash, Jamie Johnson and Billy Strings too when I finish this Ekulu playlist.
I love what you said. It's true. It's a problem basing your identity on consuming politics, music genres, celebrities, ECT.
It's etc (et cetera), not ECT 😄
@@fclefjefff4041 auto correct on my phone Grammer nazi
@@D-Ross86😂 No one's phone has a dictionary containing "ect"
@@fclefjefff4041 apparently mine does for some reason. ECT I just tried again and it did it again
@@D-Ross86 Yes, because it's learning non-existent words from you 😄
I agree on what you say about the whole identity thing. I'm 18 rn. I collect pokemon to points of having not been able to pay for gas and I base a lot on metal and movies and games which I don't know how to stop. Most of my general knowledge about like actual life and social interaction is based on how characters work. I got beat up in school and left high school because of it. I have like no clue how to stop this issues. I'm on medication. I've gone to 4 therapists. I don't know what to do but I know it's an issue and I guess that's a good start. Finn you're videos have often made me realize that I need to find more in life and I just don't know how rn.
Now I do think I haven't always been the best human. I accepted the beatings but later did get abused in relationships which I do not think are my fault. However leaving school caused isolation which was my fault and I don't know how to help myself. I have to move out eventually. My parents want me to go to college. (I'm doing virtual school now). I don't know what I want to do in life and it's scary.
Hang in there! If you are in therapy and taking medication, you’ll get this figured out.
Try joining a club or something. Go meet people IRL, even if its awkward or scary
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA you are a wonderful human Finn. Thank you
Lets get this man to 100k already.
As a bonafide metalhead I can honestly say I love Finn's takes. The fact that Finn causes much consternation among the Metal community just proves he is more Metal than all of you. Because Finn lives rent free in your head.
Finn has possessed your souls more than the dark lord you tools practically worship. What could be more Metal than possessing your souls.
Brutal
Im not a metalhead, but im obssessed with you finn. Not in a homosexual way or anything. Just a follow you to your house and watch you sleep from the window kinda way.
Nobody thinks "homosexual" unless YOU bring it up dude...
@@shelbyspeaks3287 well yeah. Its what made the comment funny. Sorry for triggering you.
I'm a huge metal head and I love you Finn! We disagree sometimes but that's okay. We can't all agree on everything. I love your content Finn. F the haters man!
Thank you Finn! You've said what I've thought for years! Now, name.five songs? Lol!
Metalheads are the biggest gatekeepers out of any fandom. Saint Peter is probably a metalhead.
Gatekeeping is in the eyes of the poser....
@@Anonymous-wb3nz great retarded point.
You've also called the metal community sexist, racist, and have made broad negative assertions (like the majority of this video until the last couple of minutes when you admit you have been antagonistic) multiple times; and you wonder why the community has an issue with you?
Also, a lot of your takes are inconsistent. You say that metal is stuck in the past and too generic but then say slam and death metal are dead because those genres morphed into something you don't like. Do you not think this might be why people don't like your opinions.
I'm sure some of the criticism is unwarranted but a lot of it isn't.
That is also true
I gotta look up these subreddits I had no idea…
Love the Philly sports reference because that is just scratching the surface at how wild the fans are, haha
Sorry but I can agreed about many things but not the fact that who listen to extreme music is clearly “dysfunctional”. This is extremely simplistic and quite wrong, I have no bland taste about anything…art, literature and of course music. I like the aesthetics, I like the energy of it…had perfect childhood, went to uni, I have a great career. It’s time to stop with this “listen to good boyfriend country” so you’ll put yourself in a better place…and pleeeease stop necessarily linking everything to “mental health” & co, that’s the justification for everything apparently, every hipster (according to them) has at least a couple of “conditions” because apparently that’s so cool right now… 🤦🏻♂️
Once I commented somewhere, on a metal page on Instagram I think, or something like that : " I'm the type of dude that likes Suffocation and Abominable Putridity but also Counting Crows, Miley Cyrus, NOFX and Three 6 Mafia" and, man, I got a ton shit of shit for being able to enjoy diverse music. hahaha
Anyway, love the service you've been doing for metal and alternative music, mad respect.
Diversity is a good thing. People are in bubbles. I'll listen to Blondie then listen to some Fossilization. Or maybe some I, parasite. Better yet. Listen to some Crime Boss. Or some Van Morrison. Can't be a robot.
I just listened to the new Taylor Swift and Arctic Monkeys records this morning. They were both very good, and then I listened to Drudkh's new singles. I've got the new Exhumed queued up next.
I'm not even sure metal fans on internet really listen to metal! 😂 They spend so much time trying to define what's cool or not, that they all sound like teenage girls at a beauty contest with Phil Anselmo as beauty queen! 😂 Look at the hate that Lorna Shore get, and nothing of it keep them from being successful! I love metal but the metal internet community is so uptight and frigid that it's embarrassing, and give a wrong perspective of what we really are. I hope you're talking about a small but unfortunately very loud minority. We love you and your work Finn! 😂
I vividly remember the moment I started liking metal. Linkin parks in the end came on TV and I froze in the middle of my living room. The heavy distorted guitars and the over mixed drums immediately hooked me. I won't say that I wasn't a negative child (truthfully I just don't really remember my early years very well) but I just find the blanket statement that metalheads are attracted to heavy music for negative reasons unsettling. Metal has always made me feel positive. Its the music though not the message or the lyrics for me.
Love your channel!
Idk when you went to school but at my school in the late 90’s/early 2000’s social groups were made up of kids that listened to certain kinds of music. I grew up in South Florida where if you were into rock you were a “Freak” (that was the actual term lol), if you were into Rap you were a “Basser”, if you were into Pop you were a “Prep” etc.
Music was everybody’s identity & you were totally judged based on what music you liked.
Now I’ll say that when I moved to KY in the mid 2000’s, it wasn’t like that at all. It just depends on where you grew up 🤷♀️
Any time I see "metal fans" in the upload title, I know the video is about to be spicy!
I come from a place of dysfunction and insecurity and negativity and that persecution complex. I used to be more like that, saying my identity was the music i like and the music i make, before that it was Sci-fi and Star Wars when i was a kid, and in 2014 when i became vegan it shifted more towards that… but i realised that i am not what i consume, create, i am not my value set, etc.
I think when you are like that it’s because you simply haven’t delved deep enough into your own mind to understand who you are. Those people are too preoccupied getting offended to actually live in the now and just be themselves instead of being a signpost for what they love
As one of those metalheads, WE DO NOT OWN THEM haha. Love your content. Keep it coming!
Nailed it
Finn just wanted to say I 100% agree on the consumption being unhealthy as it consumed my life and my life really did feel like it revolved around music and entertainment in general. I'm now finally reaching a place in life where I don't care at all about others opinions of my personal interests but now I'm terrified as I'm 34 and don't have anything significant in my life to care about. If you do end up reading this would love to hear an idea of two on ideas for getting into a more healthy "normal" life I guess. I'm pretty bad with social settings until I get to know people.
Put yourself out there and make some friends! You will be glad you did, even if its scary at first. Go to some kind of group events like a cooking class, book club, etc.
Awesome video. Yeah, consumerism is as sad of a life as addiction. There are a lot of people who confuse consumerism for community, and music subcultures are rarely communal, and the main marketing tactic that brands (and bands) have is selling you in the idea of getting their thing will connect you with a community, and it won’t, it just won’t. Communities are made of people and not stuff, and stuff isn’t a strong enough basis for a community. Music could be, but if your entrance to that subculture is by way of consumption, either it isn’t a real community, or you aren’t really part of it. Community requires provision too, not just consumption, both in a meta and literal sense.
They hated Finsus because he told them the truth
Is Finsus his Christian name?
@@maynard_plumm Finsus McChristy
I just hope they won't crucify him like Jesus...
He took a single video and fed thousand haters at once!
I think you're completely right. Anyone who bases their who identity around one thing, whether that thing is metal, anime, weed, sports, exercise, is boring.
Now I'm curious if other RUclipsrs like Razorfist end up on there
Hey Finn I am a metalhead + I think you are awesome! I love your channel bc I always find cool new stuff to listen to that I wouldn't have searched out on my own. I completely agree with your take on certain metalheads taking themselves wayyy too seriously. The metalheads who don't listen to anything except metal are the ones I try to stay away from as they seem to more often suffer from overly elite self-perception while also bashing everyone else for having different tastes.
PS- I laugh soooo fucking hard at your black metal videos/ jokes + black metal is one of my favorite genres of metal. I'll be the first to admit that black metal fans can be super disgusting + nasty, especially online, so I just keep to myself n listen to the music instead of participating in BM communities.
Thank you!
Wait, so are you saying I should or shouldn’t wear my Imagine Dragons shirt to the Spite concert next week?
No one cares bro
Do it
@@DeathcoreManiac I care, but then again I’m no one 🤷♂️
Being a battle vest wearing, long greasy haired, neck beard enthusiast usually breeds a deep and fragile insecurity.
Hey! I was wondering, since you ll never be able to please your metal audience, and probably a lot of your followers are into art and "arty deep dives", if you could shed some light on your favourite visual artists aside from music / scene related things.
Like, what got you interested in futurism? Or what's on your angle on Bauhaus? Do you have a soft spot for the old masters? Have you beed to the Louvre Uffizi Gallery etc, and what did you like?
Or what are artists that are under appreciated?
Would love to hear about this stuff from you.
As always, keep up the great work, u have the ability!
Yep I love futurism and cubism! Big fan of dada as well. But I don’t think my audience wants me to make art history videos.
You re probably right... Sadly so, I think it would be awesome
This should be a PSA, kidding but not-kidding. Terrific analysis
It's been like this forever...I was at a Danzig show in the early nineties and a young woman punched me in the mouth because I mentioned that I thought Annihilator sucked...just keep being you...
You were right
Yeah. Annihilator does suck 😂
Jesus man. I hope you gave her a piledriver on the concrete.
I think any metalhead who is mature enough to enjoy something despite having differing opinions is a fan of Finn, the only problem is that metal fans aren’t mature and can’t stand someone with a different opinion on something because they act like children
I would argue that that's not completely true... I think it's the whole "vocal minority" and "I am my hobby" thing. From my own experiences so many of the people I know who are "metal fans" are totally fine and all pretty open minded.
The issue is that in any fandom there are people who just like the thing, and other people who's entire personality is based in that thing. And whether that's coffee, metal, trainers, punk, whatever, the small minority of people who base their entire self worth off THEIR hobby are almost always insufferable and always flood and pile on anyone who dare have an opinion different to theirs very vocally.
I know a lot of metal fans that watch this channel and respect Finn as a music fan and content creator even if we don’t always agree, myself included
@@anangelssos "I am my hobby" was a great way to put it. I think it's impossible to not have some part of a hobby injected into your personality, but there are levels to that-and some take it to a very unhealthy and obsessive level.
Idk man, I think its more broad vs metalheads. I've seen punk/hardcore people act the same way. But rn its the meme to shit on metalheads but i've seen it in like every genre. Even this new genre I found out called murder folk and those dudes are insane with being gatekeepers.
@@Turbo_Toad yeah don’t get me wrong a large number of rock fans in general from every genre are like this
I think it's more along the lines of the pop stuff that you listen to. Metalheads wouldn't be caught dead listening to pop which you often promote, but deep down they listen to it too they just won't admit it openly.
Facts. Metal is just another form of entertainment, just like all music. It’s important to not let that (or any other form of entertainment) define you as a person.
R/Metal Memes banned me for being in the Slipknow, Sabaton, Babymetal sub... Those dudes (I doubt there are girls in there) are toxic AF
They are a bunch of man-babies. Leave them alone to stir in their own delusions.
lol I went on there and noticed i was immediately shadow banned lol. Sorry daddies I’ll unsubscribe from r/kpophelp