The Untold Story of Magnum, pi's Deadly Helicopter Crash

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    --Deadly Eps --
    "Skin Deep" (Magnum, p.i.)
    Season 1, Episode 6
    Airdate: January 19, 1981
    Written by: Donald P. Bellisario
    Directed by: Lawrence Doheny
    "Magnum (Tom Selleck) is hired by a former matinee idol (Ian McShane), now seedy and alcoholic, to investigate the suicide of a movie star (Cathie Shirriff)."
    During filming of "Skin Deep," the show's iconic tiger-striped Hughes helicopter crashed into the ocean off O'ahu, killing 33-year-old camera operator Robert Van Der Kar and injuring pilot Robert Sanders.
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  • @Simmer4Decades
    @Simmer4Decades Год назад +13

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    • @tvsbesteps
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    • @chuckgilly
      @chuckgilly Год назад +3

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    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +2

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  • @fincafeliz6402
    @fincafeliz6402 Год назад +359

    Who put this together? You have some major facts wrong and I'm here to "right" them. I am the widow of Robert VdK and I was in Hawaii when the accident happened. They were filming when the chopper went down so the two David's (Jones and Butler) were right there to look for him, long before any rescue chopper came. He was gone. There are currents in the area and sharks so I knew that night what probably happened to his body. His seat belt was not fastened and that's why he was thrown from the chopper. I don't understand the clothes in the chopper. I think I remember keys being returned to me.
    There was no "flame-out" but I'm not surprised the studio would make up what they needed to reject responsibility. It's a well known fact the studios will put you at "risk" for a good "shot". I was told that day by eye witnesses that Sanders was too close to the water and large waves came up and pulled the chopper down. A month later, I saw Bob Sanders in person while I spent Xmas with a good friend in Berkeley. He was so distraught and full of guilt, I had to console him instead of the other way around. He went on to fly the KGO TV News chopper in S.F.
    I was NOT pregnant, but we were trying to start our family at the time.
    And where did you get those pictures? That picture of Robert is from high school and he was 34 when he died. I'd like to know who your source is and why after 43 years this is coming up? Just looking for sensational stories?
    The story of "black face" its totally false. This is the first time I heard it. Sanders is black and the double for the pilot in the show. The double for Magnum decided he didn't want to go up in the air that day so Robert volunteered. Little did they know that decision would change everybody's life forever.
    The studio tried to pay me off with $50,000 workers compensation but since Robert wasn't doing the job he was hired to do, we had them responsible for much more. I had to hire an attorney (a specialist in air crashes) and after 5 years we settled. The attorney got his 35% and I got less than what is stated in this video.
    The worst part is that both David's who were Robert's best friends changed their story under the pressure of not working again. An asst. director willing to talk was found working in Italy where the studio had sent him to work and "stay away". My lawyer found him, so with his "statement" they had no case and we settled. To tell the truth, I was too devastated to ever go through a trial. Robert was my soul mate and the love of my life. He's still with me in spirit. Hollywood is dying. Karma counts.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +76

      Thank you for your post. I’m sorry some of the facts were incorrect. My source for “pregnant wife at home” was Larry Manetti, who talked about it on the E! True Hollywood Story for Magnum as well as in his book. The “black face” story came from a quote from Roger Mosley in a newspaper profile written about him in 1981. Bob Sanders put forth the “flame out” idea only a day or so after the incident in a newspaper story that interviewed him. As for the pictures, Bob’s high school photo was the only one I could find. Thanks again for adding such rich detail to my story. I’m truly very sorry for your loss and would happily forward to you a complete list of the sources used for the video.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад +2

      @@tvsbesteps Back in "the day" we thought we could rely on the press. We know now, we can't so pulling all your facts from news articles on what people "say" is irresponsible unless confirmed. Words mean nothing anymore. Of course, Sanders would put out the "flame-out" theory to alleviate himself of the responsibility he felt, a day later. Let me tell you, that man across the table from me, Bob Sanders a month later, was riddled with guilt. He knew. You can keep your sources. I know the truth and who cares anyways. It was so long ago. I mark the anniversary of his death on Nov. 19th every year. His sudden passing devastated many lives. He will be remembered all these years later as a wonderful and compassionate man.

    • @Aint_no_senators_son
      @Aint_no_senators_son Год назад +25

      Thank you for sharing your story.
      I'm sorry for your loss.

    • @stephencarlson6028
      @stephencarlson6028 Год назад +13

      I'm so sorry you went though that. Helplessness. Anyways thanks for sharing

    • @randallanthony1794
      @randallanthony1794 Год назад +14

      Set it strait thanks for getting it right.

  • @GeorgeSemel
    @GeorgeSemel Год назад +184

    I flew with a guy who did some flying for Magnum PI up in Alaska back in '97, He smacked a ridge in Hawaii sometime later, his widow and a lot of us think that the tail rotor came apart on the machine he was flying. I retired from flying two years ago. I never had any interest in doing tours or flying for movie productions. Guys get pushed to do stupid stuff, like bouncing that skid in the opening scenes of Magnum PI. He told me that he almost lost it too. 40 years in the rearview mirror.

    • @danweyant4909
      @danweyant4909 Год назад +10

      Footage nearly always looks tamer than life, so everything gets juiced for the camera. In regard to aviation, that's trouble.

    • @hotlava8490
      @hotlava8490 Год назад +20

      Or the Twilight Zone film disaster

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit Год назад

      Smack my bridge up.

    • @doonhamer252
      @doonhamer252 Год назад +1

      early mid 90's in Yukon/NWT McKenzie Mtns, We flew with a pilot that also claimed he flew in Magnum shows ..

    • @hhazelhoff1363
      @hhazelhoff1363 Год назад

      You probably were never meant to be a pilot, take up golfing

  • @Eremon1
    @Eremon1 Год назад +71

    Such good memories of these old shows like Magnum PI and Rockford Files. Dukes of Hazard, Knight Rider, A-Team, Fall Guy, etc...the list goes on and on. I didn't know about this crash on the show filming. Reminds me of the Twilight Zone movie crash.
    Glen Larsen is responsible for my love of both Cylons and KITT's iconic scanner light.

    • @daleburnfart6845
      @daleburnfart6845 Год назад +3

      At least you and I have normal times to look back on.

    • @ChadDidNothingWrong
      @ChadDidNothingWrong 11 месяцев назад +1

      I love the Rockford Files. good show

    • @ChadDidNothingWrong
      @ChadDidNothingWrong 11 месяцев назад

      @@daleburnfart6845 Did you also get that fcked up feeling in about the 4th grade that "something is wrong here"?
      That was the first inkling for me that I was being raised in a goddamn insidously vitriolic, yet subtle culture war. (And I was using that actual term before it was ever mentioned in media. Too) I really felt it man.
      You're about to see a real war break out here if they don't stop letting in so many men. A full 1/3 of Gen Z men will be incels for life due to the shortage of 30 million women under 40. Major unrest rarely _does not_ break out when it gets this bad. You won't find it on the census either because these extra 30 million+ men are all undocumented.
      This shits about to get crazy when all the men here realize they are doomed to be lonely old fogeys at age 25.

    • @daphnesuarez5924
      @daphnesuarez5924 11 месяцев назад +1

      TOM SELLECK IS NOT DEAD!

  • @BigLebowski324
    @BigLebowski324 11 месяцев назад +10

    Ian McShane can steal the scene whenever he is in it. An absolutely incredible actor.

    • @IanMoone-f2v
      @IanMoone-f2v 11 месяцев назад +3

      He is indeed

    • @cf8959
      @cf8959 5 месяцев назад +1

      And, suhmokin' hot!!!

  • @oldmanfunky4909
    @oldmanfunky4909 Год назад +57

    This is sad because they had the footage and didn't need to be flying so low. So heart breaking.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Год назад +4

      Yes pilot deserves a decent jail term..

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад +4

      @@fidelcatsro6948 Believe me, he was in hell the rest of his life. I saw it first hand. Remember, in Hollywood you do what you're told and if you don't, they find someone else.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад

      @@ProgNoizesB Excuse me. Find someone else? You've never know true love is you think it can be replaced. AND this was 43 years ago. I'm 77 and not interested in a relationship. I did my life on my own and am proud of it.

    • @Psyrecx
      @Psyrecx 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@fincafeliz6402 Some people do what they're told to do, and others with egos go further.
      This is clearly a case of the latter. The pilot wouldn't even take any accountability for his actions and blames it on anything else.

  • @X-Gen-001
    @X-Gen-001 11 месяцев назад +2

    Magnum P.I. was one of my favorite shows as a kid. Hardcastle and McCormick is another favorite.

  • @mrozboss
    @mrozboss Год назад +26

    My school teacher from the 80s lived next door to Tom Selleck while the filming of this show was being made she used to collect his mail for him and showed us some photos of her with Tom and the red Ferrari was pretty cool to have known her Mrs K was the coolest teacher I ever had in Australia which is were I had her as a teacher in years 7 to 11

    • @slowery43
      @slowery43 Год назад

      we really dn't care, this isn't you or your supposed teacher

    • @tomloomis7897
      @tomloomis7897 Год назад +1

      Calm down Mr. Seagal

    • @nosajdabeno
      @nosajdabeno Год назад +5

      @@slowery43 we being you and the mouse in your pocket?

    • @Littlewing1977
      @Littlewing1977 Год назад

      @@slowery43I care. Calm down chode

    • @Komainu959
      @Komainu959 Год назад

      @@slowery43Thank you for caring enough to read and comment you legend.

  • @VictoryAviation
    @VictoryAviation Год назад +11

    I really appreciate this video essay. I’m a new helicopter pilot (just earned my instructor cert), with the sole intention of becoming a movie film pilot, or aerial cinematography which is the technical term.
    Even though I grew up when Magnum PI was still playing on tv, I had no idea this accident occurred. The most fascinating part is that the footage has stayed concealed even after all these years. I wonder if a FOIA is something that would work to retrieve the footage, if it still exists.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад

      I'd rethink your ambition to work in the movie business. It's not all glitz and glamour and you'll be asked to do dangerous things if "they want the shot". Don't forget, Bob's co-workers were also his best friends. They turned on me and the evidence to protect their jobs and be able to work in the future. Hollywood is dead as all the dark secrets are spilling out. You came here as a Spiritual being to have a human experience. Selling your soul to the devil is the wrong way to go.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад +1

      When I saw this , it was the first time I saw any footage. I was told the actual film of the crash would not be released to "protect me". Yea sure, like they cared about me. No need for a FOIA. I know what happened, as I was there. Seeing the footage means nothing at this point.

    • @daphnesuarez5924
      @daphnesuarez5924 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's FAKE! Tom Selleck IS NOT DEAD!

  • @angloedu5499
    @angloedu5499 Год назад +32

    The helicopter pilots in Vietnam did this routinely to get wounded and dead off the battlefield , all while getting shot at! Gotta admit, these pilots must be unique.

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 Год назад +1

      🫡

    • @martinlauer7837
      @martinlauer7837 11 месяцев назад +1

      They were unique - they were combat pilots who knowingly risked their lives to potentially safe many others!

  • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
    @CRAZYHORSE19682003 Год назад +22

    An early example of identity politics gone wrong. They hired a pilot because of the color of his skin and not his qualifications. Then that pilots poor flying skills and questionable judgement wind up killing someone!

    • @sg-yq8pm
      @sg-yq8pm Год назад +1

      There was nothing inadequate about his flying skills dumfk

    • @duncandmcgrath6290
      @duncandmcgrath6290 Год назад +2

      Those were the qualifications, you missed the whole point .
      Black pilot

    • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
      @CRAZYHORSE19682003 Год назад +7

      @@sg-yq8pm The FAA would disagree with you, he was reckless and got a man killed due to his poor flying skills and decision making.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Год назад +2

      ​@@CRAZYHORSE19682003he was doing what he was paid to do. It is the producers who came up with the stunts.

  • @nocalsteve
    @nocalsteve Год назад +12

    The clips of the helicopter without the emergency floats is a 500C not a D. The D has a 5-bladed main rotor and a T-tail. The C has a 4-blade main rotor and a diagonal tail.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +4

      Thanks for the info! Definitely not a helicopter guy. Lol.

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Год назад +6

      @@tvsbestepsit’s a pretty minor thing that only pilots or enthusiasts would notice. I’ve flown both… love the 500, extremely fun and agile helicopter to fly.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Год назад

      ​@@MeppyManwhich has better handling?

    • @charlesveraxjr8816
      @charlesveraxjr8816 4 месяца назад

      @nocalsteve
      Hang on… of course you are right about the differences between the 500C & 500D.
      But…. You have to keep in mind that over the course of Magnum P. I.’s eight seasons that there were actually four different Hughes MD500’s that depicted T. C.’s “Chopper”. There were three 500D’s & one peel painted 500C.
      The 500C was only temporarily peel painted in the orange, yellow & brown diagonal D4 bands to impersonate T. C.’s “Chopper” long enough to finish filming “Skin Deep” & it also appeared a couples of episodes later, in “The Ugliest Dog in Hawaii” with some of its peel paint, peeling off. They even gave that 500C the fake N58243 registration number to initially cover up the crash.
      After that the 500C only appeared as stock footage & wasn’t used for primary filming once N1095A was found as the new replacement “Chopper”. Once those two episodes & the necessary stock footage of the 500C was filmed, it’s peel paint was washed off & it went back to its normal paint job underneath.
      In addition to N58243 the original “Chopper” that tragically crashed there were two other Hughes 500D (369D) model helicopters that depicted T. C.’s “Chopper”.
      N1095A from S1 through the end of S6 & it did not have the emergency pop out floats.
      Then Jetcopters Inc couldn’t negotiate a contract with Universal Studios & N1095A went away after S6.
      A white 500D (369D) N4943T was painted as a replica of T. C.’s “Chopper” to complete S7 & S8. N4943T also did not have the emergency pop out floats.
      Keep in mind that stock footage of N58243, the unknown 500C, N1095A & N4943T were used throughout the series.
      Only the original Hughes 500D (369D) was equipped with the pop out floats & it tragically crashed during the filming of the 6th episode.

  • @interabang
    @interabang Год назад +6

    Roger E Mosely has to take some blame for the poor guy dying.
    If he hadn't complained about the white helicopter pilot trying to look like his character they wouldn't have had to employ the other guy.

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Год назад +3

      I’m sure he kept his mouth shut after that, cause the very white Steve Kux played his stunt double for the reminder of the series, and his skills as a pilot were absolutely flawless. He was also a great long line pilot also, until a broken control linkage in one of the sister ships he was flying, nearly killed him in Oahu.

  • @victorcurtis6400
    @victorcurtis6400 2 месяца назад +1

    Happy to have found your channel!

  • @frosty3693
    @frosty3693 Год назад +18

    Vietnam scout helicopter pilots were used ot flying very low (5'). So flying low would have been normal for an ex army Hughes Cayuse pilot. So the possibility that the pilot did not take into account that waves are often not consistent and will have some, sometimes much, higher than the others, is a likely guess.

    • @441rider
      @441rider Год назад

      Next to the copter in Capricorn 1 this was a big influence on flying for many I bet.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад

      The waves were unusually high that day. Over 22 feet.

    • @BigLebowski324
      @BigLebowski324 11 месяцев назад

      Ian McShane can steal the scene whenever he is in it.

  • @naybur74
    @naybur74 Год назад +7

    R.I.P...TC............................

  • @chuckgrenci6404
    @chuckgrenci6404 Год назад +5

    Big Magnum fan but never heard the story; chilling. I like the 'new' Magnum but still hold top billing to the original.

  • @bruceleealmighty
    @bruceleealmighty Год назад +15

    The character Thomas Magnum was a SEAL . Although a Special Operations Operative that in no way makes him part of Special Forces 2:10 nor a Soldier since those two very specific terms are part of the Army.
    SEALs are Special Operations Sailors. I know that may be hard to comprehend, but there are Special Operations personnel in all branches of service including Special Forces, Soldiers (Green Beret), Pararescue, Airmen (PJs) Recon Force Marines. Of course that includes Sea Air Land (SEAL) Sailors from the Navy as well as a myriad of other Special Operations personnel from all branches of the service, possibly with the exception of Space Force at the moment. Yes, USCG has Special Operations personnel too.
    Thus endith this lesson.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +2

      Thanks for clarifying. Much appreciated.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 Год назад +4

      I'll go one step further. Being in Special Operations does not require being a SEAL, SF, Pararescue, etc. I spent two years assigned to SOCCENT (Special Operations Command Central) as a logistics planner. As with any military operation, 90% of it is the logistics tail. The pointy end rightfully gets all the attention and the glory because they are the ones assuming the greatest risk.

    • @bruceleealmighty
      @bruceleealmighty Год назад +3

      Support, Service Support and any auxiliary functions can legitimately consider themselves part of an operators realm of influence. This was part of the distress felt for some personnel being able to wear particular identifying apparel, patches and insignias that were (prior to changes) in doctrine only authorized for those that had actually gone through specific training or conflict hierarchy. In all seriousness though personnel are often attached whether they be of support role or direct combat arms, 11B in and of itself is not a designation for Special Operations but may well be assigned direct interdiction duties alongside Special Operation Actions. The US military is by far the most logistic intensive military around the world. It is not uncommon to acknowledge the use of 10 personnel are in full time employment to provide direct and and indirect support for one front line war fighter. Unlike China, Russia and so many other adversarial nations, they may find it hard to have but 3 personnel in support.

  • @Runner2000
    @Runner2000 4 месяца назад +1

    Great channel!
    Love these videos!

  • @cardinaloflannagancr8929
    @cardinaloflannagancr8929 Год назад +8

    Something smells funny if the camera chopper was saying to wrap it up for the day why would the pilot decide on his own to do more takes. Feels to me like someone ordered or requested a redo. The fact that they didn't want the star or even the stunt double for a stunt (isn't that what stuntmen do) really seems strange. My guess is the supposed flameout was a idea of the film studio for a couple reasons. To not get the pilot in trouble or as much for an error and because he was told to do that risky stunt flying too low. Only a couple years later Landis would cause multiple deaths by having a pilot flying too low and getting downed by special effects. Actually still shouting lower as it was struck already being far too low for safety. This feels like a similar situation a pilot pressured into risk by the producers.

    • @AV84USA
      @AV84USA Год назад

      That’s ridiculous. Smelling, feeling, and guessing ends you up in left field…

    • @ReeferMadman
      @ReeferMadman Год назад

      I agree. Something is fishy. I trust the account of the pilot.

    • @AV84USA
      @AV84USA Год назад +5

      @@ReeferMadman if you believe the pilot’s “engine out” story, you have no understanding of aviation and are ignoring the NTSB findings and the very rare suspension by the FAA.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад +2

      You are correct. I am Robert's widow and I put a comment under this video to set the record straight

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Год назад

      @@ReeferMadmanoh yeah, trust a known liar who gave some bs engine failure story? I’ve flown helis for over 20 years, and practically every variant of the MD500, and there’s absolutely no mistaking an autorotation from CFIT, especially since it was all caught on film? the NTSB would’ve instantly caught a engine failure, but they didn’t.

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 Год назад +5

    Pilot negligence it's clear as daylight

  • @omgbygollywow
    @omgbygollywow 8 месяцев назад +1

    Kind of reminds of me of the Twilight movie incident where Victor Morrow and 2 children were killed by a helicopter during filming of a scene.

  • @bccsivxx-xxivvii
    @bccsivxx-xxivvii 2 месяца назад

    I'd never get into those helicopters in Hawaii. I lived out there for several years and read the newspapers every day. Wasn't always on the TV news but every other month or so there was an article about one going down crashing or making an emergency landing. Happens all the time. The winds coming off the ocean and into those mountains is too unpredictable.

  • @donovanreimer2324
    @donovanreimer2324 Год назад +3

    A great detailed report !

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +1

      Much thanks. I enjoyed doing it! Thanks for watching…

  • @lucienpetersen9010
    @lucienpetersen9010 11 месяцев назад +1

    How can we get that footage released i wonder.

  • @russellpowell6634
    @russellpowell6634 Год назад +4

    Sad sad story.

  • @bfmcarparts
    @bfmcarparts Год назад +3

    Ian McShane! 2:20 Kewl dude. Also the hotel manager in the John Wick movies and the RAF flight Sargeant that "went for a swim" in the 1969 movie 'Battle of Britain'.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 Год назад +1

      Don't forget the movie "If it's Tuesday, it must be Belgium" and the TV series "Lovejoy".

  • @AV84USA
    @AV84USA Год назад +17

    The pilot, just on the press quotes, was a liar. He was also reckless, unprofessional, and unqualified for those flying conditions. The fact that appropriately skilled pilots were dismissed simply because their skin tone offended the actor is infuriating, irresponsible, and tragic.
    There is nothing wrong with wigs hats mustaches and makeup for long shots!

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад +3

      Read my comment below the video. You're right. I'm Robert's widow

    • @wattage2007
      @wattage2007 Год назад +1

      That's what I was thinking. A diversity hire with deadly consequences.

  • @charlesfaure1189
    @charlesfaure1189 Год назад +3

    Pilot flies dangerously near the water, then lies after causing the death of his passenger. It's said he was weighed down by the guilt. I sure hope so.

    • @muffinbra
      @muffinbra 11 месяцев назад +1

      🐵🐵🐵

  • @majestyk3337
    @majestyk3337 Год назад +2

    Don't forget to turn your volume back down when you move on to the next video.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад

      Thanks for the feedback! I’m still getting the hang of it.

  • @ollieox9181
    @ollieox9181 Год назад

    I remember the episode: "Did You See the Sunrise?" That was next-level stuff.

  • @elsbethmcewan633
    @elsbethmcewan633 11 месяцев назад +1

    I loved the Rockford Files just as I loved Magnum.

  • @SureJungle23247
    @SureJungle23247 Год назад +1

    The theme song was playing in my head with the video of the helicopter flying, it's was my favourite show when I was 8. Cool paint job on the helicopters too.

    • @justayoutuber1906
      @justayoutuber1906 11 месяцев назад

      The cool theme song wasn't until episode 10 or so

  • @jamiehammond7401
    @jamiehammond7401 Год назад +1

    Beautiful chopper

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic Год назад +1

    5hey right about those old energy signatures

  • @GasPipeJimmy
    @GasPipeJimmy Год назад +4

    They had another helicopter crash too, later on.

  • @mwyatt222
    @mwyatt222 Год назад +2

    l admit l watched the show and loved it but after hearing recently about how he has lured so many elderly people into 2nd mortgages they cant afford and how so many families disrupted estates and lost the ability to pass homes down the kids its upsetting. That add campaign has been going on for years now and he's making fortune and the costs to all those retired fans of his works who are being duped out of their homes is horrendous.

  • @nomusicrc
    @nomusicrc Год назад

    I'm glad I was alive when this originally aired I didn't know this

  • @jeffballard7321
    @jeffballard7321 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've heard too many stories of movie producer's putting shots before people and i absolutely believe the widows story it's a Damn shame movie companies and any companies putting human life at stake for there profits and trying to chisel the families out of money for the lose or damage to their loved ones. That's the big crime here and they get away with it most of the time.

  • @Goldnfoxx
    @Goldnfoxx 3 месяца назад +1

    _"A pair of boots tied at the laces."_ Uhhhhh. What?

  • @tonyelberg7814
    @tonyelberg7814 Год назад

    magnum is one of my favourite showe, i had know idea about this crash

  • @TowGunner
    @TowGunner Год назад +1

    I was expecting to see Lenny Skutnik jump into the water with the footage shown.

  • @danijuggernaut
    @danijuggernaut Год назад +1

    Stupid argument of pilot Sanders. Fly too low on any aircraft is dangerous not only because the near of the ground and posible colission, it´s dangerous because of an engine fail. To gain speed without engine power, it needs altitude to dive nose down and speed up. Flying low was not the main crash cause, it was a sleeve of the chain of causes of the accident.

  • @douglasstone3813
    @douglasstone3813 Год назад +3

    Diversity strikes again.

  • @kylieknight2365
    @kylieknight2365 Год назад

    RIP TC xxx

  • @Iwishiwasflying
    @Iwishiwasflying Год назад +1

    The helos weren’t MD500D as McDonalld Douglas hadn’t purchased/taken over Hughes aircraft company at the time.
    The Helos were just plain Hughes 500 D choppers.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +1

      Thanks for clarifying.

    • @andypeterson8013
      @andypeterson8013 Год назад +1

      Yup, I was trying to figure out what he was doing by saying that the helo is a Hughes MD 500D. I guess an honest mistake by somebody that is not an aviation enthusiast. I have also seen a Hughes 500C used in the filming of the series.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Год назад

      Those were turbine or piston engines?

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Год назад

      Technically they’re the Hughes 369D

  • @MyTube4Utoo
    @MyTube4Utoo 11 месяцев назад

    *RIP Bob*

  • @salvagedb2470
    @salvagedb2470 Год назад +7

    " Did you see the Sun rise " , was for me one of Sellecks best ..it was a Great series .

  • @keithdumas
    @keithdumas Год назад +2

    Sander's should have gotten prison time!

  • @mudkow5092
    @mudkow5092 Год назад +3

    1. Pilot tried to skate blame by claiming engine failure. 2. Marines couldn't search at night?

  • @margaretnewell1751
    @margaretnewell1751 Год назад

    That's sad I didn't know how they make the shows

  • @neatstuff1988
    @neatstuff1988 Год назад +2

    Is flame out is most likely a lie.

  • @johneeeemarry34
    @johneeeemarry34 11 месяцев назад +2

    Diverse and politically correct ‘engine failure’.

  • @Shadmock-qs7zt
    @Shadmock-qs7zt Год назад

    If T.C. says there's no tailwind,
    there's no tailwind.

  • @defritzel
    @defritzel 11 месяцев назад

    helicopters are already expending most of it's energy to beat the snot out of the air. Then add aerobatics and crazy g-forces and it spells disaster sometimes.

  • @andreshernandez1180
    @andreshernandez1180 Год назад

    You say that the divers found the helicopter that fans were familiar with, but that guy says in Aloha Magnum that he was afraid the accident would cause the show to stop “before it even premiered”. Which is it?

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад

      I meant fans today are familiar with it. There would have been no fans at the time.

    • @andreshernandez1180
      @andreshernandez1180 Год назад

      @@tvsbesteps My point exactly, and if this helicopter was only used for a few episodes then it’s just the design that viewers were familiar with since it would’ve been mostly a different one used on the show.

  • @nadagabri5783
    @nadagabri5783 11 месяцев назад

    33. whoa bob was sure unlucky

  • @TheGodParticle
    @TheGodParticle Год назад +1

    I think the worst helicopter crash was on, The Twilight Zone. Very sad.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +2

      Certainly when there are children involved it is especially tragic.

  • @mcarlkv53
    @mcarlkv53 Месяц назад

    satnan wanted that blood sacrifice for the success of the show

  • @andybroer651
    @andybroer651 6 месяцев назад

    My wife and I just took Paradise helicopter doors off trip around Oahu in Feb 2024 and really enjoyed it. Sad to watch this after our tour as Paradise is listed as the company in the crash documentary 😞

    • @OneHoof
      @OneHoof 5 месяцев назад +1

      @andybroer651
      No, Andy. That is incorrect sir.
      The Paradise (K & S) Helicopters that you flew with was not even created until 1997 & is also called K & S Helicopters.
      It was a totally different company in 1980 with the name “Paradise Helicopter INC.” who owned N58243 the Hughes 500D (369D) that crashed.
      The NTSB Report says that the 500D in Bob Sander’s crash that claimed the life of 34 year old Robert Sanders was owned by Paradise Helicopters INC.
      The Paradise Helicopters that you flew with has two nice replicas of the Magnum P. I. Helicopter, but since it wasn’t created until 1997, it had nothing to do with the Magnum P. I. television series from the 1980’s. .

    • @andybroer651
      @andybroer651 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@OneHoof Thanks for that info!

    • @OneHoof
      @OneHoof 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@andybroer651 Yes sir. You are welcome.
      I just wanted to clarify that the “Paradise Helicopters INC.” associated with the Magnum P. I. helicopter crash (N58243) was not affiliated nor associated in any way with the modern Paradise (K & S) Helicopters (cerated in 1997) that you & your wife flew with.
      In a Hawaiian 🌺 paradise, I guess paradise is just a popular name.
      Mahalo!

  • @johnperry5351
    @johnperry5351 11 месяцев назад

    People in Vancouver know those colours

  • @johndoe-cp6vp
    @johndoe-cp6vp Год назад

    paul mantz bought it flying too low after they already had a good take. Just one more the director said.

  • @lcfflc3887
    @lcfflc3887 10 месяцев назад

    what a horrible production team 🙁 give the credits to the writers and actors.

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic Год назад

    DAMN

  • @stephencarlson6028
    @stephencarlson6028 Год назад +2

    why didnt they just stick a helmut m with pull down bkacked out sun visor amd a mic to camo the the white guy to look generic amd possibly black. Btw if yiu work in film makeuo is oart of tge gig. If they are simoky attsntpting to cover up a stunt dude to make hm look more like the actor the best way possible then the actor definitely knows this is not racists or a a an ill joke in anyway. I see now if days we are trashing the actors reason for doubg what they do. You shoukdnt have to play a white guy cause your a white gut. A bkack giy cause your your a ckacj guy wct. Its "acting " amd oushing oneself to minic a character no matter the situation.

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Год назад

      Yep, most people couldn’t even tell you that the Philippine airforce flew all the helicopter stunts in Apocalypse Now, cause they used simple camera tricks, costumes and props to get around them looking American. That’s why they call it “Hollywood Magic”! Only after this crash, did the producers of Magnum PI come to the same realization, in which all the flying stunts were done by QUALIFIED white pilots for the remainder of the series, and just switched them out with Roger Mosley(who had a PPL in rotor wings) for shots at ground idle for close ups.

  • @tomasinacovell4293
    @tomasinacovell4293 Год назад

    They had it coming.

  • @jimthompson8947
    @jimthompson8947 11 месяцев назад

    1:05 Title subject start.
    Not bad, certainly not outstanding.

  • @polar0101
    @polar0101 Год назад +2

    those who watch the series often, know that the pilots flew with very reckless over the land

  • @nightrunner1456
    @nightrunner1456 Год назад

    The movie, FM. in the beginning of the movie, Tom Selleck is the pizza delivery boy.

  • @pedropoloma1205
    @pedropoloma1205 11 месяцев назад

    Been watching lots of original Magnum lately. Loved it as a youth. I retrospect, TC is effing awful. Horrible actor and like fingernails on a chalkboard in most of the scenes he and Selleck are in together. I guess there are those that relish in the whole "gas money" thing with TC & TM, but I was surprised how off-putting it was as I re-watched many of the episodes.

  • @hhazelhoff1363
    @hhazelhoff1363 Год назад

    For good entertainment we will lose some pilots, stuntmen, and actors. The price you pay for good entertainment.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад

      That is the most disgusting thing I've seen so far here. Fuck good entertainment. I lost my soul mate and the love of my life. We were building our dream home and planning a family. I suffered dearly trying to heal and move on. Bob was special and loved by everyone. I never re-married.

    • @hhazelhoff1363
      @hhazelhoff1363 Год назад

      @@fincafeliz6402 I’m sorry for your loss. I hope you find the strength to enjoy every living moment for the rest of you live. And you find love again. It’s out there, you just have to go find it.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 Год назад

      @@hhazelhoff1363 I did find the strength to heal and move on with my life but without a partner. Bob was irreplaceable. I'm an independent person and was happy to be alone. That's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

  • @ryanpotter4138
    @ryanpotter4138 Год назад +1

    Great job, Magnum’s character was actually a former Navy Seal

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy Год назад

    Wow! I don’t remember hearing anything about this at that time!…Then again, back then my hormone and testosterone levels had different plans!😉😉

  • @kmoecub
    @kmoecub Год назад +4

    IT wasn't "untold." This was all over national news at the time.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +10

      Fair enough. But in the last 40 years, I haven’t heard much about it myself. So I guess to anyone under 40, it’s kind of ‘untold’. In that… nobody’s told them.

    • @fincafeliz6402
      @fincafeliz6402 5 месяцев назад

      Correction...it was all over the Hawaiian news but hardly in the national news at all. The series was ready to be released 2 months later and the Studio didn't want the bad publicity.

  • @kingwokosalfordlad
    @kingwokosalfordlad Год назад

    Never knew Ian mcshane was in this ✌️💖

    • @Shadmock-qs7zt
      @Shadmock-qs7zt Год назад +1

      Ian also played a different character in another episode of Magnum. The one about the Mau Mau uprising in 1956. Where supposedly, one surviving Mau Mau was tracking down & killing all of Higgins's old battalion. Great episode.

  • @georgetown8986
    @georgetown8986 Год назад +2

    I have never liked helicopters. They are 1 million separates parts all try to break apart. And they don't forgive.
    Airplanes are significantly safer as they allow for a controlled landing even with engine failure.

    • @californiadreaming9216
      @californiadreaming9216 Год назад +1

      georgetown8986 thanks for your comment. There is some truth in your remark, but it is not entirely accurate. Helicopters actually CAN effect a dead-stick (no engine power) landing. The pilot uncouples the engine from the rotor. Then the pilot uses a combination of downward motion (gravity) against the rotor to induce wind resistance against it combined with forward motion to achieve a safe unpowered descent.

    • @thomashempleman7081
      @thomashempleman7081 Год назад +1

      A helicopter can safely land without engine power. It's called "autorotation". It's not fun but it sure beats a busted flying machine or a dead pilot.

  • @1339LARS
    @1339LARS 11 месяцев назад

    LJ!!!!!!!!

  • @GregoryHawkins-k4b
    @GregoryHawkins-k4b Год назад +1

    Stop calling people by their last names. Call them by their first names.

  • @telescopereplicator
    @telescopereplicator Год назад +1

    "....thanks to a deadly accident."
    Don't you mean : BECAUSE of a deadly accident?
    ".......thanks to two sharks."
    Wrong again. BECAUSE of two sharks.
    I know. English is a very difficult language, especially for those who's native language is English.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +1

      Even in the case of obvious sarcasm? Thanks to this comment, I had to bone up on my noun phrases. Lol. But seriously, thanks for the comment.

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 Год назад

      @@tvsbesteps Ignore the trolls, please! This is the highlight of their day most days! Dont let them have it! LOL

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 Год назад

      Mr Anally Retentive, how much did your mommy & daddy have to pay for your useless degree in English? Im happy you could finally put it to some good use in the comment section. We are so impressed by you. No, seriously, quit laughing! There is nothing more impressive in life than a dork with excellent english skills! But if i may offer you some unsolicited advice: take a couple laxatives before you comment. it will solve many of your problems!

  • @HoosierDaddy_
    @HoosierDaddy_ Год назад +1

    Nope. Just nope.

  • @californiadreaming9216
    @californiadreaming9216 Год назад +2

    Engine failure my *ss.

    • @thomashempleman7081
      @thomashempleman7081 Год назад +1

      If engine failure was a suspected cause, the NTSB would probably recover the engine for inspection. The fact that they apparently didn't leads me to believe that engine failure was pretty far down the list of causes.

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Год назад

      @@thomashempleman7081they would know just from the footage provided by the second helicopter film unit. one of the first things they’d look for is an immediate left yaw.

  • @dudet9662
    @dudet9662 Год назад +6

    diversity hire

  • @user-ib5mx8ro4k
    @user-ib5mx8ro4k 11 месяцев назад

    The guys who fly tours in the magnum pi helicopter are a nuisance. It was so nice during Covid when they were grounded. The whole island was hoping they would go out of business.

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron Год назад

    Magnum tho 😂😂

  • @ronwade5646
    @ronwade5646 Год назад

    Bad Luck?

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 Год назад

      yes! Which part confused you the most?

  • @SmokeGray
    @SmokeGray Год назад +1

    Rotary wing aircraft should not be used for civilian purposes. Especially when it comes to fantasy and leisure purposes.

    • @duncandmcgrath6290
      @duncandmcgrath6290 Год назад +1

      The FAA would see different

    • @andypeterson8013
      @andypeterson8013 Год назад

      I suppose you would say the same thing about guns, motorcycles and televisions. You are a Marxist.

    • @dand3975
      @dand3975 11 месяцев назад +1

      I read quite a few biographies written by Vietnam war Army helicopter pilots. They did not like flying single engine helicopters (Army Hueys,Cobras, Loaches) over water, for patrols missions on rivers. The Marine Corps had Twin engine Huey's & Cobras with brakes on the rotors which were more capable flying over water missions & landing on boats. Flying a single engine helicopter over water is Stretchy at best.

    • @SmokeGray
      @SmokeGray 11 месяцев назад

      @@dand3975 thank you for sharing this information.

    • @dand3975
      @dand3975 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@SmokeGray A very good book to read is L.B.J.'s hired gun, John J Gelbert story of a Marine Corps (Huey) door gunner in the Vietnam War. Also "Snake Pilot" - Randy Zauhn the best biography, of an Army Warrant officer who flew the Huey Cobra AH-1G, in the Vietnam War.

  • @DemocraticSocialism-Now
    @DemocraticSocialism-Now 11 месяцев назад

    #BanPrivateAviation

  • @SofaKingShit
    @SofaKingShit Год назад +4

    I wanted helicopter ice cream but they said they only had plain.

  • @abelgarcia5432
    @abelgarcia5432 7 месяцев назад +15

    I think the "Magnum PI reboot" failed because it was too WOKE.

    • @bigdougscommentary5719
      @bigdougscommentary5719 5 месяцев назад +1

      HOW was it woke? Be specific. Bet you can’t.

    • @GeoffCollinsTravelsfortheHoff
      @GeoffCollinsTravelsfortheHoff 4 месяца назад

      How do you make a woke programme? 🤔.

    • @MJ-fj9yv
      @MJ-fj9yv 4 месяца назад +1

      @@bigdougscommentary5719😂 butt hurt

    • @Worklikeyoushouldbe
      @Worklikeyoushouldbe 4 месяца назад +6

      Everything Woke goes BROKE

    • @david.f.b.1131
      @david.f.b.1131 4 месяца назад

      I noticed that several accounts are spamming channels with the same post just stating it's woke. They just keep spamming that with no detail or response. ​@@bigdougscommentary5719

  • @klaseronen7535
    @klaseronen7535 Год назад +25

    It was in 1980 or 1981 when I had the opportunity to fly in a similar Hughes helicopter, I was about 6 or 7. I remember how agile it was and how incredibly fast a pilot could manoeuvre it to into almost ridiculous moves. I'm not sure I would want to try it again nowadays.

    • @johnbuiatti366
      @johnbuiatti366 Год назад +6

      When I was in school (mechanical engineering), I distinctly remember one of our professors calling helicopters, "flying fatigue machines." Meaning every part on there was of limited life span (due to the absolute necessity for lightness). In fact just after getting married, in 1994, and on our honeymoon, two helicopters went down around the time we were there. Thiese tours had become very common as Magnum PI"s popularity was high.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Год назад +3

      Wow we're same aged cats!

    • @peteg1696
      @peteg1696 Год назад +2

      @@johnbuiatti366 your professor was correct, but all aircraft are flying fatigue machines and that is why every aircraft has a maintenance schedule

    • @oscarpimentel3315
      @oscarpimentel3315 Год назад

      @@johnbuiatti366 Hughes are the better helicopters projecta, the dream of one nice pilot is to have one for hobby, I have one Hughes 300 same family aré products of great Howard Hughes Industries, 100% field

    • @chamade166
      @chamade166 11 месяцев назад

      Reported for hate

  • @thomasvarley380
    @thomasvarley380 11 месяцев назад +2

    Pilot at fault clearly . Get a professional next time , even if it means using blackface . Better than people dying .

  • @crazyralph6386
    @crazyralph6386 Год назад +2

    The pilot was an idiot for flying that close, especially when the skids already touched water earlier during the shoot! I’m surprised nobody from the second helicopter didn’t radio the clown, and remind him he’s driving Hughes 500, not a frigging Donzi? But hey, at least they didn’t have to use Blackface I guess? Ugh.

  • @bayareaartist999
    @bayareaartist999 Год назад +6

    I lived on the big island 1991-93, they grounded all the helicopters in in the tourism industry for the entire state in 92 because of accidents.

  • @466rudy6
    @466rudy6 Год назад +2

    Diversity hiring has no place in aviation. Hire the best person for the job, not what color they are.

  • @SHOWDOG1228
    @SHOWDOG1228 Год назад +42

    Airwolf, which was technically a magnum P. I. Spin-off and was created by Don Bellesario also had a helicopter crash. Unfortunately it ended up being fatal, killing stuntman Reid Rhondell.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +12

      Yes I hope to cover that story soon.

    • @TAJ1977
      @TAJ1977 Год назад +5

      The Helicopter(Airwolf) crashed here in Germany after his Film role 😔

    • @Ganiscol
      @Ganiscol Год назад +10

      Ok, how is Airwolf "technically" a Magnum spin-off?
      They have nothing in common. Helicopters? Thats the main theme of Airwolf but only an occasionally used means of transportation in Magnum. The Ferrari is more often on camera than the chopper...

    • @jamesmaybrick2001
      @jamesmaybrick2001 Год назад +1

      @@Ganiscol Cheers just about to ask that question. Cant see how its possibly true.

    • @tvsbesteps
      @tvsbesteps  Год назад +11

      Yes not really a spin off, but more like a sister show. Don Bellisario produced both and both shows shared some crew and pilots.
      The man playing the cop whom Stringfellow takes up over Universal Studios in the Airwolf pilot is the same man who was piloting the second copter in this story; the man who called the mayday.

  • @milesbrown8016
    @milesbrown8016 Год назад +4

    Helicopters are unforgiving and not toys. They will quickly send you to your maker

  • @handsolo6241
    @handsolo6241 Год назад +8

    Thats not the only chopper they crashed.

    • @VictoryAviation
      @VictoryAviation Год назад

      What else happened?

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Год назад +1

      @@VictoryAviationhappened after the series wrapped up in 88, in which the stunt pilot of the series Steve Kux was doing a long line job in Oahu, and had a runaway trim failure only 3ft off the ground and nearly died. a fellow Vietnam Vet basically saved him by lifting the 1500lb aircraft above water until rescuers could pulled his unconscious body out. there’s a video of it kicking around, and it’s pretty nuts how quickly it went south.

    • @VictoryAviation
      @VictoryAviation Год назад

      @@crazyralph6386 Welll… damn 😨

  • @11C1P
    @11C1P 4 месяца назад +1

    Roger Mosley was actually a helicopter pilot also, but they didn't use him to pilot any helicopters in the show, in case something like this happened, they didn't want to lose a star. Stuntman, or crew members, fine, just not a star.

  • @jamesgarcia9514
    @jamesgarcia9514 Год назад +3

    Back in 85 or 86 .. Tom selleck hit me with his Land Over.. I remember the vehicle because I had a 85 Toyota four wheel drive , and that Land Rover stood out..Well waiting in line at in&out burger on Seventh ave and the 60 freeway.
    I had no idea at first it was Selleck . He Barely tapped my left knee. I didn’t even feel it.
    He kinda freaked out.. I said don’t worry about it I barely felt it. He stopped and talked to me I was shocked it was him .
    He had his wife and children with him.. They were on the to Palm Springs.. I think it was a Land Rover.. I remember it had all light brown leather interior. The truck was dark green.. Thirty Seven Years ago.
    You have to know how the burger place is and the restrooms were you have to cross in front of the cars in walk up .. And Tom drove through.
    I swear this really happened to me..
    I let go he Nicked me..

  • @fredjones554
    @fredjones554 3 месяца назад +1

    Helicopters are so dangerous. I used to work in choppers and all the time, all we think is:"safety, safety, safety!" Luckily, my organisation got it and put pilots in charge of safety. Admittedly, they let me (unqualified) fly the chopper home on my last day. All the guys were x army and good sports.