Simagic uses true servo and higher resolution 18bit encoders even with the Alpha mini and even though officially rated at 10nm, it's been measured at 13nm by Iracing staff. This is brushless motor and 12 bit encoders which is why it is notchy.
Fact of the matter is the 15 bit vs 18 bit vs 22 bit resolution is overblown. I’ve tried both side by side and the lower 15bit “lack of depth” is not discernible. It’s a bit like audiophiles claiming they can hear the difference when really they can’t.
It's unfortunate you weren't able to tell the difference but it was significant for me and many others. You do sound like you are happy with less and that's great and better equipment isn't for you. The more disturbing issue is when a company lies or exaggerates it's product descriptions as moza does. It's latest R16 v2 is advertised as 18 bit but a teardown reveals 15 bit. Should this be acceptable as well?
Great review. Which base would you choose in terms of FF feel, Moza r12 or Simagic Alpha Mini? I heard that Simagic has a more sophisticated FF and Moza feels notchy.
Do you think this would be enough for my first sim rig with a 350mm wheel for older cars? I dont care too much for gt3 racing or modern f1. Just enough nm for that size wheel for a dtm e30 or something similar
Hello ! Congratulations on the videos you have posted, they are incredible. Question: between the Moza R12 and the Alpha Mini, which one would you choose?
Nm ratings are difficult to compare just by going off manufacturers claims. Moza publishes peak ratings. Simagic sustained. So it's not quite correct to say R12 is more powerful than Alpha mini. There needs to be a standard verifiable test for these
Simagic uses true servo and higher resolution 18bit encoders even with the Alpha mini and even though officially rated at 10nm, it's been measured at 13nm by Iracing staff. This is brushless motor and 12 bit encoders which is why it is notchy.
Would You mind if I ask You - where can I find such info?
It’s got a 15bit encoder
@@ThoughtPunk yes but for the new batch. Still less than Simagic
Fact of the matter is the 15 bit vs 18 bit vs 22 bit resolution is overblown.
I’ve tried both side by side and the lower 15bit “lack of depth” is not discernible. It’s a bit like audiophiles claiming they can hear the difference when really they can’t.
It's unfortunate you weren't able to tell the difference but it was significant for me and many others. You do sound like you are happy with less and that's great and better equipment isn't for you. The more disturbing issue is when a company lies or exaggerates it's product descriptions as moza does. It's latest R16 v2 is advertised as 18 bit but a teardown reveals 15 bit. Should this be acceptable as well?
Great review. Which base would you choose in terms of FF feel, Moza r12 or Simagic Alpha Mini? I heard that Simagic has a more sophisticated FF and Moza feels notchy.
Id go for Alpha. Not mini. Alpha. Its a matter of few % more in price but You wont ever need more ffb.
Do you think this would be enough for my first sim rig with a 350mm wheel for older cars? I dont care too much for gt3 racing or modern f1. Just enough nm for that size wheel for a dtm e30 or something similar
I guess will do. Depends also on the weight of the wheel.
@@simracingenthusiastreviews okay thanks. I was thinking about just going with VRS dad but that might be overkill for my first ever wheel hub haha.
Hello ! Congratulations on the videos you have posted, they are incredible.
Question: between the Moza R12 and the Alpha Mini, which one would you choose?
Id go with Alpha - it has enough power for Your life. With mini and r12 you would question amount of ffb. If only you are not limited by rig
Alpha mini is 13nm ….. moza r12 is actually 10.5nm
@@Max__apex Can you point me to some source stating the 10.5nm?
@@holkemann this was a test done on the iracing forums.
Is it worth upgrading to r12 from r9? Or is no real difference?
You will feel the difference but I see no point in such small change. Save money and go up to 16nm. Then youll have no need for more.
@@simracingenthusiastreviews thanks for the advice
Nm ratings are difficult to compare just by going off manufacturers claims. Moza publishes peak ratings. Simagic sustained. So it's not quite correct to say R12 is more powerful than Alpha mini. There needs to be a standard verifiable test for these
Yup. I really hope for a proper comparison of force and acceleration test of bases